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@CATALYSTCATCHER
Any idea what's causing the text rendering problems such as seen at windows bootup at the welcome screen and in various other applications? The problem first reared it's head with the 7.12's and now carried over to the 8.1's. I know it's a driver issue because when I revert back to the 7.11's or earlier it disappears. If it was only a dot in the corner I could live with that. If you want my full system specs I'm more than willing to provide them but I'm seeing the same thing on my other PC which is a totally different configuration, this one using a HD3870 and the other a HD2600XT. The only thing they have in common is both connect via DVI and use a 22" flat panel monitor of different manufacturers. |
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Never mind I do see white big white dot upper left on my LCD HDTV screen 19inch widescreen. lol
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First, i want to thanks ATI for that new version of the catalysts. I begin to see the true potential of my brand new card, and it is a real pleasure after days of troubles. The hotfix is working for me, but is quite unstable. It depends of the game or application i use
(thats normal, i know )I'll just send a report to the catalyst crew, and hope they will take care of it. But, finally, i see reals improvements, so : keep going! I always loved ATI ![]() EDIT : it is done, i reported all issues i found in all wide spread engines (Source, Unreal, Lithtech, ...) Last edited by Satan2k; Jan 18, 2008 at 06:00 AM. |
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Hydravision where?
The readme says it is included in the driver. now, where can I enable the semi-opaque windows explorer background? |
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So we need some system details (HW) and also software and system configuration details. Then look at how you have set Windows up with regard to fonts, font size, and other cosmetic stuff in Windows. It is also a good idea to try disabling applications on you system to see if one of them can be linked to the text issues you describe. Let us know if you find another clue. Thanks CC |
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The issue showed up on my system which had had a fresh install of Windows XP SP2 - where I had only installed 7.12 (with CCC). Then on release of 8.1 I followed the uninstall of 7.12 and install of 8.1 instructions. I'm using an old ProLine 17" LCD (analogue screen) running @ 1280x1024 @ 75Hz... The only other stuff loading into the systen tray is Kaspersky and Creative Volume Control Panel.
My main reason for raising the 'white square' was that I was initially worried that I'd damaged the card as on rebooting my PC, following the initial 8.1 installation, I had shutdown and replaced some cabling.... Last edited by xander73; Jan 18, 2008 at 04:25 PM. Reason: more info and typos |
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I know what you mean and I don`t see the need to have it open in the taskbar anyways. I personally don`t.
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Catalystcatcher, what is this color-problem?
Look here: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-...ml#post1118529 Some screenshots: http://artifex.my-lsl.net/ati/ati_1.JPG http://artifex.my-lsl.net/ati/ati_2.JPG http://artifex.my-lsl.net/ati/ati_3.JPG (compare this screenshot with your view of the gamestar-website) |
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Here's a shot I took of yours with my own view of the website at the bottom.....
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Yes, and there it is... look at the Color of the Links at Gamestar: They are brown. Look at the highlighted Links on the google Screenshot: They are red. And these Colors are NOT because I already clicked them before. They look different with 7.11.
And on the Screenshot with the title bar (its very hard to see) the shadow of the Text is orange. EDIT: Here a better Screenshot: http://artifex.my-lsl.net/ati/title_orange.bmp (the first is my title bar, the second the title bar of a friend of mine) Last edited by Artificial; Jan 18, 2008 at 10:53 PM. |
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Just so to make it clear these issues do exist. I just finished a clean install of XP Pro and installed the drivers only and ran right into it. Now it does appear that enabling clear type fixes the problem though I'd rather not have to. A few screen shots here to show the difference.
http://home.neo.rr.com/kayfam/Driver...artype-off.JPG http://home.neo.rr.com/kayfam/Driver...eartype-on.JPG http://home.neo.rr.com/kayfam/Driver...type-off-2.JPG http://home.neo.rr.com/kayfam/Driver...rtype-on-2.JPG Notice the white or blue text appearing reddish brown with clear type off. As I promised CATALYSTCATCHER my full sustem specs, Motherboard: Abit IP35-Pro Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz RAM: 2GB Crucial DDR2 800 Graphics: Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 512MB Monitor: 22" Gateway FPD2275W connected via DVI Sound: HT Omega Clario HDD: Western Digital 250GB x 2 running in AHCI mode DVD-ROM: Pioneer DVR-112D, Samsung SH-S202G If any more info is required please let me know. Last edited by kayfam; Jan 19, 2008 at 12:09 AM. Reason: updated specs |
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I have the same problem since the first day using a wide screen monitor. I think that is a problem with the fonts in use. TTF fonts always display flawless - not so with other font types.
I see this problem mostly when installing software - the installer's font display frequently expose this problem (coloured shadow). There is another related problem for example that the Arial font displays significantly smaller on a large wide screen than on an 4:3 monitor. The 10pt Arial on my 22" monitor looks like a 8pt size but Verdana displays absolutely fine in all sizes. I think there is something generally wrong with the font mapping on wide screens causing all these issues. Last edited by Max59; Jan 19, 2008 at 12:59 AM. |
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I do have a 19' CRT.
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Haulin' game doens't work with new 8.1 drivers can someone make sure of it? I load the game then crash to the desktop back to 7.11 drivers for me. I do have AGP hot fix installed.
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Well I have only had my system a week and I have had 3 instances where I have been web browsing and my Samsung went completely green with vertical bands?
I have been able to reproduce this issue with both the Catalyst 7.12's and the new 8.1's. I have also had it occur with the 0505 and 0802 BIOS for my mobo. Oddly enough the system appears to running rock solid in games. All 3 occurences happened web browsing when the card throttles back and running on a single? Still new to the whole Crossfire thing, what I do know is I bought top of the line parts and these 3 lockups are more than I have had in the last 3 years? |
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If you are using a PLASMA DISPLAY PANEL as the display, you risk image burn, especially since this is a pure white dot about 4 pixels wide. Even with an animated background, the white dot stays on top...
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i can clearly see the problem he has and now i will post the same problem if you dont notice the difference then replace either your monitor or your vga.. how it is: http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4261/secondem2.jpg how it should be: http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/352/firstvj1.jpg how it is: http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2244/first1ub1.jpg how it should be: http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7413/second2yz5.jpg those links change their color back to default if i select them with my mouse that bug has appeared with drivers 7.12 i did a clean install of drivers (using driver cleaner to remove 7.11 drivers) that bug does not appear in IE7 where i have clear type enabled it does appear in opera and windows in general where clear type is disabled so please dont go around saying its people's fault when it isnt many people report still having the same problem in new 8.1 drivers i dont see how this bug can go undetected with ATI people for2 driver revisions.. my configuration: club 3d HD3870, win xp sp2 pro, LG 20.1" LCD (connected via DVI), 7.12 official ati drivers + CCC btw i didnt OC anything, everything is at stock speeds and my GPU temp doesnt go over 40C in IDLE and 78C in LOAD Last edited by Fanu; Jan 20, 2008 at 07:15 PM. |
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I can tell you it isn't. If you would had look of the post that I've quoted and the link to the image I said that I don't see any difference in it. Color configuration is sRGB and Windows has the color profile in use.
[EDIT] After downloading the bmp file. I took a better look at it and yeah the white has some shades of orange. And after my original post I've seen the issue clearly! And I didn't say at the first place that the issue isn't there. Last edited by temeteus82; Jan 20, 2008 at 07:37 PM. Reason: edit added |
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Bickering over this is pointless. It's obvious that some of us are experiencing the issue and others not. Finding the common thread is the main thing.
I request that one of the moderators here move this post and all others related to these color issues to it's own separate thread and make it sticky. A quote from a poster over at Rage3d that might shed some light on this: Quote:
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Haulin' game doesn't work with this driver set Terry back cat's 7.11 for me.
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Nevermind, already mentioned
Last edited by X1800XTTOP; Jan 21, 2008 at 11:42 AM. Reason: posted wihtout reading.. silly me -.- |
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8.1 installed with no AGP problems on my Raedon x1600 Pro 512 AGP. Did not need to install the hotfix drivers at all. Guess I'm lucky this month.
Although, in the cat feedback I sent for the 7.12 failed driver install, I asked for them to tell the AMD receptionist in charge of the driver updates to include my card for next month. LOL |
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x2 4200+ 2G ddr400 x1950gt agp I installed 8.1 hotfix drivers a few days ago and I'm very satisfied to these drivers. Everything is working just perfect. Thanks for that. But when should we expect omega drivers based on 8.1? |
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I can't say I'm happy with 8.1 at all.
First of all I had a huge drop in performance with the OpenGL game I mostly play, WWIIOnline. In some points I lost about 50% of the FPS compared to the 7.10 driver I had installed before. Second I had a strange effect with 3DMark06. It reports after the test a very small increase , from 2549 to 2559, but when I sit and watch it it is definately not as smooth as with the older driver. I reverted back to 7.10 and all was well again. I guess this isn't a good driver for the old X850 series cards. I haven't tried the hotfix since I gathered that was only for those who had problems with getting the drivers to work on AGP cards, I'm one of those AGP users who have never had that issue. |
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The white dot does happen in analog too. But it only takes up at total of 4 pixel by 4
pixel square depending on your resolution. I'm thinking some people may have their monitor adjusted such that its off screen. That and if you open an application full screen/full screen window it disappears so unless people stare at their blank desktop then I dunno what the big deal is .You can disable the CCC tray app if it annoys you too much... As for the text color issue clear type on/off makes no difference Quote:
I'm reading it not happening . Must be another set of conditions in play... I've found those conditions! You must have font edge smoothing ON, set to standard set to clear type or font edge smoothing off gives no issue.
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I hope the text discoloration will be fixed ASAP, or at least before the next Catalyst release. I'm sure a lot of people (myself, included) can't stand Windows XP with ClearType font smoothing enabled, or font smoothing completely disabled due to custom fonts (that look bad with ClearType on, or standard font smoothing disabled) or other conditions.
In addition, I can confirm everything looks fine and dandy on version 7.11. I'm using these while waiting for the next release. Last edited by nookadum; Jan 26, 2008 at 07:06 PM. Reason: In addition... |
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