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Old Jun 17, 2006, 05:59 PM   #1
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??? Loading .icm color management profiles?

My AG Neovo F-419 monitor came with a color management profile (LCD_193.icm) which is currently loaded as the default (and only) profile under the normal Windows "Color Management" tab (Display > Settings > Advanced > Color Management).

I recently switched video cards from an NVidia to an ATI Radeon 9550. While the old NVidia had a separate tab to load .icm color profiles, the new Radeon does not seem to have its own additional section - the "Color" tab offers only "gamma/brightness/contrast" sliders. The new card also appears to be disregarding the profile loaded at the aforementioned "Color Management" screen.

I then installed the Omega Drivers, but they also don't have any extra place to load .icm files. (It's possible I might have done something wrong with the Omega Driver installation, because the control panel didn't seem to change, and in the middle of the installation, it asked for two .inf files from the boxed installation CD...)

Without the .icm file, colors on the LCD screen have become very washed out and inaccurate.

ATI support said this when I submitted a ticket:
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There should be no reason that the color profile isn't loading. I would suggest checking with the monitor manufacturer to see if they have any reported issues like this and to see if they have a patch or a workaround for it.
I contacted the monitor manufacturer, but so far they've only suggested reinstalling the driver and checking the "AC adapter connection" (for the video card? huh?). Maybe someone else here knows what to do?

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Old Jun 17, 2006, 06:51 PM   #2
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My AG Neovo F-419 monitor came with a color management profile (LCD_193.icm) which is currently loaded as the default (and only) profile under the normal Windows "Color Management" tab (Display > Settings > Advanced > Color Management).

I recently switched video cards from an NVidia to an ATI Radeon 9550. While the old NVidia had a separate tab to load .icm color profiles, the new Radeon does not seem to have its own additional section - the "Color" tab offers only "gamma/brightness/contrast" sliders. The new card also appears to be disregarding the profile loaded at the aforementioned "Color Management" screen.

I then installed the Omega Drivers, but they also don't have any extra place to load .icm files. (It's possible I might have done something wrong with the Omega Driver installation, because the control panel didn't seem to change, and in the middle of the installation, it asked for two .inf files from the boxed installation CD...)

Without the .icm file, colors on the LCD screen have become very washed out and inaccurate.

ATI support said this when I submitted a ticket:

I contacted the monitor manufacturer, but so far they've only suggested reinstalling the driver and checking the "AC adapter connection" (for the video card? huh?). Maybe someone else here knows what to do?

Thanks!

Greetings and welcome to DriverHeaven!

Most often it is recommended that one re-install the Windows OS after making a switch between video cards from one vendor to another. I've found it works best to simply do a Windows Repair installation.

However, it's quite possible that you can simply REMOVE the instances of monitors found presently in your Device Manager under Monitors. After doing so, reboot and let Windows redetect your monitor/s. Hopefully, it will correct your problem. If not, the Windows Repair installation would be my next step if it were my problem.

Ultimately, if that still doesn't fix the problem, a reformat and fresh installation of Windows would be the last step.

Good luck!
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Well, I just tried deleting and reinstalling the monitor drivers, but that didn't seem to do anything...

I don't know exactly how to tell that it is "fixed", or if it's just that I screwed up a setting somewhere; is the .icm supposed to go anywhere other than that one color management tab? Do I also need to do something with the ATI Tray Tools settings, or the "Color" tab in Windows' Advanced Properties screen? Would they overwrite the settings from the color management tab?

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(bump) I can't seem to do a repair install until I figure out how this slipstreaming thing works; I'm running a "sfc /scannow" now to see if that does anything....

I would be very grateful if someone would explain what happens and what is supposed to be done with the color management file!
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(bump) I can't seem to do a repair install until I figure out how this slipstreaming thing works; I'm running a "sfc /scannow" now to see if that does anything....

I would be very grateful if someone would explain what happens and what is supposed to be done with the color management file!
If your question is simply about the function of this file, here's the lowdown on it:

The .icm file that's installed is intended to create the proper color matching between your monitor and your printed materials.

On your monitor, do you have a settings panel/option where you can adjust the primary colors? You should be able to adjust for true red, true blue, etc.

As for figuring out the slip streaming: I've never bothered with that since I have broadband Internet. I just do a repair and then let Windows Update handle the updating. As long as you have the original Windows CD, and a broadband connection, it's not that big a hassle....at least for me....to just do the repair and then let the updates take care of themselves.

OR, you can download the updates manually, save them to a folder or CD and install them that way.
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Old Jun 20, 2006, 01:13 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #6
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Sorry, I meant, is the "Color management" tab the only place I am supposed to put this file and is there a video card driver setting somewhere I have missed (i.e. did I screw up?), and is there a way I can check that the profile is active and correct?

I also just tried loading this file with Adobe Gamma, and it says it's not a "legal RGB display file"... I know it worked for my NVidia before, though... Is there a utility that can read/display/edit the file and can tell whether it's corrupted?

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I also just tried loading this file with Adobe Gamma, and it says it's not a "legal RGB display file"... I know it worked for my NVidia before, though... Is there a utility that can read/display/edit the file and can tell whether it's corrupted?

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Have had the same problem with Adobe Gamma -> deinstalled.

Try the "Microsoft Color Control Panel Applet", it can:
  • Install and uninstall ICC color profiles
  • Inspect, rename, and compare two different color profiles
  • View a 3D graphics plot of color profile color gamuts
  • Associate color profiles with devices such as printers, monitors, and scanners
  • Apply custom color gamut adjustments to one or more displays “on the fly”
  • Set up display calibration reminders at intervals you specify
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

I'm searching myself for a way to load my ICM (ICC) Profile (made with ColorVision Spyder2) into the Catalyst driver. With the MS tool you can load it for the Desktop and all desktop applications. But there is no way to load it also for overlay video and fullscreen games .... very bad :-(

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Thank you!

I *think* it works - I tried using a profile with a deliberately green cast to it and it looks changed, but changing to my real profile doesn't seem to do anything... However, my real monitor profile has no star next to it that indicates that it can be switched on the fly, so I'll check again on the next restart.

I'm beginning to suspect that, in my case, the color profile itself might be to blame - the monitor manufacturer is pretty shoddy (they have a support team composed of only one person).

Sorry, I still haven't been able to find anything that'd just load directly into the drivers. Oh, well.... Thanks for the help.
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