ATI Radeon X1900 GT Need Help

-Red · Jan 28, 2007, 03:01 PM

Well, I own a Radeon ATI X1900 GT and since the new catatalyst's, my oh so ''great'' (sarcasm) motherboard does not support the newest ones. I don't understand that much about all those technical stuffs but is there any way to run that catalyst anyway? Cause right now, if I do... I get black screen on start up and can't do anything. So right now I got a ATI NVidia Hotfix driver, which works but I get horrible FPS in games with it.

Or are there any other good drivers which WILL work for my motherboard - Gigabyte GA-K8N-SLi
And no, I got no money for another MOBO.

-Red · Jan 28, 2007, 07:52 PM

Great help guys.
I've posted here for help before, and still no one helped out.
Great.

Dyre Straits · Jan 28, 2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by -Red

Great help guys.
I've posted here for help before, and still no one helped out.
Great.

Hi, Red,

Sorry you're feeling neglected. Keep in mind that this is a Sunday and we're all mostly family guys and our efforts are voluntary.

At any rate, why is it your motherboard doesn't support the latest Catalyst drivers? I'm not following your logic on this.

And, just so you know, I have to leave in 5 minutes for work. So, it'll be a few more hours before even I can get back to you.

-Red · Jan 28, 2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

Hi, Red,

Sorry you're feeling neglected. Keep in mind that this is a Sunday and we're all mostly family guys and our efforts are voluntary.

At any rate, why is it your motherboard doesn't support the latest Catalyst drivers? I'm not following your logic on this.

And, just so you know, I have to leave in 5 minutes for work. So, it'll be a few more hours before even I can get back to you.

Yeah I understand that, but I'm sorry as well cause I have been having such problems for over two years... I never had a chance to game normally, without lag, without any problems/crashes/disadvantages etc.

The catalyst drivers (I don't know from which version) do not have support of my motherboard so if I install them, I get a black screen on the boot, or it's something else what causes the black screen. When I install the ATI Nvidia HOTFIX, it works... But it's so old that my FPS is completly horrible...

And if it is something else what is causing the black screen, do you know what? I searched for it forever, about 6 months and I still couldn't find a solution.

Dyre Straits · Jan 29, 2007, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by -Red

Yeah I understand that, but I'm sorry as well cause I have been having such problems for over two years... I never had a chance to game normally, without lag, without any problems/crashes/disadvantages etc.

The catalyst drivers (I don't know from which version) do not have support of my motherboard so if I install them, I get a black screen on the boot, or it's something else what causes the black screen. When I install the ATI Nvidia HOTFIX, it works... But it's so old that my FPS is completly horrible...

And if it is something else what is causing the black screen, do you know what? I searched for it forever, about 6 months and I still couldn't find a solution.

Well, let's start from scratch. What are the specifics of your computer? Everything including which version of Windows, CPU, RAM, the whole works.

Do you have the latest BIOS and drivers for your Motherboard? When you upgraded to the current video card, did you do a fresh Windows Installation? This is almost a necessity with such a difference over previous video cards.

So, once you give us the complete system specs, maybe we can better help you.

-Red · Jan 29, 2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

Well, let's start from scratch. What are the specifics of your computer? Everything including which version of Windows, CPU, RAM, the whole works.

Do you have the latest BIOS and drivers for your Motherboard? When you upgraded to the current video card, did you do a fresh Windows Installation? This is almost a necessity with such a difference over previous video cards.

So, once you give us the complete system specs, maybe we can better help you.

Here's my full dxdiag... lol
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SI3YSVX4
(Just download it)
There you go,

hope you find the info there.

I have the latest BIOS and yes I did a full windows reinstall when I installed the new video card, about 6 times in one day...

Dyre Straits · Jan 29, 2007, 05:57 PM

Hi, Red,

First of all, some observations and comments:

If that "ATI-NVIDIA HOTFIX" is the one I'm familiar with, created and posted previously at NGOHQ, be aware that NVIDIA threatened a lawsuit against NGOHQ for putting it up. Therefore, it's not officially supported by either ATI nor NVIDIA.

Secondly, the motherboard you are using is designed for SLI--which as you likely know already--is an NVIDIA-only configuration and proprietary to NVIDIA.

That said, I've used two different AMD boards recently with an X1900 PRO without problems. However, the first board (N-Force4-A754) was a single card design and was using a nVidia chipset. The X1950 PRO worked great in that board.

The current mobo I'm using is an ASUS A8R-32MVP-Deluxe which is CROSSFIRE ready for ATI cards. The singel X1950 Pro is working great in this board, too.

So, in your case, are you trying to use only one, or is it TWO ATI cards?

If you're using only one, have you tried placing the card in the other slot to see if it works any better there? If you're using two cards, can you try it with only one and see if the drivers install?

Essentially, at least for the moment, it seems the problem is that you're using an ATI card in a motherboard strictly designed for NVIDIA only cards.

I'd love to hear from anyone else who's done this successfully. For my own part, I don't think I'd want to try it.

-Red · Jan 29, 2007, 06:23 PM

Thanks for the quick answer... I'll try putting it into another slot. And I have only one ATI Radeon X1900 GT. So I'm pretty much screwed over right now?

Dyre Straits · Jan 29, 2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by -Red

Thanks for the quick answer... I'll try putting it into another slot. And I have only one ATI Radeon X1900 GT. So I'm pretty much screwed over right now?

I'd hate to be emphatic about it as technology is always in a state of flux. But, the motherboard is specifically designed to support nVidia cards, yes. Just how restrictive that is, I'm not sure. If the BIOS has been created to only recognize nVidia installed cards, then, it's very restrictive. If the only way you can get the card recognized is through that ATI-nVidia HotFix, then it does seem to point to a very restrictive BIOS configuration.

I noticed that the latest BIOS for that board was put up last May, 2006 to support the latest .... what was it? 7950 nvidia cards??? Something like that anyway. So, they are not supporting ATI cards at all.

I wish I had better news.

-Red · Jan 29, 2007, 07:17 PM

Man, I'm screwed...

nickvda · Feb 9, 2007, 02:08 AM

Hey, Well I had same issue as you, I have a gigabyte motherboard, not sure of model right now, and an ATi x1900gt. Well I didnt notice the motherboard was based on nforce4 chipset when I got it, and has same problem as you as soon as I installed sp2. After countless of hours looking around I checked ati website and they had a driver, not sure if its the same one you have, but its under customer care, radeon, x1900 serias, third-party. There you will find a driver made by ati for the nforce 4, I get pretty good fps and graphics in most game. But my card seemed to be defective or something started getting dead pixels and random crashes for no reason. So try those drivers from ATI site, they worked pretty well for me. I also had installed catalyst 7.1 at one point with it working fine, so maybe you can try that too. I tried contacting ATI for a new driver but I only got useless answers, lol

ronnn · Feb 9, 2007, 02:47 AM

not sure if I believe any of this, but uninstall ati drivers. Use drivercleaner and remove both ati and nvidia drivers etc. In other words follow directions with drivercleaner. Reinstall most recent motherboard drivers and ati drivers. Should work fine, unless you have some other conflict - such as sound card or memory. Try mem test and whatever.

Dyre Straits · Feb 9, 2007, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ronnn

not sure if I believe any of this, but uninstall ati drivers. Use drivercleaner and remove both ati and nvidia drivers etc. In other words follow directions with drivercleaner. Reinstall most recent motherboard drivers and ati drivers. Should work fine, unless you have some other conflict - such as sound card or memory. Try mem test and whatever.

I'm not sure what there is not to believe. ????

The original poster's complaint is due to the fact that the motherboard is SLI ONLY. It won't support Crossfire without using some third party driver 'hotfix' that I'm VERY familiar with as it was created by Regeneration over at NGOHQ. That 'hotfix' driver caused quite a stir and even got NGOHQ a legal threat from nVidia and NGOHQ had to take down the driver.

So, as for the original poster's problem, he needs either a different motherboard OR a nVidia video card.

As for those who posted afterwards, it's not necessarily the nforce4 chipset that is the problem. It's the fact that if a board is SLI ONLY, there's going to be trouble getting an ATI card working well on it.

From my own experience, I was using a nForce4 mobo and a X1950 Pro PCIe card just fine. I used that setup for over a month without issues. BUT, that motherboard is not SLI ONLY and that's the big difference.

So, at any rate, if you see SLI on the box, don't count on getting an ATi card working on that motherboard. At least not without some trouble.

ronnn · Feb 10, 2007, 04:04 AM

I totally miss the part where he states he has more than one card? If so my suspicions are totally unfounded.

Jan 28, 2007, 03:01 PM	#1
-Red DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Russia Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	ATI Radeon X1900 GT Need Help Well, I own a Radeon ATI X1900 GT and since the new catatalyst's, my oh so ''great'' (sarcasm) motherboard does not support the newest ones. I don't understand that much about all those technical stuffs but is there any way to run that catalyst anyway? Cause right now, if I do... I get black screen on start up and can't do anything. So right now I got a ATI NVidia Hotfix driver, which works but I get horrible FPS in games with it. Or are there any other good drivers which WILL work for my motherboard - Gigabyte GA-K8N-SLi And no, I got no money for another MOBO. __________________ [COLOR=Black]-Red^2n [COLOR=Purple]\|www.2ngaming.com [/COLOR][/COLOR]

Jan 28, 2007, 07:52 PM	Thread Starter #2
-Red DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Russia Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Great help guys. I've posted here for help before, and still no one helped out. Great. __________________ [COLOR=Black]-Red^2n [COLOR=Purple]\|www.2ngaming.com [/COLOR][/COLOR]

Jan 29, 2007, 06:23 PM	Thread Starter #8
-Red DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Russia Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the quick answer... I'll try putting it into another slot. And I have only one ATI Radeon X1900 GT. So I'm pretty much screwed over right now? __________________ [COLOR=Black]-Red^2n [COLOR=Purple]\|www.2ngaming.com [/COLOR][/COLOR]

Jan 29, 2007, 07:17 PM	Thread Starter #10
-Red DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Russia Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Man, I'm screwed... __________________ [COLOR=Black]-Red^2n [COLOR=Purple]\|www.2ngaming.com [/COLOR][/COLOR]

Feb 9, 2007, 02:08 AM	#11
nickvda DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Hey, Well I had same issue as you, I have a gigabyte motherboard, not sure of model right now, and an ATi x1900gt. Well I didnt notice the motherboard was based on nforce4 chipset when I got it, and has same problem as you as soon as I installed sp2. After countless of hours looking around I checked ati website and they had a driver, not sure if its the same one you have, but its under customer care, radeon, x1900 serias, third-party. There you will find a driver made by ati for the nforce 4, I get pretty good fps and graphics in most game. But my card seemed to be defective or something started getting dead pixels and random crashes for no reason. So try those drivers from ATI site, they worked pretty well for me. I also had installed catalyst 7.1 at one point with it working fine, so maybe you can try that too. I tried contacting ATI for a new driver but I only got useless answers, lol

Feb 9, 2007, 02:47 AM	#12
ronnn DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 617 Rep Power: 0	not sure if I believe any of this, but uninstall ati drivers. Use drivercleaner and remove both ati and nvidia drivers etc. In other words follow directions with drivercleaner. Reinstall most recent motherboard drivers and ati drivers. Should work fine, unless you have some other conflict - such as sound card or memory. Try mem test and whatever.

Feb 10, 2007, 04:04 AM	#14
ronnn DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 617 Rep Power: 0	I totally miss the part where he states he has more than one card? If so my suspicions are totally unfounded.