Catalyst 7.10 with X1950 AGP support?

JohnDoe47 · Oct 1, 2007, 12:55 AM

As above really.

Also any word on the release date?

I really do hope AMD sort this issue out as we are now 4 months out of date with a modern graphic card.

There are a lot of bug fixes and optimizations I would like to get my hand on.

RoyBatty · Oct 1, 2007, 10:13 PM

All good things come to those who wait.

But I'm quite up to date, 7.9s work fine for me.

CDsDontBurn · Oct 1, 2007, 11:00 PM

i haven't tried anything else other than the 7.4s i'm still using. if the 7.10s do indeed give AGP support again, i'll go ahead and give those a shot hoping that it will fix, yet knowing it wont, the minor artifacting i've been receiving when playing games. maybe i'll at least get an extra 5 FPS average and better IQ in games?

Fekl · Oct 4, 2007, 09:28 PM

For me 7.10 betaRC3/RC4 worked perfectly..

dogs0ldier · Oct 5, 2007, 03:14 AM

I put the 7.9 drivers on with my x1950Pro and they seemed to work fine. I then noticed the caution notice on the release notes saying that X1950 users should stick with 7.7 until problems are fixed. i took them off just to be safe and went back to the previous omega drivers but i am tempted now to try the latest omega drivers since i had no problems with the 7.9 stock drivers.

BirdDog · Oct 6, 2007, 11:53 AM

I really hope that the will support agp in the new release, so we can get our new games like bioshock optimized.

When i try to install 7.9, and i reboot, then blue screen.

So fix it plz

bman · Oct 12, 2007, 10:21 AM

Still not working on my x1950 pro agp

Dyre Straits · Oct 12, 2007, 10:26 AM

I'd like to make a suggestion. Install the version that works...likely the 7.6s, right? Make sure the drivers are working properly.

Now, WITHOUT UNINSTALLING the working version, run the installer for the 7.10s.

Please report your results.

CDsDontBurn · Oct 12, 2007, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

I'd like to make a suggestion. Install the version that works...likely the 7.6s, right? Make sure the drivers are working properly.

Now, WITHOUT UNINSTALLING the working version, run the installer for the 7.10s.

Please report your results.

but won't the installer for the 7.10s remove whatever previous driver version is installed?

Dyre Straits · Oct 12, 2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

but won't the installer for the 7.10s remove whatever previous driver version is installed?

I'm just suggesting a possible solution. I'd like to hear the results.

bman · Oct 13, 2007, 11:58 AM

This one will be a little bit long but i guess it has to be done...

Yesterday i had the day off and since i have WIC to play that has some fixes in the latest drivers i decided to try the 7.10 again....

x1950 pro agp on a nforce2 chipset... Old i know, but I have the 7.7 working fine so the latest drivers should work.

This is what i tried withe the 7.10 driver package only:

First try:
- Install the 7.10 over the 7.7 without doing anything else
Results:
- 2d working fine... direct3d not working.

Second try:
- Uninstall 7.10
- Install 7.10
Results:
- 2d working fine... direct3d not working.

Install 7.7 over 7.10 just to check... They worked fine.

Third try:
- Changed AGP aperture size to 256mb as suggested in other thread.
- Uninstall 7.7
- Install 7.10
Results:
- 2d working fine... direct3d not working.

Last try:
- Uninstall 7.10
- Used drivercleaner
- Install 7.10
Results:
- 2d working fine... direct3d not working.

Ran out of options

Dyre Straits · Oct 13, 2007, 12:09 PM

OK, let's try something else:

After installing the 7.10 drivers, have you tried installing the motherboard chipset drivers again? Then, run the DirectX 9 Update patch from Microsoft......

Download details: DirectX End-User Runtime

NemesisUK · Oct 13, 2007, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bman

This one will be a little bit long but i guess it has to be done...

Yesterday i had the day off and since i have WIC to play that has some fixes in the latest drivers i decided to try the 7.10 again....

x1950 pro agp on a nforce2 chipset... Old i know, but I have the 7.7 working fine so the latest drivers should work.

This is what i tried withe the 7.10 driver package only:

First try:
- Install the 7.10 over the 7.7 without doing anything else
Results:
- 2d working fine... direct3d not working.

Second try:
- Uninstall 7.10
- Install 7.10
Results:
- 2d working fine... direct3d not working.

Install 7.7 over 7.10 just to check... They worked fine.

Third try:
- Changed AGP aperture size to 256mb as suggested in other thread.
- Uninstall 7.7
- Install 7.10
Results:
- 2d working fine... direct3d not working.

Last try:
- Uninstall 7.10
- Used drivercleaner
- Install 7.10
Results:
- 2d working fine... direct3d not working.

Ran out of options

Have you tried setting your AGP Aperture to 256mb. I've seen on a couple of other sites that for some it cures the problem your witnessing.

Dyre Straits · Oct 13, 2007, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemesisUK

Have you tried setting your AGP Aperture to 256mb. I've seen on a couple of other sites that for some it cures the problem your witnessing.

It's listed right there in Third Try. You even quoted it.

bman · Oct 13, 2007, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

OK, let's try something else:

After installing the 7.10 drivers, have you tried installing the motherboard chipset drivers again? Then, run the DirectX 9 Update patch from Microsoft......

Download details: DirectX End-User Runtime

Installed 7.10 over working 7.7... Installed nvidia chipset drivers (GART)... Still won't work.

Tried the DirectX update... Still won't work.

Thanks for trying to help

Yousaif · Oct 13, 2007, 09:58 PM

This new driver hosed my 1600PRO AGP 3d as well. I thought it may have been a Windows issue so I reformatted my son's PC. 3 hours later I get it back up and running but with the 7.7 drivers.

Would have been nice if ATI/AMD would have said something about the lack of support for AGP cards on the new driver package, or if they did mention it, make it a little more predominant.

I am so freaking pissed off right now.

bman · Oct 14, 2007, 03:45 PM

After reading other forum and doing some testing I now know the exact file that is causing the problem... And since i know staff from ATI reads this forums i believe that this might be valuable information...

ati3duag.dll ... If i install the 7.10 drivers and i replace this file with the one from the 7.7 drivers everything works...I put the file from 7.8,7.9 or 7.10 back and I loose direct3d... So... By replacing just one file I can get it working or not working...

I assume that this is the main direct3d file so what I have now is everything from the 7.10 drivers with the direct3d from the 7.7... At least I have the new opengl for Quake Wars

NemesisUK · Oct 14, 2007, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

It's listed right there in Third Try. You even quoted it.

Skulks off and hides

Yesterday was one of those day's.

madant · Oct 16, 2007, 12:26 PM

So no DirX tweaks but faster OpenGL...

Ah, well, sounds OK since i play ETQW here and there

But a little speed for UT3 and WIC would be nice

cause_of_chaos · Oct 16, 2007, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bman

This one will be a little bit long but i guess it has to be done...

Yesterday i had the day off and since i have WIC to play that has some fixes in the latest drivers i decided to try the 7.10 again....

x1950 pro agp on a nforce2 chipset... Old i know, but I have the 7.7 working fine so the latest drivers should work.

This is what i tried withe the 7.10 driver package only:

First try:
- Install the 7.10 over the 7.7 without doing anything else
Results:
- 2d working fine... direct3d not working.

Second try:
- Uninstall 7.10
- Install 7.10
Results:
- 2d working fine... direct3d not working.

Install 7.7 over 7.10 just to check... They worked fine.

Third try:
- Changed AGP aperture size to 256mb as suggested in other thread.
- Uninstall 7.7
- Install 7.10
Results:
- 2d working fine... direct3d not working.

Last try:
- Uninstall 7.10
- Used drivercleaner
- Install 7.10
Results:
- 2d working fine... direct3d not working.

Ran out of options

I did EXACTLY what you did, before even reading it!. Same result with my X700. I use the 7.8s though - they work fine. While I'm not too bothered about having the latest drivers (UT3 ran OK on my machine with low settings), I almost thought my GFX card gave in after trying to search for a solution.

The Omega 7.9s are the 1st Omegas that support 1360x768 on my LCD TV, but I can't use them as I get that "No DirectX" issue with them too. Sucks...

cause_of_chaos

madant · Oct 17, 2007, 09:48 AM

Maybe we need a sticky for this specific topic

Dyre Straits · Oct 17, 2007, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madant

Maybe we need a sticky for this specific topic

Nah...it keeps getting bumped to the top anyway.

idinh · Oct 18, 2007, 02:44 PM

I just installed the 7.10's yesterday following ATI instructions (delete CCC and driver using add/remove programs; reboot pc and installed 7.10) and they work fine so far.

I only played some TF2 but had no problems.

My vid card is a Visiontek X1950 Pro XGE AGP.

I wa previsouly using the 7.7's.

Vengeful#1 · Oct 18, 2007, 03:06 PM

I keep seeing these threads..but the strange thing is im running both my AGP cards (Powercolor X1950 pro & GeCube 9600XT) on the Cat7.10s without any drama's..previously i was using the Cat7.7 and Omega 7.9.1 without any dramas either..

madant · Oct 19, 2007, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vengeful#1

I keep seeing these threads..but the strange thing is im running both my AGP cards (Powercolor X1950 pro & GeCube 9600XT) on the Cat7.10s without any drama's..previously i was using the Cat7.7 and Omega 7.9.1 without any dramas either..

Maybe it's a Windows problem with some update...

blitz.xp · Oct 23, 2007, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bman

After reading other forum and doing some testing I now know the exact file that is causing the problem... And since i know staff from ATI reads this forums i believe that this might be valuable information...

ati3duag.dll ... If i install the 7.10 drivers and i replace this file with the one from the 7.7 drivers everything works...I put the file from 7.8,7.9 or 7.10 back and I loose direct3d... So... By replacing just one file I can get it working or not working...

I assume that this is the main direct3d file so what I have now is everything from the 7.10 drivers with the direct3d from the 7.7... At least I have the new opengl for Quake Wars

this worked for me too!

(remember to copy the .dll on safe mode, otherwise you cant overwrite)

Pluvious · Oct 23, 2007, 03:15 AM

We shouldn't have to this silly workaround... what the hell is wrong with ATI/AMD and these drivers?

CDsDontBurn · Oct 23, 2007, 03:48 AM

a quick question about drivers of the 7.7 and up....does this affect all AGP cards, or only the x1950pro cards?

i wonder because recently i reformatted a friend's machine which had a 9600pro card in it. and for fear of this issue, i put on the 7.6 driver.

Yousaif · Oct 24, 2007, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

a quick question about drivers of the 7.7 and up....does this affect all AGP cards, or only the x1950pro cards?

i wonder because recently i reformatted a friend's machine which had a 9600pro card in it. and for fear of this issue, i put on the 7.6 driver.

I know it affected my son's Sapphire 1600PRO. It even failed after a fresh install of Windows.

madant · Oct 24, 2007, 10:41 AM

It seems DAAMIT is working on something else which has priority at the moment. I would guess drivers for RV670 is the thing, so they are tweaking everything for HD series.

It is understandable 'cause they have to get their ass out of the gutter with this new one, but still... Too many AGP cards out there for now, and upgrade time for most AMD users (as for me also) will be when the new AM2+ chipset is out in a few weeks.

But if you annoy users with this kind of major error you will turn more than a few heads toward nvidias' new card.

Ccc...

Oct 1, 2007, 11:00 PM	#3
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	i haven't tried anything else other than the 7.4s i'm still using. if the 7.10s do indeed give AGP support again, i'll go ahead and give those a shot hoping that it will fix, yet knowing it wont, the minor artifacting i've been receiving when playing games. maybe i'll at least get an extra 5 FPS average and better IQ in games? __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Oct 14, 2007, 03:45 PM	#17
bman DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	After reading other forum and doing some testing I now know the exact file that is causing the problem... And since i know staff from ATI reads this forums i believe that this might be valuable information... ati3duag.dll ... If i install the 7.10 drivers and i replace this file with the one from the 7.7 drivers everything works...I put the file from 7.8,7.9 or 7.10 back and I loose direct3d... So... By replacing just one file I can get it working or not working... I assume that this is the main direct3d file so what I have now is everything from the 7.10 drivers with the direct3d from the 7.7... At least I have the new opengl for Quake Wars Last edited by bman; Oct 14, 2007 at 03:54 PM.

Oct 23, 2007, 03:15 AM	#27
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 56	We shouldn't have to this silly workaround... what the hell is wrong with ATI/AMD and these drivers? __________________

Oct 23, 2007, 03:48 AM	#28
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	a quick question about drivers of the 7.7 and up....does this affect all AGP cards, or only the x1950pro cards? i wonder because recently i reformatted a friend's machine which had a 9600pro card in it. and for fear of this issue, i put on the 7.6 driver. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Oct 1, 2007, 12:55 AM	#1
JohnDoe47 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 319 Rep Power: 0	Catalyst 7.10 with X1950 AGP support? As above really. Also any word on the release date? I really do hope AMD sort this issue out as we are now 4 months out of date with a modern graphic card. There are a lot of bug fixes and optimizations I would like to get my hand on.

Oct 1, 2007, 10:13 PM	#2
RoyBatty HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,930 Rep Power: 115 System Specs	All good things come to those who wait. But I'm quite up to date, 7.9s work fine for me.

Oct 4, 2007, 09:28 PM	#4
Fekl DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	For me 7.10 betaRC3/RC4 worked perfectly..

Oct 5, 2007, 03:14 AM	#5
dogs0ldier DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: England Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I put the 7.9 drivers on with my x1950Pro and they seemed to work fine. I then noticed the caution notice on the release notes saying that X1950 users should stick with 7.7 until problems are fixed. i took them off just to be safe and went back to the previous omega drivers but i am tempted now to try the latest omega drivers since i had no problems with the 7.9 stock drivers.

Oct 6, 2007, 11:53 AM	#6
BirdDog DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	I really hope that the will support agp in the new release, so we can get our new games like bioshock optimized. When i try to install 7.9, and i reboot, then blue screen. So fix it plz

Oct 12, 2007, 10:21 AM	#7
bman DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Still not working on my x1950 pro agp

Oct 13, 2007, 11:58 AM	#11
bman DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	This one will be a little bit long but i guess it has to be done... Yesterday i had the day off and since i have WIC to play that has some fixes in the latest drivers i decided to try the 7.10 again.... x1950 pro agp on a nforce2 chipset... Old i know, but I have the 7.7 working fine so the latest drivers should work. This is what i tried withe the 7.10 driver package only: First try: - Install the 7.10 over the 7.7 without doing anything else Results: - 2d working fine... direct3d not working. Second try: - Uninstall 7.10 - Install 7.10 Results: - 2d working fine... direct3d not working. Install 7.7 over 7.10 just to check... They worked fine. Third try: - Changed AGP aperture size to 256mb as suggested in other thread. - Uninstall 7.7 - Install 7.10 Results: - 2d working fine... direct3d not working. Last try: - Uninstall 7.10 - Used drivercleaner - Install 7.10 Results: - 2d working fine... direct3d not working. Ran out of options

Oct 16, 2007, 12:26 PM	#19
madant DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	So no DirX tweaks but faster OpenGL... Ah, well, sounds OK since i play ETQW here and there But a little speed for UT3 and WIC would be nice

Oct 17, 2007, 09:48 AM	#21
madant DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Maybe we need a sticky for this specific topic

Oct 18, 2007, 02:44 PM	#23
idinh DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I just installed the 7.10's yesterday following ATI instructions (delete CCC and driver using add/remove programs; reboot pc and installed 7.10) and they work fine so far. I only played some TF2 but had no problems. My vid card is a Visiontek X1950 Pro XGE AGP. I wa previsouly using the 7.7's.

Oct 18, 2007, 03:06 PM	#24
Vengeful#1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	I keep seeing these threads..but the strange thing is im running both my AGP cards (Powercolor X1950 pro & GeCube 9600XT) on the Cat7.10s without any drama's..previously i was using the Cat7.7 and Omega 7.9.1 without any dramas either..

Oct 24, 2007, 10:41 AM	#30
madant DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	It seems DAAMIT is working on something else which has priority at the moment. I would guess drivers for RV670 is the thing, so they are tweaking everything for HD series. It is understandable 'cause they have to get their ass out of the gutter with this new one, but still... Too many AGP cards out there for now, and upgrade time for most AMD users (as for me also) will be when the new AM2+ chipset is out in a few weeks. But if you annoy users with this kind of major error you will turn more than a few heads toward nvidias' new card. Ccc...