3.0 Drivers/ Control panel settings

neoz1 · Jan 31, 2003, 08:01 AM

Just got my 9700 pro had problems installing 7.81 drivers from ATI. It gave me an INFsetup.exe General protection error. I rebooted and drivers loaded fine, well now i'm trying to play my games especially UT2k3 but all I see is crappy graphics. Jagged edges around players and other textures in game......totally awful! Not up to 9700 pro standards I would suppose, anyway i tried to adjust settings in control panel with little success ( smoothvision 2 - anti aliasing etc. ) tried many of settings and none would fix the bad jagged edges.

Can anyone give this n00b some tips??

Thanks all

add- everything else works great besides game play graphics.

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Junk · Jan 31, 2003, 01:43 PM

What screen resolution are you running in? Do the crappy graphics happen in other games? Have you played around the the D3D and OGL Quality/Performance slider?

neoz1 · Jan 31, 2003, 02:41 PM

800x600 res, yes... I tried many configs in the D3d and opengl (none seem to make a slightest difference). The jagged edges are in all my games I play

Junk · Jan 31, 2003, 02:45 PM

Bump your resolution up to 1024x768x32 and you should notice a big difference. Enabling AA and AF doesn't do anything?

neoz1 · Jan 31, 2003, 02:50 PM

Ok, I will try that later today after work. But yeah, the AA and AF seems not to do anything! I tried to slide the D3d to max quality and opengl to performance and switched them etc. Nothing! Weird

thanks

Junk · Jan 31, 2003, 02:54 PM

Try setting them both to Max Quality when you get home, and download the latest drivers for your video card. Have you downloaded DirectX 9?

digitalwanderer · Jan 31, 2003, 02:57 PM

Try setting your D3D & openGL to "high quality" on the slider bar, (one bump to the right from the default), REBOOT, and try it. If you're really using the Cat3.0 set I'd highly recomend trying the Cat3.0a set, it's much better.

neoz1 · Jan 31, 2003, 02:58 PM

ok, yes I have both the latest drivers and DX9.0. I have the ATI version on the Catalyst 3.0 with the Control Panel. I wanted to try to install the Omega Ver, do I need to uninstall the Control panel or the drivers to install this?

Junk · Jan 31, 2003, 03:00 PM

nope..check your other post

neoz1 · Jan 31, 2003, 03:07 PM

Thank you for the help , I will try later and see what happens! Wanderer, what is the Cat 3.0a driver? Is that Omega's? thanks again

Junk · Jan 31, 2003, 03:15 PM

Nope..the 3.0a driver is ATi's absolute latest version of the 3.0, and can be downloaded from ATi's website. Omega's driver is based on the 3.0 set, but I don't know the difference between the Catalyst 3.0 set and the Catalyst 3.0a set..

neoz1 · Jan 31, 2003, 05:10 PM

Oh, I think its something to do with WHQL signature. Yea i just barely installed the latest one from ATi about 3 days ago. So I think I have the latest unless.....they put another update up within the last 48 hours??? But I know the old Cat 3.0 did not have the WHQL signed and the new ones do. Hmm.......

Junk · Jan 31, 2003, 05:46 PM

If you just did it the other day, then they should be the 3.0a set..

neoz1 · Jan 31, 2003, 08:18 PM

ok probably then, What are you guys using or recommend between the 2? i really dont care about benchmarks, i just want some clean 3d graphics. Would omega be best for that?

Junk · Jan 31, 2003, 10:13 PM

Omega'd be your bet for clean graphics.

neoz1 · Feb 2, 2003, 04:01 AM

OK, so here is the update! I was getting those INFsetup.exe general protection errors when I first installed the latest 3.0 Cat drivers from ATI site (after a rebbot everything went to normal). When I went into control panel there was no smartgart tab? Should I have one? Just Today I installed the Omega Driver with no hassle over the ATI drivers, installed very easy but still no Smartgart tab? Where is it, and what am I missing? I still cannot get my graphics to be smooth on two of my games though.

I tried putting my Res higher in games and adjusting AA and AF still no luck

Should I do a clean uninstall and reinstall or maybe just reinstall game/s?
Thanks

Junk · Feb 2, 2003, 04:08 AM

Would you happen to know your AGP Aperture size? Set to either 64 or 128 if you can..

neoz1 · Feb 2, 2003, 04:20 AM

yes its at 64, i also bumped up the volts to 1.8 and uninstalled 8x via agp controller(now when i go to options in ati tab it says "default agp bus"). What is Agp performance do in the bios? I have that enabled also. My Vcore is at 1.77

Junk · Feb 2, 2003, 04:44 AM

Try bumping the Aperture size up to 128, and check this link out for some other helpful BIOS settings. Is your video card sharing any IRQs with anything else? If the card is a Powered by ATi, try downloading drivers from their website. Some cards may be picky.. In order see your SmartGart settings, click Start - Run - and type in smartgart. If you don't get anything up, you may need to enable the ATi Smart service.

Junk · Feb 2, 2003, 04:45 AM

Update all your chipset drivers too (AGP, IDE, etc.)

neoz1 · Feb 2, 2003, 04:52 AM

How do i enable the ati smart service? Nothing came up on the Run/ smartgart, thanks again

Junk · Feb 2, 2003, 05:04 AM

Type "services.msc" (sin quotas) in the run command, and you should see a service called "ATI Smart" towards the top of the list. Mine is set to automatic, so make sure yours is too. I'm not sure you really gain anything with the SmartGart tab though. Most people think it's dumb..

neoz1 · Feb 2, 2003, 09:34 AM

Well that didnt work either! LOL.......Oh well, if it wont improve the graphics on the games who cares. Really dont need it i guess. Thanks though

neoz1 · Feb 6, 2003, 12:15 AM

Well, I still have problems with the jaggies....anyone else have ideas what it might be? I did a clean uninstall/reinstall of Omega drivers, installed perfect. Updated my VIA drivers to Hyperion and Dx9.0.

I set AA and AF then reboot and jaggies still in my games, everything else is stable but the graphics in the game. Dang!

Jan 31, 2003, 08:01 AM	#1
neoz1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	3.0 Drivers/ Control panel settings Just got my 9700 pro had problems installing 7.81 drivers from ATI. It gave me an INFsetup.exe General protection error. I rebooted and drivers loaded fine, well now i'm trying to play my games especially UT2k3 but all I see is crappy graphics. Jagged edges around players and other textures in game......totally awful! Not up to 9700 pro standards I would suppose, anyway i tried to adjust settings in control panel with little success ( smoothvision 2 - anti aliasing etc. ) tried many of settings and none would fix the bad jagged edges. Can anyone give this n00b some tips?? Thanks all add- everything else works great besides game play graphics. Win 98se Amd xp +2100 Asus A7V8x 256 DDR WD 30 GB WD40 GB Artec 32/12/48 Pioneer DVD 16x 5 fans TT volcano 9 Cpu cooler Last edited by neoz1; Jan 31, 2003 at 08:07 AM.

Jan 31, 2003, 01:43 PM	#2
Junk DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 395 Rep Power: 0	What screen resolution are you running in? Do the crappy graphics happen in other games? Have you played around the the D3D and OGL Quality/Performance slider? __________________

Jan 31, 2003, 02:45 PM	#4
Junk DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 395 Rep Power: 0	Bump your resolution up to 1024x768x32 and you should notice a big difference. Enabling AA and AF doesn't do anything? __________________

Jan 31, 2003, 02:54 PM	#6
Junk DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 395 Rep Power: 0	Try setting them both to Max Quality when you get home, and download the latest drivers for your video card. Have you downloaded DirectX 9? __________________

Jan 31, 2003, 02:57 PM	#7
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	Two things. Try setting your D3D & openGL to "high quality" on the slider bar, (one bump to the right from the default), REBOOT, and try it. If you're really using the Cat3.0 set I'd highly recomend trying the Cat3.0a set, it's much better. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Jan 31, 2003, 02:41 PM	Thread Starter #3
neoz1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	800x600 res, yes... I tried many configs in the D3d and opengl (none seem to make a slightest difference). The jagged edges are in all my games I play

Jan 31, 2003, 02:50 PM	Thread Starter #5
neoz1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	Ok, I will try that later today after work. But yeah, the AA and AF seems not to do anything! I tried to slide the D3d to max quality and opengl to performance and switched them etc. Nothing! Weird thanks

Jan 31, 2003, 02:58 PM	Thread Starter #8
neoz1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	ok, yes I have both the latest drivers and DX9.0. I have the ATI version on the Catalyst 3.0 with the Control Panel. I wanted to try to install the Omega Ver, do I need to uninstall the Control panel or the drivers to install this?

Jan 31, 2003, 03:00 PM	#9
Junk DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 395 Rep Power: 0	nope..check your other post __________________

Jan 31, 2003, 03:07 PM	Thread Starter #10
neoz1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	Thank you for the help , I will try later and see what happens! Wanderer, what is the Cat 3.0a driver? Is that Omega's? thanks again

Jan 31, 2003, 03:15 PM	#11
Junk DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 395 Rep Power: 0	Nope..the 3.0a driver is ATi's absolute latest version of the 3.0, and can be downloaded from ATi's website. Omega's driver is based on the 3.0 set, but I don't know the difference between the Catalyst 3.0 set and the Catalyst 3.0a set.. __________________

Jan 31, 2003, 05:10 PM	Thread Starter #12
neoz1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	Oh, I think its something to do with WHQL signature. Yea i just barely installed the latest one from ATi about 3 days ago. So I think I have the latest unless.....they put another update up within the last 48 hours??? But I know the old Cat 3.0 did not have the WHQL signed and the new ones do. Hmm.......

Jan 31, 2003, 05:46 PM	#13
Junk DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 395 Rep Power: 0	If you just did it the other day, then they should be the 3.0a set.. __________________

Jan 31, 2003, 08:18 PM	Thread Starter #14
neoz1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	ok probably then, What are you guys using or recommend between the 2? i really dont care about benchmarks, i just want some clean 3d graphics. Would omega be best for that?

Jan 31, 2003, 10:13 PM	#15
Junk DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 395 Rep Power: 0	Omega'd be your bet for clean graphics. __________________

Feb 2, 2003, 04:01 AM	Thread Starter #16
neoz1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	OK, so here is the update! I was getting those INFsetup.exe general protection errors when I first installed the latest 3.0 Cat drivers from ATI site (after a rebbot everything went to normal). When I went into control panel there was no smartgart tab? Should I have one? Just Today I installed the Omega Driver with no hassle over the ATI drivers, installed very easy but still no Smartgart tab? Where is it, and what am I missing? I still cannot get my graphics to be smooth on two of my games though. I tried putting my Res higher in games and adjusting AA and AF still no luck Should I do a clean uninstall and reinstall or maybe just reinstall game/s? Thanks

Feb 2, 2003, 04:08 AM	#17
Junk DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 395 Rep Power: 0	Would you happen to know your AGP Aperture size? Set to either 64 or 128 if you can.. __________________

Feb 2, 2003, 04:20 AM	Thread Starter #18
neoz1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	yes its at 64, i also bumped up the volts to 1.8 and uninstalled 8x via agp controller(now when i go to options in ati tab it says "default agp bus"). What is Agp performance do in the bios? I have that enabled also. My Vcore is at 1.77

Feb 2, 2003, 04:44 AM	#19
Junk DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 395 Rep Power: 0	Try bumping the Aperture size up to 128, and check this link out for some other helpful BIOS settings. Is your video card sharing any IRQs with anything else? If the card is a Powered by ATi, try downloading drivers from their website. Some cards may be picky.. In order see your SmartGart settings, click Start - Run - and type in smartgart. If you don't get anything up, you may need to enable the ATi Smart service. __________________

Feb 2, 2003, 04:45 AM	#20
Junk DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 395 Rep Power: 0	Update all your chipset drivers too (AGP, IDE, etc.) __________________

Feb 2, 2003, 04:52 AM	Thread Starter #21
neoz1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	How do i enable the ati smart service? Nothing came up on the Run/ smartgart, thanks again

Feb 2, 2003, 05:04 AM	#22
Junk DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 395 Rep Power: 0	Type "services.msc" (sin quotas) in the run command, and you should see a service called "ATI Smart" towards the top of the list. Mine is set to automatic, so make sure yours is too. I'm not sure you really gain anything with the SmartGart tab though. Most people think it's dumb.. __________________

Feb 2, 2003, 09:34 AM	Thread Starter #23
neoz1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	Well that didnt work either! LOL.......Oh well, if it wont improve the graphics on the games who cares. Really dont need it i guess. Thanks though

Feb 6, 2003, 12:15 AM	Thread Starter #24
neoz1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	Well, I still have problems with the jaggies....anyone else have ideas what it might be? I did a clean uninstall/reinstall of Omega drivers, installed perfect. Updated my VIA drivers to Hyperion and Dx9.0. I set AA and AF then reboot and jaggies still in my games, everything else is stable but the graphics in the game. Dang! __________________ Win 98se Amd Xp 2100 512 DDR Pc2700 333mhz Asus A7V8x GbL TT Volcano 9 Artec 32/12/48 Pioneer DvD 16x Radeon 9700 pro (Retail) 70gb WD 450w Power Win Psu