Nvidia response to Catalyst AI?

DPGX · Sep 23, 2004, 02:41 AM

Just speculation, but who else expects nVidia to have some type of reply to ATi's new drivers? Remember a few months ago we read of a 7x.xx series of drivers on 3dchipset, it wouldnt be all that unlikely for it to be some type of a performance driver given their track record. It just seems like their drivers havent undergone any huge changes lately, at the very least maybe even a new control applet? I always enjoy seeing what the two companys offer in the way of drivers honestly

Mike

ExitiosuS · Sep 23, 2004, 02:55 AM

Gotta live for the competition - we always seem to benefit.

DPGX · Sep 23, 2004, 03:02 AM

LOL Too true, my father owns one of each high end card, X800 Pro & a 6800GT so its kinda interesting to see which hes using at any given point plus he has the fun of getting to try new drivers for each. Im envious as I cant afford it right now lol just purchased a new car and it cut back on my computer funds a little.

Mike

ExitiosuS · Sep 23, 2004, 12:56 PM

I wish I owned a more advanced card - I still run on a 64mb Radeon 9000. lol
So I only see minor benefits.

But ya, you're right. In the past, NVidia has usually tried to take a good lead with a better driver/rebuilt driver. Or not just a lead, but a healthy par. If they didn't, I'd be afraid.

Damn you rich people

Ping_of_HG · Sep 23, 2004, 03:20 PM

Heh, the Pro is no match for a GT.

And isn't the ATI AI a response to Nvidia's drivers? Therefore if Nvidia responds, it will be minor tweaks and mucho marketing to something they already have.

Shinjikun · Sep 23, 2004, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPGX

Just speculation, but who else expects nVidia to have some type of reply to ATi's new drivers? Remember a few months ago we read of a 7x.xx series of drivers on 3dchipset, it wouldnt be all that unlikely for it to be some type of a performance driver given their track record. It just seems like their drivers havent undergone any huge changes lately, at the very least maybe even a new control applet? I always enjoy seeing what the two companys offer in the way of drivers honestly

Mike

I wouldn't be surprised; it would be typical nVidia. I would be shocked if they DIDN'T respond.

Wiredzero · Sep 23, 2004, 04:37 PM

And as I recall...There was a point when ATi had released it's new "hot card", and the nVidia GeForce4's were just out. Then there was the performance driver release...delivering quite a performance boost as I recall, and outperforming ATi's cards again.

Is it possible that nVidia is gonna pull off that trick again? Time will tell, but I wouldn't put it past 'em.

classic_leon · Sep 25, 2004, 09:22 PM

Every time the new driver does not effect the performance or quality too much on my FX5200, even though 7x.xx series of drivers. So I change the card to 9800PRO.

Elvin Presler · Sep 26, 2004, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ping_of_HG

Heh, the Pro is no match for a GT.

And isn't the ATI AI a response to Nvidia's drivers?

Bingo! Nvidia is way ahead of ATI in the driver department. ATI is struggling to keep up and failing miserably.

Wiredzero · Sep 26, 2004, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvin Presler

Bingo! Nvidia is way ahead of ATI in the driver department. ATI is struggling to keep up and failing miserably.

This remains to be seen. Track record would suggest that nVidia has a better driver department...that's certainly true.

However, ATi's releases for drivers tends to be more frequent.

They've both got capabilities in the hardware department. Be fair where it's due. Right now, neither is signifigantly ahead of the other.

Elvin Presler · Sep 26, 2004, 05:10 AM

I said Nvidia whoops ATI in the driver department. This does not remain to be seen. This is fact and has been for....ever. They both have damned fine hardware right now, but ATI's drivers are cr4p by comparison. Always have been and still are. They're bloated with useless toys (smart shaders, VPU recovery), they have way more bugs in way more games than Nvidia drivers do, and they may release more drivers, but they hardly ever fix the bugs and most driver versions add more bugs than they fix.

The new control panel is a joke! It requires .NET and uses WAY too much resource to do nothing the normal CP couldn't do. More idiotic, useless new toys, while all the same old bugs remain and all the long requested features like game profiles, fixed gamma settings, a digital vibrance/saturation feature, are still missing.

I just came back to Nvidia after a year of 9800 Pro ownership, and man is it greener on this side! I loved my 9800 Pro, because Nvidia's FX line is/was cr4p, but I can't be happier with my new 6800GT and Nvidia's drivers now.

~~bigirb2002~~ · Sep 27, 2004, 05:13 PM

elvin i have u know in longhorn the drivrs will be based on .net. an it seams nvidia is now building a driver on .net so what u got to say now

digitalwanderer · Sep 27, 2004, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvin Presler

I said Nvidia whoops ATI in the driver department. This does not remain to be seen. This is fact and has been for....ever. They both have damned fine hardware right now, but ATI's drivers are cr4p by comparison. Always have been and still are. They're bloated with useless toys (smart shaders, VPU recovery), they have way more bugs in way more games than Nvidia drivers do, and they may release more drivers, but they hardly ever fix the bugs and most driver versions add more bugs than they fix.

The new control panel is a joke! It requires .NET and uses WAY too much resource to do nothing the normal CP couldn't do. More idiotic, useless new toys, while all the same old bugs remain and all the long requested features like game profiles, fixed gamma settings, a digital vibrance/saturation feature, are still missing.

I just came back to Nvidia after a year of 9800 Pro ownership, and man is it greener on this side! I loved my 9800 Pro, because Nvidia's FX line is/was cr4p, but I can't be happier with my new 6800GT and Nvidia's drivers now.

How do you feel about nVidia's recent announcement that their future drivers will also be based on the .NET framework?

mike2h · Sep 27, 2004, 05:48 PM

i think nvidia as always had the edge with drivers. unfortunatley, dig & bigirb sre correct about .NET.

Wiredzero · Sep 27, 2004, 07:36 PM

We'll just have to wait n' see what they do with 'em. Maybe there's some cute little advantage in there, performance wise...that we're not aware of. (I doubt it, but ya never know...)

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 27, 2004, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvin Presler

Bingo! Nvidia is way ahead of ATI in the driver department. ATI is struggling to keep up and failing miserably.

not really ATI is all

It's possable to disable ati's new AI
in Nv's drivers so far there is no disableing all thier optimzations

thats what i'm waiting for

Nacht · Sep 28, 2004, 03:42 AM

yes you can disable them neon...it's ati that doesnt have the option to disable them.

Sep 23, 2004, 02:41 AM	#1
DPGX DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Nvidia response to Catalyst AI? Just speculation, but who else expects nVidia to have some type of reply to ATi's new drivers? Remember a few months ago we read of a 7x.xx series of drivers on 3dchipset, it wouldnt be all that unlikely for it to be some type of a performance driver given their track record. It just seems like their drivers havent undergone any huge changes lately, at the very least maybe even a new control applet? I always enjoy seeing what the two companys offer in the way of drivers honestly Mike

Sep 23, 2004, 04:37 PM	#7
Wiredzero HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The other side of the screen. Posts: 156 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	And as I recall...There was a point when ATi had released it's new "hot card", and the nVidia GeForce4's were just out. Then there was the performance driver release...delivering quite a performance boost as I recall, and outperforming ATi's cards again. Is it possible that nVidia is gonna pull off that trick again? Time will tell, but I wouldn't put it past 'em. __________________

Sep 25, 2004, 09:22 PM	#8
classic_leon HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wu Han, Hu Bei, P.R.China Posts: 1,238 Rep Power: 0	Every time the new driver does not effect the performance or quality too much on my FX5200, even though 7x.xx series of drivers. So I change the card to 9800PRO. __________________ Fashion keeps us alive. YouP-PAX Please visit http://www.A-PAX.co.uk to discuss the computer mods. The latest YouP PAX modded drivers are provided on the site.

Sep 26, 2004, 05:10 AM	#11
Elvin Presler DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: USA Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	I said Nvidia whoops ATI in the driver department. This does not remain to be seen. This is fact and has been for....ever. They both have damned fine hardware right now, but ATI's drivers are cr4p by comparison. Always have been and still are. They're bloated with useless toys (smart shaders, VPU recovery), they have way more bugs in way more games than Nvidia drivers do, and they may release more drivers, but they hardly ever fix the bugs and most driver versions add more bugs than they fix. The new control panel is a joke! It requires .NET and uses WAY too much resource to do nothing the normal CP couldn't do. More idiotic, useless new toys, while all the same old bugs remain and all the long requested features like game profiles, fixed gamma settings, a digital vibrance/saturation feature, are still missing. I just came back to Nvidia after a year of 9800 Pro ownership, and man is it greener on this side! I loved my 9800 Pro, because Nvidia's FX line is/was cr4p, but I can't be happier with my new 6800GT and Nvidia's drivers now. Last edited by Elvin Presler; Sep 26, 2004 at 10:50 AM.

Sep 27, 2004, 05:48 PM	#14
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	i think nvidia as always had the edge with drivers. unfortunatley, dig & bigirb sre correct about .NET. __________________

Sep 23, 2004, 02:55 AM	#2
ExitiosuS Simian Masterpiece! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, Ont. Canada Posts: 358 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Gotta live for the competition - we always seem to benefit.

Sep 23, 2004, 03:02 AM	Thread Starter #3
DPGX DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	LOL Too true, my father owns one of each high end card, X800 Pro & a 6800GT so its kinda interesting to see which hes using at any given point plus he has the fun of getting to try new drivers for each. Im envious as I cant afford it right now lol just purchased a new car and it cut back on my computer funds a little. Mike

Sep 23, 2004, 12:56 PM	#4
ExitiosuS Simian Masterpiece! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, Ont. Canada Posts: 358 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I wish I owned a more advanced card - I still run on a 64mb Radeon 9000. lol So I only see minor benefits. But ya, you're right. In the past, NVidia has usually tried to take a good lead with a better driver/rebuilt driver. Or not just a lead, but a healthy par. If they didn't, I'd be afraid. Damn you rich people

Sep 23, 2004, 03:20 PM	#5
Ping_of_HG DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Heh, the Pro is no match for a GT. And isn't the ATI AI a response to Nvidia's drivers? Therefore if Nvidia responds, it will be minor tweaks and mucho marketing to something they already have.

Sep 27, 2004, 05:13 PM	#12
~~bigirb2002~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: virginia Posts: 53 Rep Power: 0	elvin i have u know in longhorn the drivrs will be based on .net. an it seams nvidia is now building a driver on .net so what u got to say now

Sep 27, 2004, 07:36 PM	#15
Wiredzero HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The other side of the screen. Posts: 156 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	We'll just have to wait n' see what they do with 'em. Maybe there's some cute little advantage in there, performance wise...that we're not aware of. (I doubt it, but ya never know...) __________________

Sep 28, 2004, 03:42 AM	#17
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	yes you can disable them neon...it's ati that doesnt have the option to disable them.