BIG PROBLEM!!!! PLEASSE HELP!

Geforce man · Aug 10, 2002, 06:48 PM

Hey guys.. I am new to this forum but have always been reading to what has been said. I just purchased a geforce 4 ti 4200 64mb ddr...I used to habe geforce 2 mx 200...well I took out my old display drivers... and figured that was all i had to do... I shut it down..put in the new vid card.... I turn it on and my ASUS A7V333 motherboard reported that there was a prob with my cpu being overclocked... I didnt overclock my cpu or anything... The monitor didnt even turn on.. It was as if the monitor wasnt connect to anything at all.. The pc couldnt even read the hardrive....it didnt have that sound where it detects that hard drive..there was no beep in the beginning either....if someone knows the answer to my prob please help..thnx in advance....

specs..
cpu 1800+
a7v333 mobo
geforce4 ti 4200 64 mb ddr
256 mb ddr ram

Lee · Aug 10, 2002, 06:53 PM

Check and make sure the card is inserted all the way some people don't push it all the way in

Geforce man · Aug 10, 2002, 06:55 PM

yea i reseated the card like 10 times..no joke...

...i dont know....wat else could it be?

Geforce man · Aug 10, 2002, 06:59 PM

i see i need to add more detail to my prob...
I currently have no display drivers installed cause i just formatted my drive...and installed winXP pro...and it just wont read it...Same happened with my bros vid card..which is a gforce 2 mx 400...I would turn on the pc...but it wouldnt find the vid card..It was like the monitor wasnt even connected to anything..and the hard drive is not even being read...thnx again...

sinjin · Aug 10, 2002, 07:08 PM

have you by any chance installed george breese's latency patch? if so, uninstall it, reboot, install your vid drivers and all should be well again.

Geforce man · Aug 10, 2002, 07:15 PM

nope havent done that..i jus formatted my pc....i havent even finished installing XP...i want to install everything with the new vid card in there

sinjin · Aug 10, 2002, 08:00 PM

i would set your bios settings to default since youre starting from scratch...still no go, then toss the card in another box ...or have you already done that....

sinjin · Aug 10, 2002, 08:03 PM

oh! i misread your first post completely...sorry man.

turn off the power, unplug the cord, ground yourself, pull out the cmos battery, reset the cmos jumper for a couple minutes, put back the jumper and battery, check all your connections again, reseat your cards and ram...good luck.

Geforce man · Aug 10, 2002, 09:31 PM

i already did all that..

..i dont know what it could be...this happens with the geforce ti 4200..as well as my bros geforce2 mx 400...buy my geforce2 mx 200 runs fine...i dont get it..

Geforce man · Aug 10, 2002, 09:33 PM

thnx for takin the time to answer my questions..

sinjin · Aug 10, 2002, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Geforce man
I turn it on and my ASUS A7V333 motherboard reported that there was a prob with my cpu being overclocked... The monitor didnt even turn on.. The pc couldnt even read the hardrive....it didnt have that sound where it detects that hard drive..there was no beep in the beginning either

at what point did you get a cpu oc error? and where would you find such an error if the monitor didnt turn on?

*cough*

Aug 10, 2002, 10:27 PM

HHmmmm i hate to ask but :

Do you know that the GF4 needs alot more power than the Gf2??.

You might wanna try another psu (power supply).

Or try removing anything you dont need to boot it up to an O/S(second hard drives ,pci cards or even un needed usb devices (in other words ..free up your power).

If it works well you know its the PSU )

To make sure it isnt anything else (conflict of some sort) try taking things out one piece at a time then trying etc.

This based on a problem i had when i went from my gf2 mx200 to the Gf3 ti 500 which needs even less power than a GF4.

Btw you could have left the old drivers installed since it is a nvidia card also.

Good luck and please tell us your outcome so that we know anything you may discover to later help someone else.

Good-Luck !!

P.S Is the Graphics card the ONLY thing you changed ??(maybe some ram etc.)

C0NAN · Aug 10, 2002, 11:23 PM

Make sure when you tighten the PCI Screw it doesn't move the card. This used to happen to me before until I saw that the card was just ever so slowly being moved once I tightened the screw. Put a finger on the card while tightening the screw.

Geforce man · Aug 10, 2002, 11:23 PM

ill tell all my specs soo u know..i jus paid bout 7 bills for my system...
i got a new case...420 watt power supply...1800+xp...256 mushkin ram...
geforce 4 ti4200 (used to be geforce 2 mx 200)...lite on dvd player..cd rom..tdk burner..
floppy...light inside...3 fans....Nic card...thats practically it...

keep in mind that have just formatted my comp ..with a new install of windows XP pro..
the monitor does not turn on...it also seems as if the hard drive cannot be read...and
there is no beep in the beginning to signal the pc is operating.....
when i power on the switch..nothing goes on screen the monitor is dead...but since
asus motherboards have a speech thingy that tells u ur problem..it told me
"system failed due to CPU over-clocking"

in my troubleshooting guide from the mobo manual it sais i should do 1 of 2 things:

1).in jumper free mode, check your cpu settings in bios and make sure you only set to the recommended settings...( i did that)

2).in jumper mode, refer to section 2.7 switches and jumpers..(i chose jumper free mode..so i dont need to bother with this..but checked it anyway...)

i dont know wats going on..the monitor is jus dead..and my system isnt turning on...
thnx for reading and trying to help..

Geforce man · Aug 10, 2002, 11:24 PM

i only change the graphics card..

Aug 11, 2002, 02:36 AM

But if reinstall the old one it plays right ???

have you tried this card on another system??

If your system warns you of Overclocking without you having done so maybe the problem is in the cpu voltage that may be overclocking your card and thus reporting it so.

can you take your brothers power supply and fit it to your system to try it.

Never believe that something new always works problem-free no mater how much you payed for it.
Maybe you damaged something yourself due to static discharge etc.

I suggest trying out your parts one by one on another system if possible.
Start with the PSU then graphics then Cpu(this one is a little harder) and finaly the HD
and even the ram.
THese problems can only be solved by trial and error or elimination of certain possibilities.
So make sure you stuff works first and then you look at the motherboard that may have been damaged.

Even if you take your system to a dealer /technician they will do the same.

Geforce man · Aug 11, 2002, 11:38 AM

thnx..i will try it...tell u results later..

Geforce man · Aug 11, 2002, 11:40 AM

and they said...it may be my agp voltage..the AGP voltage has been a prob for several users...but my Asus a7v333 does not give me an option in the bios to change AGP voltage...anyone got any ideas? or solutions?

Aug 11, 2002, 12:28 PM

my best bet is get another mobo ..

it should be able to handle the card by default.

Since it doesnt i suggest getting a different board cause they might have a factory
made problem and even a new but same type will not solve your problem.
Or you can try another gf4 card and see if it works better.
For answers regarding your mobo go to the asus forom or faq..im sure you will find a solution there.

Geforce man · Aug 11, 2002, 03:46 PM

dang man..i jus got this mobo like a month ago from frys!!..man..ima see if i could return it...thnx for ur time...

Aug 12, 2002, 01:06 AM

What ever the outcome we would still like to know what you did to solve your problem...so keep in touch.

And again ..Good Luck

Ryoko · Aug 13, 2002, 11:42 AM

sounds to me like you changed the cpu multiplier... or something did. set your mobo to jumper mode, set the fsb to 133mhz, and set the cpu multiplier to 11.5x

Geforce man · Aug 13, 2002, 02:27 PM

thanx..for the help...i heard that it had something to do with the asus mobo...apparently, it was something about the asus mobo that wasnt compatible...I still dont know the prob..so i purchased the soyo dragon ultra plat....its fine now..thnx for the help ....

Aug 10, 2002, 06:48 PM	#1
Geforce man DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: So Cali Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	BIG PROBLEM!!!! PLEASSE HELP! Hey guys.. I am new to this forum but have always been reading to what has been said. I just purchased a geforce 4 ti 4200 64mb ddr...I used to habe geforce 2 mx 200...well I took out my old display drivers... and figured that was all i had to do... I shut it down..put in the new vid card.... I turn it on and my ASUS A7V333 motherboard reported that there was a prob with my cpu being overclocked... I didnt overclock my cpu or anything... The monitor didnt even turn on.. It was as if the monitor wasnt connect to anything at all.. The pc couldnt even read the hardrive....it didnt have that sound where it detects that hard drive..there was no beep in the beginning either....if someone knows the answer to my prob please help..thnx in advance.... specs.. cpu 1800+ a7v333 mobo geforce4 ti 4200 64 mb ddr 256 mb ddr ram

Aug 10, 2002, 06:53 PM	#2
Lee DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	re: Video Card Prob Check and make sure the card is inserted all the way some people don't push it all the way in

Aug 10, 2002, 06:55 PM	Thread Starter #3
Geforce man DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: So Cali Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	heh..tried that yea i reseated the card like 10 times..no joke... ...i dont know....wat else could it be?

Aug 10, 2002, 06:59 PM	Thread Starter #4
Geforce man DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: So Cali Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	more detail i see i need to add more detail to my prob... I currently have no display drivers installed cause i just formatted my drive...and installed winXP pro...and it just wont read it...Same happened with my bros vid card..which is a gforce 2 mx 400...I would turn on the pc...but it wouldnt find the vid card..It was like the monitor wasnt even connected to anything..and the hard drive is not even being read...thnx again...

Aug 10, 2002, 07:08 PM	#5
sinjin the last samurai Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,086 Rep Power: 0	have you by any chance installed george breese's latency patch? if so, uninstall it, reboot, install your vid drivers and all should be well again. __________________

Aug 10, 2002, 07:15 PM	Thread Starter #6
Geforce man DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: So Cali Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	nope havent nope havent done that..i jus formatted my pc....i havent even finished installing XP...i want to install everything with the new vid card in there

Aug 10, 2002, 08:00 PM	#7
sinjin the last samurai Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,086 Rep Power: 0	i would set your bios settings to default since youre starting from scratch...still no go, then toss the card in another box ...or have you already done that.... __________________

Aug 10, 2002, 08:03 PM	#8
sinjin the last samurai Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,086 Rep Power: 0	oh! i misread your first post completely...sorry man. turn off the power, unplug the cord, ground yourself, pull out the cmos battery, reset the cmos jumper for a couple minutes, put back the jumper and battery, check all your connections again, reseat your cards and ram...good luck. __________________

Aug 10, 2002, 09:31 PM	Thread Starter #9
Geforce man DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: So Cali Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	i already did all that.. i already did all that.. ..i dont know what it could be...this happens with the geforce ti 4200..as well as my bros geforce2 mx 400...buy my geforce2 mx 200 runs fine...i dont get it..

Aug 10, 2002, 09:33 PM	Thread Starter #10
Geforce man DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: So Cali Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	thnx.. thnx for takin the time to answer my questions..

Aug 10, 2002, 10:27 PM	#12
GREEKRAGE Guest Posts: n/a	HHmmmm i hate to ask but : Do you know that the GF4 needs alot more power than the Gf2??. You might wanna try another psu (power supply). Or try removing anything you dont need to boot it up to an O/S(second hard drives ,pci cards or even un needed usb devices (in other words ..free up your power). If it works well you know its the PSU ) To make sure it isnt anything else (conflict of some sort) try taking things out one piece at a time then trying etc. This based on a problem i had when i went from my gf2 mx200 to the Gf3 ti 500 which needs even less power than a GF4. Btw you could have left the old drivers installed since it is a nvidia card also. Good luck and please tell us your outcome so that we know anything you may discover to later help someone else. Good-Luck !! P.S Is the Graphics card the ONLY thing you changed ??(maybe some ram etc.)

Aug 10, 2002, 11:23 PM	#13
C0NAN DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 52 Rep Power: 0	Make sure when you tighten the PCI Screw it doesn't move the card. This used to happen to me before until I saw that the card was just ever so slowly being moved once I tightened the screw. Put a finger on the card while tightening the screw. __________________ Thermaltake Xaser III V1000D Case 7 Cooler Master LED Fans P4 3.0C HT 800mhz @ 3.3 Ghz Asus P4P800 Deluxe 1 Gig Geil Ultra Platinum DDR 500 Memory Timing = 2.5-4-4-7-8 @ 2.65 volts Sapphire 9800 Pro 128mb Maxtor Diamond Max Plus 9 160 Gig Maxtor Diamond Max Plus 9 80 Gig Enermax EG465P-VE Power Supply

Aug 10, 2002, 11:23 PM	Thread Starter #14
Geforce man DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: So Cali Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	...? ill tell all my specs soo u know..i jus paid bout 7 bills for my system... i got a new case...420 watt power supply...1800+xp...256 mushkin ram... geforce 4 ti4200 (used to be geforce 2 mx 200)...lite on dvd player..cd rom..tdk burner.. floppy...light inside...3 fans....Nic card...thats practically it... keep in mind that have just formatted my comp ..with a new install of windows XP pro.. the monitor does not turn on...it also seems as if the hard drive cannot be read...and there is no beep in the beginning to signal the pc is operating..... when i power on the switch..nothing goes on screen the monitor is dead...but since asus motherboards have a speech thingy that tells u ur problem..it told me "system failed due to CPU over-clocking" in my troubleshooting guide from the mobo manual it sais i should do 1 of 2 things: 1).in jumper free mode, check your cpu settings in bios and make sure you only set to the recommended settings...( i did that) 2).in jumper mode, refer to section 2.7 switches and jumpers..(i chose jumper free mode..so i dont need to bother with this..but checked it anyway...) i dont know wats going on..the monitor is jus dead..and my system isnt turning on... thnx for reading and trying to help..

Aug 10, 2002, 11:24 PM	Thread Starter #15
Geforce man DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: So Cali Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	yes.. i only change the graphics card..

Aug 11, 2002, 02:36 AM	#16
GREEKRAGE Guest Posts: n/a	But if reinstall the old one it plays right ??? have you tried this card on another system?? If your system warns you of Overclocking without you having done so maybe the problem is in the cpu voltage that may be overclocking your card and thus reporting it so. can you take your brothers power supply and fit it to your system to try it. Never believe that something new always works problem-free no mater how much you payed for it. Maybe you damaged something yourself due to static discharge etc. I suggest trying out your parts one by one on another system if possible. Start with the PSU then graphics then Cpu(this one is a little harder) and finaly the HD and even the ram. THese problems can only be solved by trial and error or elimination of certain possibilities. So make sure you stuff works first and then you look at the motherboard that may have been damaged. Even if you take your system to a dealer /technician they will do the same.

Aug 11, 2002, 11:38 AM	Thread Starter #17
Geforce man DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: So Cali Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	thnx.. thnx..i will try it...tell u results later..

Aug 11, 2002, 11:40 AM	Thread Starter #18
Geforce man DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: So Cali Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	i jus called techs at frys.. and they said...it may be my agp voltage..the AGP voltage has been a prob for several users...but my Asus a7v333 does not give me an option in the bios to change AGP voltage...anyone got any ideas? or solutions?

Aug 11, 2002, 12:28 PM	#19
GREEKRAGE Guest Posts: n/a	my best bet is get another mobo .. it should be able to handle the card by default. Since it doesnt i suggest getting a different board cause they might have a factory made problem and even a new but same type will not solve your problem. Or you can try another gf4 card and see if it works better. For answers regarding your mobo go to the asus forom or faq..im sure you will find a solution there.

Aug 11, 2002, 03:46 PM	Thread Starter #20
Geforce man DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: So Cali Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	thnx.. dang man..i jus got this mobo like a month ago from frys!!..man..ima see if i could return it...thnx for ur time...

Aug 12, 2002, 01:06 AM	#21
GREEKRAGE Guest Posts: n/a	What ever the outcome we would still like to know what you did to solve your problem...so keep in touch. And again ..Good Luck

Aug 13, 2002, 11:42 AM	#22
Ryoko American Soldier Join Date: May 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,725 Rep Power: 0	sounds to me like you changed the cpu multiplier... or something did. set your mobo to jumper mode, set the fsb to 133mhz, and set the cpu multiplier to 11.5x

Aug 13, 2002, 02:27 PM	Thread Starter #23
Geforce man DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: So Cali Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	thnx .. thanx..for the help...i heard that it had something to do with the asus mobo...apparently, it was something about the asus mobo that wasnt compatible...I still dont know the prob..so i purchased the soyo dragon ultra plat....its fine now..thnx for the help ....