Crysis Demo Won't work with ATI 7.10's

ShaKer · Oct 28, 2007, 02:19 PM

I cannot get it to display properly with ATI's 7.10!!! Get all kind of glitches!!! I uninstalled ATI's 7.10's & tried Omega's & it work's!!! What is the problem with ATI's drivers with this?

Zorg · Oct 28, 2007, 08:47 PM

No problems here works absolutely flawless but I read in other forums this driver tends to show problems with overclocked hardware.

Dyre Straits · Oct 29, 2007, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaKer

I cannot get it to display properly with ATI's 7.10!!! Get all kind of glitches!!! I uninstalled ATI's 7.10's & tried Omega's & it work's!!! What is the problem with ATI's drivers with this?

I'm using the official CAT 7.10s here on Vista and an X1950 Pro PCIe card...no problems whatsoever.

AND,that's even with my CPU OC'd from 2.66 to 3.15 GHz.

Game plays flawlessly!

Must be something on your end.

Jerm357 · Oct 29, 2007, 04:47 AM

Works fine for me also.

ShaKer · Oct 29, 2007, 05:19 AM

Well Its fine it works for you all but its not here & its not on this end its on the driver, I uninstalled Omega's & tried ATI's 7.10's same problems! Re-install Omega's it works, so someting in ATI's 7.10 version is not liking my 1900GT!! No overclock here either!

ChaosMinionX · Oct 29, 2007, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaKer

I cannot get it to display properly with ATI's 7.10!!! Get all kind of glitches!!! I uninstalled ATI's 7.10's & tried Omega's & it work's!!! What is the problem with ATI's drivers with this?

What sort of glitches? Like entire system crashes with weird barring across the screen, like something has gone amiss with the memory?

SeanUK · Oct 29, 2007, 06:48 AM

I had the same thing, not long after starting i get yellow checkerboard artifacts all over the screen. even after exiting the game you need to restart to clear them.. I uninstalled 7.10 & tried 7.9 & havent had any since. If you google " crysis demo artifacts" you find that a lot of people are having the same issue, & most of the ones i read were specificaly with the x1950.

Dyre Straits · Oct 29, 2007, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanUK

I had the same thing, not long after starting i get yellow checkerboard artifacts all over the screen. even after exiting the game you need to restart to clear them.. I uninstalled 7.10 & tried 7.9 & havent had any since. If you google " crysis demo artifacts" you find that a lot of people are having the same issue, & most of the ones i read were specificaly with the x1950.

Is this the PCIe or AGP version of the card? I've had nothing of the sort with my own X1950 Pro PCIe card.

The only thing I've really noticed is an occasional 'flash' sort of like someone snap a photo with the flash on. It's very, very brief. And, it actually could be the effects of some enemy shooting at me and missing. So, it's not really what I would call an annoyance or even a bug as it's not repeatable.

SeanUK · Oct 29, 2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

Is this the PCIe or AGP version of the card? I've had nothing of the sort with my own X1950 Pro PCIe card.

The only thing I've really noticed is an occasional 'flash' sort of like someone snap a photo with the flash on. It's very, very brief. And, it actually could be the effects of some enemy shooting at me and missing. So, it's not really what I would call an annoyance or even a bug as it's not repeatable.

It's a PCI-E card. It gave me quite a scare when it first happened, as i thought the card was dying, but i have now played through the demo 5+ times now flawlessly with the 7.9, but with 7.10 the screen fills with artifacts before i even hit the water. Here is What they look like.. "not my screenshot. got it from google" click
Anything i can do to help the ATI guys to replicate the problem... just ask

ShaKer · Oct 29, 2007, 07:55 PM

Mine gets jaggy Diamond spikes or bars all over as not showing textures right, can't see nothing going down out of plane except sky if I look up. When I hit water can only see if I look down at feet when on beach!! I know its a driver problem, cause I can install Omega's 7.10's & all is fine! I haven't tried the 7.9's like SeanUK did but I may. I am having no problems in other games just this one! And I have a lot of new games installed! HL2 ep2, The Witcher, Quake wars, Hellgate London Beta & so forth! I checked Crysis forum & I'm not only one! Many Nvidia people are having same problem unless they use beta drivers Nvidia released in hurry to fix this!! Seems to be hit & miss with certain cards. I hope ATI does the same!

Dyre Straits · Oct 29, 2007, 10:49 PM

Those of you having problems, please use the Catalyst Feedback thread in the Sticky section to report this. I'm sure ATI is already on it.

Stop It · Oct 30, 2007, 10:08 AM

I had a strange issue with the Crysis demo, but only on the Omega 7.10s, the ships at the start were transparent, as were all of the soldiers, the official 7.10s were fine though, specs on the left.

letterboy1 · Nov 15, 2007, 01:01 AM

X1950 here. Tried 7.10 and 7.7 drivers, same problem.

An observation I made is that it happened right after a cutscene. You skydive into the game and it's basically going into a cutscene when that thing hits you and makes you lose your chute. Then you land and get out of the water and shortly after that I get the artifacts all over the screen.

I save the game and go to desk top and the artifacts are still there. I reboot to clear it. Then I go into the game again and continue with no problems. Then it gets to the cutscene where Aztec is hanging dead in his parachute. After Aztec gets vaporized and the cutscene is over, it goes back into normal gameplay and the artifacts return.

Anybody able to duplicate this?

*CATALYSTCATCHER* · Nov 16, 2007, 11:42 AM

Corruption in a pattern usually indicated a problem in the memory. Regular stripes or bars rather than random pixels all over the screen.

The omega driver uses the same core driver files as a catalyst driver with a few defferences. Omega may install the dll or sys files from different Catalyst versions to avoid problems.

Omega driver may and usually has different setting than the Catalyst driver. For example CCC which controls driver settings may be different. Or not installed at all.

Perhaps people are not overclocking, but my guess is that overheating is the first place to check for problems. Particularly for X1900 which normally runs temperatures very close to the limit.

Check GPU temps.

Clean dust from the fins of the GPU heat sink.

Open the case and temporarily use a big fan to cool the GPU.

I hope people know the drill for checking overheat problems?

Finally, tell us more about your system details and configuration.

letterboy1 · Nov 16, 2007, 02:27 PM

My system specs:

Intel D865PERL MoBo
P4 3.4GHz
2 GB Samsung DDR RAM
HIS Radeon x1950 AGP Pro 512 MB w/Cat 7.10 (No OC)
X-Fi Platinum w/latest drivers
Win XP with all updates
..........................................

Titles that I run for hours with no corruption:
Silent Hunter 4 with in-game graphics maxed out and smooth game play. 2xFSAA and 2x AF

Pro Evolution Soccer maxed out w/ 4x FSAA and 4x AF

Bioshock on medium to high settings

Stalker on medium to high settings with in-game 2x FSAA and 2x AF

Catalystcatcher,
the list goes on and on. Now suddenly Crysis craps out on me every time. More and more Radeon AGP users are reporting this (especially x1950). Don't you think that logic would have you look somewhere other than overheating? I have a Radeon x1950 PCIe version at work and it runs Crysis flawlessly. Also, some of your recent driver releases clearly showed problems with AGP . . . at the end of one of your release notes you even made a disclaimer that AGP card users should stay with 7.7 drivers (which I tried with Crysis, but no difference).

I can appreciate your suggestions, and I do follow them . . . my PC stays clean inside and out and I maintain it. But I saw no hint in your post that ATI is even considering the possibility of a driver-related problem. I'll do my part and continue to research and try different things. But please do your part and at least look into it. Too many factors add up to this NOT being an overheating issue . . . unless, as you say, the x1950 series runs too close to the heat tolerance limit . . . in which case the card should be recalled. So which is it?

In any case, thanks for taking the time to check these boards. Have a happy holiday season.

*CATALYSTCATCHER* · Nov 16, 2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by letterboy1

Catalystcatcher,
I can appreciate your suggestions, and I do follow them . . . my PC stays clean inside and out and I maintain it. But I saw no hint in your post that ATI is even considering the possibility of a driver-related problem. I'll do my part and continue to research and try different things. But please do your part and at least look into it. Too many factors add up to this NOT being an overheating issue . . . unless, as you say, the x1950 series runs too close to the heat tolerance limit . . . in which case the card should be recalled. So which is it?

In any case, thanks for taking the time to check these boards. Have a happy holiday season.

Thank you for the details and obviously if your system stays cool running everything else then heat is likely not the issue. However please realize that many people latch onto a thread like this and make a "me to....curse...curse" comment without leaving any decent clues about their system and in many cases their specific graphics card. Also, the neophites may never consider something as simple as overheating. The X1900 runs fairly hot but by no means should it be recalled as they run fine if you have good airflow and keep things clean. Dust, or aging fans can allow overheating to creep up slowly and catch some people off guard.

Therfore, it never hurts to make the simple suggestions and may indeed clear the issues for some.

And I also know there are AGP issues around. Affecting some but not all users. Unfortunately we still do not have a handle on the source of those problems. But you, obviously, do not have the AGP issue as you can run 3D fairly reliably.

Of course we are looking at possible driver issues when something like Crysis or any big game title comes along. The fact that we have a hotfix out for this game indicates we are doing what we can and as quickly as we can.

AMD Customer Care

We may be updating the hotfix driver a few times, until such time as the code changes can be incorporated in the main Catalyst drivers.

One final point I should make to everyone, is that I can not follow all the threads on all the forums, so please take Dyres advice and use do the Catalyst feedback. Then come to the forum and paste the details and comments for others to share/compare etc.

bman · Nov 16, 2007, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CATALYSTCATCHER

And I also know there are AGP issues around. Affecting some but not all users. Unfortunately we still do not have a handle on the source of those problems. But you, obviously, do not have the AGP issue as you can run 3D fairly reliably.

How is it possible that a big company like ATI that has been making drivers for years can't sort this problem in 4 months??? ...

The problem is in the main direct3d file ati3duag.dll and it worked for everyone in the 7.7 version. It seems to be a problem with the nforce2 chipset that i'm sure is still used alot since it was really popular at the time.

Just get a nforce2 board, a AGP card and I'm sure it will be easy to replicate the problem. Then just compare the code between the 7.7 ati3duag.dll and the current ati3duag.dll!

How hard can it be for such experienced programmers?

I'm hangry at ATI... Yes I am... I've been loyal since my trusty 9700 but this is just to much... I bought Crysis and I've just lost money because i can't play it!

ShaKer · Nov 17, 2007, 03:50 PM

Mr ATI Guru can say what he wants but it wont work with 7.10's for me! I now have retail game & it won't work either! There is some kind of problem here with 7.10's & my X1900GT PCIe! I can play any new game I throw at it with no problems! COD4, Quake ET, The Witcher, Beowulf, TimeShift, NFS ProStreet, Gears Of War, Bioshock and I could go on but its pointless!! Is not a problem with my computer!! Its with drivers or driver imlementation with this game! Maybe someone will figure out in 7.11's I hope!

clozak · Nov 17, 2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaKer

Mr ATI Guru can say what he wants but it wont work with 7.10's for me! I now have retail game & it won't work either! There is some kind of problem here with 7.10's & my X1900GT PCIe! I can play any new game I throw at it with no problems! COD4, Quake ET, The Witcher, Beowulf, TimeShift, NFS ProStreet, Gears Of War, Bioshock and I could go on but its pointless!! Is not a problem with my computer!! Its with drivers or driver imlementation with this game! Maybe someone will figure out in 7.11's I hope!

"Also, the neophites may never consider something as simple as overheating."

Notice the attitude and insulting as well. It's one thing to have issues unaddressed for months. It's worse when the consideration supposingly addressing the problems is absent.

ShaKer · Nov 17, 2007, 05:52 PM

OK I tryed the ATI hotfix still a no go!
Pics from 7.10's:

Pics from HotFix:

letterboy1 · Nov 18, 2007, 05:00 PM

Catalystcatcher, thank you for the considerate reply. I have some experience with customer support and can understand the difficulties with keeping up. I appreciate ATI's commitment to tracking down this problem (if it's possible). Have a happy holiday season.

KYPREO · Nov 20, 2007, 04:15 AM

FWIW I have a x1950xt 256mb (PCI-e) @stock clocks with Asus P5B-E and C2D E6400 clocked @3.2Ghz.

I had 7.2 Catalyst and Crysis would have all sorts of display corruption - mainly black banding across whole parts of the screen - but only if I played at resolutions below the desktop resolution. If I selected 1280x1024, it was fine (but obviously lower frame rates).

I installed official catalyst v7.10 and not only is this problem fixed and I can select whatever resolution I want, but performance at all resolutions was increased by about 10-20%.

H82LUZ · Nov 20, 2007, 01:00 PM

Well this something strange,i took the cat 7.10 setup.exe and placed it in the hotfix folder and now the setup error i had is gone...What has changed between the two?

Oct 28, 2007, 02:19 PM	#1
ShaKer DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Caseville, MI Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Crysis Demo Won't work with ATI 7.10's I cannot get it to display properly with ATI's 7.10!!! Get all kind of glitches!!! I uninstalled ATI's 7.10's & tried Omega's & it work's!!! What is the problem with ATI's drivers with this?

Oct 29, 2007, 04:47 AM	#4
Jerm357 HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	Works fine for me also. __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ @ 3.3Ghz XP-90 ASUS M2N32 SLI Deluxe OCZ Platinum Revision2(2x1GB) DDR2 800 ATI Radeon HD 4890 1gb - 930/1050Mhz Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250gb SATAII 3.0Gb/s Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS OCZ GameXStream 600W Alienware Case (old Chieftec style) Klipsch ProMedia ultra 5.1 NEC Multisync FE2111sb

Oct 29, 2007, 06:48 AM	#7
SeanUK DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I had the same thing, not long after starting i get yellow checkerboard artifacts all over the screen. even after exiting the game you need to restart to clear them.. I uninstalled 7.10 & tried 7.9 & havent had any since. If you google " crysis demo artifacts" you find that a lot of people are having the same issue, & most of the ones i read were specificaly with the x1950. __________________

Oct 29, 2007, 07:55 PM	Thread Starter #10
ShaKer DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Caseville, MI Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Mine gets jaggy Diamond spikes or bars all over as not showing textures right, can't see nothing going down out of plane except sky if I look up. When I hit water can only see if I look down at feet when on beach!! I know its a driver problem, cause I can install Omega's 7.10's & all is fine! I haven't tried the 7.9's like SeanUK did but I may. I am having no problems in other games just this one! And I have a lot of new games installed! HL2 ep2, The Witcher, Quake wars, Hellgate London Beta & so forth! I checked Crysis forum & I'm not only one! Many Nvidia people are having same problem unless they use beta drivers Nvidia released in hurry to fix this!! Seems to be hit & miss with certain cards. I hope ATI does the same! Last edited by ShaKer; Oct 29, 2007 at 08:10 PM.

Oct 30, 2007, 10:08 AM	#12
Stop It HHs' Resident Kitty Lover Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Biggleswade, UK Posts: 1,432 Rep Power: 78 System Specs	I had a strange issue with the Crysis demo, but only on the Omega 7.10s, the ships at the start were transparent, as were all of the soldiers, the official 7.10s were fine though, specs on the left. __________________ Sig Courtesy of Mousey

Oct 28, 2007, 08:47 PM	#2
Zorg DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 182 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	No problems here works absolutely flawless but I read in other forums this driver tends to show problems with overclocked hardware.

Oct 29, 2007, 05:19 AM	Thread Starter #5
ShaKer DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Caseville, MI Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Well Its fine it works for you all but its not here & its not on this end its on the driver, I uninstalled Omega's & tried ATI's 7.10's same problems! Re-install Omega's it works, so someting in ATI's 7.10 version is not liking my 1900GT!! No overclock here either!

Nov 15, 2007, 01:01 AM	#13
letterboy1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbus, GA. USA Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	X1950 here. Tried 7.10 and 7.7 drivers, same problem. An observation I made is that it happened right after a cutscene. You skydive into the game and it's basically going into a cutscene when that thing hits you and makes you lose your chute. Then you land and get out of the water and shortly after that I get the artifacts all over the screen. I save the game and go to desk top and the artifacts are still there. I reboot to clear it. Then I go into the game again and continue with no problems. Then it gets to the cutscene where Aztec is hanging dead in his parachute. After Aztec gets vaporized and the cutscene is over, it goes back into normal gameplay and the artifacts return. Anybody able to duplicate this?

Nov 16, 2007, 11:42 AM	#14
CATALYSTCATCHER ATI Guru Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: ATI, Toronto Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	Corruption in a pattern usually indicated a problem in the memory. Regular stripes or bars rather than random pixels all over the screen. The omega driver uses the same core driver files as a catalyst driver with a few defferences. Omega may install the dll or sys files from different Catalyst versions to avoid problems. Omega driver may and usually has different setting than the Catalyst driver. For example CCC which controls driver settings may be different. Or not installed at all. Perhaps people are not overclocking, but my guess is that overheating is the first place to check for problems. Particularly for X1900 which normally runs temperatures very close to the limit. Check GPU temps. Clean dust from the fins of the GPU heat sink. Open the case and temporarily use a big fan to cool the GPU. I hope people know the drill for checking overheat problems? Finally, tell us more about your system details and configuration.

Nov 16, 2007, 02:27 PM	#15
letterboy1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbus, GA. USA Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	My system specs: Intel D865PERL MoBo P4 3.4GHz 2 GB Samsung DDR RAM HIS Radeon x1950 AGP Pro 512 MB w/Cat 7.10 (No OC) X-Fi Platinum w/latest drivers Win XP with all updates .......................................... Titles that I run for hours with no corruption: Silent Hunter 4 with in-game graphics maxed out and smooth game play. 2xFSAA and 2x AF Pro Evolution Soccer maxed out w/ 4x FSAA and 4x AF Bioshock on medium to high settings Stalker on medium to high settings with in-game 2x FSAA and 2x AF Catalystcatcher, the list goes on and on. Now suddenly Crysis craps out on me every time. More and more Radeon AGP users are reporting this (especially x1950). Don't you think that logic would have you look somewhere other than overheating? I have a Radeon x1950 PCIe version at work and it runs Crysis flawlessly. Also, some of your recent driver releases clearly showed problems with AGP . . . at the end of one of your release notes you even made a disclaimer that AGP card users should stay with 7.7 drivers (which I tried with Crysis, but no difference). I can appreciate your suggestions, and I do follow them . . . my PC stays clean inside and out and I maintain it. But I saw no hint in your post that ATI is even considering the possibility of a driver-related problem. I'll do my part and continue to research and try different things. But please do your part and at least look into it. Too many factors add up to this NOT being an overheating issue . . . unless, as you say, the x1950 series runs too close to the heat tolerance limit . . . in which case the card should be recalled. So which is it? In any case, thanks for taking the time to check these boards. Have a happy holiday season.

Nov 17, 2007, 03:50 PM	Thread Starter #18
ShaKer DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Caseville, MI Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Mr ATI Guru can say what he wants but it wont work with 7.10's for me! I now have retail game & it won't work either! There is some kind of problem here with 7.10's & my X1900GT PCIe! I can play any new game I throw at it with no problems! COD4, Quake ET, The Witcher, Beowulf, TimeShift, NFS ProStreet, Gears Of War, Bioshock and I could go on but its pointless!! Is not a problem with my computer!! Its with drivers or driver imlementation with this game! Maybe someone will figure out in 7.11's I hope!

Nov 17, 2007, 05:52 PM	Thread Starter #20
ShaKer DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Caseville, MI Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	OK I tryed the ATI hotfix still a no go! Pics from 7.10's: Pics from HotFix:

Nov 18, 2007, 05:00 PM	#21
letterboy1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbus, GA. USA Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Catalystcatcher, thank you for the considerate reply. I have some experience with customer support and can understand the difficulties with keeping up. I appreciate ATI's commitment to tracking down this problem (if it's possible). Have a happy holiday season.

Nov 20, 2007, 04:15 AM	#22
KYPREO DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 62 Rep Power: 0	FWIW I have a x1950xt 256mb (PCI-e) @stock clocks with Asus P5B-E and C2D E6400 clocked @3.2Ghz. I had 7.2 Catalyst and Crysis would have all sorts of display corruption - mainly black banding across whole parts of the screen - but only if I played at resolutions below the desktop resolution. If I selected 1280x1024, it was fine (but obviously lower frame rates). I installed official catalyst v7.10 and not only is this problem fixed and I can select whatever resolution I want, but performance at all resolutions was increased by about 10-20%. __________________ Asus A2D notebook AMD XP-M 2800+ 512MB PC2700 RAM ATI Mobility Radeon 9600Pro/64mb dedicated DDR (stock = 350/180)

Nov 20, 2007, 01:00 PM	#23
H82LUZ HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cobourg ,Ontario ,Canada Posts: 114 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	Well this something strange,i took the cat 7.10 setup.exe and placed it in the hotfix folder and now the setup error i had is gone...What has changed between the two? __________________