soldi

I have samsung 206bw monitor connected to card dvi cable, why I dont have
"Scale image - maintain aspect ratio" option in driver perferences.

samsung 206bw
radeon x1950pro
driver: catalyst 7.10

Dyre Straits

Welcome to DriverHeaven!

What version of Windows?

What version of X1950Pro? AGP? PCIe?

Catalyst 7.10 Official drivers or Omegadrivers? Or?

Have you tried installing the drivers under Safemode?

We need more information, please.

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soldi

OS: Windows xp sp2
Card: Powercolor x1950pro 512mb AGP
Driver: Official Catalyst 7.10

Dyre Straits

Thanks for quickly providing the additional information.

Since you're using an AGP version of the video card, there have been several issues with these cards since Catalyst version 7.7. Try a version based on Catalyst 7.6 and see if the issue remains. If this fixes the problem, it would be a good idea to use the Catalyst Feedback program to give ATI/AMD information about the issue.

There have been a few users of AGP cards that can use the CAT 7.10s. But, it seems to be spotty at this time.

Good luck!

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soldi

Unfortunately downgrade driver to 7.6 nothing fixed, i still don't have "scale image - maintain aspect ratio" options in CCC perferences

temeteus82

Hmm... It should be located in the Digital Panel / Attributes
Now this is weird.

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soldi

In Digital Panel / Attributes I have only 2 options "scale image to full panel size" and "Use centered timings", centered timings not work too

I reinstall windows, but this not give anything, still option maintain aspect ratio missing

crack1up

I am running an Raedon X1600 Pro 512 AGP with the same monitor x DVI and the only 2 options I have ever had are under the Digital Panel (DVI) 3 Attributes/Image Scaling are: Scale image to full panel size and Use centered timings. The maintain aspect ratio would be nice to have.

temeteus82

May I ask why you need this option?? Because I started thinking that there hasn't been such option in CCC as far as I recall.

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RoyBatty

Isn't the "scale image to full panel size" the option you are looking for? It should keep the image size regardless of the panel size (eg. on LCD with 1280x1024 resolution the 1280x960 image is displayed as 1280x960 with black borders instead of filling the screen).
But this option has no effect on my PC...

soldi

This is my first ati card, I have a widescreen monitor and when I'm trying to set some 4:3 resolution (for example 800x600 or 1024x768) the picture is unnaturally stretched. Searching some web forums I found that Catalyst Control Center has an option to maintain aspect ratio but I don't see this option under Digital Panel -> Attributes -> Image scalling. Instead of three there are only two options: 'scale image to full panel size' and 'use centered timings'. Previously I had an nVidia card and there weren't such problems because nVidia driver was able to scale picture with correct aspect ratio. Why ati driver does not have this option?

temeteus82

I think that the option you are looking for is use the centered timings, but for some reason it won't work, at least I haven't had it to work. I recommend to send some feedback to ati's catalyst crew.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-...k-program.html

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Dyre Straits

I would recommend you try the Ray Adam's ATI Tray Tool. With this installed, there is an option to 'maintain aspect ratio'.

You can get the latest version here: NGOHQ.com

Just go to Files, Tweakers and Overclockers and scroll down the list to ATI Tray Tools.

Once it's installed and running, right click on the Tray Icon, hover over Display move over and click on Settings.

On your active monitor, there are two buttons: DDC and Options. Select Options.

A Display Properties screen appears. Select the Advanced tab.

Under Adjustments, you have four options. As long as your system supports them, they will be active. Otherwise, if your system is not setup properly or does not support these options, they will be grayed out.

Good luck!

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RoyBatty

You're right Dyre. I didn't notice that option before. It's there but it's grayed out on my system.

belinda

hi Dyre Straits,
what do you mean with not setup properly or not supported? i only can enable "scale image to panel size", all others are greyed out. i thought it's a driver feature, e.g. the driver is taking the 1280x1024 image, putting some black borders on all four sides and spits out a 1680x1050 image with correct ratio to the display.

@ soldi
if you need 4:3 or 5:4 resolutions for some games, maybe you should check the widescreen gaming forum. they have some tricks and hacks to apply widescreen resolutions to games without native widescreen support.

soldi

@ belinda
I like playing in old games as Grim Fandango / Monkey Island series he works 640x480 or 800x800 resolutions and driver ati don't scaling them to 4:3 size.

I noticed that he scaling to 4:3 in the resolution 1400x1050, 1360x1020 and 1360x1024 as different don't know I tested this in warcraft 3, but 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x760 already not scaling.

Dyre Straits

The driver will only support what the hardware is capable of doing. And, if the cable/connection is not the proper one it also will not provide support for the function.

Example: All ATI cards support TV OUT. BUT, if you don't have a live connection to the TV, that option will not work. You have to have the connections/setup for the feature in order to use it.

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belinda

makes sense to me, but why are these options greyed out with my samsung 205bw connected via dvi cable to the gfx card. i do know that the samsung 205bw is not capable of anything except stretching any resolution to native panel size. so in my opinion the sense of a ratio correct scaling feature built to the driver and its tools is to bypass the lacking support on the monitor side. the gfx card/driver should take the rendered image (e.g. 800x600) and either
- fill it up with black borders and send a correct 1680x1050 image to the display
or
- strech the image ratio correct (e.g. 1400x1050) and fill up the rest with black pixels to send it to the display

so no need for the display electronic to interpolate and stretch the image. as far as i know this works very good with modern nvidia gfx solutions. but why its not working for me.
- is my his x1950 pro agp not capable of this feature?
- is omega's cat 7.7 agp compatibility solution the problem here?
- is ati tray tools v1.3.6.1064 not capable of this with my hardware/this cat version?
- is my dvi cable broken?
- am i just too stupid to set it up properly?

i would really like to find a solution for this, many thanks in advance for any help and ideas

ncp10

This is a defect with the CCC and ATI drivers, and the Omega drivers and ATI Tray Tools--or perhaps it's just a defect with Radeon cards. If you have an LCD your monitor it will always stretch the image. For some reason the option is a choice on my machine but selecting it does not result in an 800x600 not being fully stretched to fill the screen. No problem with nV getting this right--it's yet another ATI driver defect. I have read in other forums that its your monitor's fault for not retaining the source output, but again, not so with nV drivers/cards.

belinda

damn