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Old Feb 18, 2003, 02:44 AM   #1
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GTA 3 Sync Over Range error

I just installed the new omega drivers based on CAT 3.1. It is my frst time using these drivers and quite honestly I don't think I'll ever do it again because the first game I try, Grand Theft Auto 3, I get a Over Sync Range error and my monitor turns off...what's going on???


PIII 733@770mhz
FSB 133@140mhz
Radeon 7500 64MB DDR
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Old Feb 18, 2003, 03:13 PM   #2
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well ive emailed Omegadrive both this thread and the thread you posted in on Rage3d. so im sure when he gets time he will answer you. hopefully on here you can keep your posts in a more civil manner than on Rage3d.

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Old Feb 18, 2003, 03:29 PM   #3
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well ive emailed Omegadrive both this thread and the thread you posted in on Rage3d. so im sure when he gets time he will answer you. hopefully on here you can keep your posts in a more civil manner than on Rage3d.

thanks.
Well you know for a moment I thought that my PC was screwed up real good and that I was going to type Format c: really soon...


Specification about my problem:

I uninstalled the ATI control panel, tried to uninstall CAT drivers too but got some error message can't remember what it was.

Run the Omega exe, choose to install evertyhing, choose 100hz because my desktop is 1024x768 and I can't go higher than 100hz.

Reboot, try Grand Theft Auto 3.

I run the game in 800x600, I hear the intro sound but my screen says sync out of range.

I also tried reinstalling Omega drivers using the 75hz and 85hz options, no difference.
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Old Feb 18, 2003, 03:44 PM   #4
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well I have to say the out of sync thing is something that makes no sense to me, especially if you say your monitor can handle 100hz at 1024x768, it should be able to handle it at 800x600. ive never had that issue myself.

you say you are even getting the out of sync error if you install the drivers at 75hz?
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Old Feb 18, 2003, 03:46 PM   #5
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yep...this sucks I was kinda hoping for maybe a few extra fps in GTA 3 from these drivers...
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Old Feb 18, 2003, 03:49 PM   #6
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I just noticed something: my refresh rate is set at 100hz, but if I press a button on my screen I can see that vertical sync is set at 85hz, is that normal. I installed the monitor drivers.
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Old Feb 18, 2003, 03:52 PM   #7
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ok something sounds a little wrong here for sure. have you DDC information in advanced displays on or off? are you sure your monitor can handle 100hz?

what is your monitor btw? any inf files installed for it?
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Old Feb 18, 2003, 04:04 PM   #8
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TTX 8785, with inf installed from TTX.
yeah it can handle it, it's in the manual, it's a good screen.
I'll try again with 85hz option in the setup...
I did not do anything with DDC because when I went in control panel/displays I was kinda lost, dont really know what to do with it...but when I uncheck DDC Information, I can see some options like 1600x1200, maximum refresh 85hz, my monitor cant handle that and I don't wanna break it, should I uncheck DDC Information anyway???

Well actually in DDC Information it says that my screen DOES support 85hz in 1600x1200.
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Old Feb 18, 2003, 04:10 PM   #9
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well DDC tells the driver what maximum settings your monitor can handle (res and refresh), of course ive seen in the past that on some rigs, if people dont have the correct inf file installed or they dont have one at all it can cause all sorts of havoc with a system. Even a few people ive helped ---- their inf doesnt correctly work even when installed, but its rare this would happen.

If you have to go into that panel and manually set the maximum res and refresh rate make sure its correct. of course getting the manual settings correct is something thats very important, so id be 100% sure of the settings before messing with it.

if you can post a Dx log it might help.
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Old Feb 18, 2003, 04:25 PM   #10
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sorry i wrote screen instead of monitor I'm french. I'll post dx log today
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Old Feb 18, 2003, 04:36 PM   #11
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Actually I'll do it now, gotta work overtime, girlfriend's birthday soon...

Sorry if it's too long. I removed some stuff hope you got everything.


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System Information
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Time of this report: 2/18/2003, 11:29:32
Machine name: VINCENT-0SWM5JQ
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) (2600.xpclnt_qfe.010827-1803)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: n/a
System Model: Product Name
BIOS: Ver 1.64A
Processor: Intel Pentium III, ~760MHz
Memory: 256MB RAM
Page File: 129MB used, 490MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0 (4.09.0000.0000)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.0000.0900 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: The registry information for the DirectPlay application 'Crimson Skies' is missing or damaged. You should reinstall that application. The registry information for the DirectPlay application 'Shogo' is missing or damaged. You should reinstall that application.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: RADEON 7500 SERIES
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: Radeon 7500 (QW)
DAC type: Internal DAC(350MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5157&SUBSYS_7161174B&REV_00
Display Memory: 64.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (100Hz)
Monitor: TTX8785
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1280
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0001.6292 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 1/20/2003 22:45:02, 268416 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 1/20/2003 22:44:36, 569984 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-1217-11CF-6F6C-6051A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x5157
SubSys ID: 0x7161174B
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_D ModeMPEG2_C

DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run



Name: RADEON 7500 SERIES
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5157&SUBSYS_7161174B&REV_00\4&9FD 38EF&0&0008
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys, 6.14.0001.6292 (English), 1/20/2003 22:44:36, 569984 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\ati2dvag.dll, 6.14.0001.6292 (English), 1/20/2003 22:45:02, 268416 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Ati2mdxx.exe, 4.13.0001.0003 (English), 9/4/2001 16:24:26, 28672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\ati3d1ag.dll, 6.14.0010.3659 (English), 1/20/2003 22:03:20, 942395 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\ati3d2ag.dll, 6.14.0010.3659 (English), 1/20/2003 22:18:26, 1143963 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\ati3duag.dll, 6.14.0010.0150 (English), 1/20/2003 22:30:12, 721561 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\ATIDDC.DLL, 5.13.0001.0003 (English), 1/20/2003 22:34:54, 49152 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\atitvo32.dll, 6.14.0001.3002 (English), 1/20/2003 21:45:32, 32768 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\ativcoxx.dll, 6.13.0010.0005 (English), 11/9/2001 11:01:04, 24064 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0001.4065 (English), 1/20/2003 22:35:22, 151552 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0001.2478 (English), 1/20/2003 22:35:34, 77824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.14.0001.0008 (English), 1/20/2003 22:35:28, 73728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.3561 (English), 1/20/2003 23:24:52, 4530256 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\atiiiexx.dll, 6.14.0010.3004 (English), 1/7/2003 11:47:52, 290816 bytes

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DirectX Components
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dxapi.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 12:00:00 10496 bytes
d3d8.dll: 5.03.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 1156608 bytes
d3d8thk.dll: 5.03.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 8192 bytes
d3d9.dll: 5.03.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 1613312 bytes
d3dim.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 12:00:00 436224 bytes
d3dim700.dll: 5.03.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 797184 bytes
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dpnlobby.dll: 5.03.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 3072 bytes
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dpserial.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 12:00:00 53520 bytes
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diactfrm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 12:00:00 394240 bytes
joy.cpl: 5.01.2600.1106 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 03:41:00 207360 bytes
gcdef.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 12:00:00 76800 bytes
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gameenum.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/17/2001 14:02:32 9728 bytes
dsound.dll: 5.03.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 336384 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 5.03.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 1294336 bytes
dswave.dll: 5.03.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 18432 bytes
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dmstyle.dll: 5.03.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 98816 bytes
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dmscript.dll: 5.03.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 76800 bytes
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dxdiagn.dll: 5.03.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 1675264 bytes
mfc40.dll: 4.01.0000.6140 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 12:00:00 924432 bytes
mfc42.dll: 6.00.8665.0000 English Beta Retail 8/23/2001 12:00:00 995383 bytes
wsock32.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 12:00:00 21504 bytes
amstream.dll: 6.05.0001.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 64512 bytes
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mciqtz.drv: 4.00.0096.0729 English Final Retail 8/17/1998 04:21:54 11776 bytes
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bdasup.sys: 5.03.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/4/2002 02:03:54 11392 bytes
msdvbnp.ax: 6.05.0001.0900 English Final Retail 12/4/2002 01:33:20 52224 bytes
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msdv.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 11/12/2002 19:15:30 52096 bytes
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Old Feb 18, 2003, 09:11 PM   #12
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You know there are times when you think you have done everything right and if something doesnt work correctly it's not your fault. Well that's what I thought...

I reinstalled the Omega driver VERY SLOWLY, chose 85hz option, and I just confirmed that too many times the problem is not the program, the problem is the person who install it...

Thank you for your help Zardon and I'm really sorry I completely wasted your time...
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Old Feb 18, 2003, 09:37 PM   #13
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well im glad you sorted it out. I couldnt figure out what the problem was. now maybe you can go over to Rage3d where you said omegas sets sucked and tell them they arent quite that bad
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Old Feb 19, 2003, 03:21 AM   #14
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Sorry Skyline that I didn't answered your problems, I was at work and I only have some time to do this during the night...
The first problem is that if your monitor supports a max refresh of 1600x1200@85Hz, then you should use the 75 or 85Hz option, not the maximum one. (besides, that is the forced refresh rate for special resolutions ONLY, not the normal ones)
Another problem there was the INI file for GTA3, that damn game stores the refresh rate info in the INI or CFG file (I really don't know since I don't have that game) and when new drivers are installed the refresh rate changes, then the game uses the refresh trate info it had when it was first used. Just erase the configuration file and start the game.
Third, yes, you should disable DDC, that way you can use the max potential of your monitor and not be limited by what Windows wants to do.

BTW, I'm really glad you could sort the problem out by yourself, next time just E-Mail me personally or just post the problem in the official thread, since that is the one I watch the most.
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