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If ignorance is bliss...
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7.9's Killed my games
As of this morning I had installed the Catalyst 7.8 Drivers for my Radeon 9800 XT card. I then saw that there was a newer version (7.9) and so I decided to update.
After installing this latest version (which I told to install the Drivers and the Microsoft Visual Studio C++ 2005 Redistributable) I now have problems with Half Life 2 not opening at all. It does not show up any error messages, I just double click the game to run it, the screen flashes for a second (like it does right before the game opens up), and then it goes back to desktop. This happens for all Half Life 2 (Source Engine) based games and mods I have currently Installed. Also other games I have installed have similar problems. Such as Half Life (1), when I run it, it defaults its rendering mode to Software and when I try and change it to Direct 3D (what it should be) it says "The specified video mode is not supported. The game will now run in software mode." The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind does a similar thing giving me a message when I try to run it about it not having a supported render mode or something. I uninstalled the drivers after I had these problems and reinstalled them after cleaning my system with Driver Cleaner (which I did the first time also) but the problem still remains. My system is up-to-date with all the drivers for all it's components (Bios, MB Drivers, Windows Updates etc) My system is: Windows XP Pro SP2 Gigabyte GA-7N400Pro AMD XP 2800+ (2075MHz) ATI Radeon 9800 XT 128MB (R360) 1 x 80 GB HDD 1 x 250 GB HDD
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"If ignorance is bliss...then knock the smile off my face!!!" - Rage Against The Machine - Zach De La Rocha |
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could you run dxdiag and save the info in your computer and upload it to here. It would help us and people working for AMD to troubleshoot your problem.
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Just a guess, but sounds like AGP is OFF. Some users have had problems with AGP over the last couple releases. Try Cat 7.7.
Possibly also need to re-install mobo chipset drivers and or direct X. In the display tab of DXDIAG you will see 3 directX functions, all of which should be enabled. |
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Terry please look at my thread thanks http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-...lease-fix.html I can't run test drive under my x700 pro card but bioshock drivers was working fine for the game. someone esle said they can't run it under x800
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If ignorance is bliss...
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Where am I supposed to put the DX Diag txt file as it is too big (54K, max is 10K) to put here and zips do not work?
AGP is not off and all modes are enabled under DxDiag. I will be rolling back, but I will go to 7.8, as I said I had them on just before and they worked without a hitch. Why would mobo drivers and DX reinstall help if the problem is clearly with the 7.9 drivers? EDIT: I am now rolled back to 7.8's and all is running perfect.
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As long as you don't desperately need a fix delivered with the 9's I wouldn't sweat it too much, but it wouldn't hurt to verify it was in fact the 7.9 drivers and not just a messy install/something funky went down.
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If ignorance is bliss...
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I am 100% sure it was not a messy install. I always triple check everything before I install a new set of Cats. I clean with not only Driver Clear but a couple of other cleaning apps to make sure the install is as fresh as possible.
You're right though, I'm not worried. I'll just see what happens with the 7.10's.
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I too am running a 9800 pro. And when installing the 7.9 drivers my Direct3D just completely stops working. I can not play any Direct3D based game, it just opens and then closes right after. When opening dxdiag and testing Direct3D it gives errors.
Direct3D 7 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x80004005 (Generic failure) Direct3D 8 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x8876086c (error code) Direct3D 9 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x8876086c (error code) I've reverted back to 7.8 and those work fine. I've also tried reinstall the 7.9's again just to see if something broke the first time, same thing happens. And yes, I do use Driver Cleaner when uninstalling/reinstalling drivers. |
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At least its good to see I am not the only one with this issue.
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I did say it was a guess:-) It is possible that installing a new driver will mess up gart drivers, (mobo) or DX. Now it seems possible that smartgart is the culprit. As you can see, "Cyper" seems to have the no DX problem. |
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If ignorance is bliss...
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With smartgart I always have fast write off (Bios) and all other options are on.
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I too have the same problem.
I have an X800 AGP card and i had no problems with the 7.8s I then installed the Quake Wars demo (had been playin the beta fine) and it told me that you need the 7.9s to play it. So i got them and the Quake Wars demo played fine, however i cant play any D3D games at all now. If i rollback to the 7.8s i can play everything except Quake Wars. So are there any 3rd party drivers that are based on AGP friendly versions of cat drivers but have the OpenGL improvements added in 7.9s? |
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Here's something to try if you're game: There are two OpenGL files that you can copy/paste from the 7.9 drivers and replace the ones from 7.8. They will go into the C:\Windows\system32 directory. To make it somewhat easier, install the CAT 7.9s and then copy out these two files: atioglx2.dll atioglxx.dll Place these into a separate location for now. This way you have the fully extracted dll's. Now, uninstall the 7.9s and install the other version that works. Once done, replace the two files of the same name with the newer files you just copied out. Let us know if this works! Good luck! |
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Just read this and thought id put my experience across- ive been running fine on 7.8 for a while now, but when i installed 7.9, it created an issue whereby anything requiring Direct3D would refuse to run. Ths is where the problems begun! Using their procedure for removing an old version and installing a new one seems to be ok on the whole. Its the other way round thats the problem- downgrading! I put it back to what i had before (7.8), and suddenly a load of the desktop icons are missing, and the drivers completely crash after a second reboot. So, scrapped that, went to 7.7. CCC wouldn't open. Ended up going to 7.6 before i got any joy. There's got to be some sort of issue with downgrading.
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I take it you weren't being prompted for this. So, if not, the only sure way to get a good previous driver install is to completely remove any trace of the newer drivers. Hope this helps. The reason it works OK when upgrading is that the installer will automatically overwrite the older files. Just doesn't work in reverse. |
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No, i was following ati's instructions (software uninstall util in a/r progs, rebooot, remove any other ati stuff, then install new ver.)
Obviously there's a few bits and pieces it doesnt remove, and like you say it won't overwrite new with old. One thing ati do say though, is you should have an entry in a/r progs called DAO, which needs removing. This ive never found? |
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__________________ For further information and general help on software driver installation, game issues, and more, visit [COLOR=#0000ff]ATI Customer Care[/COLOR]. SPECIAL NOTE of CAUTION: Caution: Installing the Catalyst software suite 7.8 or 7.9 on a system containing the ATI Radeon™ X1950 AGP series of product may result in either the desktop failing to be drawn properly or the operating system failing to boot. It is recommended to continue using Catalyst 7.7 for this product at this time. ___________________ |
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I'm having the exact same problems that spark is describing. It seems impossible to fully get rid of 7.9 drivers (for example after uninstalling them and rebooting, my machine still runs at full resolution). I've tried for days but can't seem to do it. So far the only thing that's made it at least possible to use my system again is re-installing 7.9
I will give 7.6 a shot I guess. |
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I was able to uninstall the 7.9 drivers, for the most part. However ever since installing them and then reverting back to 7.8's things are acting up quite a bit.
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Revert back even further :o
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Once you've done that, run CCleaner's Issues application to clean up any leftover Registry entries. CCleaner - Home Good luck! |
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Hi!
I had the same problem some of you are describing and I think I fixed it. First, I have a mobo with nForce2 chipset. I surfed around to discover that this mobo needs up-to-date drivers in order to achieve AGP 8x. Otherwise you're stuck at AGP. So if you have the nForce2 chipset, go update your drivers if you're having a prob getting AGP 8x. Well, I fixed that issue, but I wasn't able to play 3d games with cat 7.9, now I know why (if you didn;t read all of this thread, it's bc ati 7.7+ has a problem with the agp cards). I was using cat 7.7 and experiencing some instability, so after reading this article I thought I'd try dyre straight's suggestion. I installed 7.9, copied the 2 .dll's and uninstalled 7.9. Then installed 7.6 and copied those dll's back. Everything seems to work really well and I'd like to say thanks to dyre for his great advice. Thanks! Oh yeah, I haven't installed CCC, should I? I'll post more details about my probs and what I did if anyone's interested. ~JPC Last edited by JPC; Sep 25, 2007 at 10:57 PM. Reason: Didn't want to double post. |
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As for installing CCC: Unless you really need any of the tweaks and controls that are included, I'd leave well enough alone for now.
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I also got the DirectX error with 7.9 when launching Call of Duty 2 on my X800 AGP.
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Hi guys, I also am having probs with the 7.9 drivers and ive tried the above suggestion. Trouble is, Quake wars is throwing up c++ errors without 7.9. Ive tried installing Microsofts redistributable to no effect. any suggestions? |
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