TI 4200 new driver problem

Koolaid · Feb 6, 2005, 08:39 PM

I posted this over int he nvidia video card area before I realized this might be a better place to post... so I will repost my problem here:

Hello,

I hope that someone out there can help. Here is my story:

Things were working fine and I had no problems at all, I could play Theif 3 and Everquest 2 perfectly. Then I wanted to install an older game I never got around to playing since I had such a great time with Thief 3- I installed Thief 2.

Upon runing Thief 2 for the first time, I got an error message stating that my video card driver did not properly report free video memory (or something very close to that) and that I should look for an updated driver.

So I went to the Nvidia website and downloaded the drivers which are now showing to be:
6.14.10.6693

After installing these drivers, whenever ANY game goes to load my computer sends a strange noise through the speakers- shuts down and reboots.

After trying all my games, once when the computer rebooted the ' send error report to microsoft ' window popped up. I went ahead and sent the report and it stated some problem with the nvidia drivers but that there was no current information about the problem.

I thought that maybe my Via drivers were too old so I went to via arena and downloaded the latest 4n1 drivers. This did not help.

Upon running DxDiag I get the following error when testing Direct 3d (basically the first test fails I do not see the spinning cube)

Direct3D 7 test results: Failure at step 32 (User verification of Direct3D rendering): HRESULT = 0x00000000 (error code)

The other tests work fine I see the spinning cube on test 8 and 9.

I tried to roll back the driver but this did not work the samed driver version showed up. I tried to use the system restore and go back to an earlier day but that did not work either. Please help me as now I cannot play any games at all on my system.

Epox 8k3a+
768 Ram
Windows XP home
PNY TI 4200 64 meg video

Please help soon if you can please.

** I have more new information:

Upon trying to play Theif 3 again, I get this blue screen of death .. the information below appears to be the most important.

A problem has occured and windows has shut down to prevent any damage to your computer. The problem appears to be caused by:

nv4_disp.dll

Page_fault_In_Nonpaged_Area

STOP: 0x00000050 (OxE3BEBFCO, OxOOOOOOO1, OxBFB413B5, OxOOOOOOO1)
nv4_disp.dll - Address BFB413B5
Base At BF9D3OOO, Datestamp 4182eb4e

That all looks pretty cryptic to me. Hope you all can help still.

Thanks

EvaUnitXIV · Feb 7, 2005, 02:56 AM

simple that card seems to be dying

Koolaid · Feb 7, 2005, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvaUnitXIV

simple that card seems to be dying

I hope I can get a better response than this.

Theres nothing wrong with the video card. It was fine before I installed the new drivers.

davidnsibs · Feb 7, 2005, 06:59 PM

when you tried to rollback drivers did you use driver cleaner? maybe try that, boot to safe mode and uninstall the driver and try the old ones again, assuming you have them, if not how about trying omegas drivers http://www.omegadrivers.net/nvidia/win2k_xp.php oh and another thing, maybe somewhere something got corrupted, try reinstalling directx 9.0c mayeb that'll help. if none of this works suppose a reinstall of windows or a reformat may help but a reformat is a pain and im sure youd prefer to try other things first

PoopyTheJ · Feb 7, 2005, 08:42 PM

Uninstall video drivers, run DC, install DX9.0C, install video drivers, try the omega's or like the vanilla 6693's for that card.....

EvaUnitXIV · Feb 8, 2005, 01:20 AM

then it's the drivers go back to the newest ones that work

PoopyTheJ · Feb 8, 2005, 03:47 AM

Or try the newest performance release of the DHzer0point drivers, you'll like em

well I hope you will anyways...

mike2h · Feb 8, 2005, 05:39 AM

do all the uninstall, dcpro stuff then use the zeropoint perf vers. they work great with my wifes comp-g4 4400.

Koolaid · Feb 8, 2005, 06:46 AM

Hey all that spent the time to read my post and respond, Thank you.

I did use the driver clean pro program. I then found a previous version of Nvidia drivers on their website 61.77 to be exact.

The problem is solved.

But .. now I am enthralled by the other drivers you suggested. I do not want to sound too stupid. But how does that work exactly. Why would someone want to create drivers for a video card? I mean ... what do they do better? Or worse? I really do not want to offend anyone who spent a lot of time re-doing someone elses code, but I just do not understand what the difference would be. Then don't I have to worry about whether or not there is some sneaky virus bug or keylogger imbedded in them? (yes I know I'm showing a bit of paranoia here) Does someone simply take an old version of the Nvidia driver and just hack it up to do ..... what exactly?

I am all for trying new things as long as they work

. I am a lil p'oed at Nvidia for having zero contact support for thier obvious crappy drivers.

This all started because I wanted to try Theif 2. And after 3 days of not being able to play any game at all ....whew was I going through withdraw.

mike2h · Feb 8, 2005, 08:15 AM

nvidia & ati have to create drivers that are broadly compatible with everything while spending as little $$ as possible. also their beta teasters cannot compete with the huge user base in the real world.
so, lucky for us there are a few skilled people that take these 'basic' releases & fine tune them based upon user experience & not being hog tied by corporate flunkies. so you end up with drivers that can produce any or all of the following - increased iq, overall increased perf, greater stability, increased perf &/or iq in specific games, & bug fixes.
of course 'mod' drivers are not always better & there is always some risk involved. but as long as you do your due diligence you can reduce these risk factors drastically.

sc3000 · Feb 12, 2005, 03:41 AM

yes
as omega said
"The purpose of the Omega Drivers is to provide gamers with an alternate set of drivers, ones that have more options and features than the original sets. The drivers contain optimizations, extra features (like OC capabilities), more resolutions and internal tweaks that can give them the edge in a gaming environment over the normal drivers, which are often tailored for synthetic benchmarks. All Omega driver sets are tested (unless noted) by myself in my own PC or in an alternate PC (in the case of the Nvidia drivers) to ensure maximum compatibility and reliability. "
These omega drivers work great for my ATI card

Feb 6, 2005, 08:39 PM	#1
Koolaid DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 37 Rep Power: 0	TI 4200 new driver problem I posted this over int he nvidia video card area before I realized this might be a better place to post... so I will repost my problem here: Hello, I hope that someone out there can help. Here is my story: Things were working fine and I had no problems at all, I could play Theif 3 and Everquest 2 perfectly. Then I wanted to install an older game I never got around to playing since I had such a great time with Thief 3- I installed Thief 2. Upon runing Thief 2 for the first time, I got an error message stating that my video card driver did not properly report free video memory (or something very close to that) and that I should look for an updated driver. So I went to the Nvidia website and downloaded the drivers which are now showing to be: 6.14.10.6693 After installing these drivers, whenever ANY game goes to load my computer sends a strange noise through the speakers- shuts down and reboots. After trying all my games, once when the computer rebooted the ' send error report to microsoft ' window popped up. I went ahead and sent the report and it stated some problem with the nvidia drivers but that there was no current information about the problem. I thought that maybe my Via drivers were too old so I went to via arena and downloaded the latest 4n1 drivers. This did not help. Upon running DxDiag I get the following error when testing Direct 3d (basically the first test fails I do not see the spinning cube) Direct3D 7 test results: Failure at step 32 (User verification of Direct3D rendering): HRESULT = 0x00000000 (error code) The other tests work fine I see the spinning cube on test 8 and 9. I tried to roll back the driver but this did not work the samed driver version showed up. I tried to use the system restore and go back to an earlier day but that did not work either. Please help me as now I cannot play any games at all on my system. Epox 8k3a+ 768 Ram Windows XP home PNY TI 4200 64 meg video Please help soon if you can please. ** I have more new information: Upon trying to play Theif 3 again, I get this blue screen of death .. the information below appears to be the most important. A problem has occured and windows has shut down to prevent any damage to your computer. The problem appears to be caused by: nv4_disp.dll Page_fault_In_Nonpaged_Area STOP: 0x00000050 (OxE3BEBFCO, OxOOOOOOO1, OxBFB413B5, OxOOOOOOO1) nv4_disp.dll - Address BFB413B5 Base At BF9D3OOO, Datestamp 4182eb4e That all looks pretty cryptic to me. Hope you all can help still. Thanks Last edited by Koolaid; Feb 6, 2005 at 09:35 PM.

Feb 7, 2005, 02:56 AM	#2
EvaUnitXIV DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 229 Rep Power: 0	simple that card seems to be dying __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Abit KV8 Buffalo 2x512mb PC3200 ram 40GB Maxtor 7200rpm HD (Boot) 2x250GB WD SE 8mb Cache 7200rpm HD (Filedump) Benq 1620 Pro Liteon 1635s x800GTO @ x800XL SB Audigy Gamer WinXp Pro /w Sp2

Feb 7, 2005, 06:59 PM	#4
davidnsibs 9500pro Forever Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bath, UK Posts: 273 Rep Power: 0	when you tried to rollback drivers did you use driver cleaner? maybe try that, boot to safe mode and uninstall the driver and try the old ones again, assuming you have them, if not how about trying omegas drivers http://www.omegadrivers.net/nvidia/win2k_xp.php oh and another thing, maybe somewhere something got corrupted, try reinstalling directx 9.0c mayeb that'll help. if none of this works suppose a reinstall of windows or a reformat may help but a reformat is a pain and im sure youd prefer to try other things first __________________ Goodbye 9500pro, you've been a faithful servant through Half life, Deus Ex, Unreal 2, Max Payne 1+2, Nolf 1+2, CoD, Far Cry, Civ IV, F.E.A.R and many more

Feb 7, 2005, 08:42 PM	#5
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 64	Uninstall video drivers, run DC, install DX9.0C, install video drivers, try the omega's or like the vanilla 6693's for that card..... __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Feb 8, 2005, 01:20 AM	#6
EvaUnitXIV DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 229 Rep Power: 0	then it's the drivers go back to the newest ones that work __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Abit KV8 Buffalo 2x512mb PC3200 ram 40GB Maxtor 7200rpm HD (Boot) 2x250GB WD SE 8mb Cache 7200rpm HD (Filedump) Benq 1620 Pro Liteon 1635s x800GTO @ x800XL SB Audigy Gamer WinXp Pro /w Sp2

Feb 8, 2005, 03:47 AM	#7
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 64	Or try the newest performance release of the DHzer0point drivers, you'll like em well I hope you will anyways... __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Feb 8, 2005, 05:39 AM	#8
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	do all the uninstall, dcpro stuff then use the zeropoint perf vers. they work great with my wifes comp-g4 4400. __________________

Feb 8, 2005, 06:46 AM	Thread Starter #9
Koolaid DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 37 Rep Power: 0	Thanks All Hey all that spent the time to read my post and respond, Thank you. I did use the driver clean pro program. I then found a previous version of Nvidia drivers on their website 61.77 to be exact. The problem is solved. But .. now I am enthralled by the other drivers you suggested. I do not want to sound too stupid. But how does that work exactly. Why would someone want to create drivers for a video card? I mean ... what do they do better? Or worse? I really do not want to offend anyone who spent a lot of time re-doing someone elses code, but I just do not understand what the difference would be. Then don't I have to worry about whether or not there is some sneaky virus bug or keylogger imbedded in them? (yes I know I'm showing a bit of paranoia here) Does someone simply take an old version of the Nvidia driver and just hack it up to do ..... what exactly? I am all for trying new things as long as they work . I am a lil p'oed at Nvidia for having zero contact support for thier obvious crappy drivers. This all started because I wanted to try Theif 2. And after 3 days of not being able to play any game at all ....whew was I going through withdraw.

Feb 8, 2005, 08:15 AM	#10
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	nvidia & ati have to create drivers that are broadly compatible with everything while spending as little $$ as possible. also their beta teasters cannot compete with the huge user base in the real world. so, lucky for us there are a few skilled people that take these 'basic' releases & fine tune them based upon user experience & not being hog tied by corporate flunkies. so you end up with drivers that can produce any or all of the following - increased iq, overall increased perf, greater stability, increased perf &/or iq in specific games, & bug fixes. of course 'mod' drivers are not always better & there is always some risk involved. but as long as you do your due diligence you can reduce these risk factors drastically. __________________

Feb 12, 2005, 03:41 AM	#11
sc3000 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New York Posts: 225 Rep Power: 0	yes as omega said "The purpose of the Omega Drivers is to provide gamers with an alternate set of drivers, ones that have more options and features than the original sets. The drivers contain optimizations, extra features (like OC capabilities), more resolutions and internal tweaks that can give them the edge in a gaming environment over the normal drivers, which are often tailored for synthetic benchmarks. All Omega driver sets are tested (unless noted) by myself in my own PC or in an alternate PC (in the case of the Nvidia drivers) to ensure maximum compatibility and reliability. " These omega drivers work great for my ATI card