Radeon 9100 Trouble

che_guewara · Mar 23, 2003, 07:30 AM

Hi !
I have some Problems with my new Radeon 9100.
First of all, my 3dmark-points are quite bad: 6946 !!
Second: In Quake III i get in all 3 tested resolutions 130 FPS (640x480, 800x600, 1024x768). In Quake I i get only 290 FPS, a friend of mine got about 600 FPS with a Athlon Thunderbird 1300 and Radeon 8500.

Driver Settings are Default except the V-Sync is set to "always off" and Trueform disabled

My Sys:

K7S5A + Athlon 1800 XP
512 MB SD-RAM CL2
Radeon 9100 (3Dconnect)
Sound Onboard
15" Monitor

(1024 @ 75 Hz Desktop Res.)
Win98se

Whats wrong ???

Greetings che

digitalwanderer · Mar 23, 2003, 03:02 PM

You should be getting at least around 8K with that rig, I get about 8250 with my 8500 on a 1.4 tuly @ 1.75 running 98se.....what clock speeds is your 9100 set to? (PLEASE tell me it ain't a "Powercolor" card.....

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che_guewara · Mar 23, 2003, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digitalwanderer
You should be getting at least around 8K with that rig, I get about 8250 with my 8500 on a 1.4 tuly @ 1.75 running 98se.....what clock speeds is your 9100 set to? (PLEASE tell me it ain't a "Powercolor" card..... )

hi digitalwanderer !

It's a connect3D Radeon 9100.
Memory clock - 200,25 MHz
Engine clock - 249,75 MHz
Catalyst Driver 3.2
DirectX 9

I can't adjust the Clockspeed within the driver-panel... these values are taken from powerstrip.

I think my Graphics-card ignores the V-Sync settings .... I've set (for testing only) the Vsync on... but i get 130 FPS in Quake III (V-sync settings enabled in CPanel AND ingame).

Another Problem is: Windows always tries to install 2 Monitors... but i've plugged just 1 mon.@the analog-port

Greetings che

digitalwanderer · Mar 23, 2003, 07:27 PM

200/245? Really? My 8500 default is 275/275 and I can take it up to around 300/320 without too much problem.....that probably has a lot to do with it. As for the monitor thing, do you have an onboard video device on your mobo?

EDITED BITS: I had me GPU clockspeed screwed up, went back and fixed.

che_guewara · Mar 27, 2003, 09:24 AM

The Clockspeed is at default ! I havent changed anything... but anyway ... in normal settings 8000 pts in 3dmark is minimum...

I've disabled the onboard sound and plugged in my old SB 512 PCI... no framerate-plus either

Heinz · Apr 26, 2003, 04:00 PM

I have the same problem too.Playing Mohaa my fps don't go higher them 150, and go as low as 20 fps is very instable. My 9100 is also a connect3d. MY clock speeds is also 250/200.

Heinz · Apr 26, 2003, 04:05 PM

And also i scored in 3dmark se: 6568. But in an other forum someone siad to me that as a normal score of my sustem.

che_guewara · Apr 26, 2003, 04:13 PM

@heinz

I know now, what i've got to do !
I'll buy me a good old GF4 4200 °!!!

PS. Why did I make experiments ? How could I

Heinz · Apr 26, 2003, 04:47 PM

For me is one off the best GF4 ti 4200. The problem for me is the money. Nice choice.

rogueallman · May 1, 2003, 11:46 AM

Check you BIOS settings and make sure your AGP Apreture is set to the same amount of memory your video card is. Also shut off any shadowing for your video card in BIOS. Shut off any system caching in BIOS. Using BIOS shadowing for any system component can slow the system down. Make sure the memory configuration is set to auto in your BIOS.

Perform a clean boot by shutting off any programs booting at startup. If you press CTRL+ALT+DELETE at the same time your "Close Program" dialog box appears. Make sure Explorer and Systray are the only two applications running. Shut off your Antivirus program if running.

Also make sure your motherboard 4in1 drivers are updated, your AGP miniport driver is updated, DirectX is current, your video card drivers are current and make sure your audio drivers are current.

Also when you do a benchmark again, try shutting off the audio, I have found that certain audio cards will cause poor performance. So try the test with no audio.

Also make sure the DMA is enabled for the hard drives and CDRom drives.

GUNNIX · May 2, 2003, 10:55 AM

that score is normal for a 9100 with such clockspeeds , maybe try to flash a 250/250 bios on it , if that works without artifacting (play your fav game for an hour) , then try to flash it to 275/275
ALWAYS make a backup of your original bios
and maybe if u don't like to risk to much you should try to overclock it with rivatuner or rage3d tweak , or ...
if u can overclock to 275/275 with one of those tweakprogs and u don't get artifacting u can flash the bios.
look on this forum for bios download links

I'd buy the radeon 9500 pro instead of the ti4200 m8's , its faster and supports dx9 . It aint that much expensiver eiter, at least in belgium.

che_guewara · May 2, 2003, 01:36 PM

@gunnix

Thanks for advice !!! But the problem has solved by itself ! The card is damaged ! On Desktop, a kind of raster-effect appeared... When clicking the Start-Button, and the Start menu opens. After that, the raster appears in the same size of the start menu...

Hope you understand this mess

I'd buy me an ATI 9500 but most of the games I play are running better with a geforce (GPL, Nascar Racing200X)

Greetings

Trunks0 · May 3, 2003, 04:13 PM

Should have tried taking it back for a replacment

But if you got a new card enjoy it

wjmd · May 26, 2003, 11:46 PM

That's weird, I have the same card, 900mhz though on my system and an SBlive 5.1 sound card. Using omegas drivers+dx90a I have the same problem, just...my video card is fine, decient frames in MOHAA, just locks up some in fire fights, any thoughts?

CdnDucK · Jun 27, 2003, 04:29 AM

Hmmm.........

Max Powerz · Jul 8, 2003, 01:52 AM

Have you tried overclocking it to at least 250/250???

EDIT: I Get 5K and get almost no boost from going from 250/200 to 250/250 but that's cause of my stupid celly.

Fuzzless · Jul 9, 2003, 09:28 PM

Seems this 9100 card has more problems than it solves........despite Omegadrive's efforts with the drivers. See my post re the same card. My scores are 8962 with 3Dmark 20000, 6801 with 2001 and 1055 with 2003 but as you see from my post things are far from hunky dory! At least Omegadrive has got CMR2 working without Codemasters weird workaround!!

Max Powerz · Jul 10, 2003, 12:00 AM

Haha! I see what's wrong now, you have SDRAM! Get a new Nforce2 mobo, and some Fast DDr and you'll be getting AT LEAST 8K, probably more like 9k-10k with some tweaking.

Tov · Jul 14, 2003, 09:35 AM

I f I am not mistaken some 9100's have a 64-bit bus. That would be your problem. DOwnload riva tuner, it will tell you if you have a 128 or a 64 bit bus. I have 250/200 which I oc to 290/240 but even before that I got 9k in 3dmark hell after oc I managed a little over 10k.

Max Powerz · Jul 15, 2003, 08:23 PM

I just answered the question, YOU HAVE SDRAM! GET DDR!

Mar 23, 2003, 07:30 AM	#1
che_guewara DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Radeon 9100 Trouble Hi ! I have some Problems with my new Radeon 9100. First of all, my 3dmark-points are quite bad: 6946 !! Second: In Quake III i get in all 3 tested resolutions 130 FPS (640x480, 800x600, 1024x768). In Quake I i get only 290 FPS, a friend of mine got about 600 FPS with a Athlon Thunderbird 1300 and Radeon 8500. Driver Settings are Default except the V-Sync is set to "always off" and Trueform disabled My Sys: K7S5A + Athlon 1800 XP 512 MB SD-RAM CL2 Radeon 9100 (3Dconnect) Sound Onboard 15" Monitor (1024 @ 75 Hz Desktop Res.) Win98se Whats wrong ??? Greetings che

Mar 23, 2003, 03:02 PM	#2
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	You're right. You should be getting at least around 8K with that rig, I get about 8250 with my 8500 on a 1.4 tuly @ 1.75 running 98se.....what clock speeds is your 9100 set to? (PLEASE tell me it ain't a "Powercolor" card..... ) __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Mar 23, 2003, 07:27 PM	#4
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	200/245? Really? My 8500 default is 275/275 and I can take it up to around 300/320 without too much problem.....that probably has a lot to do with it. As for the monitor thing, do you have an onboard video device on your mobo? EDITED BITS: I had me GPU clockspeed screwed up, went back and fixed. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Apr 26, 2003, 04:00 PM	#6
Heinz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Portugal Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I have the same problem too.Playing Mohaa my fps don't go higher them 150, and go as low as 20 fps is very instable. My 9100 is also a connect3d. MY clock speeds is also 250/200. __________________ Mobo: Epox EP-8K5A2: Athlon 1.133MHz RAM: 512MB DDR(333MHz) GFX:Ati 9100 64 mb DDR OS: WXP Pro SP1

Apr 26, 2003, 04:05 PM	#7
Heinz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Portugal Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	And also i scored in 3dmark se: 6568. But in an other forum someone siad to me that as a normal score of my sustem. __________________ Mobo: Epox EP-8K5A2: Athlon 1.133MHz RAM: 512MB DDR(333MHz) GFX:Ati 9100 64 mb DDR OS: WXP Pro SP1

Mar 27, 2003, 09:24 AM	Thread Starter #5
che_guewara DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	The Clockspeed is at default ! I havent changed anything... but anyway ... in normal settings 8000 pts in 3dmark is minimum... I've disabled the onboard sound and plugged in my old SB 512 PCI... no framerate-plus either

Apr 26, 2003, 04:13 PM	Thread Starter #8
che_guewara DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	@heinz I know now, what i've got to do ! I'll buy me a good old GF4 4200 °!!! PS. Why did I make experiments ? How could I

Apr 26, 2003, 04:47 PM	#9
Heinz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Portugal Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	For me is one off the best GF4 ti 4200. The problem for me is the money. Nice choice. __________________ Mobo: Epox EP-8K5A2: Athlon 1.133MHz RAM: 512MB DDR(333MHz) GFX:Ati 9100 64 mb DDR OS: WXP Pro SP1

May 1, 2003, 11:46 AM	#10
rogueallman DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Check you BIOS settings and make sure your AGP Apreture is set to the same amount of memory your video card is. Also shut off any shadowing for your video card in BIOS. Shut off any system caching in BIOS. Using BIOS shadowing for any system component can slow the system down. Make sure the memory configuration is set to auto in your BIOS. Perform a clean boot by shutting off any programs booting at startup. If you press CTRL+ALT+DELETE at the same time your "Close Program" dialog box appears. Make sure Explorer and Systray are the only two applications running. Shut off your Antivirus program if running. Also make sure your motherboard 4in1 drivers are updated, your AGP miniport driver is updated, DirectX is current, your video card drivers are current and make sure your audio drivers are current. Also when you do a benchmark again, try shutting off the audio, I have found that certain audio cards will cause poor performance. So try the test with no audio. Also make sure the DMA is enabled for the hard drives and CDRom drives.

May 2, 2003, 10:55 AM	#11
GUNNIX DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 157 Rep Power: 0	that score is normal for a 9100 with such clockspeeds , maybe try to flash a 250/250 bios on it , if that works without artifacting (play your fav game for an hour) , then try to flash it to 275/275 ALWAYS make a backup of your original bios and maybe if u don't like to risk to much you should try to overclock it with rivatuner or rage3d tweak , or ... if u can overclock to 275/275 with one of those tweakprogs and u don't get artifacting u can flash the bios. look on this forum for bios download links I'd buy the radeon 9500 pro instead of the ti4200 m8's , its faster and supports dx9 . It aint that much expensiver eiter, at least in belgium.

May 2, 2003, 01:36 PM	Thread Starter #12
che_guewara DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	@gunnix Thanks for advice !!! But the problem has solved by itself ! The card is damaged ! On Desktop, a kind of raster-effect appeared... When clicking the Start-Button, and the Start menu opens. After that, the raster appears in the same size of the start menu... Hope you understand this mess I'd buy me an ATI 9500 but most of the games I play are running better with a geforce (GPL, Nascar Racing200X) Greetings

May 3, 2003, 04:13 PM	#13
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver,B.C.,Canada Posts: 552 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Should have tried taking it back for a replacment But if you got a new card enjoy it __________________

May 26, 2003, 11:46 PM	#14
wjmd DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jersey Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	That's weird, I have the same card, 900mhz though on my system and an SBlive 5.1 sound card. Using omegas drivers+dx90a I have the same problem, just...my video card is fine, decient frames in MOHAA, just locks up some in fire fights, any thoughts?

Jun 27, 2003, 04:29 AM	#15
CdnDucK DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Hmmm.........

Jul 8, 2003, 01:52 AM	#16
Max Powerz DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 650 Rep Power: 0	Have you tried overclocking it to at least 250/250??? EDIT: I Get 5K and get almost no boost from going from 250/200 to 250/250 but that's cause of my stupid celly. __________________

Jul 9, 2003, 09:28 PM	#17
Fuzzless DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: West Yorkshire, Enland Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Seems this 9100 card has more problems than it solves........despite Omegadrive's efforts with the drivers. See my post re the same card. My scores are 8962 with 3Dmark 20000, 6801 with 2001 and 1055 with 2003 but as you see from my post things are far from hunky dory! At least Omegadrive has got CMR2 working without Codemasters weird workaround!! __________________ Soltek SL-75KAV-X mobo Rev. Q11 (in ATX case+300W PSU) AMD Athlon XP1600 512MB RAM PC133 Sapph.. 9100 128MBDDR Cat. 3.5 7.90 driver Audigy + Inspire 5400 5.1 spkrs IBM Deskstar 40GB HDD, Samsung CDROM, LiteOn CD-R, Creative DVD etc. Win98 SE all updates Directx9.0a Via chipset drivers Hyperion 4.48

Jul 10, 2003, 12:00 AM	#18
Max Powerz DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 650 Rep Power: 0	Haha! I see what's wrong now, you have SDRAM! Get a new Nforce2 mobo, and some Fast DDr and you'll be getting AT LEAST 8K, probably more like 9k-10k with some tweaking.

Jul 14, 2003, 09:35 AM	#19
Tov DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	I f I am not mistaken some 9100's have a 64-bit bus. That would be your problem. DOwnload riva tuner, it will tell you if you have a 128 or a 64 bit bus. I have 250/200 which I oc to 290/240 but even before that I got 9k in 3dmark hell after oc I managed a little over 10k.

Jul 15, 2003, 08:23 PM	#20
Max Powerz DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 650 Rep Power: 0	I just answered the question, YOU HAVE SDRAM! GET DDR!