does anyone remember....

ATiWillCrumble · Oct 9, 2002, 03:19 PM

the time (a whlile back) in the GF2 days when nvidia released top qualitiy drivers i.e. 12.XX - 20.XX those worked great on my gf2mx200. i just wondered why the drivers they spew out nowerdays do not very little apart from some fancy new cpl's and mayby a bugfix or 2 but i remember neally all drivers upto erm let me see yea 21.XX or sumfin like that, always had a noticable speed boost which good + the usual fixes and extra reg keys added blah blah. i just wish those days would come back sob. i'm saying the 30.XX - 40.XX are utter sh*t but they could do with a noticable speed boost, i don't give a **** about benchmark tools i want the speed in games i used to have (speed it ok at the mo but i wanna see the increase!! many times i would load up serious sam just too see the effect and was happy to see some / certain improvments!).
i'm sure other people agree don't you?

Happy Gaming & ATi sux and Nvidia are the masters of gfx.

Ryoko · Oct 9, 2002, 06:19 PM

let's make this analogy... a video card is like an old car. has the potential for speed but the engine is too dirty/worn to get that speed. new drivers are like tune ups, new spark plugs, new wiring, new piston rings, things like that. once the engine is perfectly clean and rebuilt, nothing else you do will make it go faster, short of a turbocharger (overclocking). by the 21.83 release, the gf2's drivers were taking the card to its maximum potential. drivers aren't what give you the speed, the card is. drivers just clean the engine and unlock the speed for you. once that's done, all you can do is overclock or buy a faster card.

ATiWillCrumble · Oct 9, 2002, 08:46 PM

ah ha....that i did not know, but then why release new drivers? (yes to fix errors in apps / games) but why advertise the speed increase? its bogus advertising!!! or i am wrong hehe...

Ryoko · Oct 9, 2002, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ATiWillCrumble
ah ha....that i did not know, but then why release new drivers? (yes to fix errors in apps / games) but why advertise the speed increase? its bogus advertising!!! or i am wrong hehe...

speed increase for newer cards...

21.83's increased gf3's speed. 28xx and up increase gf4's speed. the gf3 line hasn't gotten any faster since 23.11... every new card is like getting a new fix-er upper. work on the engine a little and when you're done, get another old beater

ATiWillCrumble · Oct 10, 2002, 05:05 PM

hmmm mayby i should get a ti.....emmmm but my mx440 is ok for now. when games run really slow then i upgrade.

Vampyromaniac · Oct 10, 2002, 07:45 PM

Maybe you should get a Radeon 8500

EDIT (by some sneekee foo): [SIZE=small]muahahahahhaaaaa[/SIZE]

Maybe you should get a ti4200

EDIT (by Vpm.): Whaaaaa? hijacked?? Ehhh? uhhhh??? whooo??!? Bah! There's no AIW-Ti4200!!

ATiWillCrumble · Oct 11, 2002, 07:30 PM

erm 8500 ahahahahhahahahahhahahaahahcraphahahahahhaahah. i'll pass thnx.

RIV@NVX · Oct 11, 2002, 07:46 PM

8500 is NOT CRAP.

NVIDIA is crap.

Vampyromaniac · Oct 11, 2002, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RIV@NVX
8500 is NOT CRAP.

NVIDIA is crap.

Now, now. Let's not start THAT here, you crazy kids!

[SIZE=xx-small]P.S. audigy is crap

j.k.[/SIZE]

RIV@NVX · Oct 11, 2002, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
Now, now. Let's not start THAT here, you crazy kids!

[SIZE=xx-small]P.S. audigy is crap j.k.[/SIZE]

OK.
Audigy... - depends on hardware revision, but it is MOSTLY limited by shitty Creative drvs.

Frodo301 · Oct 12, 2002, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RIV@NVX
8500 is NOT CRAP.

NVIDIA is crap.

Having owned both the 8500 and my current ti4600 I can say each has it's own advantages and disadvantages. Neither qualifies as crap imho. Now as for the Audigy....

ATiWillCrumble · Oct 12, 2002, 09:27 AM

audigy has the squel of death & ati make drivers, so many drivers, ahh can't keep up, keep uninstall reinstall ahhhh new settings ahhh buggered slowdown ahhhh my pc has stopped working ahhhh rip out radeon and cry. *actual experiance may differ from description.

RIV@NVX · Oct 12, 2002, 02:06 PM

Frodo301, I agree. But when someone tells ATI is crap, I need to let them know about my opinion about NVIDIA.

Audigy works OK for me with kX Project Drivers. (Don't like Creative's ones).

Impulse · Oct 13, 2002, 08:41 PM

Dog shit and Nvidia are equal.

Ryoko · Oct 14, 2002, 08:28 PM

unless you all didn't know... this is not the flame warzone.

RIV@NVX · Oct 14, 2002, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ryoko
unless you all didn't know... this is not the flame warzone.

O, too bad.

ATiWillCrumble · Oct 15, 2002, 08:34 AM

lol

coldfrontt · Oct 18, 2002, 01:01 AM

I'm using Creative Audigy drivers, Visiontek GF3(pre-titanium) and XP pro in one rig, radeon 7000 32mb ddr, sblive and XP pro in another...and have NEVER had probs with any of this hardware.
And almost every driver(including the current 40.72's) have given me a modest speed increase.

Oct 9, 2002, 03:19 PM	#1
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	does anyone remember.... the time (a whlile back) in the GF2 days when nvidia released top qualitiy drivers i.e. 12.XX - 20.XX those worked great on my gf2mx200. i just wondered why the drivers they spew out nowerdays do not very little apart from some fancy new cpl's and mayby a bugfix or 2 but i remember neally all drivers upto erm let me see yea 21.XX or sumfin like that, always had a noticable speed boost which good + the usual fixes and extra reg keys added blah blah. i just wish those days would come back sob. i'm saying the 30.XX - 40.XX are utter sht but they could do with a noticable speed boost, i don't give a *** about benchmark tools i want the speed in games i used to have (speed it ok at the mo but i wanna see the increase!! many times i would load up serious sam just too see the effect and was happy to see some / certain improvments!). i'm sure other people agree don't you? Happy Gaming & ATi sux and Nvidia are the masters of gfx. __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d

Oct 9, 2002, 08:46 PM	Thread Starter #3
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	ah ha....that i did not know, but then why release new drivers? (yes to fix errors in apps / games) but why advertise the speed increase? its bogus advertising!!! or i am wrong hehe... __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d

Oct 10, 2002, 05:05 PM	Thread Starter #5
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	hmmm mayby i should get a ti.....emmmm but my mx440 is ok for now. when games run really slow then i upgrade. __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d

Oct 10, 2002, 07:45 PM	#6
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	muahahahahhaaaaa Maybe you should get a Radeon 8500 EDIT (by some sneekee foo): [SIZE=small]muahahahahhaaaaa[/SIZE] Maybe you should get a ti4200 EDIT (by Vpm.): Whaaaaa? hijacked?? Ehhh? uhhhh??? whooo??!? Bah! There's no AIW-Ti4200!! __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Oct 11, 2002, 07:30 PM	Thread Starter #7
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	erm 8500 ahahahahhahahahahhahahaahahcraphahahahahhaahah. i'll pass thnx. __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d

Oct 9, 2002, 06:19 PM	#2
Ryoko American Soldier Join Date: May 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,725 Rep Power: 0	let's make this analogy... a video card is like an old car. has the potential for speed but the engine is too dirty/worn to get that speed. new drivers are like tune ups, new spark plugs, new wiring, new piston rings, things like that. once the engine is perfectly clean and rebuilt, nothing else you do will make it go faster, short of a turbocharger (overclocking). by the 21.83 release, the gf2's drivers were taking the card to its maximum potential. drivers aren't what give you the speed, the card is. drivers just clean the engine and unlock the speed for you. once that's done, all you can do is overclock or buy a faster card.

Oct 11, 2002, 07:46 PM	#8
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	8500 is NOT CRAP. NVIDIA is crap. __________________ -- Vedran

Oct 12, 2002, 09:27 AM	Thread Starter #12
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	audigy has the squel of death & ati make drivers, so many drivers, ahh can't keep up, keep uninstall reinstall ahhhh new settings ahhh buggered slowdown ahhhh my pc has stopped working ahhhh rip out radeon and cry. *actual experiance may differ from description. __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d

Oct 12, 2002, 02:06 PM	#13
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Frodo301, I agree. But when someone tells ATI is crap, I need to let them know about my opinion about NVIDIA. Audigy works OK for me with kX Project Drivers. (Don't like Creative's ones). __________________ -- Vedran

Oct 13, 2002, 08:41 PM	#14
Impulse l33t Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 248 Rep Power: 0	Dog shit and Nvidia are equal.

Oct 14, 2002, 08:28 PM	#15
Ryoko American Soldier Join Date: May 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,725 Rep Power: 0	unless you all didn't know... this is not the flame warzone.

Oct 15, 2002, 08:34 AM	Thread Starter #17
ATiWillCrumble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 0	lol __________________ bored bored bored.....erm bored hmmmm f00d

Oct 18, 2002, 01:01 AM	#18
coldfrontt DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: canada Posts: 248 Rep Power: 0	I'm using Creative Audigy drivers, Visiontek GF3(pre-titanium) and XP pro in one rig, radeon 7000 32mb ddr, sblive and XP pro in another...and have NEVER had probs with any of this hardware. And almost every driver(including the current 40.72's) have given me a modest speed increase. __________________ [color=blue]TANSTAAFL![/color]