Cat 6.3 out

Dark Lord · Mar 9, 2006, 07:40 PM

for some reason, 6.3 and direct X did not get along, at all. reinstalled DX, nothing. reinstalled 6.3, nothing.

reinstalled DX again, and then 6.1's. everything is working fine again.

leethaxor4u · Mar 9, 2006, 08:41 PM

Hi Terry,

I have an issue with the Catalyst drivers and crossifre. When you change the settings on the mastercard while in crossfire mode, it doesnt change the settings on the slave card.

You have to goto Display Properties/settings highlight the #3 monitor (after diabling crossfire) select is as your primary display, then change the settings or it will retain driver default settings for the slave card in the 3d tab.

Also, sometimes it allows you to use the overclock utility for the secondary card, sometimes it wont. Even when it does it resets both clocks back to default when you return back to the primary display.

When I take the time to do this my benchmark scores improve greatly.

Just a suggestion, but perhaps we could use the graphics adapter pull down to access both cards settings and allow us to overclock both cards.

Thanks so much for posting here.

X1800XTTOP · Mar 9, 2006, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CATALYST maker

Nobody was bitching were they? if they were i missed it LOL
sorry guys.

so whats everyones biggest problem these days with games and stuff? i dont think there is anything major outstanding at this point (but of course i could be wrong)

Im really sorry, but ive been really lazy and havent read through all the pages here.

But yes, there is something big that needs to be fixed. I tried to mail ATi.com earlier today - but the site is so slow that it was impossible (IE would say "connection lost" etc.).

Just head over to the official FEAR forums and youll see what im talking about. Many ATi users are experiencing huge stuttering with ATi cards. I am too, but now its not as bad as it was without me tweaking my PC.

Think like this: i just get a new computer, with the best GPU out there (januari 03), a X1800XT TOP. I install fear, max everything (obviously thats what you expect from the highest end card), and launch a "new game". To my big suprise, i cannot take 2 steps wihtout the game acting mad. It was IMPOSSIBLE to move/play.

Anyways, i would love for you guys to do some testing about this. E.g. a guy had a 7800GT (game was playing super). He upgraded to a X1800XT 512mb, while his fps was alot better - the game now became unplayable. Just for testing, he swapped cards and woho - the game worked perfect on the 7800GT. He mailed the game support - they answered that the X1800XT was not supported lol. So talking with them is useless - ATi, help us.

Also, a few have played the same time as they "log" info with ATT i believe. The problem seems to be that the "free memory" is "0" very, very often. Meaning 512mb isnt enough on ati cards?! WHile 256 is on nvidia cards!? = there is something wrong with game or aticards/drivers.

PLEASE check this out.

Thanks,
Danny.

BWX · Mar 9, 2006, 11:14 PM

amen

*CATALYST maker* · Mar 9, 2006, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X1800XTTOP

Im really sorry, but ive been really lazy and havent read through all the pages here.

But yes, there is something big that needs to be fixed. I tried to mail ATi.com earlier today - but the site is so slow that it was impossible (IE would say "connection lost" etc.).

Just head over to the official FEAR forums and youll see what im talking about. Many ATi users are experiencing huge stuttering with ATi cards. I am too, but now its not as bad as it was without me tweaking my PC.

Think like this: i just get a new computer, with the best GPU out there (januari 03), a X1800XT TOP. I install fear, max everything (obviously thats what you expect from the highest end card), and launch a "new game". To my big suprise, i cannot take 2 steps wihtout the game acting mad. It was IMPOSSIBLE to move/play.

Anyways, i would love for you guys to do some testing about this. E.g. a guy had a 7800GT (game was playing super). He upgraded to a X1800XT 512mb, while his fps was alot better - the game now became unplayable. Just for testing, he swapped cards and woho - the game worked perfect on the 7800GT. He mailed the game support - they answered that the X1800XT was not supported lol. So talking with them is useless - ATi, help us.

Also, a few have played the same time as they "log" info with ATT i believe. The problem seems to be that the "free memory" is "0" very, very often. Meaning 512mb isnt enough on ati cards?! WHile 256 is on nvidia cards!? = there is something wrong with game or aticards/drivers.

PLEASE check this out.

Thanks,
Danny.

ok i will get it checked out. wasnt aware of this. but i do recommend you try again to submit this info to catalyst crew feedback form on ati.com

Zardon · Mar 9, 2006, 11:19 PM

thread cleaned

Ok this is just a general notice to everyone who posts in this forum. firstly this is a support forum and that is what we aim to do, support users.

How do we define a support request?

Something like "hey guys im having a problem with my graphics card, my frame rates jerk with xxx title and ive tried a clean install, new drivers, driver cleaner and man I still cant get it to run the way I want it, anyone help me or give me advice?"

The following is not a support request "Hey guys, these drivers suck ass, and I cant be bothered detailing my problem so ill just come here and flame ATI reps and anything else I feel like, so kiss my ass".

What is our solution?

you get banned.

Please read this post carefully because this is the number one reason these forums are well known to be the friendliest and most useful forums on the net, we clean out the TRASH really quick.

ATI reps arent here to take abuse, they are here to help during their working day if they get time, and people will respect this. Its not open for debate.

Please continue, thanks.

leethaxor4u · Mar 9, 2006, 11:51 PM

sigh, why do I feel like everyone I have spoken with runs away from the dual ATI questions :O

Zardon · Mar 10, 2006, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leethaxor4u

sigh, why do I feel like everyone I have spoken with runs away from the dual ATI questions :O

What questions did you ask?

leethaxor4u · Mar 10, 2006, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leethaxor4u

I have an issue with the Catalyst drivers and crossifre. When you change the settings on the mastercard while in crossfire mode, it doesnt change the settings on the slave card.

You have to goto Display Properties/settings highlight the #3 monitor (after diabling crossfire) select is as your primary display, then change the settings or it will retain driver default settings for the slave card in the 3d tab.

Also, sometimes it allows you to use the overclock utility for the secondary card, sometimes it wont. Even when it does it resets both clocks back to default when you return back to the primary display.

Are these accurate statments, or is my computer set-up incorrectly?

leethaxor4u · Mar 10, 2006, 12:16 AM

Also, I know very little about the how too of the crossfire system.. I dont know what enables which modes like AFR ect.

I would love to see a guide on how it works and if mine is running up to par, I would pay for it if needed.

***Veridian3*** · Mar 10, 2006, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leethaxor4u

Are these accurate statments, or is my computer set-up incorrectly?

I'm a little unsure about what you mean by the settings are not picked up by the slave card. If you have crossfire enabled, in 3d the 2 cards do the same thing. For example if you ask for AA both cards do AA (although one at a slightly different angle to improve quality - depending on the type you choose).

Let me know exactly whay you were selecting and what you expected to happen and i'll let you know if its working as designed.

Poppi · Mar 10, 2006, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

...Please read this post carefully because this is the number one reason these forums are well known to be the friendliest and most useful forums on the net, we clean out the TRASH really quick.

ATI reps arent here to take abuse, they are here to help during their working day if they get time, and people will respect this. Its not open for debate.

Please continue, thanks.

Amen to this brother. DH is indeed a top notch hardware site. Period.

leethaxor4u · Mar 10, 2006, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veridian3

I'm a little unsure about what you mean by the settings are not picked up by the slave card. If you have crossfire enabled, in 3d the 2 cards do the same thing. For example if you ask for AA both cards do AA (although one at a slightly different angle to improve quality - depending on the type you choose).

Let me know exactly whay you were selecting and what you expected to happen and i'll let you know if its working as designed.

Ok, Well let me start by telling you my system specs

A8R32-MVP
AMD 64 x2 +4800
Corsair DDR 400 PC 3200 (2 GIGS)
X1900 Mastercard/X1900xtx slave
Soundblaster x-fi Platnuim
Dx 9.0c
6.3 CCC drivers

First, Where do I goto overclock the slave card?

The primary card is not changing the secondary cards setting.. If I disable crossfire, then goto Display properties, and select adapter #3 to be my primary display, I CAN get into the 3d tab of the slave card, its settings are always set to driver defaults. I then set them to performance for benchmarking.
Now, If I switch back to #1 display adaptor and reactivate crossfire, my 3dmark score jumps up by 3k over not taking the time to do that. That cant be right.

My 3dmark01 score is 35k (if I take the time to follow the above steps)
My 3dmark06 score is 8673 (if I take the time to follow the steps above)

If I do not follow the above steps..

3dmark01 31450
3dmark06 6457

Now, are those scores about right for my system? I know on 3dmark01 I scored 29k with a x850xt.. I would have thought my scores would have been higher running duel cards..

Thanks

reggis · Mar 10, 2006, 12:45 AM

Thanks Zardon for that post. My Cat 6.3 experience -- been gaming since I loaded them up last night -- no time for benchies yet. Installation - No problems. CCC - getting better every release as far as features and performance. Games -- Incredible IQ and some good fps gains in CoD2 for me. I have a 7800 gt in my standby box -- I don't use it. Maybe I am lucky, but I have had nothing but good performance, better IQ (imo) and rock solid stability. I have a x1800 xt -- and was playing fear last night at 1680x1050 -- all options maxed - playable frame rates with no stuttering at all. Thanks ATi.

***Veridian3*** · Mar 10, 2006, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leethaxor4u

Ok, Well let me start by telling you my system specs

A8R32-MVP
AMD 64 x2 +4800
Corsair DDR 400 PC 3200 (2 GIGS)
X1900 Mastercard/X1900xtx slave
Soundblaster x-fi Platnuim
Dx 9.0c
6.3 CCC drivers

First, Where do I goto overclock the slave card?

The primary card is not changing the secondary cards setting.. If I disable crossfire, then goto Display properties, and select adapter #3 to be my primary display, I CAN get into the 3d tab of the slave card, its settings are always set to driver defaults. I then set them to performance for benchmarking.
Now, If I switch back to #1 display adaptor and reactivate crossfire, my 3dmark score jumps up by 3k over not taking the time to do that. That cant be right.

My 3dmark01 score is 35k (if I take the time to follow the above steps)
My 3dmark06 score is 8673 (if I take the time to follow the steps above)

If I do not follow the above steps..

3dmark01 31450
3dmark06 6457

Now, are those scores about right for my system? I know on 3dmark01 I scored 29k with a x850xt.. I would have thought my scores would have been higher running duel cards..

Thanks

I'm pretty sure on what the answers are however let me just run a few benches tomorrow with the same config as you to confirm. I'll get back to you...

...btw did you get bios 0311 yet? Check the news thread if you havent.

leethaxor4u · Mar 10, 2006, 12:58 AM

yes, I have it installed.. But mine ran HL2 and Day of Defeat source fine with the old bios.. I was one of the lucky ones

Thanks for your help

OmegaRED · Mar 10, 2006, 01:15 AM

CM do you have any information on lockups in LOTR: Battle for Middle Earth 1 & 2? I've done my homework and the lockups are a huge problem and affect ati and nvidia users equally. I've been able to avoid lockups by lowering the hardware acceleration 2 notches so perhaps there is something ATI could do.

I can't submit an error report cause nothing is generated the comp just locks up.

Since the game is over a year old are you aware of this issue?

Kiwegapa · Mar 10, 2006, 01:41 AM

Catalyst Maker,

I've been having issues with the ATI drivers and the 3D rendering program DAZ Studio ever since Catalyst 5.12. On any ATI card (I tested X800 XT, 9600 SE, and X1900 XTX) The program sees no support for hardware anti-aliasing. On the X1900 XTX, the program also sees no support for 4096x4096 size textures, which it supports on Nvidia hardware.

With Catalyst versions prior to 5.12 (5.11 at least confirmed) hardware anti-aliasing was supported on the same version of DAZ Studio. Catalyst 6.1 and 6.2 do NOT work, and I will test 6.3 tonight or tomorrow.

I've posted here and on the DAZ message board, but I've been told ATI isn't working with DAZ to get the program working well. I've also been told to remove the CCC, but I'd rather not do so, nor am I sure it would help.

DAZ can be found at http://www.daz3d.com

I'd really like to see my ATI card working to its full potential in this program.

Necrosis · Mar 10, 2006, 01:55 AM

Okay, so if you download the drivers you have the Avivo Converter? If that is true for some reason I don't have it.

reggis · Mar 10, 2006, 02:03 AM

Avivo is a seperate download on the driver page. If you downloaded and installed, go to programs --- CCC -- advanced -- CCC-Basic -- it will be the second item on the step by step assistance.

Necrosis · Mar 10, 2006, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reggis

Avivo is a seperate download on the driver page. If you downloaded and installed, go to programs --- CCC -- advanced -- CCC-Basic -- it will be the second item on the step by step assistance.

I figured out why I don't have it. It's not available for XP x64. Will the 32 bit version work?

gunnerhkjp · Mar 10, 2006, 04:40 AM

Is anybody else getting massive overscan (that can't be turned off) in the s-video out during theater mode?

Also, screen adjustment seems to be off during theater mode. I have a slightly vertically streched video image on my NTSC TV which can't be adjusted.

So much for video enhancement when they can't do s-video out properly.

leethaxor4u · Mar 10, 2006, 04:53 AM

I have display couruption in day of defeat (not source)...its fine so long as I leave the AA to application controlled, soon as I set it to anything else, the letters are jarbled and it appears like a grid on the start up screen. 6.3 drivers..

reinstalling steam....will post back

Ok, I guess the old hl1 engine likes opengl alot better than d3d, I set it to opengl and the text issue is gone..

does crossfire support opengl?

Also HL2 has settings in the options page for graphics, how do I overide them so i can use the higher settings on the cards?

X1800XTTOP · Mar 10, 2006, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CATALYST maker

ok i will get it checked out. wasnt aware of this. but i do recommend you try again to submit this info to catalyst crew feedback form on ati.com

Thank you very much. I have submit this to the feedback with details on my system and such.

I really hope you find the issue for this. I can also tell you that setting "texture resolution" to minimum help - for a while. It only takes longer for the memory to get full - and then it stutters like it does on maximum.

Other than this - i really like what ATi have done to their drivers. Performance on opengl games is great. Performance in general is great (3dmark05 score: 9600p WITHOUT any overclocking - on a A8R-MVP, AMDX2 4400+ and ASUS X1800XT TOP). Keep up with the excellent work! Always do!

Also, im sorry for my english.

QuickPaw · Mar 10, 2006, 02:25 PM

I hate having to bring bad news but:

The setup:
ATI 1900XTX Official/ Optimal Performance/ Fresh Install

3DMark05:
Cat CCC 6.2 (Official): 10,232
Cat CCC 6.3 (Official): 9,890

A good sized drop...but, maybe with the release of Omega's or DH's baby these numbers will pick up.

Also, I have to say that the image quality looked better on the BFG 7800GT I upgraded from. I'm just asking to keep working on the drivers for these next generation cards. I can't wait to see the results!

***Veridian3*** · Mar 10, 2006, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leethaxor4u

Ok, Well let me start by telling you my system specs

A8R32-MVP
AMD 64 x2 +4800
Corsair DDR 400 PC 3200 (2 GIGS)
X1900 Mastercard/X1900xtx slave
Soundblaster x-fi Platnuim
Dx 9.0c
6.3 CCC drivers

First, Where do I goto overclock the slave card?

The primary card is not changing the secondary cards setting.. If I disable crossfire, then goto Display properties, and select adapter #3 to be my primary display, I CAN get into the 3d tab of the slave card, its settings are always set to driver defaults. I then set them to performance for benchmarking.
Now, If I switch back to #1 display adaptor and reactivate crossfire, my 3dmark score jumps up by 3k over not taking the time to do that. That cant be right.

My 3dmark01 score is 35k (if I take the time to follow the above steps)
My 3dmark06 score is 8673 (if I take the time to follow the steps above)

If I do not follow the above steps..

3dmark01 31450
3dmark06 6457

Now, are those scores about right for my system? I know on 3dmark01 I scored 29k with a x850xt.. I would have thought my scores would have been higher running duel cards..

Thanks

ok...

Q1- Overclocking: Simple answer...you cant overclock the slave.

Q2- 3Dmark: I've tried to recreate your prob (using 3dmark06) and i cant. Everything is working as designed from what i can see.

Q3: 2001 results: This bench is hugely CPU limited...which is holding back your total score and not utilising the full potential of your new cards.

My system was:
A8R32-MVP
AMD 64 FX-60
Corsair DDR 400 PC 3200 (1 GIGS)
X1900 Mastercard/X1900xtx slave
Onboard Sound
Dx 9.0c (feb06)
6.3 CCC drivers
.net 1.1 +patches

06 score incase you want to compare was: 8936 (crossfire mode)

leethaxor4u · Mar 10, 2006, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veridian3

ok...

Q1- Overclocking: Simple answer...you cant overclock the slave.

Q2- 3Dmark: I've tried to recreate your prob (using 3dmark06) and i cant. Everything is working as designed from what i can see.

Q3: 2001 results: This bench is hugely CPU limited...which is holding back your total score and not utilising the full potential of your new cards.

06 score incase you want to compare was: 8936 (crossfire mode)

It seems I am right on with your findings...

Any chance they will enable slave card overclocking?

Do I need to install AMD`S driver for my chipset on this board?

My score was slightly higher with Cat 6.2 (but the benifits of 6.3 are worth the drop to me)

Do I need the hotfix for the dual cores from microsoft?

In standard hl, do you have display corruption using d3d instead of opengl?

When I play hl2 or its mod games, how do I over ride the games videocontrols so I can use the higher aa crossfire provides?

Sorry for all the questions, but I am new to AMD and new to crossfire..You seem the only person willing or who knows enough to help..

If there is a way to finacially support the site, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PAY FOR HELP.

Thanks again

***Veridian3*** · Mar 10, 2006, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leethaxor4u

It seems I am right on with your findings...

Any chance they will enable slave card overclocking?

Do I need to install AMD`S driver for my chipset on this board?

My score was slightly higher with Cat 6.2 (but the benifits of 6.3 are worth the drop to me)

Do I need the hotfix for the dual cores from microsoft?

In standard hl, do you have display corruption using d3d instead of opengl?

When I play hl2 or its mod games, how do I over ride the games videocontrols so I can use the higher aa crossfire provides?

Sorry for all the questions, but I am new to AMD and new to crossfire..You seem the only person willing or who knows enough to help..

If there is a way to finacially support the site, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PAY FOR HELP.

Thanks again

I've got some stuff to do just now but i'll pm you the answers to your questions later on/as soon as i can. Lets keep this thread about 6.3 only...

Flexkill · Mar 11, 2006, 12:05 AM

OK, I uninstalled all of the .netframework stuff and the CCC. Man that thing was clunky and waaaaaay to much stuff going on in background

...Can somone explain to me why I would want to run CCC instead of the much less bloated ATT?

I mean is there any thing i'm not getting buy using CCC???

Judas · Mar 11, 2006, 12:52 AM

CCC takes roughly 15 seconds to load... apon loading... all tabs are instant... all options are instant... closing is instant.... i see absalutely no difference in preformance or benchmark results with or without the CCC (aside from the CCC having more options)....

is 15 seconds to long to wait?

and 6.2's and 6.3's work flawlessly with only .net 2.0 installed... i've since stopped installing .net 1.1

Mar 9, 2006, 07:40 PM	#61
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	for some reason, 6.3 and direct X did not get along, at all. reinstalled DX, nothing. reinstalled 6.3, nothing. reinstalled DX again, and then 6.1's. everything is working fine again. __________________

Mar 9, 2006, 11:14 PM	#64
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	amen __________________

Mar 10, 2006, 12:45 AM	#74
reggis DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Dakota Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Thanks Zardon for that post. My Cat 6.3 experience -- been gaming since I loaded them up last night -- no time for benchies yet. Installation - No problems. CCC - getting better every release as far as features and performance. Games -- Incredible IQ and some good fps gains in CoD2 for me. I have a 7800 gt in my standby box -- I don't use it. Maybe I am lucky, but I have had nothing but good performance, better IQ (imo) and rock solid stability. I have a x1800 xt -- and was playing fear last night at 1680x1050 -- all options maxed - playable frame rates with no stuttering at all. Thanks ATi. __________________

Mar 10, 2006, 01:15 AM	#77
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,625 Rep Power: 171 System Specs	CM do you have any information on lockups in LOTR: Battle for Middle Earth 1 & 2? I've done my homework and the lockups are a huge problem and affect ati and nvidia users equally. I've been able to avoid lockups by lowering the hardware acceleration 2 notches so perhaps there is something ATI could do. I can't submit an error report cause nothing is generated the comp just locks up. Since the game is over a year old are you aware of this issue? __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Mar 10, 2006, 01:41 AM	#78
Kiwegapa DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	DAZ Studio issues Catalyst Maker, I've been having issues with the ATI drivers and the 3D rendering program DAZ Studio ever since Catalyst 5.12. On any ATI card (I tested X800 XT, 9600 SE, and X1900 XTX) The program sees no support for hardware anti-aliasing. On the X1900 XTX, the program also sees no support for 4096x4096 size textures, which it supports on Nvidia hardware. With Catalyst versions prior to 5.12 (5.11 at least confirmed) hardware anti-aliasing was supported on the same version of DAZ Studio. Catalyst 6.1 and 6.2 do NOT work, and I will test 6.3 tonight or tomorrow. I've posted here and on the DAZ message board, but I've been told ATI isn't working with DAZ to get the program working well. I've also been told to remove the CCC, but I'd rather not do so, nor am I sure it would help. DAZ can be found at http://www.daz3d.com I'd really like to see my ATI card working to its full potential in this program. __________________ CPU: Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 2.4Ghz (240 x 10 = 2400Mhz), 1.45v Mobo: ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe RAM: 2 x 512Mb Corsair XMS3200XLPRO (dual channel enabled) Video: HIS Radeon X1900 XTX (689Mhz core/797Mhz mem) Audio: Creative Audigy 2, Zalman Theatre 6 Headphones HDD: WD Raptor 74Gb (fast!), WD1200JB (loud!) Case: CoolerMaster CMStacker Power: Antec TruePower 480 Monitor: ViewSonic E95 19"

Mar 9, 2006, 08:41 PM	#62
leethaxor4u DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Hi Terry, I have an issue with the Catalyst drivers and crossifre. When you change the settings on the mastercard while in crossfire mode, it doesnt change the settings on the slave card. You have to goto Display Properties/settings highlight the #3 monitor (after diabling crossfire) select is as your primary display, then change the settings or it will retain driver default settings for the slave card in the 3d tab. Also, sometimes it allows you to use the overclock utility for the secondary card, sometimes it wont. Even when it does it resets both clocks back to default when you return back to the primary display. When I take the time to do this my benchmark scores improve greatly. Just a suggestion, but perhaps we could use the graphics adapter pull down to access both cards settings and allow us to overclock both cards. Thanks so much for posting here.

Mar 9, 2006, 11:19 PM	#66
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	thread cleaned Ok this is just a general notice to everyone who posts in this forum. firstly this is a support forum and that is what we aim to do, support users. How do we define a support request? Something like "hey guys im having a problem with my graphics card, my frame rates jerk with xxx title and ive tried a clean install, new drivers, driver cleaner and man I still cant get it to run the way I want it, anyone help me or give me advice?" The following is not a support request "Hey guys, these drivers suck ass, and I cant be bothered detailing my problem so ill just come here and flame ATI reps and anything else I feel like, so kiss my ass". What is our solution? you get banned. Please read this post carefully because this is the number one reason these forums are well known to be the friendliest and most useful forums on the net, we clean out the TRASH really quick. ATI reps arent here to take abuse, they are here to help during their working day if they get time, and people will respect this. Its not open for debate. Please continue, thanks.

Mar 9, 2006, 11:51 PM	#67
leethaxor4u DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	sigh, why do I feel like everyone I have spoken with runs away from the dual ATI questions :O

Mar 10, 2006, 12:16 AM	#70
leethaxor4u DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Also, I know very little about the how too of the crossfire system.. I dont know what enables which modes like AFR ect. I would love to see a guide on how it works and if mine is running up to par, I would pay for it if needed.

Mar 10, 2006, 12:58 AM	#76
leethaxor4u DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	yes, I have it installed.. But mine ran HL2 and Day of Defeat source fine with the old bios.. I was one of the lucky ones Thanks for your help

Mar 10, 2006, 01:55 AM	#79
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	Okay, so if you download the drivers you have the Avivo Converter? If that is true for some reason I don't have it.

Mar 10, 2006, 02:03 AM	#80
reggis DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Dakota Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Avivo is a seperate download on the driver page. If you downloaded and installed, go to programs --- CCC -- advanced -- CCC-Basic -- it will be the second item on the step by step assistance. __________________

Mar 10, 2006, 04:40 AM	#82
gunnerhkjp DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Is anybody else getting massive overscan (that can't be turned off) in the s-video out during theater mode? Also, screen adjustment seems to be off during theater mode. I have a slightly vertically streched video image on my NTSC TV which can't be adjusted. So much for video enhancement when they can't do s-video out properly.

Mar 10, 2006, 04:53 AM	#83
leethaxor4u DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	I have display couruption in day of defeat (not source)...its fine so long as I leave the AA to application controlled, soon as I set it to anything else, the letters are jarbled and it appears like a grid on the start up screen. 6.3 drivers.. reinstalling steam....will post back Ok, I guess the old hl1 engine likes opengl alot better than d3d, I set it to opengl and the text issue is gone.. does crossfire support opengl? Also HL2 has settings in the options page for graphics, how do I overide them so i can use the higher settings on the cards? Last edited by leethaxor4u; Mar 10, 2006 at 05:29 AM.

Mar 10, 2006, 02:25 PM	#85
QuickPaw DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	I hate having to bring bad news but: The setup: ATI 1900XTX Official/ Optimal Performance/ Fresh Install 3DMark05: Cat CCC 6.2 (Official): 10,232 Cat CCC 6.3 (Official): 9,890 A good sized drop...but, maybe with the release of Omega's or DH's baby these numbers will pick up. Also, I have to say that the image quality looked better on the BFG 7800GT I upgraded from. I'm just asking to keep working on the drivers for these next generation cards. I can't wait to see the results!

Mar 11, 2006, 12:05 AM	#89
Flexkill DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nashville, TN. Music City USA Posts: 285 Rep Power: 0	OK, I uninstalled all of the .netframework stuff and the CCC. Man that thing was clunky and waaaaaay to much stuff going on in background...Can somone explain to me why I would want to run CCC instead of the much less bloated ATT? I mean is there any thing i'm not getting buy using CCC??? __________________