Not Retaining Settings?

greeneg · Jun 2, 2007, 01:48 PM

Every since the CAT 7.4's, I have noticed that when my computer boots, it defaults to 16 bit colors and 60Hz refresh rate. My normal settings are 32 bit and 75 Hz. I can reset to the normal settings manually and they hold until the computer is re-booted, but after a re-boot, we're back to 16 bit and 60 Hz.

Anyone have any thoughts on this one, I have never had this problem before in this 4 year old system. Nor, have I changed any windows settings of which I am aware.

Suggestions appreciated.

System Details:

gigaByte 8INXP; P4 3.06HT.
Radeon x 850 256DDR CAT 7.5
2G PC 266 DDR
TurtleBeach Santa Cruz sound
3- 7200RPM HD
Razer Copperhead
Saitek X45
WinXP SP2

greeneg · Jun 19, 2007, 02:44 PM

Anyone?? Help? This is really annoying. Since I posted the above and updated to the June 7 DirectX 9.0C update, I have also noticed that on irregular occasions, my D3D appears to be disabled. Consequently, neither FS9 nor FSX will start. A reboot seems to resolve this at least temporarilly, but I would like to resolve this issue.

Would really appreciate some help.

Thanks,

Dyre Straits · Jun 20, 2007, 06:03 AM

Greetings!

I do recall reading your OP, but, didn't have anything I could think of at the time to offer as help. However, with the addition of your second problem, I have to wonder if your CMOS battery is dead. It's the nickel-sized battery that goes on the motherboard. Seeing that the system is '4 years old' that would make the battery suspect.

Good luck!

Tipstaff · Jun 20, 2007, 06:43 AM

Question: did you do a cleaning of the old drivers with Driver Cleaner? If so, to be on the safe side you may want to reinstall your motherboards chipset drivers, and then try reinstalling your video card drivers, especially if you chose to clean out the IGP drivers.

Another possibility is that your registry is getting corrupted, or something along those lines. You may want to clean out the registry of useless junk using a tool like CCleaner.

greeneg · Jun 20, 2007, 01:05 PM

Thanks for the thoughts. I had not thought of the CMOS battery although when I have had this issue before I usually had boot problems and the date and time settings would not be retained which isn't the current problem.

I did use DriverCleaner Pro when I installed the latest version. I routinely run CCleaner almost daily before shutting down for the night. I also have WinRescueME XP version which I can run.

I am beginning to think that this is some sort of individual quirk with my system and the later version of the CCC which is partially why I posted the problem to see if I should pass it to ATI.

Thanks for the help, any further suggestions welcomed and appreciated.

Dyre Straits · Jun 20, 2007, 07:54 PM

Yes, usually, if the CMOS battery is dead, the date/time and settings also get reset. But, usually, that only happens if you power down and unplug the system. As long as the PC is plugged in, the motherboard can still get enough power to keep the settings.

You may be right about it just being something unique to your system. From my experience with the 7.5 drivers, there's not that much to consider. If they aren't working properly, I'd recommend just going back to the 7.4 drivers. In fact, I'm using Omega's based on 7.4 now.

Good luck!

greeneg · Jun 22, 2007, 01:21 PM

Just update and perhaps clarify my situation, I have identified the culprit as the latest version of the Catalyst Control Center. I managed to actually check the settings prior to CCC loading this morning and Windows loaded the correct settings ( 75mHz refresh rate and 32 bit color). I then saw CCC load and the settings were changed after that.

I would stress that after the CCC changes are undone, everything appears to function normally. The problem on seems to appear from a re-booting of the system ( hot or cold).

I still have no idea as to why CCC is doing this, but I would certainly consider this a "bug" and hopefully Catalyst Maker will notice this thread and comment.

As always, any thoughts or suggestions appreciated.

Dyre Straits · Jun 22, 2007, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greeneg

Just update and perhaps clarify my situation, I have identified the culprit as the latest version of the Catalyst Control Center. I managed to actually check the settings prior to CCC loading this morning and Windows loaded the correct settings ( 75mHz refresh rate and 32 bit color). I then saw CCC load and the settings were changed after that.

I would stress that after the CCC changes are undone, everything appears to function normally. The problem on seems to appear from a re-booting of the system ( hot or cold).

I still have no idea as to why CCC is doing this, but I would certainly consider this a "bug" and hopefully Catalyst Maker will notice this thread and comment.

As always, any thoughts or suggestions appreciated.

I suggest you go ahead and fill out a trouble report to ATi about this rather than hope it gets seen. Nice bit of troubleshooting, though.

greeneg · Jun 22, 2007, 08:34 PM

Thanks, have done so. Will post back the response to finish up the thread.

JRosenfeld · Jun 22, 2007, 10:44 PM

You can also stop CCC from loading on startup. In fact, as I don't change my settings very often, that's what I've done. It's easy enough to start it manually when I need it.

greeneg · Jul 12, 2007, 12:00 PM

I thought that I would just post an update in essence to close the thread unless there are further comments.

J Rosenfeld's solution, not allowing CCC to load, does in fact solve the problem as far as my system is concerned. It appears that once I have updated my video drivers, and configured the desktop, I can close the CCC and still have the videocard settings (AA, that sort of thing) retained. Hence I only need to open CCC if I need to change something which I seldom do.

The thing which I think is important here is that the culprit is very definitely the CCC and I think that this does spotlight that issue.

I have reported the problem to both ATI and the CAT Team.

Thanks to all for their help.

Dyre Straits · Jul 12, 2007, 10:03 PM

Thanks for posting back with an update. Glad to know the culprit has been identified and a solution found.

greeneg · Jul 12, 2007, 10:13 PM

No problem, I hate loose ends in a thread...

Ed Green

Jun 2, 2007, 01:48 PM	#1
greeneg DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	Not Retaining Settings? Every since the CAT 7.4's, I have noticed that when my computer boots, it defaults to 16 bit colors and 60Hz refresh rate. My normal settings are 32 bit and 75 Hz. I can reset to the normal settings manually and they hold until the computer is re-booted, but after a re-boot, we're back to 16 bit and 60 Hz. Anyone have any thoughts on this one, I have never had this problem before in this 4 year old system. Nor, have I changed any windows settings of which I am aware. Suggestions appreciated. System Details: gigaByte 8INXP; P4 3.06HT. Radeon x 850 256DDR CAT 7.5 2G PC 266 DDR TurtleBeach Santa Cruz sound 3- 7200RPM HD Razer Copperhead Saitek X45 WinXP SP2 __________________ Ed Green RFP Team http://www.panelshop.com/Banners/DEV.jpg gigabyte 8INXP HT Enabled Intel P4 3.06 2048 PC266DDR ATI Radeon x850Pro 256 PRO CAT 8.3 Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Win XP SP3 500W PS Lot's of FANS!

Jun 19, 2007, 02:44 PM	Thread Starter #2
greeneg DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	Anyone?? Help? This is really annoying. Since I posted the above and updated to the June 7 DirectX 9.0C update, I have also noticed that on irregular occasions, my D3D appears to be disabled. Consequently, neither FS9 nor FSX will start. A reboot seems to resolve this at least temporarilly, but I would like to resolve this issue. Would really appreciate some help. Thanks, __________________ Ed Green RFP Team http://www.panelshop.com/Banners/DEV.jpg gigabyte 8INXP HT Enabled Intel P4 3.06 2048 PC266DDR ATI Radeon x850Pro 256 PRO CAT 8.3 Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Win XP SP3 500W PS Lot's of FANS!

Jun 20, 2007, 06:43 AM	#4
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 191 System Specs	Question: did you do a cleaning of the old drivers with Driver Cleaner? If so, to be on the safe side you may want to reinstall your motherboards chipset drivers, and then try reinstalling your video card drivers, especially if you chose to clean out the IGP drivers. Another possibility is that your registry is getting corrupted, or something along those lines. You may want to clean out the registry of useless junk using a tool like CCleaner. __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick. Last edited by Tipstaff; Jun 20, 2007 at 06:52 AM.

Jun 20, 2007, 01:05 PM	Thread Starter #5
greeneg DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the thoughts. I had not thought of the CMOS battery although when I have had this issue before I usually had boot problems and the date and time settings would not be retained which isn't the current problem. I did use DriverCleaner Pro when I installed the latest version. I routinely run CCleaner almost daily before shutting down for the night. I also have WinRescueME XP version which I can run. I am beginning to think that this is some sort of individual quirk with my system and the later version of the CCC which is partially why I posted the problem to see if I should pass it to ATI. Thanks for the help, any further suggestions welcomed and appreciated. __________________ Ed Green RFP Team http://www.panelshop.com/Banners/DEV.jpg gigabyte 8INXP HT Enabled Intel P4 3.06 2048 PC266DDR ATI Radeon x850Pro 256 PRO CAT 8.3 Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Win XP SP3 500W PS Lot's of FANS!

Jun 22, 2007, 01:21 PM	Thread Starter #7
greeneg DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	Just to Update: Attention Catalyst Maker Just update and perhaps clarify my situation, I have identified the culprit as the latest version of the Catalyst Control Center. I managed to actually check the settings prior to CCC loading this morning and Windows loaded the correct settings ( 75mHz refresh rate and 32 bit color). I then saw CCC load and the settings were changed after that. I would stress that after the CCC changes are undone, everything appears to function normally. The problem on seems to appear from a re-booting of the system ( hot or cold). I still have no idea as to why CCC is doing this, but I would certainly consider this a "bug" and hopefully Catalyst Maker will notice this thread and comment. As always, any thoughts or suggestions appreciated. __________________ Ed Green RFP Team http://www.panelshop.com/Banners/DEV.jpg gigabyte 8INXP HT Enabled Intel P4 3.06 2048 PC266DDR ATI Radeon x850Pro 256 PRO CAT 8.3 Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Win XP SP3 500W PS Lot's of FANS!

Jun 22, 2007, 08:34 PM	Thread Starter #9
greeneg DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	Thanks, have done so. Will post back the response to finish up the thread. __________________ Ed Green RFP Team http://www.panelshop.com/Banners/DEV.jpg gigabyte 8INXP HT Enabled Intel P4 3.06 2048 PC266DDR ATI Radeon x850Pro 256 PRO CAT 8.3 Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Win XP SP3 500W PS Lot's of FANS!

Jun 22, 2007, 10:44 PM	#10
JRosenfeld HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 104 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	You can also stop CCC from loading on startup. In fact, as I don't change my settings very often, that's what I've done. It's easy enough to start it manually when I need it.

Jul 12, 2007, 12:00 PM	Thread Starter #11
greeneg DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	I thought that I would just post an update in essence to close the thread unless there are further comments. J Rosenfeld's solution, not allowing CCC to load, does in fact solve the problem as far as my system is concerned. It appears that once I have updated my video drivers, and configured the desktop, I can close the CCC and still have the videocard settings (AA, that sort of thing) retained. Hence I only need to open CCC if I need to change something which I seldom do. The thing which I think is important here is that the culprit is very definitely the CCC and I think that this does spotlight that issue. I have reported the problem to both ATI and the CAT Team. Thanks to all for their help. __________________ Ed Green RFP Team http://www.panelshop.com/Banners/DEV.jpg gigabyte 8INXP HT Enabled Intel P4 3.06 2048 PC266DDR ATI Radeon x850Pro 256 PRO CAT 8.3 Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Win XP SP3 500W PS Lot's of FANS! Last edited by greeneg; Jul 12, 2007 at 12:01 PM. Reason: misspelling

Jul 12, 2007, 10:13 PM	Thread Starter #13
greeneg DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	No problem, I hate loose ends in a thread... Ed Green __________________ Ed Green RFP Team http://www.panelshop.com/Banners/DEV.jpg gigabyte 8INXP HT Enabled Intel P4 3.06 2048 PC266DDR ATI Radeon x850Pro 256 PRO CAT 8.3 Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Win XP SP3 500W PS Lot's of FANS!