AHHHHHH am i the only one? when i installed 3.4 cats GTA VCs Main Menu Is all Phucked

ViRuS2k · May 16, 2003, 12:51 AM

I was realy looking forward to seeing the new AA and AF performace in GTA VC but to not even be able to get into the game
thats bloody annoying.

what the hell am i the only one with this problem ? omega`s 3.2 cats worked fine ????

olefarte · May 16, 2003, 01:09 AM

I went back to 3.2. To much stuttering and pausing. Even 2D wasn't good.

ViRuS2k · May 16, 2003, 01:24 AM

well this is very dissapointing.

oldefarte your name sounds fimilure ?

i dont phucking understand how something that ran good with 3.2 cats and you change to 3.4 expecting things to stay the same or even better. but this isnt the case.

im going back aswell all this PISSING about and WAITING on drivers that dont work in a game you play all the time. PFFT.

ViRuS2k · May 16, 2003, 01:33 AM

ok fucking menu bug ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

sorry for the launguage but ffs

just reinstalled gta vc but the bug is still there i alt+tab out of the game then clicked the link and for some reason that fixed it the menu showed up...... hmmm so i did it again and it crashed my hold system with a BLUESCREEN OF DEATH i have never seen one of those in agessssssss

the error was from this file.

ati3dutg.dll

ATI PULL YOUR FINGER OUT.... at the minute to me your to slow and your drivers have more problems than ever,

megatron · May 16, 2003, 01:46 AM

Just over at rage3d and they were saying build the textures again and delete the gta.set file in C:\userfiles\my docs

Set the draw distance to normal.

Some people were okay with it. I don't have the game yet, but I did go to PC world and they didn't have it! Gonna order it online.

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33685808
Rage 3d is very flakey at the moment!

Something about framelimiter too.

olefarte · May 16, 2003, 01:48 AM

I tried again and it was screwed up worse than the first time. Maybe it's just me. I'm trying IGI 2 and SOF II, it really stutters, or at least I guess that's what you'd call it, a pause every 2 or 3 seconds. Plus even when on the net, with IE, the scrolling is very rough.

ViRuS2k · May 16, 2003, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by megatron
Just over at rage3d and they were saying build the textures again and delete the gta.set file in C:\userfiles\my docs

Set the draw distance to normal.

Some people were okay with it. I don't have the game yet, but I did go to PC world and they didn't have it! Gonna order it online.

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33685808
Rage 3d is very flakey at the moment!

Something about framelimiter too.

OMFG man you are a genious LOL

the menu is totaly fixed now and all i had to do was delete a file in my user data in my documents gta vc folder called :gta_vc.set

dam lol what is this file ? is it a user data catche file ? if it is then that explaines the reason for the menu corruption .

still again mate you are a genious LOL

thankyou!...............

hmmmm i think i have to appologise to ATI sorry guys for ever doughting ya`s.

Novad · May 16, 2003, 02:15 AM

Unfortunately, that didn't work completely. The main menu works, but ingame the textures tend to corrupt. Ultimately trying to exit the game results in a BSOD.

Gonna sleep now, maybe tommorow more news about this prob.

El_Coyote · May 16, 2003, 02:22 AM

GTA: VC runs fine.. pnly problem is that i cant force AA if my life depended on it... same issue all across the board

ViRuS2k · May 16, 2003, 02:28 AM

Novad yeah i just figured that one out ahhhhhhhhhhh

===============================

i take back what i said about the drivers.

they do fucking suck ass......................

ATI Stop pissing about your fixes have fucked up perfectly working games from the previous release.
this is getting rediculess.

here is a screen shot from ingame the texture drawing sucks and i got a BSOD from a file ati3dsomething.dll the name is above in my previous posts

ok here is the image...

if you cant view this or its a red X copy and paste into your address bar.

=====================================

as i said above these drivers are worse than the previous 3.2`s with this game becuse 3.2 was working perfectly
im going back to 3.2`s untill this shit is fixed. {bad bad ati lol}

digitalwanderer · May 16, 2003, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ViRuS2k
the menu is totaly fixed now and all i had to do was delete a file in my user data in my documents gta vc folder called :gta_vc.set

dam lol what is this file ? is it a user data catche file ? if it is then that explaines the reason for the menu corruption .

You are correct, it's all your user settings. Mainly video, audio, & control...but something from the driver version you're using must be stored there too because I ALWAYS had that problem with the old GTA3 too whenever I'd change drivers.

It ain't just ATi, it happens to nVidia users too. You gotta delete that file and re-enter your settings in GTA3 each time you change your drivers.

ViRuS2k · May 16, 2003, 02:37 AM

digitalwanderer

look up at my previous post mate.

i very much dought NVIDIA cards have these problems.

**G.I.BRO** · May 16, 2003, 03:47 AM

The newest cards of nvidia have more issues.
Go take a look at their threads at various forums...

ViRuS2k · May 16, 2003, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by **G.I.BRO**
The newest cards of nvidia have more issues.
Go take a look at their threads at various forums...

tell me this though mate it must be ATI at fault here

the game worked perfect with omega`s 3.2 cats but now with 3.4 cats everything is messed up curruption in main menu worse corruption in game.

this has to be a ati problem becuse there previous drivers worked so why dont these drivers work ?

**G.I.BRO** · May 16, 2003, 04:09 AM

hard to say, but for the many PCs that i seen this game run on, the game has been running fine. VERY few people have this issue... people who are running ATi that is. Nvidia still has (so far from what i have read over the past few days) more issues. Even on my lil'R100 32 megger, the game looks fine.

Like i said before, there will never be a driver that will be perfect on EVERYONES machine. That will just never happen... Especially the way the PC industry is today.

What card are you using?
8500 or 9700?

Vengeance · May 16, 2003, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ViRuS2k
tell me this though mate it must be ATI at fault here

the game worked perfect with omega`s 3.2 cats but now with 3.4 cats everything is messed up curruption in main menu worse corruption in game.

this has to be a ati problem becuse there previous drivers worked so why dont these drivers work ?

Then go bad to the Omegas "Mate"! Thats the smart thing to do, If your game worked "perfect" with omega stay with it.
I'm useing the 3.4s and it works fine. The only problem I have with them is I didnt get a speed boost. But so far in my games there good.

peroni · May 16, 2003, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ViRuS2k

i take back what i said about the drivers.

they do fucking suck ass......................
................ATI Stop pissing about your fixes have fucked up perfectly working games from the previous release.
this is getting rediculess.
as i said above these drivers are worse than the previous 3.2`s with this game becuse 3.2 was working perfectly
im going back to 3.2`s untill this shit is fixed. {bad bad ati lol}

You want to moderate your language!
And give some details of the card/comp you are using if you really want some help instead of moaning endlessly.

henhowc · May 16, 2003, 07:12 AM

runs the same after installing 3.4s for me

jjjayb · May 16, 2003, 08:28 AM

Read the readme file that came with the game. From the readme:

Changing hardware / re-initialization:
Changing either your video card or soundcard may mean that you get Grand Theft Auto:
Vice City into an "invalid" settings state for the particular hardware. If you change
hardware, to prevent having to un-install and re-install Grand Theft Auto: Vice City,
perform the following:-
Video card:-
- delete from the "Grand Theft Auto Vice City/models" directory the files
"TXD.DIR" and "TXD.IMG" (if they exist)
- delete from the "Grand Theft Auto Vice City/data" directory the file
"CAPS.DAT"
- delete from the "Documents and Settings/Current logged-in User/
My Documents/GTA Vice City User Files" directory the "GTA_VC.SET" file.

digitalwanderer · May 16, 2003, 02:40 PM

Oh sure, go cheat and read the "readme"....

Great find, that does sound like it should fix up the texture problem nicely. Methinks I'm gonna be parroting this fix all over today/this weekend.

Thank you!

Quote:

Originally posted by jjjayb
Read the readme file that came with the game. From the readme:

Changing hardware / re-initialization:
Changing either your video card or soundcard may mean that you get Grand Theft Auto:
Vice City into an "invalid" settings state for the particular hardware. If you change
hardware, to prevent having to un-install and re-install Grand Theft Auto: Vice City,
perform the following:-
Video card:-
- delete from the "Grand Theft Auto Vice City/models" directory the files
"TXD.DIR" and "TXD.IMG" (if they exist)
- delete from the "Grand Theft Auto Vice City/data" directory the file
"CAPS.DAT"
- delete from the "Documents and Settings/Current logged-in User/
My Documents/GTA Vice City User Files" directory the "GTA_VC.SET" file.

patje · May 16, 2003, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digitalwanderer
Oh sure, go cheat and read the "readme"....

Great find, that does sound like it should fix up the texture problem nicely. Methinks I'm gonna be parroting this fix all over today/this weekend.

Thank you!

And that's how he is getting all these votes as most dedicated site member

(digi, j/k) you deserve that Mug (or key chain or whatever you'll get)

digitalwanderer · May 16, 2003, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by patje
And that's how he is getting all these votes as most dedicated site member

(digi, j/k) you deserve that Mug (or key chain or whatever you'll get)

You jest, but there's an arwful lot of truth in what ya say. The biggest trick to helping people with their PC problems is getting used to writing the same thing a couple of hundred times and not getting annoyed at the same questions over & over & over & over.

I swear I'm just a parrot most of the time, but it seems to get the job done.

thor777 · May 16, 2003, 05:02 PM

I did a clean uninstall of the Omega 3.2, and installed 3.4 yesterday. 3DMark2003 did get a 200-300 point gain. But now my GTA Vice City wont work at all. I click on the shortcut and nothing happens. Program doesn't appear in task manager, all I get is the hourglass mouse pointer for like 2 seconds then nothing. Does anyone else have this problem?? Someone please help!

ViRuS2k · May 16, 2003, 05:27 PM

My system is

Winxp Pro Sp1
Amd xp 2200+
Ati 9700 Pro
512 DDR Cosiar pc2700
DX 9.0a
===========================

i have uninstalled and reinstalled the game that didnt work.
i have deleted the file in my gta_vc.set that did the trick the game did load and the menu was fixed

and if i started a game then it would work but it would look like shit

the minute the problems start is when i turn frame limit OFF and i bump up the draw distance.

now with the 3.2s this wasnt a ishue i could turn frame limit off and max the draw distance and everything was nice .

but with 3.4 i cant do that or i get a load of coruption ingame and then i get a bsod from a ati3d dll file....

digitalwanderer · May 16, 2003, 05:35 PM

thor777 & ViRuS2k: Did you guess both follow that tip from the readme file to the letter and do all the steps? Never mind if you re-installed for right now, did ya delete ALL the things they said? (Un-installs do NOT always delete what needs deleting to fix it.

)

I've heard of a LOT of people having trouble with the new drivers & nVidia cards...but in fairness to nVidia it really does seem that the majority of the peeps having problems can fix them too with the same fix, with the exception of the 5200 peeps. There seems to be a real bug with the latest FX drivers, GTA:VC, & the 5200 series that no one has found a cure for yet.

I wish I could help ya more with the ATi problem, but I can't right now.

thor777 · May 16, 2003, 05:41 PM

I checked for the files to delete, but I dont have any of them in those folders...

I'm going to try using Omega drivers later today, hope this will solve it *crosses fingers*

tek · May 16, 2003, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digitalwanderer
thor777 & ViRuS2k: Did you guess both follow that tip from the readme file to the letter and do all the steps? Never mind if you re-installed for right now, did ya delete ALL the things they said? (Un-installs do NOT always delete what needs deleting to fix it. )

I've heard of a LOT of people having trouble with the new drivers & nVidia cards...but in fairness to nVidia it really does seem that the majority of the peeps having problems can fix them too with the same fix, with the exception of the 5200 peeps. There seems to be a real bug with the latest FX drivers, GTA:VC, & the 5200 series that no one has found a cure for yet.

I wish I could help ya more with the ATi problem, but I can't right now.

I'm one of those 5200 retards...... =/
btw.. vc wont even start when i have omega drivers installed

ViRuS2k · May 16, 2003, 07:46 PM

Well i have figured my problem out with the new drivers down to a tee...,

the problem is simple. ENABLE FRAME LIMIT and there is no problems at all.

Turn FRAME LIMIT OFF and you get Corruption Galoure....

================================================== =====

Untill this is fixed im gonna have to have it ON DAM becuse i like the performance i get with em

im at 1280x1040 6aa 16af = smooth at ice though its even smoother with frame limit OFF but what the hell i can still play it right :P

so guys if you have problems then i think the no1 cause is frame limit OFF

digitalwanderer · May 16, 2003, 08:25 PM

Cool, more fixes! Thanks for sharing, it should help a lot of people.

megatron · May 16, 2003, 08:30 PM

I have the game now, and it runs sweet. Installed after installing cat 3.4. I ran it at 1600 * 1200 4 * AA 16 * AF - low 45 avg 75 fps.

I am going to put it at 1024 * 768 so I get a clean 100fps. It may give 100fps at high res I don't know. It is definately the a better state of game engine than gta3!

May 16, 2003, 12:51 AM	#1
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	AHHHHHH am i the only one? when i installed 3.4 cats GTA VCs Main Menu Is all Phucked I was realy looking forward to seeing the new AA and AF performace in GTA VC but to not even be able to get into the game thats bloody annoying. what the hell am i the only one with this problem ? omega`s 3.2 cats worked fine ????

May 16, 2003, 01:46 AM	#5
megatron DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	Just over at rage3d and they were saying build the textures again and delete the gta.set file in C:\userfiles\my docs Set the draw distance to normal. Some people were okay with it. I don't have the game yet, but I did go to PC world and they didn't have it! Gonna order it online. http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33685808 Rage 3d is very flakey at the moment! Something about framelimiter too. __________________ My system specs and 3dmark2001se score Rad8500 bioses, UT2k3, GTA3 pages & more. Also watercooling endeavours.

May 16, 2003, 02:22 AM	#9
El_Coyote DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	GTA: VC runs fine.. pnly problem is that i cant force AA if my life depended on it... same issue all across the board __________________ Warp2Search.net Newsie

May 16, 2003, 05:35 PM	#25
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	thor777 & ViRuS2k: Did you guess both follow that tip from the readme file to the letter and do all the steps? Never mind if you re-installed for right now, did ya delete ALL the things they said? (Un-installs do NOT always delete what needs deleting to fix it. ) I've heard of a LOT of people having trouble with the new drivers & nVidia cards...but in fairness to nVidia it really does seem that the majority of the peeps having problems can fix them too with the same fix, with the exception of the 5200 peeps. There seems to be a real bug with the latest FX drivers, GTA:VC, & the 5200 series that no one has found a cure for yet. I wish I could help ya more with the ATi problem, but I can't right now. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

May 16, 2003, 08:25 PM	#29
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	Thanks! Cool, more fixes! Thanks for sharing, it should help a lot of people. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

May 16, 2003, 01:09 AM	#2
olefarte DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	I went back to 3.2. To much stuttering and pausing. Even 2D wasn't good.

May 16, 2003, 01:24 AM	Thread Starter #3
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	well this is very dissapointing. oldefarte your name sounds fimilure ? i dont phucking understand how something that ran good with 3.2 cats and you change to 3.4 expecting things to stay the same or even better. but this isnt the case. im going back aswell all this PISSING about and WAITING on drivers that dont work in a game you play all the time. PFFT.

May 16, 2003, 01:33 AM	Thread Starter #4
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	ok fucking menu bug ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry for the launguage but ffs just reinstalled gta vc but the bug is still there i alt+tab out of the game then clicked the link and for some reason that fixed it the menu showed up...... hmmm so i did it again and it crashed my hold system with a BLUESCREEN OF DEATH i have never seen one of those in agessssssss the error was from this file. ati3dutg.dll ATI PULL YOUR FINGER OUT.... at the minute to me your to slow and your drivers have more problems than ever,

May 16, 2003, 01:48 AM	#6
olefarte DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	I tried again and it was screwed up worse than the first time. Maybe it's just me. I'm trying IGI 2 and SOF II, it really stutters, or at least I guess that's what you'd call it, a pause every 2 or 3 seconds. Plus even when on the net, with IE, the scrolling is very rough.

May 16, 2003, 02:15 AM	#8
Novad DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Unfortunately, that didn't work completely. The main menu works, but ingame the textures tend to corrupt. Ultimately trying to exit the game results in a BSOD. Gonna sleep now, maybe tommorow more news about this prob.

May 16, 2003, 02:28 AM	Thread Starter #10
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Novad yeah i just figured that one out ahhhhhhhhhhh =============================== i take back what i said about the drivers. they do fucking suck ass...................... ATI Stop pissing about your fixes have fucked up perfectly working games from the previous release. this is getting rediculess. here is a screen shot from ingame the texture drawing sucks and i got a BSOD from a file ati3dsomething.dll the name is above in my previous posts ok here is the image... if you cant view this or its a red X copy and paste into your address bar. ===================================== as i said above these drivers are worse than the previous 3.2`s with this game becuse 3.2 was working perfectly im going back to 3.2`s untill this shit is fixed. {bad bad ati lol}

May 16, 2003, 02:37 AM	Thread Starter #12
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	digitalwanderer look up at my previous post mate. i very much dought NVIDIA cards have these problems.

May 16, 2003, 03:47 AM	#13
G.I.BRO To Have and to Hold Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	The newest cards of nvidia have more issues. Go take a look at their threads at various forums...

May 16, 2003, 04:09 AM	#15
G.I.BRO To Have and to Hold Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	hard to say, but for the many PCs that i seen this game run on, the game has been running fine. VERY few people have this issue... people who are running ATi that is. Nvidia still has (so far from what i have read over the past few days) more issues. Even on my lil'R100 32 megger, the game looks fine. Like i said before, there will never be a driver that will be perfect on EVERYONES machine. That will just never happen... Especially the way the PC industry is today. What card are you using? 8500 or 9700?

May 16, 2003, 07:12 AM	#18
henhowc DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	runs the same after installing 3.4s for me

May 16, 2003, 08:28 AM	#19
jjjayb DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Read the readme file that came with the game. From the readme: Changing hardware / re-initialization: Changing either your video card or soundcard may mean that you get Grand Theft Auto: Vice City into an "invalid" settings state for the particular hardware. If you change hardware, to prevent having to un-install and re-install Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, perform the following:- Video card:- - delete from the "Grand Theft Auto Vice City/models" directory the files "TXD.DIR" and "TXD.IMG" (if they exist) - delete from the "Grand Theft Auto Vice City/data" directory the file "CAPS.DAT" - delete from the "Documents and Settings/Current logged-in User/ My Documents/GTA Vice City User Files" directory the "GTA_VC.SET" file.

May 16, 2003, 05:02 PM	#23
thor777 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	I did a clean uninstall of the Omega 3.2, and installed 3.4 yesterday. 3DMark2003 did get a 200-300 point gain. But now my GTA Vice City wont work at all. I click on the shortcut and nothing happens. Program doesn't appear in task manager, all I get is the hourglass mouse pointer for like 2 seconds then nothing. Does anyone else have this problem?? Someone please help!

May 16, 2003, 05:27 PM	Thread Starter #24
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	My system is Winxp Pro Sp1 Amd xp 2200+ Ati 9700 Pro 512 DDR Cosiar pc2700 DX 9.0a =========================== i have uninstalled and reinstalled the game that didnt work. i have deleted the file in my gta_vc.set that did the trick the game did load and the menu was fixed and if i started a game then it would work but it would look like shit the minute the problems start is when i turn frame limit OFF and i bump up the draw distance. now with the 3.2s this wasnt a ishue i could turn frame limit off and max the draw distance and everything was nice . but with 3.4 i cant do that or i get a load of coruption ingame and then i get a bsod from a ati3d dll file....

May 16, 2003, 05:41 PM	#26
thor777 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	I checked for the files to delete, but I dont have any of them in those folders... I'm going to try using Omega drivers later today, hope this will solve it crosses fingers

May 16, 2003, 07:46 PM	Thread Starter #28
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Well i have figured my problem out with the new drivers down to a tee..., the problem is simple. ENABLE FRAME LIMIT and there is no problems at all. Turn FRAME LIMIT OFF and you get Corruption Galoure.... ================================================== ===== Untill this is fixed im gonna have to have it ON DAM becuse i like the performance i get with em im at 1280x1040 6aa 16af = smooth at ice though its even smoother with frame limit OFF but what the hell i can still play it right :P so guys if you have problems then i think the no1 cause is frame limit OFF

May 16, 2003, 08:30 PM	#30
megatron DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	I have the game now, and it runs sweet. Installed after installing cat 3.4. I ran it at 1600 * 1200 4 * AA 16 * AF - low 45 avg 75 fps. I am going to put it at 1024 * 768 so I get a clean 100fps. It may give 100fps at high res I don't know. It is definately the a better state of game engine than gta3! __________________ My system specs and 3dmark2001se score Rad8500 bioses, UT2k3, GTA3 pages & more. Also watercooling endeavours.