Windows 64 Questions (& Answers)

jasonbourne · Aug 22, 2005, 03:14 PM

im thinking about trying the windows 64 , is there any pefomance gain??is it possible to install any game on it??

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 22, 2005, 07:37 PM

a small bost, but alot of stuff doesn't run includeing many copy protected games,
becouse the copy protection people havn't updated thier virtaul driver crap to 64bit yet.

***craig5320*** · Aug 23, 2005, 03:50 AM

x64 is my main OS since it came out, I now run a x64/Vista install, with no XP 32 at all.

The only game I've had an issue with is SplinterCell CT.

I play BF2, GTA:SA and most other games on my machine without a problem. In terms of performance you probably won't notice the difference. But if you've got the hardware why not use it.

The more demand there is for x64 compatibility the quicker it will come.

Nearly all printer drivers are working now. ATI have full 64 support, with a x64 version of each catalyst being released same day as the normal sets.

Daemon Tools is another program that won't run. But with Apps like WinImage you don't need it anyway.

You've got nothing to loose.

jasonbourne · Aug 23, 2005, 10:48 AM

ok thanks for the reply guys, i`ll complete splintercell 3 and the try the free trial.i hope not to have problems with my other games(hl2,bf2,and fear when it comes out

g35x · Jan 4, 2006, 01:41 PM

i use x64 as my main os with a partition for another os but havent installed one...only game i have had a problem with is area 51....wont install kuz it says os not supported...not a big problem tho...

ChoGGi · Jan 6, 2006, 04:29 AM

daemontools came out with an x64 version
heres an install fix for area51
http://www.planetamd64.com/index.php?download=362

you should go for x64, like others said theres no big speed increase. i notice its much more stable then 32bit xp. i dont really remember the last time i had a crash

Judas · Jan 6, 2006, 06:49 AM

XP 64Bit has been my main OS for roughly a week not.... and i must say, the initial installation and so far use of it has been pretty solid and fast in comparison to an already fast windows XP 32bit i was previously running..

I WAS Going to install 32bit on a seperate partition, but i don't actually have an real reason. So far every benchmark, game i've thrown up has worked with absalutely no issues to mention.

g35x · Jan 6, 2006, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

I WAS Going to install 32bit on a seperate partition, but i don't actually have an real reason. So far every benchmark, game i've thrown up has worked with absalutely no issues to mention.

thats what i did and yes i havent found a reason to use it yet lol

Chaos · Jan 13, 2006, 07:57 PM

Aquamark 3 wont run for me with XP x64 everything else is fine pretty much. Some USB devices are still lacking support, thr only game I have had issue with is GT Legends

g35x · Jan 13, 2006, 09:02 PM

area 51 wont install and i have to use ptp mode on my sony cyber shot

ChoGGi · Jan 14, 2006, 02:06 AM

i posted a link to the install fix for area51.
aquamark3 i think uses a 32bit driver.

g35x · Jan 24, 2006, 01:45 PM

oh and theres no x64 drivers for my ati tv wonder pro >< other then that its all good

Chaos · Jan 25, 2006, 11:31 PM

tv tuners seem to be dragging far behind for the x64 version. Even though ATI had a press release earlier this week saying they are leading the way in support for this OS

PandaZ3 · Jan 28, 2006, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaos

tv tuners seem to be dragging far behind for the x64 version. Even though ATI had a press release earlier this week saying they are leading the way in support for this OS

ATI doesnt support the AIW series all that well with 32 bit sytems as evidenced in our own DH AIW forum....

But I really enjoy my computer with the OEM XP Pro x64. I am using a ULI chipset, 939 3200, X800 Pro (AGP), 2 x 512 PC3200. I do little outside the office suite except for MS flight Simulator 2004. It is hard to put it in to tangibles, but to me the x64 system seems butter smooth as opposed to Tabletop smooth, in other words it seems to be a little faster and a little more....compliant? Anyway I like it. I will get Vista after the initial rush.

Retarp · Jan 28, 2006, 05:10 PM

I did some digging and found out that the reason Windows XP 64 bit is so "smooth" as you say. It's based off the 64 bit version of Server 2003. I've even had a few programs report my OS as Windows Server Edition 2003.

My only hang up is the lack of driver support for my HP all-in-one.

PandaZ3 · Jan 28, 2006, 07:27 PM

Most of the manufacturers seem content to develop drivers only for new equipment. I have a problem with my HP P1000 too, it is a Legacy Item and HP doe not have x64 drivers for any of its current photo printers except the $400 dollar model. They are spotty on the deskjets too, but they do have a few. Canon is a little better as they have some of their lower end printers included. I have not checked Lexmark and I am not a Epson fan.

It would seem they just want to support future sales and let those already made wither in the wind.

Chaos · Jan 28, 2006, 07:59 PM

the site PlanetAMD64.com has lots of beta HP stuff for x64

Chaos · Jan 29, 2006, 02:14 PM

I have the HP DeskJet 3845 and use the beta available @ PlanetAMD64 without issues

PandaZ3 · Jan 29, 2006, 02:38 PM

I have looked there and saw quite a few I will down load one or two.

Chaos · Jan 29, 2006, 02:44 PM

the beta HP drivers are a 3 piece set, all 3 parts are required

DangDave · Feb 12, 2006, 12:08 PM

I recently built the sys in my sig and decided to give x64 a shot ( it was only $120 @ newegg ) and I luv it.
Runs fast, smooth, stable and runs everthing I throw at it except Quicken 6 ( which I've had since win95 ) because it was 16bit

It even had the drivers for my HP 722c

The best part is that its familiar and all the tweaks ect. for XP work in x64.

PS Win loads in about 15 sec, but my FX55 might have something to do with that.

Chaos · Feb 15, 2006, 03:00 AM

I also really like the 64bit OS, and the Catalyst support for X64 is right up to date with each new release

Judas · Feb 15, 2006, 10:50 PM

still no drivers for alot of the printers and scanners i've seen yet... quite annoying...

Chaos · Feb 15, 2006, 10:53 PM

while there are not manyavailable they do seem to show up in beta Judas. Have a look around the download section of PlanetAMD64.com that's where I got HP drivers. You will have to register to havew access to their downloads though

PandaZ3 · Feb 16, 2006, 02:44 AM

planet AMD64 is a good site, i just don't like the Idea of generic beta drivers, I always think I am missing something rather than geting it all with a purpose built driver.

Rasta Monsta · Feb 16, 2006, 05:23 AM

These questions keep popping up. . .let's sticky these comments for a bit, for the people considering this OS.

rasta

Necrosis · Feb 19, 2006, 02:06 AM

Sweet man all of a sudden x64 likes my computer, and is now working. I just wish my Sunbelt Kerio firewall worked with it.

Necrosis · Feb 20, 2006, 01:32 AM

Do you guys know of any places selling XP x64 for a decent price?

PandaZ3 · Feb 20, 2006, 01:40 AM

http://www.iguanamicro.com/miwixppredx6.html

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16837102034

NewEgg is a few dollars less.

Necrosis · Feb 20, 2006, 06:41 AM

Thanks for the links. I found one place on Pricwatch that has it for $120. However, the wording is kinda odd.

http://www.9software.com/Microsoft_W...htm&Click=5673

Aug 22, 2005, 03:14 PM	#1
jasonbourne DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: great yarmouth uk Posts: 1,082 Rep Power: 0	Windows 64 questions??? im thinking about trying the windows 64 , is there any pefomance gain??is it possible to install any game on it?? __________________ http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...asonBourne.jpg Last edited by Rasta Monsta; Feb 16, 2006 at 09:47 PM.

Aug 22, 2005, 07:37 PM	#2
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	a small bost, but alot of stuff doesn't run includeing many copy protected games, becouse the copy protection people havn't updated thier virtaul driver crap to 64bit yet. __________________

Aug 23, 2005, 03:50 AM	#3
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,276 Rep Power: 428 System Specs	x64 is my main OS since it came out, I now run a x64/Vista install, with no XP 32 at all. The only game I've had an issue with is SplinterCell CT. I play BF2, GTA:SA and most other games on my machine without a problem. In terms of performance you probably won't notice the difference. But if you've got the hardware why not use it. The more demand there is for x64 compatibility the quicker it will come. Nearly all printer drivers are working now. ATI have full 64 support, with a x64 version of each catalyst being released same day as the normal sets. Daemon Tools is another program that won't run. But with Apps like WinImage you don't need it anyway. You've got nothing to loose. __________________

Aug 23, 2005, 10:48 AM	Thread Starter #4
jasonbourne DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: great yarmouth uk Posts: 1,082 Rep Power: 0	ok thanks for the reply guys, i`ll complete splintercell 3 and the try the free trial.i hope not to have problems with my other games(hl2,bf2,and fear when it comes out __________________ http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...asonBourne.jpg

Jan 4, 2006, 01:41 PM	#5
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 43 System Specs	i use x64 as my main os with a partition for another os but havent installed one...only game i have had a problem with is area 51....wont install kuz it says os not supported...not a big problem tho... __________________

Jan 6, 2006, 04:29 AM	#6
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	daemontools came out with an x64 version heres an install fix for area51 http://www.planetamd64.com/index.php?download=362 you should go for x64, like others said theres no big speed increase. i notice its much more stable then 32bit xp. i dont really remember the last time i had a crash __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Jan 13, 2006, 07:57 PM	#9
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	Aquamark 3 wont run for me with XP x64 everything else is fine pretty much. Some USB devices are still lacking support, thr only game I have had issue with is GT Legends __________________

Jan 13, 2006, 09:02 PM	#10
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 43 System Specs	area 51 wont install and i have to use ptp mode on my sony cyber shot __________________

Jan 14, 2006, 02:06 AM	#11
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	i posted a link to the install fix for area51. aquamark3 i think uses a 32bit driver. __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Jan 24, 2006, 01:45 PM	#12
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 43 System Specs	oh and theres no x64 drivers for my ati tv wonder pro >< other then that its all good __________________

Jan 25, 2006, 11:31 PM	#13
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	tv tuners seem to be dragging far behind for the x64 version. Even though ATI had a press release earlier this week saying they are leading the way in support for this OS __________________

Jan 28, 2006, 05:10 PM	#15
Retarp DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 119 Rep Power: 0	I did some digging and found out that the reason Windows XP 64 bit is so "smooth" as you say. It's based off the 64 bit version of Server 2003. I've even had a few programs report my OS as Windows Server Edition 2003. My only hang up is the lack of driver support for my HP all-in-one.

Jan 28, 2006, 07:27 PM	#16
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 417 Rep Power: 0	Most of the manufacturers seem content to develop drivers only for new equipment. I have a problem with my HP P1000 too, it is a Legacy Item and HP doe not have x64 drivers for any of its current photo printers except the $400 dollar model. They are spotty on the deskjets too, but they do have a few. Canon is a little better as they have some of their lower end printers included. I have not checked Lexmark and I am not a Epson fan. It would seem they just want to support future sales and let those already made wither in the wind. __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Jan 28, 2006, 07:59 PM	#17
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	the site PlanetAMD64.com has lots of beta HP stuff for x64 __________________

Jan 29, 2006, 02:14 PM	#18
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	I have the HP DeskJet 3845 and use the beta available @ PlanetAMD64 without issues __________________

Jan 29, 2006, 02:38 PM	#19
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 417 Rep Power: 0	I have looked there and saw quite a few I will down load one or two. __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Jan 29, 2006, 02:44 PM	#20
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	the beta HP drivers are a 3 piece set, all 3 parts are required __________________

Feb 12, 2006, 12:08 PM	#21
DangDave DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I recently built the sys in my sig and decided to give x64 a shot ( it was only $120 @ newegg ) and I luv it. Runs fast, smooth, stable and runs everthing I throw at it except Quicken 6 ( which I've had since win95 ) because it was 16bit It even had the drivers for my HP 722c The best part is that its familiar and all the tweaks ect. for XP work in x64. PS Win loads in about 15 sec, but my FX55 might have something to do with that. __________________ [color=darkslategray]EPoX 9npa + Ultra Athlon FX55 Thermalright XP 90C, Sunon 56 cfm 2X 1GB OCZ Titanium PC3200 Liteon DVD-LTD163D (16X, 48X) Plextor CDRW (48X,24X,48X) Seagate Barracuda Sata II 80gb ATI Radeon X1800 XT AeroCool Case & 550W PSU VS G810 11Mbps Wireless Lan WinXP Pro X64[/color]

Feb 15, 2006, 03:00 AM	#22
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	I also really like the 64bit OS, and the Catalyst support for X64 is right up to date with each new release __________________

Feb 15, 2006, 10:53 PM	#24
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	while there are not manyavailable they do seem to show up in beta Judas. Have a look around the download section of PlanetAMD64.com that's where I got HP drivers. You will have to register to havew access to their downloads though __________________

Feb 16, 2006, 02:44 AM	#25
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 417 Rep Power: 0	planet AMD64 is a good site, i just don't like the Idea of generic beta drivers, I always think I am missing something rather than geting it all with a purpose built driver. __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Feb 19, 2006, 02:06 AM	#27
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	Sweet man all of a sudden x64 likes my computer, and is now working. I just wish my Sunbelt Kerio firewall worked with it.

Feb 20, 2006, 01:32 AM	#28
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	Do you guys know of any places selling XP x64 for a decent price?

Feb 20, 2006, 01:40 AM	#29
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 417 Rep Power: 0	http://www.iguanamicro.com/miwixppredx6.html http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16837102034 NewEgg is a few dollars less. __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Feb 20, 2006, 06:41 AM	#30
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	Thanks for the links. I found one place on Pricwatch that has it for $120. However, the wording is kinda odd. http://www.9software.com/Microsoft_W...htm&Click=5673