CATALYST 3.4 Rating

wlsh242 · May 16, 2003, 12:05 PM

Great drivers; but hard to install. I got a good install after 3 trys. That was using the cleaner. I gave them a 9.

Dom · May 16, 2003, 12:33 PM

I gave them a 10 because my 3DM2K3 score went from 4578 to 4898, 320 point increase!

coffindancer · May 16, 2003, 12:41 PM

I gave them a 8, because the corrupted textures in "Jurassic Prak: Operation Genesis" aren't gone when I set "Terrain quality" to high on my 8500LE!

BWX · May 16, 2003, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
I gave them a 10 because my 3DM2K3 score went from 4578 to 4898, 320 point increase!

Was the original score w/ the soft mod? It's weird because my score with the 3.2's + soft mod gave me 4851 with a MUCH slower system than yours. Just wondering. (I OC'd my card- maybe that is the difference)

Dom · May 16, 2003, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BWX232
Was the original score w/ the soft mod? It's weird because my score with the 3.2's + soft mod gave me 4851 with a MUCH slower system than yours. Just wondering. (I OC'd my card- maybe that is the difference)

Not over-clocked or soft moded.

Adagio · May 16, 2003, 12:58 PM

Gave them 10 ... I am not interested in any performace boosts, all I am interested in is compatibility! And ATI does a great job here

Rancho* · May 16, 2003, 01:02 PM

Well I rated the drivers 6.

First of all the hype and tension that was built around it is exaggerated. Then again the 'performance, performance, performance' improvements mainly affect AA & AF. Not that this is a bad thing but if you run resolutions 1280x960 and up @ 100Hz on a 21'' professional CRT than AA & AF are not exactly what you need to enable for amazing image quality.

The fixes are pretty neat but then again who plays: Bounty Hunter, Jurassic Park demo, Heli Heroes, AirStrike3D etc really? Other games with potential issues come to my mind like Asherons Call 2, BF1942, HL FPS.

Oh and maybe CM might want to take a look at www.maxon.net for Cinebench2003 which is based on professional rendering software, which uses OGL. That score decreased.

Anyway it's a stable upgrade but nothing spectacular.

tparker · May 16, 2003, 02:52 PM

I will answer your question about which driver to use i don't have any ideal which one it will install but best bet is the 9700 version i would try both versions and Benchmark them and also run for at least a day apiece to see how stable the driver is different people will get different results almost every Pc is different from someone else's via Pci cards Bios'es etc: they is no one size fits all.The best advice i can ever give people is if you have the money to flash and play enjoy but if having a piece of your hardware bit the bullet it isn't for you i don't flash anything but Motherboard Bios and only when necessary i haven't seen any Software out there that taxes my System to where i have to do anything to my hardware Software is at least two years behind Hardware.DOOM III will put a system through it's paces when released next month .i believe your question wasn't answered because the only one that has the answer to your question is yourself you have the system do different benches and run both if i was a betting person i would say that the drivers saw that you have a 9700 videocard .

Badaro · May 16, 2003, 03:19 PM

So far it's an 8. The HL bug is gone, Pete's OpenGL plugins are working better with ePSXe (not 100% yet, thought), and games seem to run a bit smoother with AA on.

[]s Badaro

znick · May 16, 2003, 03:20 PM

i never bench new releases of drivers.. is there any performance difference between old 3.2 catalyst and new ones on 8500 series?

Rayder · May 16, 2003, 03:26 PM

I gave them a 9. Image quality is through the roof.

They installed very easily and all I did was uninstall the old driver and control panel and installed the new ones. Didn't even run driver cleaner.

They fixed 2 games that had problems for me: Drome Racers no longer goes into an infinite loop and another game(won't mention which 'cause it ain't really released yet

) now play the videos where it used to just show a blank screen.

2 games still have problems: Incoming still has the screwed up graphics that started with the 3.0's. Big Scale Racing still has flickering textures and overlays that also started with the 3.0's. Both of these games never had a problem before the DX9 drivers were released.

Those are my findings after 'quick-testing' 28 games.

Since those two games have always had problem with DX9 drivers, I only took 1 point off for it.

All in all, I'd have to say good job to the Catalyst team.

EDIT: I didn't bother to run any benchies, I don't put much stock in them other than for a little thrill....

EDIT EDIT: GTA VC runs like a charm, at least 10x better than GTA3 ever did.
For those that seem to care about benchies, my 3DMark01 score went up about 200 points(89xx to 91xx), 3DMark03 up about 100 (13xx to 14xx). I run benchies in 'real world' mode, I.E. set to quality but no AA or AF.

I have to say it again, the IQ is freakin' great!! Now if only those 2 games could get fixed, I'd be golden.

maxroom · May 16, 2003, 03:27 PM

I gave them a 7, they are more stable than 3.2 but I also lost about 200 points on 3DMarkSE. I have a 8500LE and the scores are down from 6934 to 6734, otherwise the drivers appear to be very stable on games tested so far, war3, hitman2, mafia, unreal and CS. I have not upgraded to DirectX9.0a so this might improve the scores, I am still running DirectX8.1

I still need to upgrade the driver on my 7500 machine running win98, so I will comment again later.

Thanks for keeping the Catalyst updated and continueing the constant improvement, Ati rules

DarkFoss · May 16, 2003, 04:22 PM

These driver's rock so far on my back-up rig, can't wait to try'em out on my main once my RMA comes through on my Asus A7N8X Deluxe. Only negative is in EverQuest in the bazaar framerates drop lower (around 5 with 480 people in the zone) than the 3.2's. Could be cpu and crappy GA-7AX related though.Gave'em a 9
Thanks too for the MMC/DVD upgrades

a very unexpected suprize

kudraw · May 16, 2003, 04:44 PM

Very good release, cs issue fixed (i use 3.1 because 3.2 crash cs...)... only one thing... Why you don't put 1280x960 resolution? I get PowerStrip to make avaiable this resolution... ever for CS...

My vote is 9.

Sorry for my bad english

digitalwanderer · May 16, 2003, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CATALYST maker
Can you give me an indication from 1-10 how you rate the drivers? 1 being the lowest 10 being the highest?

Not yet.....

~~Hundredswords~~ · May 16, 2003, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digitalwanderer
Not yet.....

Are you the same dude that posted at warp2search saying you don't own an ATI card at this moment? gone to GF3 or something?

Konge Odin · May 16, 2003, 05:53 PM

THese drivers are great. My system now runs 8x agp in all games and catalyst screensavers.
I thought this was due to a hardware incompatability.
Only problem is me getting green lines, blocka or fields all over my screen in windows and in 3d games. Sometimes they are following the walls or the ground rendering them with green lines or fields.

Just typical my luck that very probable my system should fail just when the drivers work flawless.
I also had to remove one ram last week, because it was bad, maybe that did it, even if I have tried that before.

amd athlon palomino xp2000
Sl--75frv (soltek kt400)
Soundblaster audigy platinum EX
Now 256 mb (ddr333) before 2x 256 mb ddr333
Radeon 9700pro

digitalwanderer · May 16, 2003, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hundredswords
Are you the same dude that posted at warp2search saying you don't own an ATI card at this moment? gone to GF3 or something?

Man, there are like a bazillion dudes on the web now all pretending to be me! There's a guy at Rage3D, one at nVnews, and then there's that poser over at Elite Bastards too....not to mention the guy who got banned over at Andre's House of Snores!

j/k

Yeah, it was me. I chose me GF3 over me 8500, then just recently upgraded to a GF4 ti4400 and cycled the GF3 to me #2 rig and dumped me 8500 off on a friend. (Sorry Quinn, I'll make it up to you.

)

I love me GF3 & GF4, but I am NOT liking nVidia lately. I swore I'd never buy another ATi product until they showed me that they had changed, so they sent me a 9500 Pro to play with for a week and WOW!!!!

I'm STILL jonesing for that 9500 Pro, it's just a whole 'nother league up from me GF3/GF4. Truly another plateu of performance. Once you get used to a lot of good AA & AF it is DAMNED HARD to go back!

I just am too cheap to upgrade, I got a 3 & 5 year old that I stay at home with and I can't just be blowing cash on toys. I buy used/cheap whenever I can/see something and get the best I can for me money.

Me rigs are in me sig; it's me wifes, mine, my 5 year old son, and my 3 year old daughter's PCs in that order.

Oh, did I mention I didn't like nVidia lately? I REALLY don't like nVidia lately.

BONEHEAD · May 16, 2003, 05:58 PM

Well so far all is ok. I do have a few problems none game related 1 Fast User sitching Win+Q is slow as hell and all of my screen savers are glitchey. Remote 1.5 will not work on any other accounts I get Dcom errors.

El_Coyote · May 16, 2003, 06:04 PM

lol dig :P

El_Coyote · May 16, 2003, 06:09 PM

rating off the driver... hmm 6 since the AA control panel sliders seems to be broken... and AA is life...

MasterBaiter · May 16, 2003, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digitalwanderer
Man, there are like a bazillion dudes on the web now all pretending to be me! There's a guy at Rage3D, one at nVnews, and then there's that poser over at Elite Bastards too....not to mention the guy who got banned over at Andre's House of Snores!

Yeah, you do seem to get around! I think I've seen you on at least 3 boards I lurk @

P.S. your computer sig reads like the evolution of computers

Okay on-topic now! I was pretty much just testing out games so far. I seem to start testing a game then keep playing it, so three hours later I had tested 4 games: Unreal2 (seemed good), Splinter Cell (otay), BF1942 (no problems), Jedi Outcast (all good). I'll throw some benches at it tonight if I get a chance, but I'm expecting my Canterwood motherboard in today, so the benches may have to wait!

P.S. I can't tell much of a difference between the 3.2-3.4's so IMO that's a good thing! I'm gonna rate the drivers at an 8 for now.

Monolyth · May 16, 2003, 06:15 PM

Will post new 3dMark2001SE/2003 results when I get home today.

CAT 3.2 Bench - 3DMark 2001SE

3DMark 2K3 w/3.2 = 5412

UPDATE: Sorry took so long to get back. After installing 3.4's everything seems to run smoothly. Experienced some texture corruption in Enter the Matrix, but that game is so buggy atm that I highly doubt it's ATI's problem.

New 3dMark2001 score CAT 3.4 Bench - 3DMark 2001SE

I haven't run 2K3 yet, will give another update when I have. Peace out ya'll!

See Sig for system specs...

tragic · May 16, 2003, 06:15 PM

These drivers seem capable of anything..

Now hit the 5257 mark with 3DMark03

Have now run all my games and have had not one hiccup........sweet

Dmac43 · May 16, 2003, 06:19 PM

Have to say I actually lost FPS stability with the new driver, but the overall look was better.
I've since installed the new 3.4 Omegas and am a happy camper once again...

It must be the soft mod that is adding to the stability of the frame rate...

My feeling is I know what the card can do with and without the soft mod, and it makes no sense to me to use a driver without the soft mod again...

**Roadee** · May 16, 2003, 06:22 PM

8........I haven't had time to do much testing......but they work great in IL-2 and 3DMark 2001SE is getting a score of 9891 with a stock ATI Radeon 8500LE 128DDR.....This is about normal for the stcok card on my system.......so no bad new's is good news

digitalwanderer · May 16, 2003, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MasterBaiter
P.S. your computer sig reads like the evolution of computers

ROFLMFAO~~~~~~

Funny thing...it IS kind of the evolution of computers. It's the reason I'm all intel, everytime I upgraded I just sort of cycle all the parts down the line. I am SO blown away by the whole range of the 440x generation intel chipset for it's range!!! I started off with a PII350 64MB Xpert98 w/8Gb (Blue before she became Blue Pheonix, she's pretty much been born again a couple times over.) that evolved into the first three systems in me sig over the last 5 years or so!

Babs was a flat-out addition that was kindly & annonymously (thanks Mom!!!) donated to me from a local companies old equipment room that I spruced up with some old parts lying around and painted bright pink for me daughter....she LOVES it!

Anc · May 16, 2003, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by CATALYST maker
You dont honestly think I am going to answer a question about flashing your BIOS, voiding your warranty, and making your card something its not do you?

well.. YOU've done it before

how do you explain the Radeon 9100 then? Why does it say Radeon 8500 on my Radeon 9100 GPU

I'd just like to say that bios flashing is a quite normal thing

All the companies producing radeon 9100 graphics adapters do it to gain performance

digitalwanderer · May 16, 2003, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anc
well.. YOU've done it before how do you explain the Radeon 9100 then? Why does it say Radeon 8500 on my Radeon 9100 GPU

It's one thing to talk about doing it yourself, it's another thing for a company representative to suggest to you ways to void your warranty. He CAN'T tell you, it's not that he doesn't want to.

You gotta remember that even though CatMaker is here in a non-official capacity he's STILL bound to a lot of obligations/NDA/ramifications for what he says here with ATi. If he says he can't help you with something, please take him at his word and don't harsh him for not helping...he helps us all out more than anyone I know!

Effinnelle · May 16, 2003, 06:55 PM

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Code:

Catalyst 3.2          3dMark2K3:  4400ish    Games: No problemos
Dodgy Dell 3.3        3dMark2K3:  4700ish    Games: Utter Dog Poo
Catalyst 3.4          3dMark2K3:  4800ish    Games: Smooth as a Greased Eel

May 16, 2003, 12:58 PM	#36
Adagio DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 70 Rep Power: 0	Gave them 10 ... I am not interested in any performace boosts, all I am interested in is compatibility! And ATI does a great job here __________________ My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. ° Adagios hard- and softwareconfiguration ° 3DFusion - All news around ATi, Matrox, nVidia and more!

May 16, 2003, 02:52 PM	#38
tparker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Winston Salem N.C. Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	9500 or 9700 catalyst drivers I will answer your question about which driver to use i don't have any ideal which one it will install but best bet is the 9700 version i would try both versions and Benchmark them and also run for at least a day apiece to see how stable the driver is different people will get different results almost every Pc is different from someone else's via Pci cards Bios'es etc: they is no one size fits all.The best advice i can ever give people is if you have the money to flash and play enjoy but if having a piece of your hardware bit the bullet it isn't for you i don't flash anything but Motherboard Bios and only when necessary i haven't seen any Software out there that taxes my System to where i have to do anything to my hardware Software is at least two years behind Hardware.DOOM III will put a system through it's paces when released next month .i believe your question wasn't answered because the only one that has the answer to your question is yourself you have the system do different benches and run both if i was a betting person i would say that the drivers saw that you have a 9700 videocard .

May 16, 2003, 03:20 PM	#40
znick DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	i never bench new releases of drivers.. is there any performance difference between old 3.2 catalyst and new ones on 8500 series? __________________ There are 10 types of people in the world: who understands binary language and who does not.

May 16, 2003, 03:26 PM	#41
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,160 Rep Power: 71	I gave them a 9. Image quality is through the roof. They installed very easily and all I did was uninstall the old driver and control panel and installed the new ones. Didn't even run driver cleaner. They fixed 2 games that had problems for me: Drome Racers no longer goes into an infinite loop and another game(won't mention which 'cause it ain't really released yet ) now play the videos where it used to just show a blank screen. 2 games still have problems: Incoming still has the screwed up graphics that started with the 3.0's. Big Scale Racing still has flickering textures and overlays that also started with the 3.0's. Both of these games never had a problem before the DX9 drivers were released. Those are my findings after 'quick-testing' 28 games. Since those two games have always had problem with DX9 drivers, I only took 1 point off for it. All in all, I'd have to say good job to the Catalyst team. EDIT: I didn't bother to run any benchies, I don't put much stock in them other than for a little thrill.... EDIT EDIT: GTA VC runs like a charm, at least 10x better than GTA3 ever did. For those that seem to care about benchies, my 3DMark01 score went up about 200 points(89xx to 91xx), 3DMark03 up about 100 (13xx to 14xx). I run benchies in 'real world' mode, I.E. set to quality but no AA or AF. I have to say it again, the IQ is freakin' great!! Now if only those 2 games could get fixed, I'd be golden. Last edited by Rayder; May 16, 2003 at 08:04 PM.

May 16, 2003, 03:27 PM	#42
maxroom DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	I gave them a 7, they are more stable than 3.2 but I also lost about 200 points on 3DMarkSE. I have a 8500LE and the scores are down from 6934 to 6734, otherwise the drivers appear to be very stable on games tested so far, war3, hitman2, mafia, unreal and CS. I have not upgraded to DirectX9.0a so this might improve the scores, I am still running DirectX8.1 I still need to upgrade the driver on my 7500 machine running win98, so I will comment again later. Thanks for keeping the Catalyst updated and continueing the constant improvement, Ati rules __________________ To be or not to be that is the answer, so what is the question again?

May 16, 2003, 12:05 PM	#31
wlsh242 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: FL USA Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	Great drivers; but hard to install. I got a good install after 3 trys. That was using the cleaner. I gave them a 9.

May 16, 2003, 12:33 PM	#32
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	I gave them a 10 because my 3DM2K3 score went from 4578 to 4898, 320 point increase!

May 16, 2003, 12:41 PM	#33
coffindancer DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bavaria, Germany Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	I gave them a 8, because the corrupted textures in "Jurassic Prak: Operation Genesis" aren't gone when I set "Terrain quality" to high on my 8500LE!

May 16, 2003, 01:02 PM	#37
Rancho* Warp2Search Join Date: May 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	Well I rated the drivers 6. First of all the hype and tension that was built around it is exaggerated. Then again the 'performance, performance, performance' improvements mainly affect AA & AF. Not that this is a bad thing but if you run resolutions 1280x960 and up @ 100Hz on a 21'' professional CRT than AA & AF are not exactly what you need to enable for amazing image quality. The fixes are pretty neat but then again who plays: Bounty Hunter, Jurassic Park demo, Heli Heroes, AirStrike3D etc really? Other games with potential issues come to my mind like Asherons Call 2, BF1942, HL FPS. Oh and maybe CM might want to take a look at www.maxon.net for Cinebench2003 which is based on professional rendering software, which uses OGL. That score decreased. Anyway it's a stable upgrade but nothing spectacular.

May 16, 2003, 03:19 PM	#39
Badaro DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	So far it's an 8. The HL bug is gone, Pete's OpenGL plugins are working better with ePSXe (not 100% yet, thought), and games seem to run a bit smoother with AA on. []s Badaro

May 16, 2003, 04:22 PM	#43
DarkFoss HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Downers Grove IL Posts: 688 Rep Power: 0	Great Driver's These driver's rock so far on my back-up rig, can't wait to try'em out on my main once my RMA comes through on my Asus A7N8X Deluxe. Only negative is in EverQuest in the bazaar framerates drop lower (around 5 with 480 people in the zone) than the 3.2's. Could be cpu and crappy GA-7AX related though.Gave'em a 9 Thanks too for the MMC/DVD upgrades a very unexpected suprize __________________ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Ben Franklin, 1755

May 16, 2003, 04:44 PM	#44
kudraw DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Very good release, cs issue fixed (i use 3.1 because 3.2 crash cs...)... only one thing... Why you don't put 1280x960 resolution? I get PowerStrip to make avaiable this resolution... ever for CS... My vote is 9. Sorry for my bad english

May 16, 2003, 05:53 PM	#47
Konge Odin DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Moss, Norway Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	THese drivers are great. My system now runs 8x agp in all games and catalyst screensavers. I thought this was due to a hardware incompatability. Only problem is me getting green lines, blocka or fields all over my screen in windows and in 3d games. Sometimes they are following the walls or the ground rendering them with green lines or fields. Just typical my luck that very probable my system should fail just when the drivers work flawless. I also had to remove one ram last week, because it was bad, maybe that did it, even if I have tried that before. amd athlon palomino xp2000 Sl--75frv (soltek kt400) Soundblaster audigy platinum EX Now 256 mb (ddr333) before 2x 256 mb ddr333 Radeon 9700pro Last edited by Konge Odin; May 16, 2003 at 06:09 PM.

May 16, 2003, 05:58 PM	#49
BONEHEAD DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: TEXAS Posts: 182 Rep Power: 0	Well so far all is ok. I do have a few problems none game related 1 Fast User sitching Win+Q is slow as hell and all of my screen savers are glitchey. Remote 1.5 will not work on any other accounts I get Dcom errors. __________________ [COLOR=red]Xp Pro Sp2 Amd Athlon 2400+ O/C 2800+ (2250 GHZ)Antec True 550 ps Dragon Orb 3 7000rpm 2 80mm Case fans [/COLOR] [COLOR=red]2 40mm case fans[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]1.5 Gig Ecc Ram Msi KT2 COMBO[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Adaptec 29320A-R[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]8 Seagate 36 gig ultra 320 10k [/COLOR] [COLOR=red]1 Toshiba SD-M1401 [/COLOR] [COLOR=red]1 Plextor 124TS cdrw [/COLOR] [COLOR=red]2 Nec4551a 1 Samsung TS-H552U 1 Nec3520a[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Ati AIW Radeon 8500 128mb SoundBlaster X-Fi Platinum[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Midiland sm7401 5.1 Hp 4C scanner VPR 17'' Lcd[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Apc Back-ups RS1500[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]Taken by the ex maybe to return soon[/COLOR]

May 16, 2003, 06:04 PM	#50
El_Coyote DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	lol dig :P __________________ Warp2Search.net Newsie

May 16, 2003, 06:09 PM	#51
El_Coyote DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	rating off the driver... hmm 6 since the AA control panel sliders seems to be broken... and AA is life... __________________ Warp2Search.net Newsie

May 16, 2003, 06:15 PM	#53
Monolyth DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Will post new 3dMark2001SE/2003 results when I get home today. CAT 3.2 Bench - 3DMark 2001SE 3DMark 2K3 w/3.2 = 5412 UPDATE: Sorry took so long to get back. After installing 3.4's everything seems to run smoothly. Experienced some texture corruption in Enter the Matrix, but that game is so buggy atm that I highly doubt it's ATI's problem. New 3dMark2001 score CAT 3.4 Bench - 3DMark 2001SE I haven't run 2K3 yet, will give another update when I have. Peace out ya'll! See Sig for system specs... __________________ Meow Mix Kills... Lykanthrope Rig Last edited by Monolyth; May 19, 2003 at 04:48 PM.

May 16, 2003, 06:15 PM	#54
tragic Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Northern Hemi Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	These drivers seem capable of anything.. Now hit the 5257 mark with 3DMark03 Have now run all my games and have had not one hiccup........sweet Last edited by tragic; May 16, 2003 at 07:13 PM.

May 16, 2003, 06:19 PM	#55
Dmac43 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: FLA USA Posts: 125 Rep Power: 0	Have to say I actually lost FPS stability with the new driver, but the overall look was better. I've since installed the new 3.4 Omegas and am a happy camper once again... It must be the soft mod that is adding to the stability of the frame rate... My feeling is I know what the card can do with and without the soft mod, and it makes no sense to me to use a driver without the soft mod again...

May 16, 2003, 06:22 PM	#56
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,198 Rep Power: 67	8........I haven't had time to do much testing......but they work great in IL-2 and 3DMark 2001SE is getting a score of 9891 with a stock ATI Radeon 8500LE 128DDR.....This is about normal for the stcok card on my system.......so no bad new's is good news

May 16, 2003, 06:55 PM	#60
Effinnelle DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: On The Bog Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	[SIZE=x-large][COLOR=deeppink]Yipppieee-kaiii-ayyyyy mother lovers[/COLOR][/SIZE] Code: Catalyst 3.2 3dMark2K3: 4400ish Games: No problemos Dodgy Dell 3.3 3dMark2K3: 4700ish Games: Utter Dog Poo Catalyst 3.4 3dMark2K3: 4800ish Games: Smooth as a Greased Eel __________________