driver problem with GF 7600 GT (AGP)

Dirk99 · Oct 26, 2006, 08:31 PM

Hallo!

I´ve got a XFX GeForce 7600 GT and first installed the original driver 91.47. The direct3d test with dxdiag failed when it tests 8 interfaces (hope this is the right english word). The whole system is shut down with a silent klick and directly starts new.
After that I tried the newest nVidia-driver from this site, hoping it would do a better job. But the same problem occurs.

My system:
Mainboard: Asus P4P800-E
CPU: P4 2,8GHz @ 800MHz FSB
Power: 400W (20A @ 12V)
Graphic: XFX GeForce 7600 GT (AGP-Version)

Hope you can help me.

Best regards
Dirk

Edit: After I installed the new graphic card, I made a new installation of Windows XP SP2.

fobis · Oct 26, 2006, 09:30 PM

The 7600GT AGP doesn't need to have extra power directly from the PSU, does it?
If it does, make sure your power lead is plugged in properly.
If I'm following you right, your system just shuts off after you try to test Direct3D with your new card. But since you've just done a clean installation of Windows, I don't think it would be the drivers, personally.

Dirk99 · Oct 26, 2006, 09:38 PM

Yes the card gets direct power from the PSU, and the power lead is plugged in.

The system shuts of, after the test with 8 interfaces. At one time it even starts the test with 9 interfaces and shuts of then. The test with 7 interfaces will be completed every time.

If it isn´t the driver, what could be the problem?

Dirk99 · Oct 27, 2006, 11:19 AM

In one hour I will try the card inside another PC. We will see, what happens.

If I want to messure the power that is used by the graphic card, is it enough to put a ampere-meter inside the 12V power supply line? Or do I have to take a look at the 5V and 3,3V supply, too? That will be impossible, I think, because the 3,3V supply goes over the AGP-Slot, so no chance for my ampere-meter...

Dirk99 · Oct 27, 2006, 02:39 PM

Hallo again!

The graphic card runs in the other PC with a 3 years old MSI-Board and a AMD-CPU in a good way. After the installation of the nVidia 91.47 driver we made the Direct3D-Test and the Aquamark Benchmark-Test. No problems.
(Only the cooler on the bridge of the graphic-card was even hot when we touch the cooler. Is that ok?)

At home I switched a Amperemeter between the extra 12V power supply and the graphic card. Until the drivers are loaded, the card need 1,9A. After that only 0,9A. Even in the Direct3D-Test the card needs only 0,9A, until the system crashes down.

My friend got a better PSU, but the 12V-power shouldn´t be the problem, because the card needs only 1A. But what´s about the 3,3V power? My PSU provide 20A at 3,3V, his even 30A at 3,3V. Could this be a reason for the crashes?

Hope you have new ideas.

Thank you!
Dirk

Prince_Link · Oct 27, 2006, 02:50 PM

OMG,

the card needs more then 1amp, the tool your using isn't measuing properly.

a 7600GT requires a 400w psu with atleast 24a,.. i recommend buying a decent brand psu with more then 28a just to be case.

its always better to have more power then to have just enough.

Dirk99 · Oct 27, 2006, 03:12 PM

I used a multimeter to measure the power. I think it is proper.

The card needs more than 1A, but where does they came from? From the 12V line, or from the 3,3V line? I only measure the 12V line.

Nevertheless it seems that I have to buy a new one. *grr*

Dirk99 · Oct 27, 2006, 11:36 PM

Ok, I took the time to test the PC with different PSUs, even the one from my friend, where the graphic card runs. With every PSU the system crashes down.
So, my friend thought, what would happen, if we only put one LCD at the g-card? And what do we see? With every PSU, all tests ran succesfully. We test the other DVI, everythings fine. Only if I use both DVIs the system crashes, even if I disable one in the software.

Why? There are two DVIs and I´m forced to plug off the cable if I want to play a game with my PC? Some games support dual view, aren´t they?

Perhaps you have an idea where the problem could be.

Best regards
Dirk

fobis · Oct 28, 2006, 02:53 AM

That's a pretty big problem. I'd recommend calling XFX and see what they have to say...

CDsDontBurn · Oct 28, 2006, 03:04 AM

seems like an RMA is in order if one of the DVI plugs is not working properly. if it's not too late, go back to the vendor and exchange it, it will probably be faster that way than to do an RMA.

Dirk99 · Oct 28, 2006, 07:49 AM

Both DVI plugs are working alone if there is no plug on the other DVI. I have tested it. But if there are two LCDs plugged in, the Direct3D-Test crashes the system.

Do you think another card doesn´t have this problem? Don´t you think its a general problem?
I will try to call XFX and the shop where I bought the card. We will see.

CDsDontBurn · Oct 28, 2006, 08:55 AM

it more than likely is an issue with the card itself. both DVI ports should work when running in either single display or dual display mode, and not make games crash either.

Dirk99 · Oct 28, 2006, 11:59 AM

Mmh, do you think so? When I use the inofficial 96.89 driver, the system crashes on the firest cube on the Direct3D test.

When I use one screen, or use both screen as one (wide horizontal view) everything works fine. In the last case, one screen is switched off when I make the Direct3D test. Only when the system indicates two screens, the test crashes the system.

But as you said, games shouldn´t crash a dual-view system.

CDsDontBurn · Oct 28, 2006, 02:53 PM

yea, this is a DVI port issue. you've already tried different drivers, both official and unofficial. the system crashing the way you're describing it does is not a driver issue at all.

Dirk99 · Oct 28, 2006, 03:11 PM

You think it is a generall DVI port problem? If it is so, other cards should have the same problem, aren´t they? But google doesn´t show me other people with this problem...

Or is it a problem of this card itselt?

What should I do? Send the card back or hope for better drivers?

Best regards
Dirk

CDsDontBurn · Oct 28, 2006, 10:19 PM

it's a problem w/just your card. send it back, or if possible, exchange it w/the vendor which would be easier.

Whizsper · Oct 29, 2006, 02:50 PM

hey.. i've bought my 7600 Gt Tdh (agp) from Leadtek thursday.. i had to leave friday.. anyhow.. what's the deal with it ? im pretty disappointed.. i start it with a fresh Xp Sp2 and i've installed the 91.47 drivers.. everything seamed to go fine until i was trying to watch a movie.. it simply crashes.. it's not about codecs and stuff like that.. maybe i should mention my system.. it's pretty old but. MSi KT400 , AMD Xp 2000+ , 1G Ram 400 with this Gf 7600GT.. now lately it started to sound like a mosquito when im trying to play or do some banchmarks..it came with Serious Sam 2.. the game crashes at the very beggining .. any ideeas dudes ?

Dirk99 · Oct 29, 2006, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

it's a problem w/just your card. send it back, or if possible, exchange it w/the vendor which would be easier.

Do you think another card doesn´t have this problem? The issue won´t appear if the driver would switch of the second monitor. I don´t know what to do, if I exchange it and the new card has the same problem? So many questions with no answer...

Whizsper · Oct 29, 2006, 09:04 PM

Problem solved.. it works smoothly now.. the key stands (at least in my case) in the mainboard drivers.. i've installed the latest and everything turned well

.. u should try this too..

Dirk99 · Oct 30, 2006, 05:51 PM

I have the latest mainboard drivers. Or are you doing special things with the key?

Oct 26, 2006, 08:31 PM	#1
Dirk99 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	driver problem with GF 7600 GT (AGP) Hallo! I´ve got a XFX GeForce 7600 GT and first installed the original driver 91.47. The direct3d test with dxdiag failed when it tests 8 interfaces (hope this is the right english word). The whole system is shut down with a silent klick and directly starts new. After that I tried the newest nVidia-driver from this site, hoping it would do a better job. But the same problem occurs. My system: Mainboard: Asus P4P800-E CPU: P4 2,8GHz @ 800MHz FSB Power: 400W (20A @ 12V) Graphic: XFX GeForce 7600 GT (AGP-Version) Hope you can help me. Best regards Dirk Edit: After I installed the new graphic card, I made a new installation of Windows XP SP2.

Oct 26, 2006, 09:30 PM	#2
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Rep Power: 38	The 7600GT AGP doesn't need to have extra power directly from the PSU, does it? If it does, make sure your power lead is plugged in properly. If I'm following you right, your system just shuts off after you try to test Direct3D with your new card. But since you've just done a clean installation of Windows, I don't think it would be the drivers, personally. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Oct 27, 2006, 02:50 PM	#6
Prince_Link HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	OMG, the card needs more then 1amp, the tool your using isn't measuing properly. a 7600GT requires a 400w psu with atleast 24a,.. i recommend buying a decent brand psu with more then 28a just to be case. its always better to have more power then to have just enough. __________________

Oct 28, 2006, 02:53 AM	#9
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Rep Power: 38	That's a pretty big problem. I'd recommend calling XFX and see what they have to say... __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Oct 28, 2006, 03:04 AM	#10
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,085 Rep Power: 160 System Specs	seems like an RMA is in order if one of the DVI plugs is not working properly. if it's not too late, go back to the vendor and exchange it, it will probably be faster that way than to do an RMA. __________________ CD's Corner // Her first day // A year later // RX-8 Club 3Dmark06 - 4176 // 3Dmark05 - 7459 // 3Dmark03 - 14289 // PCmark05 - 4453 // PCmark04 - 6297

Oct 26, 2006, 09:38 PM	#3
Dirk99 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Yes the card gets direct power from the PSU, and the power lead is plugged in. The system shuts of, after the test with 8 interfaces. At one time it even starts the test with 9 interfaces and shuts of then. The test with 7 interfaces will be completed every time. If it isn´t the driver, what could be the problem?

Oct 27, 2006, 11:19 AM	#4
Dirk99 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	In one hour I will try the card inside another PC. We will see, what happens. If I want to messure the power that is used by the graphic card, is it enough to put a ampere-meter inside the 12V power supply line? Or do I have to take a look at the 5V and 3,3V supply, too? That will be impossible, I think, because the 3,3V supply goes over the AGP-Slot, so no chance for my ampere-meter...

Oct 27, 2006, 02:39 PM	#5
Dirk99 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Hallo again! The graphic card runs in the other PC with a 3 years old MSI-Board and a AMD-CPU in a good way. After the installation of the nVidia 91.47 driver we made the Direct3D-Test and the Aquamark Benchmark-Test. No problems. (Only the cooler on the bridge of the graphic-card was even hot when we touch the cooler. Is that ok?) At home I switched a Amperemeter between the extra 12V power supply and the graphic card. Until the drivers are loaded, the card need 1,9A. After that only 0,9A. Even in the Direct3D-Test the card needs only 0,9A, until the system crashes down. My friend got a better PSU, but the 12V-power shouldn´t be the problem, because the card needs only 1A. But what´s about the 3,3V power? My PSU provide 20A at 3,3V, his even 30A at 3,3V. Could this be a reason for the crashes? Hope you have new ideas. Thank you! Dirk

Oct 27, 2006, 03:12 PM	#7
Dirk99 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	I used a multimeter to measure the power. I think it is proper. The card needs more than 1A, but where does they came from? From the 12V line, or from the 3,3V line? I only measure the 12V line. Nevertheless it seems that I have to buy a new one. grr

Oct 27, 2006, 11:36 PM	#8
Dirk99 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Ok, I took the time to test the PC with different PSUs, even the one from my friend, where the graphic card runs. With every PSU the system crashes down. So, my friend thought, what would happen, if we only put one LCD at the g-card? And what do we see? With every PSU, all tests ran succesfully. We test the other DVI, everythings fine. Only if I use both DVIs the system crashes, even if I disable one in the software. Why? There are two DVIs and I´m forced to plug off the cable if I want to play a game with my PC? Some games support dual view, aren´t they? Perhaps you have an idea where the problem could be. Best regards Dirk

Oct 28, 2006, 07:49 AM	#11
Dirk99 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Both DVI plugs are working alone if there is no plug on the other DVI. I have tested it. But if there are two LCDs plugged in, the Direct3D-Test crashes the system. Do you think another card doesn´t have this problem? Don´t you think its a general problem? I will try to call XFX and the shop where I bought the card. We will see.

Oct 28, 2006, 08:55 AM	#12
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,085 Rep Power: 160 System Specs	it more than likely is an issue with the card itself. both DVI ports should work when running in either single display or dual display mode, and not make games crash either. __________________ CD's Corner // Her first day // A year later // RX-8 Club 3Dmark06 - 4176 // 3Dmark05 - 7459 // 3Dmark03 - 14289 // PCmark05 - 4453 // PCmark04 - 6297

Oct 28, 2006, 11:59 AM	#13
Dirk99 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Mmh, do you think so? When I use the inofficial 96.89 driver, the system crashes on the firest cube on the Direct3D test. When I use one screen, or use both screen as one (wide horizontal view) everything works fine. In the last case, one screen is switched off when I make the Direct3D test. Only when the system indicates two screens, the test crashes the system. But as you said, games shouldn´t crash a dual-view system.

Oct 28, 2006, 02:53 PM	#14
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,085 Rep Power: 160 System Specs	yea, this is a DVI port issue. you've already tried different drivers, both official and unofficial. the system crashing the way you're describing it does is not a driver issue at all. __________________ CD's Corner // Her first day // A year later // RX-8 Club 3Dmark06 - 4176 // 3Dmark05 - 7459 // 3Dmark03 - 14289 // PCmark05 - 4453 // PCmark04 - 6297

Oct 28, 2006, 03:11 PM	#15
Dirk99 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	You think it is a generall DVI port problem? If it is so, other cards should have the same problem, aren´t they? But google doesn´t show me other people with this problem... Or is it a problem of this card itselt? What should I do? Send the card back or hope for better drivers? Best regards Dirk

Oct 28, 2006, 10:19 PM	#16
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,085 Rep Power: 160 System Specs	it's a problem w/just your card. send it back, or if possible, exchange it w/the vendor which would be easier. __________________ CD's Corner // Her first day // A year later // RX-8 Club 3Dmark06 - 4176 // 3Dmark05 - 7459 // 3Dmark03 - 14289 // PCmark05 - 4453 // PCmark04 - 6297

Oct 29, 2006, 02:50 PM	#17
Whizsper DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	hey.. i've bought my 7600 Gt Tdh (agp) from Leadtek thursday.. i had to leave friday.. anyhow.. what's the deal with it ? im pretty disappointed.. i start it with a fresh Xp Sp2 and i've installed the 91.47 drivers.. everything seamed to go fine until i was trying to watch a movie.. it simply crashes.. it's not about codecs and stuff like that.. maybe i should mention my system.. it's pretty old but. MSi KT400 , AMD Xp 2000+ , 1G Ram 400 with this Gf 7600GT.. now lately it started to sound like a mosquito when im trying to play or do some banchmarks..it came with Serious Sam 2.. the game crashes at the very beggining .. any ideeas dudes ?

Oct 29, 2006, 09:04 PM	#19
Whizsper DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Problem solved.. it works smoothly now.. the key stands (at least in my case) in the mainboard drivers.. i've installed the latest and everything turned well .. u should try this too..

Oct 30, 2006, 05:51 PM	#20
Dirk99 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	I have the latest mainboard drivers. Or are you doing special things with the key?