DHzer0point 0.8443 Release

PoopyTheJ · Apr 29, 2006, 10:15 PM

DHzer0point 0.8443 Release Notes

Based on the Nvidia 84.43 set
DHzer0point Quality and performance optimizations
SLI and Laptop install and performance issues fixed
SLI performance optimizations
Clipping and shadow optimizations updated
Fog optimizations updated
As a little treat we have also modified the new Nvidia CP to work with our 0.8443 set. The only issues we've run into in beta testing are some laptop users may not be able to use the new CP, this is a problem with the CP itself and we are unable to change it until it's updated. Also setting AA and AF through the new CP may not work. Otherwise all other options work and it's a pretty slick interface so we thought you'd enjoy the options.

Issues
New CP may have some bugs not noted above, if you run into any issues please let us know as we can't fix it if we don't know it's broken.

Future items
More SLI and general performance enhancements
Working over the new CP to get full functionality if possible.

Grab yours at www.driverheavendownloads.net and let us know your findings here!

SuperVisor · Apr 30, 2006, 03:01 AM

I tried the new control panel but not liking it. How do I switch back to the old one could not find the setting to do it.

PoopyTheJ · Apr 30, 2006, 04:13 AM

Just choose it in the drop down menu when you right click, the new CP is on top of the old one, ie right click on desktop and instead of choosing the control panel choose the option underneath that is standard from normal releases.

mkk · May 1, 2006, 12:17 PM

Nice enough drivers and just as explained the new control panel isn't in the way if one doesn't want to use it. I installed this set just to check that one out and it seems promising. It's certainly no resource hog and the layout is a step in the right direction for the average user. I wonder if nVidia is going to finish it for release soon. In the meantime I use the standard panel together with nHancer for better profile management.

ccbrianf · May 4, 2006, 02:46 AM

Just curious if there is any more detailed information available about the tweaks you have performed in your drivers than those that are provided with the release notes.

I'm not interested in the how. You have to keep something secret for your drivers to be unique ;-).

But, as a developer, I'm interested in a more detailed description of what you think you did than things like "Improved SLI performance" or "shader cull optimazations", etc. would imply.

Is that possible to give away?

Thanks.

WWNSX · May 5, 2006, 08:33 PM

Would it be possible to add a Trackmania Sunrise profile by default to the DH Zeropoint Drivers so you guys can work your magic

? if not where are all these profiles for teh games stored as i'd like to look at the details and see if i can make one.

-WWNSX

Espion · May 7, 2006, 05:39 AM

I only lose my app profiles when I roll back drivers or use driver cleaner. When updating to newer drivers the only thing I lose are my color profiles

Compared to the normal drivers + coolbits, there seems to be a nice improvement in image quality. My FPS might of dropped a little, but that's not really a problem with this card anyway.

fobis · May 7, 2006, 08:51 AM

The application profiles will always be lost when switching drivers. =\
But it's good to hear that these improved IQ for you.

pigdog · May 7, 2006, 10:03 AM

I'm running a Dell Inspiron 9300. That's the one with the 6800 GO gpu. I have a Viewsonic 19' LCD connected to it, as well as a seperate mouse and keyboard.

My issue is that since installing the latest DHzeropoint's (0.8843) every time I boot my lappy up, I have to re-configure the whole screen setup I have for using the 19' VS instead of the lappie's own screen..

Also, the Nvidia CP is just blank. Nothing appears in any of the panels except for the Help links.

I've uninstalled and reinstalled the Zeros; same problems. I re-downloaded and tried again; no good.

I re-installed the old Drvs (81.54's) and everything worked perfectly.

And I did the standard right thing - used DC Pro each time.

It's not a real drama, but I rather like using the Zeros. They look much nicer imho.

pigdog · May 7, 2006, 10:06 AM

Sorry, forget something: I purchased and downloaded Earth 2160 from steam. If when playing it, I use the Zeros, it causes my lappy to BSOD

about every 10 minutes or so.

I've investigated the error codes, and it seems to be the graphics drivers.

Once again, if I install the 81.54 set, it never happens (so far

)

Cheers
jb

e!i · May 7, 2006, 11:48 AM

I find your drivers quite good, but with the 8x.21 set, they left a string in my registry, when i installed newer drivers, i had 5 strings left there instead of 4. This never happens with other drivers.

fobis · May 7, 2006, 08:19 PM

Very odd... Where are these registry strings left? We'll look into it.
pigdog, if the new CP doesn't work, just use the old one. I still like the old one better, myself.

And as for your BSOD problem, we'll look into it... Are you interested in beta testing, maybe?

pigdog · May 8, 2006, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fobis

Very odd... Where are these registry strings left? We'll look into it.
pigdog, if the new CP doesn't work, just use the old one. I still like the old one better, myself.

And as for your BSOD problem, we'll look into it... Are you interested in beta testing, maybe?

I'd certainly be interested. It'd be good to help put something back into the DH community, particularly as laptops/notebooks are slowly starting to provide a more resonably competitive platform for game playing.

Something else that might come in handy; I have access to to a wide range of the latest laptops through work, so I can run some fairly informative comparisons.

Anyhow, thanks for the reply
cheers
pd

e!i · May 8, 2006, 12:13 PM

[QUOTE=fobis]Very odd... Where are these registry strings left? We'll look into it.
]
ok, HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/system/currentcontrolset/control/video, i have 5 strings here (should be 4?), two of which have more variables (ie two which have multiple REG_BINARY entries)
Also left in my msconfig/startup tab is DHzpColor (i had to untick it). I now this was left here recently because i have only had one set of DHzero drivers since my last format.

bragebang · May 9, 2006, 08:32 AM

I've just installed the 0.8443 to play CoD2 and, though everything else seems to be working nicely, every time I reboot, I receive a "Windows Script Host" error.

"Can't find script engine "VGScript" for script "C:\Windows\System32\DHzpColor.vbs"."

This might of course be a stupid mistake of my own, but I just wanted to let you know.

Brage

PoopyTheJ · May 9, 2006, 02:48 PM

ccbrianf, there are variables allowed in the drivers for the way the drivers handle certain instructions and compatibility settings. By tweaking those, changing them and recording results we enhance the performance and IQ of the driver. We strive to have the most stable, best looking and performing drivers available. Nvidia, has to comply with WHQL rules for releases we don't. Some things which wouldn't work for that we enable. Also changing the way the drivers do things like back face culling, SLI compatibility, pixel shading and vertex shading we are able to squeeze a litle extra performance out to offset the demands of the increased IQ we put in the drivers. Some settings work to enhance performance across the board some only in certain situations. Some settings work better on newer hardware than on old, we try to strike a balance however we do aim for the 6x series and above for our optimizations as those are the cards which are dx9 compatible and thus give us a wider range of options when telling the graphics card where to store textures, how to process textures, pixel shader instructions etc.

PoopyTheJ · May 9, 2006, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bragebang

I've just installed the 0.8443 to play CoD2 and, though everything else seems to be working nicely, every time I reboot, I receive a "Windows Script Host" error.

"Can't find script engine "VGScript" for script "C:\Windows\System32\DHzpColor.vbs"."

This might of course be a stupid mistake of my own, but I just wanted to let you know.

Brage

If you don't have any visual basic runtimes installed you'll recieve that error. Which OS are you using? Winxp Pro sp2 should never receive that error you probably will run into it in win2k or sp1 or previous versions of winxp.

ccbrianf · May 9, 2006, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoopyTheJ

ccbrianf, there are variables allowed in the drivers for the way the drivers handle certain instructions and compatibility settings. By tweaking those, changing them and recording results we enhance the performance and IQ of the driver.

Thanks for the reply, but I really know all of the generics you state here. I'm interested in the exact what, not the how. For instance:

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoopyTheJ

like back face culling, SLI compatibility, pixel shading and vertex shading ... telling the graphics card where to store textures, how to process textures, pixel shader instructions etc.

I'm content to let you figure out and keep secret the registry settings, etc. to "improve back face culling, SLI compatibility, pixel and vertex shading, etc." I want to know exactly what improving "back face culling, SLI compatibility, pixel and vertex shading, texture storage, etc." does from an application developers point of view.

Ie. What specific improvements/rendering changes are done to my application, and or how do I write my application to take specific advantage of a particular tweak. I'm sure the answer isn't: "You shouldn't care as these tweaks are all improvements and universally applicable."

I assume the answer may be that you just don't really know the details. You test the undocumented tweaks that nVidia has in their drivers across a wide range of games and just choose the ones that work the best without really knowing exactly what they do from an application development or engineering level?

Is it not possible to give out more details without compromising an NDA or your driver's uniqueness?

wrathofgod · May 17, 2006, 05:54 AM

Would have used these but could not find a way to kill the new control panel. Right click option is not there as stated previously in this thread. =[

Back to another modded driver. =[

Apr 29, 2006, 10:15 PM	#1
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 64	DHzer0point 0.8443 Release DHzer0point 0.8443 Release Notes Based on the Nvidia 84.43 set DHzer0point Quality and performance optimizations SLI and Laptop install and performance issues fixed SLI performance optimizations Clipping and shadow optimizations updated Fog optimizations updated As a little treat we have also modified the new Nvidia CP to work with our 0.8443 set. The only issues we've run into in beta testing are some laptop users may not be able to use the new CP, this is a problem with the CP itself and we are unable to change it until it's updated. Also setting AA and AF through the new CP may not work. Otherwise all other options work and it's a pretty slick interface so we thought you'd enjoy the options. Issues New CP may have some bugs not noted above, if you run into any issues please let us know as we can't fix it if we don't know it's broken. Future items More SLI and general performance enhancements Working over the new CP to get full functionality if possible. Grab yours at www.driverheavendownloads.net and let us know your findings here! __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Apr 30, 2006, 04:13 AM	Thread Starter #3
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 64	Just choose it in the drop down menu when you right click, the new CP is on top of the old one, ie right click on desktop and instead of choosing the control panel choose the option underneath that is standard from normal releases. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

May 4, 2006, 02:46 AM	#5
ccbrianf DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Feature details? Just curious if there is any more detailed information available about the tweaks you have performed in your drivers than those that are provided with the release notes. I'm not interested in the how. You have to keep something secret for your drivers to be unique ;-). But, as a developer, I'm interested in a more detailed description of what you think you did than things like "Improved SLI performance" or "shader cull optimazations", etc. would imply. Is that possible to give away? Thanks.

May 5, 2006, 08:33 PM	#6
WWNSX DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles California a.k.a Hell Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	Profile Request Would it be possible to add a Trackmania Sunrise profile by default to the DH Zeropoint Drivers so you guys can work your magic ? if not where are all these profiles for teh games stored as i'd like to look at the details and see if i can make one. -WWNSX __________________ [AMD Athlon XP 2800+ Barton @ 2.200MHZ @1.650v \| Asus A7N8X Deluxe Rev 2.0 w/1008 RedDwarf Bios & Bios Savior \| Swiftech MCX462-U+Vantec Tornado 80mm \| 512MB (2x256MB) Corsair 3200LL @ 2-3-3-11, 2.7VDimm \| eVGA 6800GS 256MB 8X AGP Core @ 400MHZ Mem @ 1.100MHZ \| Antec [COLOR=#0000ff]TrueBlue[/COLOR] 480W PSU \| [COLOR=#00ff00]SoundStorm[/COLOR] \| Maxtor 250GB w/16MB Cache, WD 40GB \| Yamaha CRW-[COLOR=#ff0000]F1[/COLOR]E, Sony DDU1621, 3½ Floppy]

May 7, 2006, 05:39 AM	#7
Espion DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	I only lose my app profiles when I roll back drivers or use driver cleaner. When updating to newer drivers the only thing I lose are my color profiles Compared to the normal drivers + coolbits, there seems to be a nice improvement in image quality. My FPS might of dropped a little, but that's not really a problem with this card anyway. __________________ ~Espion AMD64 3500+ Venice @ 2.7GHz \| DFI LP UT Ultra-D \| eVGA 7900GT @ 550/880 \| 2GB(4x512) OCZ @ DDR450 \| 600W Niosetaker

Apr 30, 2006, 03:01 AM	#2
SuperVisor DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	I tried the new control panel but not liking it. How do I switch back to the old one could not find the setting to do it.

May 1, 2006, 12:17 PM	#4
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,384 Rep Power: 120 System Specs	Nice enough drivers and just as explained the new control panel isn't in the way if one doesn't want to use it. I installed this set just to check that one out and it seems promising. It's certainly no resource hog and the layout is a step in the right direction for the average user. I wonder if nVidia is going to finish it for release soon. In the meantime I use the standard panel together with nHancer for better profile management.

May 7, 2006, 08:51 AM	#8
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Rep Power: 49	The application profiles will always be lost when switching drivers. =\ But it's good to hear that these improved IQ for you. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

May 7, 2006, 10:03 AM	#9
pigdog HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 471 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	I'm running a Dell Inspiron 9300. That's the one with the 6800 GO gpu. I have a Viewsonic 19' LCD connected to it, as well as a seperate mouse and keyboard. My issue is that since installing the latest DHzeropoint's (0.8843) every time I boot my lappy up, I have to re-configure the whole screen setup I have for using the 19' VS instead of the lappie's own screen.. Also, the Nvidia CP is just blank. Nothing appears in any of the panels except for the Help links. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the Zeros; same problems. I re-downloaded and tried again; no good. I re-installed the old Drvs (81.54's) and everything worked perfectly. And I did the standard right thing - used DC Pro each time. It's not a real drama, but I rather like using the Zeros. They look much nicer imho. __________________

May 7, 2006, 10:06 AM	#10
pigdog HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 471 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	Sorry, forget something: I purchased and downloaded Earth 2160 from steam. If when playing it, I use the Zeros, it causes my lappy to BSOD about every 10 minutes or so. I've investigated the error codes, and it seems to be the graphics drivers. Once again, if I install the 81.54 set, it never happens (so far ) Cheers jb __________________

May 7, 2006, 11:48 AM	#11
e!i DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Posts: 138 Rep Power: 0	I find your drivers quite good, but with the 8x.21 set, they left a string in my registry, when i installed newer drivers, i had 5 strings left there instead of 4. This never happens with other drivers.

May 7, 2006, 08:19 PM	#12
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Rep Power: 49	Very odd... Where are these registry strings left? We'll look into it. pigdog, if the new CP doesn't work, just use the old one. I still like the old one better, myself. And as for your BSOD problem, we'll look into it... Are you interested in beta testing, maybe? __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

May 8, 2006, 12:13 PM	#14
e!i DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Posts: 138 Rep Power: 0	[QUOTE=fobis]Very odd... Where are these registry strings left? We'll look into it. ] ok, HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/system/currentcontrolset/control/video, i have 5 strings here (should be 4?), two of which have more variables (ie two which have multiple REG_BINARY entries) Also left in my msconfig/startup tab is DHzpColor (i had to untick it). I now this was left here recently because i have only had one set of DHzero drivers since my last format.

May 9, 2006, 08:32 AM	#15
bragebang DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I've just installed the 0.8443 to play CoD2 and, though everything else seems to be working nicely, every time I reboot, I receive a "Windows Script Host" error. "Can't find script engine "VGScript" for script "C:\Windows\System32\DHzpColor.vbs"." This might of course be a stupid mistake of my own, but I just wanted to let you know. Brage

May 9, 2006, 02:48 PM	Thread Starter #16
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 64	ccbrianf, there are variables allowed in the drivers for the way the drivers handle certain instructions and compatibility settings. By tweaking those, changing them and recording results we enhance the performance and IQ of the driver. We strive to have the most stable, best looking and performing drivers available. Nvidia, has to comply with WHQL rules for releases we don't. Some things which wouldn't work for that we enable. Also changing the way the drivers do things like back face culling, SLI compatibility, pixel shading and vertex shading we are able to squeeze a litle extra performance out to offset the demands of the increased IQ we put in the drivers. Some settings work to enhance performance across the board some only in certain situations. Some settings work better on newer hardware than on old, we try to strike a balance however we do aim for the 6x series and above for our optimizations as those are the cards which are dx9 compatible and thus give us a wider range of options when telling the graphics card where to store textures, how to process textures, pixel shader instructions etc. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

May 17, 2006, 05:54 AM	#19
wrathofgod DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Would have used these but could not find a way to kill the new control panel. Right click option is not there as stated previously in this thread. =[ Back to another modded driver. =[