-=kupo=-

Hey everyone,

Yeah so I installed my BFG Nvidia GeForce 6800 GT OC and the latest forceware drivers, but so far I've tried playing the following:
WoW with everything max I get 30-40 fps
CS:S I get 30-60 fps
For the Stress test for CS:S I only get 70 fps average.

Shouldn't I be getting higher frames? Any help is appreciated.

Specs:
Pentium 4 2.4 Ghz processor
1 Gb of Corsair PC3200 RAM
80 GB Maxtor HD 7200 RPMS
420 W PSU
BFG Nvidia GeForce 6800 GT OC

MiDKnYtE

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/articles/Half%20life%202/

Doesn't seem like it's that far off, since you have a 2.4G cpu.

Prod1702

yea the game is cpu limited right now for you. you need a new cpu say a AMD64 would fix it all.

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The_Neon_Cowboy

I still don't comprehend why people say that with a stock AMD 2500+ (1.83GHz)
and a 9600xt I was pulling 86FPS in the stress bench.....

upping my CPU 400mhz and my FSB 66 mhz to 3200+ (2.20GHz)
= verry little gain in CS game FPS, but my system was noteably faster

People keep try to protect the cards It's not that the game is CPU limited, it's that the cards are system/CPU limited....meaning how good of system you plug it into has a massive effect on how well it runs... and this seem much more aparent on nvidia cards..

But getting an AMD say should boost your FPS right off the bat especally an AMD64

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Stop It

Simple, because the stress test uses a lot of pixel shading, and as you know, ATI cards are damn good at it, eg, my 9800 was faster than my 6800 at pixel shading tests in 3dmark etc, and done pretty well at the CS:s stress test, yet in game my 6800 (MSI nx6800 NU) destroys it.

Oh and 30-60 fps for a GT is suprisingly low, even my system does better than that, even the lovely new prod give 60+ fps constant with 1024 x 768 4xAA 8xAF (Im a gfx hoe :P), and my system is if anything worse than yours...

Athlon Xp 2600+ (barton)
768MB Generic PC2700 Ram
MSI NX-6800NU 128MB
XP Pro SP1

Oh, one last thing, the 66.** drivers are, um, pants at HL2 and cs:s, if you use them, dont :P

Oh, and reading PCW magazine (UK pc rag), they suggest that the X800 series is actually quite cpu limited, and the 6800 series less so, based on the reviews they gave the cards a while back.

The_Neon_Cowboy

Still goes to total system power haveing a large effect on how well these new cards run. As for GPU's being more CPU depenant i'm not sure but everytime I see someone with a 6800 complaing about FPS i allways see them blame it on the CPU and saying the games hevily cpu dependant. Comes up every time, even when some one complained (turn out it was a a a 3.4 GHz P4 Extreme ) it's on the steam forums some were .

But it's well know a fact nvidia card uses alot more CPU to render video (as in movies etc) about 2x that of ATI and also use twice the power. But games are different and that I don't know for sure. Same with any new cards put new card in an old system it won't perform as well as it could.. why the the systems holding it back to a a point ... But I do know some about about nvidia drivers and optuimzations drawing a little more of your system power to get you higher fps might have somthing to do with it, then again maybe not.

But i'm not here to argue ..... This guys better off with a faster system to match his faster card it's as simple as that...

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Stop It

Dont worry i'm not arguing, just quoting what I've seen regarding the current gen of gfx cards, oh, on that note the latest PCW says that ATI will in future be looking to use more cpu/system resources if theres is an imbalance of load towards the gfx card, or vice versa .(Called - straightfordwardly enough - load balancing).

But anyway, yes you are of course right, having a slow system does bottleneck new gfx cards, and the fact that I can shove AA and AF of nearly all of my games with little to no fps drop proves that.

And finally yes, I hate people saying "omfg my fps sucks" even when they have a decent system, (And if there are more nvidia users saying this, its purely down to the fact that nvidia still has most market share especially in OEM parts (IE new pcs), whereas ATI is more popular among power users (Here in the UK at least) because of a poorly kept system rather than a gfx card problem, I can safely say that a well kept 6800 based system does the job just as well as a well kept x800 system, its just some people think that PC's can withstand 24/7 punishment without a jot of upkeep, then problems happen, and its immediatly the pcs fault.

Zulan

Try to clean out the drivers of your old card, by uninstalling it, and using for instance drivercleaner ( http://www.drivercleaner.net ), then reinstalling with the newest drivers, or you could do a format and install your OS fresh, so that all the driver problems are gone.

I say this because i have a somewhat similar system to yours ( see sig ), and i have a FX with a few registry tweaks to run HL2 and CSS in DirectX 9 mode, and i score around 83 FPS in the source stress test.

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System 1:

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (socket 939) | DVD-RW: Sony DVD RW DW-U18A | Motherboard: MSI K8N Neo2-54G | GFX: nVidia Geforce 6600 GT | Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 1100DF | RAM: 1 GB Kingston PC 3200 | Sound: Soundblaster X-Fi | Main HDD: 2 * Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB Serial ATA 10000RPM @ RAID 0 | Storage HDD: Maxtor DiamondMAX Plus 9 120 GB 8 MB Cache | DVD: Lite-On 16* DVD | OS: Windows XP SP2 | PSU: Sweex 650W PSU

System 2:

CPU: AMD Sempron 3000+ | Motherboard: MSI K7N2 Delta2-FSR | GFX: nVidia Geforce 6200 256 MB | Monitor: Hercules Prophetview 920 PRO | RAM: 1 GB Kingston PC 3200 | Sound: Nvidia Soundstorm | Main HDD: Maxtor DiamondMAX Plus 9 80 GB 8 MB Cache | CD-ROM: NEC 52* CD | OS: FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE | PSU: A-Open 300W PSU

Laptop:

CPU: AMD Mobile Sempron 3100+ | GFX: SiS M760GX 128 MB | Monitor: 15" XGA TFT LCD | RAM: 1 GB Kingston PC 3200 | Sound: Realtek AC '97 audio | HDD: 40 GB | DVD-RW: Slimtype DVDRW SOSW-833S | OS: Windows XP PRO SP2

PoopyTheJ

Yeah, reinstall your drivers I'd use the 7120's actually make sure you use drivercleaner to clean out the old drivers, read the readme if you don't know how to use it, and check your system for spyware/adware. You should get better fps than that I'd expect...

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PoopyTheJ

What resolution does the stress test run at? or is it the settings you use in game? Cause I get 110.8fps on my rig....

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-=kupo=-

Well, I have the latest drivers and everything, and the stress test runs at what your settings are I believe...

Of course a new problem arises for lucky me ....

I was playing World of Warcraft yesterday and suddenly my computer locked up, so I thought, no big deal. The computer then restarted itself and my screen was extremely distorted, weird colors flashing, what not. Now I turn on the computer and the same thing happens only now I get a "Frequency Over Range" message and the computer restarts itself again. Every since I've gotten this new graphics card my computer definately has wanted to kill itself.

I have a 550 W Enermax PSU on it's way via Fedex, but I'm not sure if this is a power problem, does anyone know what else could be wrong?

PoopyTheJ

Refresh rate is set out of range for your monitor, try restarting in Safe mode or last known good configuration setting..... Actually sounds like a nice fresh install of windows XP would clear up your problems and give you the performance you're looking for, barring that though, uninstall video drivers run driver cleaner, clean up any drivers from your last vid card as well, look for spyware and install newest drivers, I personally like the 71.20's.

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Millions Knives

I had posted something a couple of weeks back about noticing the same performance in HL2 and CS:S. I have the same exact card and am using the 7120's, and still not much improvement.

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Don't think I've posted here before, but I spotted this thread while looking for any comments on the new 67.03 beta drivers. I just downloaded them and thought I'd give the CS-S stress test a whirl.

Here's my rig and the results:



Asus A7N8X-X MoBo running the nForce2 chipset,

AMD Barton 2500+ set to 2100Ghz ie,"Athlon 3000+" (stock cooler, or I'd go higher, LOL!)

1.25 gig of generic PC3200 ram (6,3,3,2.5T timings)

Geforce 6800GT no overclock

67.03 drivers set to "high quality"

Everything in game maxed, 4*FSAA, 8*AF 1024*768, no v-sync

All usual services running, as well as virus protection and Zone Alarm........

and get this, my wife thumping the keyboard on another computer on our LAN, using mine as an internet gateway to a forum called, of all things, "Not Good Enough.Com"



I got 106.4 fps average!!!!!!!!!!

So I's say Kupo needs to look at a clean install of Windoze or something, 'cos those framerates are way too slow even on a 2.4 P4.

hgh3

I would agree with The Neon Cowboy, it isn't as much the cpu( even though graphics cards have passed cpus in raw throughput). My specs look good, but in reality my fps in HL2 and L2 are low compared to many in this forum- I beleive a matter of driver versions and software tweaks. One thing I tried that worked(still a little surprised) was using Rivatuner to turn on the other 4 pipelines on my 6800...a little faster, but a lot smoother!

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