Updated Monitor Driver on Windows Update Site

AT_curiousB · Dec 27, 2002, 02:38 AM

Just thought that I would post this to let everyone know that MS have posted this update.

I downloaded and installed this, and I would have to say that there is a noticable improvement in the IQ on my monitor.

I would also speculate that this is possibly in conjuction with DX9 being released, and the improvment in the refresh area of the newer CAT drivers being released from ATI etc.

I would post a link, but lets face if you do not know how to access the windows update, then better ask your Mom.

ToshiroOC · Dec 27, 2002, 03:12 AM

I have a better idea - why don't you post a link so that we can see which update you are talking about, then we will be able to talk about it. As it is, there are thousands of fixes for Windows XP that you can be talking about. Also, might I recommend that you post a link so that you can prove you know more than just how to open Windows Update from XP, which takes little to no talent (well, now that I think about it, so would providing a link...)

digitalwanderer · Dec 27, 2002, 03:24 AM

Is there one for 98?

Forge · Dec 27, 2002, 03:47 AM

I just hit Windows Update, and what did I find??

An nForce2 audio driver update, nothing else.

Seeing as monitor 'drivers' aren't actually drivers at all, just listings of refresh ranges and resolutions supported....

Sounds like BS... Smells like BS...

Plus, it's only for YOUR monitor, which most of us probably don't have.

DirectX has NOTHING to do with monitors. Nothing at all.

Any other points you made that I haven't addressed?

Madgoat1979 · Dec 27, 2002, 03:51 AM

Ok,

Well... Cant we all get along?

If the guy wanted to post something that he thought "might" help some people out.... why not let him? He only thought he was posting a good update...

And we all know that not all of us are as thoughtful as others, why not just except the post for what it is and not start stomping on others good intentions?

Thanks anyway,

MadGoat

ToshiroOC · Dec 27, 2002, 03:54 AM

Monitor drivers are sometimes real drivers, in the case of certain *coughbuggycough* LCD's and CRT's where the color balance has to be drastically changed... And no offense, Forge, but anything in a computer has to do with the monitor, at the end. It's pretty hard to see what your hardware is doing without a monitor, and I can't think of a single piece of software that has never involed a monitor...

LowLevelOwl · Dec 27, 2002, 08:26 PM

Hey AT, you're not the only one. I got the update as well. And after I installed it on my laptop the monitors changed from "Default Monitor" to "Default Monitor (winseset)". The drivers are dated 11/11/02 and the version is 20.0.2195.20.

I'd post a link but I think most Windows users know how to get to the Windows Update.

ToshiroOC · Dec 28, 2002, 01:37 AM

However, not all of us are seeing it in Windows Update, meaning that none of us can have a decent conversation about what it did unless we know what update you are talking about (through you posting a link instead of doing an annoying

and insisting that we should just use Windows Update, which isn't working for the others of us...). Might I recommend that one of you guys stop being lazy and find a link, or at least give us the fix number so we can know what update you are talking about?

digitalwanderer · Dec 28, 2002, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LowLevelOwl
I'd post a link but I think most Windows users know how to get to the Windows Update.

Don't worry, that's the last time this will be said in this thread....I ain't a super-mod for nothing.

Could you folks just try and imagine that there might just be one or two folks on this site who don't trust M$ enough to just trust their baby to clicking the "update" button? Could you PLEASE just post the link?

If nothing else, don't post that condescending line again. It won't stay up long.

ToshiroOC · Dec 28, 2002, 06:18 AM

Go digi, go digi! Thow that weight around son - they can't keep you from doing diddlyjack in your turf!

Rayder · Dec 28, 2002, 06:31 AM

I have a KDS Visual Sensations 19" monitor and there was an update for it. It was version 1.0.0.1 It was something like 600+k to download.

The only thing that I noticed is that it backed off the hertz in 1600x1200 by 5 hertz, now my max is only 70 at that resolution when using RefreshLock.

And of course, I had to resize all my screens.

Other than that, I haven't seen ANYTHING different.

DarkFoss · Dec 28, 2002, 06:10 PM

You can maually search from the Windows update page. Instead of clicking on scan for updates button Click on the Windows Catalog at the upper left of the pageor under see also if enabled.
From there you can manually search for updates for either windows operating systems (even win 98) or hardware by clicking on the appropriate button.You can even view your download history to check and see if you've missed a previous update or if it failed.

http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp

LowLevelOwl · Dec 29, 2002, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by digitalwanderer
Don't worry, that's the last time this will be said in this thread....I ain't a super-mod for nothing.

Could you folks just try and imagine that there might just be one or two folks on this site who don't trust M$ enough to just trust their baby to clicking the "update" button? Could you PLEASE just post the link?

If nothing else, don't post that condescending line again. It won't stay up long.

Actually going to the Windows Update website and checking to see what updates there are won't put anyone's "baby" at risk. So I think it's just a matter of people being a tad too paranoid about Microsoft.

The there is no "link" or "fix number" posted on the Windows Update website. All the information that was on it I gave in an earlier post.

But seeing as how some of you don't see it so it must not exist. Weird, huh?

Edit #1:

The proof is in the pudding. And here is the pudding...well sort of..

dai · Dec 29, 2002, 07:07 AM

installed i do not notice any thing different with the computer

Louie6666 · Dec 31, 2002, 06:00 PM

got so pissed at monitor driver support for my monitor did me own in notepad lol!

Rayder · Jan 1, 2003, 06:15 AM

Upon further investigation, I found that it put a profile in the "Color Management" tab of my display properties, I was getting ALOT more break-up with the flash-bulb flashes in WWE RAW during the entrances(even though it only runs in lamo 640x480). I removed that profile and got my extra 5htz back in 1600x1200 and the break-up went away in WWE RAW. Other things I noticed were jittery animation in 3DMark and other proggies with that profile. So it got YANK-ola'd.

It's one of those things where it makes you wonder what M$ could have possibly thought was the benfit of this update. I mean, I saw absolutely NO improvement at all, only the development of more silly glitches. Must be something like newer monitor revisions that needed fixing or something, because it sure didn't make anything better on MY monitor. Mine is about 8 months old.

Whatever.........

ToshiroOC · Jan 1, 2003, 10:11 AM

Interesting - I have always had a profile in my "Color Management" tab (two actually, but one is for 5400K that I never use) - what is your monitor brand and model?

DriveEuro · Jan 1, 2003, 08:19 PM

I downloaded it yesturday also......didn't do jack for me.

ToshiroOC · Jan 1, 2003, 08:37 PM

I'm still not seeing anything in Windows Update, though that might be because I installed monitor profiles for my monitor (P991 FD Trinitron, 19") with the Cd that came with the monitor when I first installed this copy of Windows XP on my comp...

Dec 27, 2002, 03:12 AM	#2
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	I have a better idea - why don't you post a link so that we can see which update you are talking about, then we will be able to talk about it. As it is, there are thousands of fixes for Windows XP that you can be talking about. Also, might I recommend that you post a link so that you can prove you know more than just how to open Windows Update from XP, which takes little to no talent (well, now that I think about it, so would providing a link...) __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Dec 27, 2002, 03:24 AM	#3
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	LINK! Is there one for 98? __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Dec 27, 2002, 03:47 AM	#4
Forge DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: King of Prussia, PA, USA Posts: 107 Rep Power: 0	I just hit Windows Update, and what did I find?? An nForce2 audio driver update, nothing else. Seeing as monitor 'drivers' aren't actually drivers at all, just listings of refresh ranges and resolutions supported.... Sounds like BS... Smells like BS... Plus, it's only for YOUR monitor, which most of us probably don't have. DirectX has NOTHING to do with monitors. Nothing at all. Any other points you made that I haven't addressed? __________________ [COLOR=lightgreen] Vargr64[/COLOR]: Core 2 Q9450@3.2 [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] OCZ Dominator [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] 4GB G.Skill 800MHz [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] eVGA GeForce 9800GT [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] Raptor150+Seag750+Seag640+Seag320+Seag320 [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] Liteon LH-20A1H [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] Liteon LH-20A1S [COLOR=Red]\|[/COLOR] TT Armor+ [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] Corsair TX750W [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] Gigabyte EP35-DS4 [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] Logitech Z-680 [COLOR=Red]\|[/COLOR] Vista64 Ultimate SP1 [COLOR=Red]\|[/COLOR] Ubuntu 8.10 x64

Dec 27, 2002, 03:51 AM	#5
Madgoat1979 VTX NuTz!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 763 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Woah! Ok, Well... Cant we all get along? If the guy wanted to post something that he thought "might" help some people out.... why not let him? He only thought he was posting a good update... And we all know that not all of us are as thoughtful as others, why not just except the post for what it is and not start stomping on others good intentions? Thanks anyway, MadGoat __________________

Dec 27, 2002, 03:54 AM	#6
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Monitor drivers are sometimes real drivers, in the case of certain coughbuggycough LCD's and CRT's where the color balance has to be drastically changed... And no offense, Forge, but anything in a computer has to do with the monitor, at the end. It's pretty hard to see what your hardware is doing without a monitor, and I can't think of a single piece of software that has never involed a monitor... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Dec 27, 2002, 02:38 AM	#1
AT_curiousB DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: England Posts: 128 Rep Power: 0	Updated Monitor Driver on Windows Update Site Just thought that I would post this to let everyone know that MS have posted this update. I downloaded and installed this, and I would have to say that there is a noticable improvement in the IQ on my monitor. I would also speculate that this is possibly in conjuction with DX9 being released, and the improvment in the refresh area of the newer CAT drivers being released from ATI etc. I would post a link, but lets face if you do not know how to access the windows update, then better ask your Mom. __________________ Bill

Dec 27, 2002, 08:26 PM	#7
LowLevelOwl DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: chicago.il.usa Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	Hey AT, you're not the only one. I got the update as well. And after I installed it on my laptop the monitors changed from "Default Monitor" to "Default Monitor (winseset)". The drivers are dated 11/11/02 and the version is 20.0.2195.20. I'd post a link but I think most Windows users know how to get to the Windows Update.

Dec 28, 2002, 01:37 AM	#8
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	However, not all of us are seeing it in Windows Update, meaning that none of us can have a decent conversation about what it did unless we know what update you are talking about (through you posting a link instead of doing an annoying and insisting that we should just use Windows Update, which isn't working for the others of us...). Might I recommend that one of you guys stop being lazy and find a link, or at least give us the fix number so we can know what update you are talking about? __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Dec 28, 2002, 06:18 AM	#10
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Go digi, go digi! Thow that weight around son - they can't keep you from doing diddlyjack in your turf! __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Dec 28, 2002, 06:31 AM	#11
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,161 Rep Power: 73	I have a KDS Visual Sensations 19" monitor and there was an update for it. It was version 1.0.0.1 It was something like 600+k to download. The only thing that I noticed is that it backed off the hertz in 1600x1200 by 5 hertz, now my max is only 70 at that resolution when using RefreshLock. And of course, I had to resize all my screens. Other than that, I haven't seen ANYTHING different.

Dec 28, 2002, 06:10 PM	#12
DarkFoss HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Downers Grove IL Posts: 688 Rep Power: 0	Ask and ye shall recieve You can maually search from the Windows update page. Instead of clicking on scan for updates button Click on the Windows Catalog at the upper left of the pageor under see also if enabled. From there you can manually search for updates for either windows operating systems (even win 98) or hardware by clicking on the appropriate button.You can even view your download history to check and see if you've missed a previous update or if it failed. http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp Last edited by DarkFoss; Dec 28, 2002 at 06:31 PM.

Dec 29, 2002, 07:07 AM	#14
dai DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 126 Rep Power: 0	monitor driver installed i do not notice any thing different with the computer

Dec 31, 2002, 06:00 PM	#15
Louie6666 Just One Sick-Lizard Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 501 Rep Power: 0	got so pissed at monitor driver support for my monitor did me own in notepad lol! __________________

Jan 1, 2003, 06:15 AM	#16
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,161 Rep Power: 73	Upon further investigation, I found that it put a profile in the "Color Management" tab of my display properties, I was getting ALOT more break-up with the flash-bulb flashes in WWE RAW during the entrances(even though it only runs in lamo 640x480). I removed that profile and got my extra 5htz back in 1600x1200 and the break-up went away in WWE RAW. Other things I noticed were jittery animation in 3DMark and other proggies with that profile. So it got YANK-ola'd. It's one of those things where it makes you wonder what M$ could have possibly thought was the benfit of this update. I mean, I saw absolutely NO improvement at all, only the development of more silly glitches. Must be something like newer monitor revisions that needed fixing or something, because it sure didn't make anything better on MY monitor. Mine is about 8 months old. Whatever.........

Jan 1, 2003, 10:11 AM	#17
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Interesting - I have always had a profile in my "Color Management" tab (two actually, but one is for 5400K that I never use) - what is your monitor brand and model? __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 1, 2003, 08:19 PM	#18
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	I downloaded it yesturday also......didn't do jack for me. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 1, 2003, 08:37 PM	#19
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	I'm still not seeing anything in Windows Update, though that might be because I installed monitor profiles for my monitor (P991 FD Trinitron, 19") with the Cd that came with the monitor when I first installed this copy of Windows XP on my comp... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)