5.12 Released

Raptor · Dec 8, 2005, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Adagio

Great ... many bugfixes and a new bug. The CCC really doesn't work with .NET 2.0

hmmm, now where did I put that Omega exe file

Sandok · Dec 8, 2005, 10:43 PM

Working here...

sk3 · Dec 8, 2005, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

Dont you think it is getting better as time progresses?

Definitely! i haven't installed them yet... i'll try them tomorrow

Sandok are they lighter?

ViRuS2k · Dec 8, 2005, 10:59 PM

3dmarks 2003 = 5.11 Official Bench!

3dmarks 2003 = 5.12 Official Bench!

3dmarks 2001se = 5.11 Official Bench!

3dmarks 2001se =5.12 Official Bench! = its going to be intresting to see this next bench becuse as you all know this bench is based on CPU more than graphics and with mild dualcore added to the driver set its going to be intresting what score i get above the 5.11 official set

3dmarks 2001se = 5.12 Official Bench!

Ohh MY GOD what a jump in speed, its incredible :o im gobsmaked lol
ATI what you done lol

3dmarks 2005 = 5.11 Offical Bench!

3dmarks 2005 = 5.12 Official Bench!

Well as you can see guys im very impressed with this 5.12 Official Set.
keep those X1800XT and Dualcore Optimizations coming ATI
some impressive leaps in this set + in 2005 im just shy of the 10k mark lol
im just useing overdive though once a proper clocking program comes out for the x1800XT or ATI tool gets release to support auto overclocking i will break that barrier

River · Dec 8, 2005, 11:07 PM

i know my system isn't as up to date as a lot of you with the dual cores or the newer cards, but this was a fast driver install, and the CCC loads up in 3 seconds. from most of what i remember from previous complaints, the majority disliked the slow load time for the CCC?

thanxz again ATI ~

River

Dazog · Dec 8, 2005, 11:23 PM

Thanx Terry and Crew.

Now I can't wait for that AVIVO Codec ;P

Santa gonna bring it for xmas?

Robert McClelland · Dec 8, 2005, 11:51 PM

Wow nice downloads speed I was getting 5k-9k avg on my dial up

I just got done downloading I report back soon.

later tonight. I let you know if my CCC works under netframe 2.0 because I have uninstalled netframe 1.1 lol

Raptor · Dec 9, 2005, 12:26 AM

I have only the .net 2.0 installed and CCC will NOT work. Bravo

Not good ati, not good....

Chaos · Dec 9, 2005, 12:29 AM

I couldnt get it to work either, but I was able to revert to the CCC from 5.11 and all the functionality appears to be fine

Dark Lord · Dec 9, 2005, 12:38 AM

couple benches i ran here

5.9
HL2 VST - 111.94 (1024x768 6xaa 16xaf)
D3 ROE custom demo 61.0 (Ultra, 2xAA 16xAF)

5.12
HL2 - 109.7
D3 - 61.9

Most Wanted, the shadows seem much better and it seems to run much smoother with these. i havnt tried BF2 yet.

Jitter · Dec 9, 2005, 12:49 AM

Quick Benches for me compared to Omega 5.11

FEAR 1-2 FPS increase
ATT Benchmark aprrox 50 points higher
Aquamark approx 500 points lower

INSTG8R · Dec 9, 2005, 01:21 AM

It made a mess out of Nightvision in BF2 Special Forces makes a wierd reflection now(NV is hard enough to use)

Wesleyrpg · Dec 9, 2005, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CATALYST maker

we will not be posting the control panel any longer. Please use CCC, ATI Tray Tools, an old version of the control panel, or nothing at all

why are you forcing your CCC crap on us when its still classed as major bloatware by the majority of people in here?

The CCC doesn't work with .NET 2.0, is slow as hell, and comsumes more memory than azureus gone wild!

Why would you do this to us, the loyal customer? Just cause your X1000 series of cards suck balls, doesn't mean you need go into 'driver suicide' mode!

-J_B- · Dec 9, 2005, 02:19 AM

So it dosent work the .Net 2.0?

rawd · Dec 9, 2005, 02:30 AM

Complete garbage, this is my last ATI card...

I'm not using that piece of crap CCC... I'm also running .NET 2.0 and I'm not installing 1.1 just to run a driver application THAT SHOULDNT REQUIRE SPECIAL FRAMEWORK FOR BASIC FUNCTIONALITY

Raptor · Dec 9, 2005, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by -J_B-

So it dosent work the .Net 2.0?

Not on my rig. I'm sure as hell not going to have TWO versions of .Net on my rig either just to get this battleship of a app to work!

>GSXR<mrbusa · Dec 9, 2005, 02:52 AM

i will never install .bill 2.0 on my system,ever,ever,ever,ever.so that means i will never,never,never,never,never,never,buy another ATI CARD.total sell out company.and i am never one to put people down but you guys at ati got some serious kickbacks somewhere down the line.now that old cp is gone you will see how many people you lose.Nvidia will rule the world>>>>>>>>>later

daedal · Dec 9, 2005, 02:53 AM

So much hate towards the CCC.
*Shrug* Not like it changes much for me; as long as it works.
I can understand how you guys running .Net 2.0 can be upset though.

-J_B- · Dec 9, 2005, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Red

Not on my rig. I'm sure as hell not going to have TWO versions of .Net on my rig either just to get this battleship of a app to work!

Ok yep, dosent work on mine either. I got 2 BSOD's and 5 VPU recoreries uninstalling Netframe 2.

WiseAzz1 · Dec 9, 2005, 03:04 AM

I have no issues with the CCC and have 1.1 and 2.0 installed but overall driver isnt performing very well for me.

reggis · Dec 9, 2005, 03:06 AM

CCC works fine for me (.Net 1.1) -- Was going to get some benchies -- but got stuck on FEAR tonight (1440x900 -- 4/16 taa and hq - all options maxed and soft shadows) --- beautiful and plays great. Thanks ATi, I am one happy gamer tonight.

falconwar · Dec 9, 2005, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CATALYST maker

we will not be posting the control panel any longer. Please use CCC, ATI Tray Tools, an old version of the control panel, or nothing at all

Nice, what a great respect for customers who liked CP. I tried CCC last month and it still use a lot more resources on my computer than the standard CP. I dont understand why ATI does not listen to their customers. If I was alone to ask for the CP, I would understand why you will only provide CCC drivers but looks like we are a lot to ask ATI to keep providing the drivers with CP.

I bought only ATI cards since 3dfx has been sold to Nvidia but ATI no longer respect their customer and my next card will be an NVIDIA for sure.

The only sad thing is that, about me, many peoples will also move to Nvidia like me and those cards price will raise... Market rule.... Nvidia with no more competition...

I ll get my bonus in january so I will survive with cats 5.11 till I get a real video card from a company who respect and listen to their customers.

I dont want to be bad and respect those who like their ATI card and the CCC drivers but I just wanted to post my opinion.

Thanks,

Spyre · Dec 9, 2005, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ViRuS2k

ahhhh no shadow fix for NEED FOR SPEED MOST WANTED OR FABLE

and even in the Known problems list these 2 games arent listed, this sucks

does ati X800 Series or X1k Series have shadow hardware problems.

There is nothing to fix in fable for sure, the high quality shadows are only available on cards that support 4096 textures which is Nvidia cards and the X1x00 cards.

Spyre · Dec 9, 2005, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by falconwar

Nice, what a great respect for customers who liked CP. I tried CCC last month and it still use a lot more resources on my computer than the standard CP. I dont understand why ATI does not listen to their customers. If I was alone to ask for the CP, I would understand why you will only provide CCC drivers but looks like we are a lot to ask ATI to keep providing the drivers with CP.

I bought only ATI cards since 3dfx has been sold to Nvidia but ATI no longer respect their customer and my next card will be an NVIDIA for sure.

The only sad thing is that, about me, many peoples will also move to Nvidia like me and those cards price will raise... Market rule.... Nvidia with no more competition...

I ll get my bonus in january so I will survive with cats 5.11 till I get a real video card from a company who respect and listen to their customers.

I dont want to be bad and respect those who like their ATI card and the CCC drivers but I just wanted to post my opinion.

Thanks,

You can use the CP from an older driver so the people complaining that there is no 5.12 old CP download are complaining for no reason. If you have the 5.11 or earlier drivers just use the CP from that after updating to the 5.12 display drivers.

rawd · Dec 9, 2005, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Spyre

You can use the CP from an older driver so the people complaining that there is no 5.12 old CP download are complaining for no reason. If you have the 5.11 or earlier drivers just use the CP from that after updating to the 5.12 display drivers.

I tried that lame fix and it doesn't display the OVERDRIVE tab

What the hell is this... ATI what the hell is wrong with you

falconwar · Dec 9, 2005, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Spyre

You can use the CP from an older driver so the people complaining that there is no 5.12 old CP download are complaining for no reason. If you have the 5.11 or earlier drivers just use the CP from that after updating to the 5.12 display drivers.

Spyre, I will try it for sure but it mean no more optimization for the CP and I will probably miss many new features if I dont move to CCC in the future.

So my choice is done... NVIDIA next time

But as I said, I respect all of you who still prefer ATI. I hope many of you will still prefer ATI to make some competition vs NVIDIA.

>GSXR<mrbusa · Dec 9, 2005, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyre

You can use the CP from an older driver so the people complaining that there is no 5.12 old CP download are complaining for no reason. If you have the 5.11 or earlier drivers just use the CP from that after updating to the 5.12 display drivers.

that is not the point.how many new driver sets is the old cp going to work with????the point of the complaint by most is the take it or leave it atitude from ati.and the fact we not only have to install bloatware from the driver set but also a third party app that is the ultimate bloatware.and if we want to benefit from all the new optimizations in the future the we will HAVE to do this or use a third party tweaking app that is usually a little behind the release dates of the drivers.or we have to stay atleast a few weeks behind to wait for omegas and sometimes he skips a month and sometimes they arent his best work.so yes ati taking away old cp that uses no resources and just WORKS, ticks alot of people off.ESPECIALLY ME ME ME ME ME ME ME >LOL

-J_B- · Dec 9, 2005, 04:04 AM

FEAR has gone up 1FPS on my 9600xt, BattleField 2 also seems be to running a lot smoother.

Robert McClelland · Dec 9, 2005, 04:11 AM

Blah I have both netframe 1.0 and 2.0 installed works fine for me hehe

>GSXR<mrbusa · Dec 9, 2005, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert McClelland

Blah I have both netframe 1.0 and 2.0 installed works fine for me hehe

uninstall that crap bloatware that uses who knows how many cpu cycles and countless ram resources and see how well that driver set works.im not trying to start a fight or down anybody for using what they like.but come on,what other driver ever in the history of pcs have required something like this to run properly.and im not talking about needing windows or dx9 or whatever.

Dec 8, 2005, 10:59 PM	#34
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,331 Rep Power: 59 System Specs	3dmarks 2003 = 5.11 Official Bench! 3dmarks 2003 = 5.12 Official Bench! 3dmarks 2001se = 5.11 Official Bench! 3dmarks 2001se =5.12 Official Bench! = its going to be intresting to see this next bench becuse as you all know this bench is based on CPU more than graphics and with mild dualcore added to the driver set its going to be intresting what score i get above the 5.11 official set 3dmarks 2001se = 5.12 Official Bench! Ohh MY GOD what a jump in speed, its incredible :o im gobsmaked lol ATI what you done lol 3dmarks 2005 = 5.11 Offical Bench! 3dmarks 2005 = 5.12 Official Bench! Well as you can see guys im very impressed with this 5.12 Official Set. keep those X1800XT and Dualcore Optimizations coming ATI some impressive leaps in this set + in 2005 im just shy of the 10k mark lol im just useing overdive though once a proper clocking program comes out for the x1800XT or ATI tool gets release to support auto overclocking i will break that barrier Last edited by ViRuS2k; Dec 9, 2005 at 12:01 AM.

Dec 8, 2005, 11:07 PM	#35
River -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 174 Rep Power: 0	thanxz ATI i know my system isn't as up to date as a lot of you with the dual cores or the newer cards, but this was a fast driver install, and the CCC loads up in 3 seconds. from most of what i remember from previous complaints, the majority disliked the slow load time for the CCC? thanxz again ATI ~ River __________________ Dell Dimension 4550 P4, 2.4ghz, 533mhz FSB 1gig ddr ATI Radeon 9700TX, 128mb DDR 17" digital flat panel Harmon Kardon speakers SoundBlaster Live 5.1 Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse Intel Pro/100 VE Windows XP Pro "did you want cheese with that?"

Dec 8, 2005, 11:51 PM	#37
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Weston Ohio Posts: 6,920 Rep Power: 123 System Specs	Wow nice downloads speed I was getting 5k-9k avg on my dial up I just got done downloading I report back soon. later tonight. I let you know if my CCC works under netframe 2.0 because I have uninstalled netframe 1.1 lol __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/701500896.png

Dec 9, 2005, 12:26 AM	#38
Raptor DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: California USA Posts: 464 Rep Power: 0	I have only the .net 2.0 installed and CCC will NOT work. Bravo Not good ati, not good.... __________________ [COLOR=Green][COLOR=DarkOrange] P4C-800 DELUXE/P4 3.4 NORTHWOOD/2 GB CORSAIR PC3200/X850XTPE/2 300 GB MAXTOR HD'S/LOGITECH G5/LOGITECH Z-5500/CREATIVE XFI EXTREME MUSIC/MS 4000 KEYBOARD/Vizio VX37L HDTV/Toshiba HD-A2 HD DVD and Toshiba HD-XA1/Oppo HV970HD SACD/DVD-A universal player/Xbox 360/Sony PS3. [/COLOR][/COLOR]

Dec 9, 2005, 12:29 AM	#39
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,082 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	I couldnt get it to work either, but I was able to revert to the CCC from 5.11 and all the functionality appears to be fine __________________

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Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 54	Working here...

Dec 8, 2005, 11:23 PM	#36
Dazog DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 128 Rep Power: 0	Thanx Terry and Crew. Now I can't wait for that AVIVO Codec ;P Santa gonna bring it for xmas?

Dec 9, 2005, 12:38 AM	#40
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,793 Rep Power: 94 System Specs	couple benches i ran here 5.9 HL2 VST - 111.94 (1024x768 6xaa 16xaf) D3 ROE custom demo 61.0 (Ultra, 2xAA 16xAF) 5.12 HL2 - 109.7 D3 - 61.9 Most Wanted, the shadows seem much better and it seems to run much smoother with these. i havnt tried BF2 yet. __________________

Dec 9, 2005, 12:49 AM	#41
Jitter HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	Quick Benches for me compared to Omega 5.11 FEAR 1-2 FPS increase ATT Benchmark aprrox 50 points higher Aquamark approx 500 points lower __________________ Sony Vaio PCV-RX670 P4 1.8ghz XP Pro SP2 1 GB PC2100 RAM ATI All in Wonder 9700 pro Audigy 2 ZS Aquamark ~29,500 3dMark03 ~ 5,000

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Dec 9, 2005, 02:19 AM	#44
-J_B- DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 89 Rep Power: 0	So it dosent work the .Net 2.0? __________________

Dec 9, 2005, 02:30 AM	#45
rawd DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Complete garbage, this is my last ATI card... I'm not using that piece of crap CCC... I'm also running .NET 2.0 and I'm not installing 1.1 just to run a driver application THAT SHOULDNT REQUIRE SPECIAL FRAMEWORK FOR BASIC FUNCTIONALITY

Dec 9, 2005, 02:52 AM	#47
>GSXR<mrbusa im a FREAK Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,102 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	i will never install .bill 2.0 on my system,ever,ever,ever,ever.so that means i will never,never,never,never,never,never,buy another ATI CARD.total sell out company.and i am never one to put people down but you guys at ati got some serious kickbacks somewhere down the line.now that old cp is gone you will see how many people you lose.Nvidia will rule the world>>>>>>>>>later

Dec 9, 2005, 02:53 AM	#48
daedal Uber Coffee Drinker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gatineau, Quebec Posts: 2,250 Rep Power: 0	So much hate towards the CCC. Shrug Not like it changes much for me; as long as it works. I can understand how you guys running .Net 2.0 can be upset though. __________________

Dec 9, 2005, 03:04 AM	#50
WiseAzz1 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	I have no issues with the CCC and have 1.1 and 2.0 installed but overall driver isnt performing very well for me.

Dec 9, 2005, 03:06 AM	#51
reggis DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Dakota Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	CCC works fine for me (.Net 1.1) -- Was going to get some benchies -- but got stuck on FEAR tonight (1440x900 -- 4/16 taa and hq - all options maxed and soft shadows) --- beautiful and plays great. Thanks ATi, I am one happy gamer tonight.

Dec 9, 2005, 04:04 AM	#58
-J_B- DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 89 Rep Power: 0	FEAR has gone up 1FPS on my 9600xt, BattleField 2 also seems be to running a lot smoother. __________________

Dec 9, 2005, 04:11 AM	#59
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Weston Ohio Posts: 6,920 Rep Power: 123 System Specs	Blah I have both netframe 1.0 and 2.0 installed works fine for me hehe __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/701500896.png

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