N00b Question - but this is a test!

Paladine · Oct 5, 2004, 02:55 AM

Ok, I have to wait for my 6800GT to come in (which I hope is before HL2)

Anyhow, I plan on building my system this weekend (see sig below) and the only thing I am missing is the Video Card! So I was going to use my old Aeolus Ti4200 128MB card in the mean time.

Sounds ok right?

Well when I do get my 6800GT I should be able to just replace my Ti4200 with it...no?

Without having to remove the drivers and reinstall them?? - Sounds like a dumb question, but to my knowledge there should be no issues.....well forseable ones that is.

I will be interest to see the quality difference between then two cards being that they will be the only change occurring.

Shinjikun · Oct 5, 2004, 03:36 AM

To be safe I'd still do a good ol' driver uninstall and reinstall. nVidia's driver architecture is unified of course so there's a chance of not having any problems -- but I wouldn't risk it with new hardware. You want to get that thing to play w/no issues ASAP.

Paladine · Oct 5, 2004, 05:01 AM

Hey thanks Shinjikun! I appreciate the replie and the advice. I will definitely do just that.

Shinjikun · Oct 5, 2004, 06:25 PM

No problem Paladine; have fun.

CDsDontBurn · Oct 5, 2004, 06:39 PM

i recomend a reformat. but that's just my opinion. i'd reformat even if i installed a new PSU

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Shinjikun · Oct 5, 2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pac-Man

i recomend a reformat. but that's just my opinion. i'd reformat even if i installed a new PSU

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That's a bit drastic... do you format when you install a new 80mm case fan too? Those LEDs need drivers you know.

CDsDontBurn · Oct 5, 2004, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinjikun

That's a bit drastic... do you format when you install a new 80mm case fan too? Those LEDs need drivers you know.

lol, not for fans i don't no. i just have alot of time on my hands between midnight and 5am

. i tend to install windows often anyways.

Shinjikun · Oct 5, 2004, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pac-Man

lol, not for fans i don't no. i just have alot of time on my hands between midnight and 5am

. i tend to install windows often anyways.

Whatever tickles your pickle so to speak. How long does it take you to get from format to 100% working?

I try to avoid my system getting to the point where I have to format at all costs; it takes me about 15 straight hours of setting up to get everything completely setup.

Paladine · Oct 6, 2004, 02:10 AM

Yeah it would take me that long as well, but this time I will definitely do a ghosting of the raw system install. At least it is a little faster! Thanks for the advice...now if my card ever gets here.

... I know...I know... patience. But I want it...

Sure hope gainward gets those cards into Canada asap!

Nacht · Oct 6, 2004, 03:39 AM

i reformat when i make major changes to hardware...like new memory, new proc or soemthing....it lets you truly witness the new hardware's performance

Wiredzero · Oct 6, 2004, 08:34 AM

I only bother when it's NECESSARY. (necessary to get more performance outa the ol' beater that is...)

CDsDontBurn · Oct 6, 2004, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinjikun

Whatever tickles your pickle so to speak. How long does it take you to get from format to 100% working?

I try to avoid my system getting to the point where I have to format at all costs; it takes me about 15 straight hours of setting up to get everything completely setup.

all i install after installing windows really are my drivers, 3Dmark01/03/05, msn messenger, AIM, my favorites menu (which consists of DH, my online banking page, image shack, and new egg), and whatever game i may be playing at the momment. so after formatting my drive, installing windows, and setting windows up the way i like it, it'll take me maybe about 1 1/2hrs. ~ 2hrs. depending on how much i pay attention to my installing of windows.

Shinjikun · Oct 6, 2004, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pac-Man

all i install after installing windows really are my drivers, 3Dmark01/03/05, msn messenger, AIM, my favorites menu (which consists of DH, my online banking page, image shack, and new egg), and whatever game i may be playing at the momment. so after formatting my drive, installing windows, and setting windows up the way i like it, it'll take me maybe about 1 1/2hrs. ~ 2hrs. depending on how much i pay attention to my installing of windows.

You're really lucky.

In any event I do agree with formatting when a major component is added to the system but I try to avoid it like the plague unless it's really needed.

CDsDontBurn · Oct 6, 2004, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinjikun

You're really lucky.

In any event I do agree with formatting when a major component is added to the system but I try to avoid it like the plague unless it's really needed.

why would you say that i'm lucky?

my system runs so much better after reformatting it. it performs better, i get better scores on all of the 3Dmark tests, usually everytime i format there are newer drivers out for my video card, or chipset.

BTW, i always do a low level format when i install windows

. i wanna make sure everything is gone when i've installed windows.

Shinjikun · Oct 6, 2004, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pac-Man

why would you say that i'm lucky?

my system runs so much better after reformatting it. it performs better, i get better scores on all of the 3Dmark tests, usually everytime i format there are newer drivers out for my video card, or chipset.

BTW, i always do a low level format when i install windows

. i wanna make sure everything is gone when i've installed windows.

Lucky in the sense that you're up and running in 2 hours. That's about 7 times less than me.

CDsDontBurn · Oct 7, 2004, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinjikun

Lucky in the sense that you're up and running in 2 hours. That's about 7 times less than me.

if you think i install windows too much, one of the guys from my work installs windows pretty much once a week. even i think that's too mcuh.

Paladine · Oct 7, 2004, 04:04 AM

You know after read this thread@ Overclockers.com and some related ones, I am starting to wonder if the I should even stick things out with the Nvidia card(s).

Starting to wonder if I should have shifted over to ATI (never had problems with either company....YET!)

CDsDontBurn · Oct 7, 2004, 04:49 AM

i've had both ATI and nVidia cards. I'm no fanboy, i just get what's best

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Shinjikun · Oct 7, 2004, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pac-Man

if you think i install windows too much, one of the guys from my work installs windows pretty much once a week. even i think that's too mcuh.

Yea I have a co-worker that formats every two weeks or so. Doesn't make too much sense but each to his own.

CDsDontBurn · Oct 8, 2004, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinjikun

Yea I have a co-worker that formats every two weeks or so. Doesn't make too much sense but each to his own.

lol. i swear i'm one of the few people here on DH who can't go more than a month w/o reformatting their PC

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Electroe · Oct 8, 2004, 09:14 AM

First, I would recommend formatting and re-installing Windows after a major hardware upgrade. You want the best performance and that'll only happen when no other drivers are hiding inside your computer.
I'd agree 2 hrs is lucky. Just thinking about backup up all the stuff is a pain in the arse. Re-installing WindowsXP is a breeze after trying to find everything necessary to backup.

Paladine · Oct 16, 2004, 12:15 AM

Well I finally got my Gainward 6800GT Golden Sample Card and I am going to try things out with just swapping the cards (Ti4200 for 6800GT) and see what happens with the use of Driver Cleaner and a reinstall of 61.77 drivers. I may actually try the newest release of Omega Drivers!

I will let you know how things go!

CDsDontBurn · Oct 16, 2004, 03:23 PM

heheh.....i just reinstalled winXP last night. i woke up early today just to finish installing 3Dmark 01/03/05 and a couple of other things as well.

Paladine · Oct 16, 2004, 05:07 PM

Well things went extremely well. No issues, and performance seems to be on par. Now the only thing is that with this card (One big MF) and all the cables already in the case....the case is not keeping things as cool as it did. So tonight I going to open it up once more to make so adjustments.

My Gainward seems to be running hotter than I thought it would. 61C on Load (Unreal Tournament or Battlefield Vietnam - 1280 X 1024 Res) for an hour. That seem too high?

CDsDontBurn · Oct 17, 2004, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Paladine

Well things went extremely well. No issues, and performance seems to be on par. Now the only thing is that with this card (One big MF) and all the cables already in the case....the case is not keeping things as cool as it did. So tonight I going to open it up once more to make so adjustments.

My Gainward seems to be running hotter than I thought it would. 61C on Load (Unreal Tournament or Battlefield Vietnam - 1280 X 1024 Res) for an hour. That seem too high?

Dude, your temps are below par. So you should be happy w/your temps. My idle is average 55C. My load is 70C~85C depending on room temperature, and intensity of game i'm playing.

Paladine · Oct 17, 2004, 08:49 AM

Hey thanks mano!

I just reconfigured my case setup and wiring, and with two fans blowing in directly towards the Video card I am able to keep the card at 68C on Load (1 Hour + on a game like BattleField Vietnam (1600x1200) ). So yes I am extremely happy now.

Idle temp is 56C!

Thanks for the info dude!

Oct 5, 2004, 02:55 AM	#1
Paladine DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	N00b Question - but this is a test! Ok, I have to wait for my 6800GT to come in (which I hope is before HL2) Anyhow, I plan on building my system this weekend (see sig below) and the only thing I am missing is the Video Card! So I was going to use my old Aeolus Ti4200 128MB card in the mean time. Sounds ok right? Well when I do get my 6800GT I should be able to just replace my Ti4200 with it...no? Without having to remove the drivers and reinstall them?? - Sounds like a dumb question, but to my knowledge there should be no issues.....well forseable ones that is. I will be interest to see the quality difference between then two cards being that they will be the only change occurring. __________________

Oct 5, 2004, 03:36 AM	#2
Shinjikun 第3 子供 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nerv HQ Posts: 1,319 Rep Power: 0	To be safe I'd still do a good ol' driver uninstall and reinstall. nVidia's driver architecture is unified of course so there's a chance of not having any problems -- but I wouldn't risk it with new hardware. You want to get that thing to play w/no issues ASAP. __________________ Xfire: [Shinji1225 \ Status] A7N8X-E Deluxe Athlon XP 2500+ (@ 2.2 GHz 11x200 MHz FSB) Corsair TwinX XMS 1GB PC3200 Dual Channel (2-2-3-5) [color=red]ATi [/color][color=white]Radeon 9500 Pro (@ 330\310) \ [/color][color=white]Omega Catalyst Drivers v2.5.90[/color] [color=white]Ultra X-Connect 500W PSU[/color]

Oct 5, 2004, 05:01 AM	Thread Starter #3
Paladine DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	Hey thanks Shinjikun! I appreciate the replie and the advice. I will definitely do just that. __________________

Oct 5, 2004, 06:25 PM	#4
Shinjikun 第3 子供 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nerv HQ Posts: 1,319 Rep Power: 0	No problem Paladine; have fun. __________________ Xfire: [Shinji1225 \ Status] A7N8X-E Deluxe Athlon XP 2500+ (@ 2.2 GHz 11x200 MHz FSB) Corsair TwinX XMS 1GB PC3200 Dual Channel (2-2-3-5) [color=red]ATi [/color][color=white]Radeon 9500 Pro (@ 330\310) \ [/color][color=white]Omega Catalyst Drivers v2.5.90[/color] [color=white]Ultra X-Connect 500W PSU[/color]

Oct 5, 2004, 06:39 PM	#5
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,806 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	i recomend a reformat. but that's just my opinion. i'd reformat even if i installed a new PSU . __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Oct 6, 2004, 02:10 AM	Thread Starter #9
Paladine DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	Yeah it would take me that long as well, but this time I will definitely do a ghosting of the raw system install. At least it is a little faster! Thanks for the advice...now if my card ever gets here. ... I know...I know... patience. But I want it... Sure hope gainward gets those cards into Canada asap! __________________

Oct 6, 2004, 03:39 AM	#10
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	i reformat when i make major changes to hardware...like new memory, new proc or soemthing....it lets you truly witness the new hardware's performance

Oct 6, 2004, 08:34 AM	#11
Wiredzero HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The other side of the screen. Posts: 156 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I only bother when it's NECESSARY. (necessary to get more performance outa the ol' beater that is...) __________________

Oct 7, 2004, 04:04 AM	Thread Starter #17
Paladine DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	You know after read this thread@ Overclockers.com and some related ones, I am starting to wonder if the I should even stick things out with the Nvidia card(s). Starting to wonder if I should have shifted over to ATI (never had problems with either company....YET!) __________________

Oct 7, 2004, 04:49 AM	#18
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,806 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	i've had both ATI and nVidia cards. I'm no fanboy, i just get what's best . __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

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Electroe DH wanderer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 20 min. to Computex Taipei Posts: 137 Rep Power: 0	First, I would recommend formatting and re-installing Windows after a major hardware upgrade. You want the best performance and that'll only happen when no other drivers are hiding inside your computer. I'd agree 2 hrs is lucky. Just thinking about backup up all the stuff is a pain in the arse. Re-installing WindowsXP is a breeze after trying to find everything necessary to backup. __________________ 世界上最遙遠的距離，不是在電話的兩端，而是你不知道你一直在我心裡世界上最遙遠的距離，不是你不知道你一直在我心裡，而是我沒有在你心裡世界上最遙遠的距離，不是我沒有在你心裡，而是你不讓我永遠照顧你世界上最遙遠的距離，不是你不讓我永遠照顧你，而是我沒辦法堅持照顧你的勇氣

Oct 16, 2004, 12:15 AM	Thread Starter #22
Paladine DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	Well I finally got my Gainward 6800GT Golden Sample Card and I am going to try things out with just swapping the cards (Ti4200 for 6800GT) and see what happens with the use of Driver Cleaner and a reinstall of 61.77 drivers. I may actually try the newest release of Omega Drivers! I will let you know how things go! __________________

Oct 16, 2004, 03:23 PM	#23
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,806 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	heheh.....i just reinstalled winXP last night. i woke up early today just to finish installing 3Dmark 01/03/05 and a couple of other things as well. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Oct 16, 2004, 05:07 PM	Thread Starter #24
Paladine DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	Well things went extremely well. No issues, and performance seems to be on par. Now the only thing is that with this card (One big MF) and all the cables already in the case....the case is not keeping things as cool as it did. So tonight I going to open it up once more to make so adjustments. My Gainward seems to be running hotter than I thought it would. 61C on Load (Unreal Tournament or Battlefield Vietnam - 1280 X 1024 Res) for an hour. That seem too high? __________________

Oct 17, 2004, 08:49 AM	Thread Starter #26
Paladine DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	Hey thanks mano! I just reconfigured my case setup and wiring, and with two fans blowing in directly towards the Video card I am able to keep the card at 68C on Load (1 Hour + on a game like BattleField Vietnam (1600x1200) ). So yes I am extremely happy now. Idle temp is 56C! Thanks for the info dude! __________________