How do I do the 9700-9800 softmod with cat 3.4's

Orwella · May 18, 2003, 02:12 PM

Is there a new ati2mtag file available for download so that I can softmod my 9700Pro to 9800 manually using Cat 3.4 drivers. I know the Omega's include this mod but I find them less stable than the standard 3.4's.

shuki · May 18, 2003, 02:25 PM

that mod is already built in for r9700 users in the official cat 3.4's

sunrise · May 18, 2003, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shuki
that mod is already built in for r9700 users in the official cat 3.4's

No it's not
plain Omega 3.4 driver is same fps as ati 3.4 driver
omega 3.4 driver with 9800 hack
Q3A 1024x768 with all quality options (no AA/AS): goes from 233.8 fps to 248fps
with 6xAA/16x AS goes from 117.8 to 143.2fps!

Dom · May 18, 2003, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sunrise
No it's not
plain Omega 3.4 driver is same fps as ati 3.4 driver
omega 3.4 driver with 9800 hack
Q3A 1024x768 with all quality options (no AA/AS): goes from 233.8 fps to 248fps
with 6xAA/16x AS goes from 117.8 to 143.2fps!

I think he ment the Omega 3.4 Cat's.

shuki · May 18, 2003, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sunrise
No it's not
plain Omega 3.4 driver is same fps as ati 3.4 driver
omega 3.4 driver with 9800 hack
Q3A 1024x768 with all quality options (no AA/AS): goes from 233.8 fps to 248fps
with 6xAA/16x AS goes from 117.8 to 143.2fps!

sunrise, what card are you using?

sunrise · May 18, 2003, 03:12 PM

9700 non-pro

shuki · May 18, 2003, 03:14 PM

my understanding was that for the 9700 cards the soft mod would be built in with this catalyst release. I thought only the 9500 needed to soft mods to come up to 9700+ levels. Though I have not checked it personally maybe I should....

sunrise · May 18, 2003, 03:20 PM

I'm going to try soft mod the ATi 3.4's to use the 9800 driver path and see if I get the same results as with the hacked Omega drivers.

Chaos · May 18, 2003, 03:24 PM

Omega's new set includes the 9800 hack for sure. It works just fine on my 9500 Pro

sunrise · May 18, 2003, 03:38 PM

I've soft modded ATi's 3.4
Ran Q3A as I've done before:
1024x768x32 (quality settings, no aa/as): 247.8fps
as above but with 6xaa/16xas: 145.3
Pretty much same fps as hacked omega drivers, so DEFINITELY improvement from hacked driver
Try for yourself if you have any doubts.

shuki · May 18, 2003, 03:42 PM

sunrise, what ati2mtag did you use to softmod them? any way I could get it?

sunrise · May 18, 2003, 03:44 PM

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33685874
That's the instructions I followed to update the patch script.

shuki · May 18, 2003, 03:47 PM

thanks! but guessing thats a rag3dtweak file he is adding too

Ah, maybe tomti will put up another modded file soon....

sunrise · May 18, 2003, 03:57 PM

Just get rivatuner, and edit the SoftR9x00 w2k.rts file as it says, and then run the ATi cat installer and when it extracts the files, apply the patch, rename the .sys file (the patch will not directly modify the .sy_ file, but will create a .sys file that's modified) to .sy_ and continue with setup

shuki · May 18, 2003, 04:26 PM

why don't you just send me that .sys file that it created

sunrise · May 18, 2003, 04:31 PM

I need an e-mail.... (priv?)

shuki · May 18, 2003, 04:41 PM

its in my profile

shuki@driverheaven.net

rui_tecedeiro · May 18, 2003, 04:43 PM

sunrise, could you send the file to me also?

rui_tecedeiro@gmx.net

Many thanks

sunrise · May 18, 2003, 04:52 PM

You have mail! (both of you)

shuki · May 18, 2003, 05:24 PM

thanks sunrise

Valjack · May 18, 2003, 08:39 PM

Did you notice any boost ???

MidnightWatcher · May 19, 2003, 02:54 AM

Hey people, I have a 9500 Pro with an unlocked BIOS clocked at 355/320. WinXP now thinks it's a 9700 Pro, so is there anything I can do to get this thing even faster, such as this softmod you're all referring to, eg, the 9700 -> 9800 softmod? Thanks.

sunrise · May 19, 2003, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MidnightWatcher
Hey people, I have a 9500 Pro with an unlocked BIOS clocked at 355/320. WinXP now thinks it's a 9700 Pro, so is there anything I can do to get this thing even faster, such as this softmod you're all referring to, eg, the 9700 -> 9800 softmod? Thanks.

Try and see. You're going to have to find out for yourself by playing around.

MidnightWatcher · May 19, 2003, 03:19 AM

Okay, should I use Omega's latest drivers? (I'm assuming this softmod is built-in). Or would I be better off applying it some other way? Thanks in advance.

rui_tecedeiro · May 19, 2003, 10:16 AM

Thank you sunrise, sorry for the late response but was offline since yesterday.

sunrise · May 19, 2003, 10:21 AM

No problem, let us know what performance you get after applying it.

Valjack · May 19, 2003, 01:22 PM

I tested the new file posted at http://www.maxdownloads.com/%7Eian/wizzard/ (the 9500>9800 one) with the original CAT 3.4

Ok this time i see the same boost as i had with Cat 3.2+Softmod coming from http://www.tommti-systems.de/main-Da...t/ati2mtag.exe ( in fact the new file is also a German modded one i suppose...better job than all the others...

)

Let's say that i have f.i. a +100 in 3dMk01 IN ADDITION to the boost i simply saw from CAT 3.2 > CAT 3.4...so i can say this time there IS a difference...but no SMoothvision 2.1 do i think...(i did the test on a late night, so i'll go furter later)

Ho i need to say that i always do my tests on a Fresh copy of XP (thks GHOST), so when there is ANY boost, i can say it is due to the things i test, not a chance of a special combination of an old sytem...

shuki · May 19, 2003, 02:13 PM

valjack, which card do you have? 9500 or 9700?

sunrise · May 19, 2003, 02:42 PM

Did you get around to tying the 9800 hack?

shuki · May 19, 2003, 02:51 PM

I've got a guy uploading all of season one of "24" to me. Its coming in at 100Kbps and I don't wanna break the connection

I've got 15 eps and the last 9 are still coming in.... I will try it though as soon as I am "rebootable" heh.

May 18, 2003, 02:12 PM	#1
Orwella DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: London ENGLAND Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	How do I do the 9700-9800 softmod with cat 3.4's Is there a new ati2mtag file available for download so that I can softmod my 9700Pro to 9800 manually using Cat 3.4 drivers. I know the Omega's include this mod but I find them less stable than the standard 3.4's.

May 18, 2003, 03:24 PM	#9
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	Omega's new set includes the 9800 hack for sure. It works just fine on my 9500 Pro __________________

May 18, 2003, 04:43 PM	#18
rui_tecedeiro DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	sunrise, could you send the file to me also? rui_tecedeiro@gmx.net Many thanks __________________ rui

May 18, 2003, 08:39 PM	#21
Valjack DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 28 Rep Power: 0	After that... Did you notice any boost ???

May 19, 2003, 02:54 AM	#22
MidnightWatcher DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 164 Rep Power: 0	Hey people, I have a 9500 Pro with an unlocked BIOS clocked at 355/320. WinXP now thinks it's a 9700 Pro, so is there anything I can do to get this thing even faster, such as this softmod you're all referring to, eg, the 9700 -> 9800 softmod? Thanks. __________________ [COLOR=Red] HD DVD: Beyond Blu-ray [/COLOR] HD DVD: The Most Affordable Hardware and the Year's Biggest Boxoffice Hits \| Consumers Prefer HD DVD HUGE HD DVD Growth In 2007 \| Sound Advice: HD DVD Leaves Blu-ray In The Dust Paramount and DreamWorks Also Now [COLOR=Red]HD DVD EXCLUSIVE[/COLOR]!

May 18, 2003, 02:25 PM	#2
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	that mod is already built in for r9700 users in the official cat 3.4's

May 18, 2003, 03:12 PM	#6
sunrise DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	9700 non-pro

May 18, 2003, 03:14 PM	#7
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	my understanding was that for the 9700 cards the soft mod would be built in with this catalyst release. I thought only the 9500 needed to soft mods to come up to 9700+ levels. Though I have not checked it personally maybe I should....

May 18, 2003, 03:20 PM	#8
sunrise DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	I'm going to try soft mod the ATi 3.4's to use the 9800 driver path and see if I get the same results as with the hacked Omega drivers.

May 18, 2003, 03:38 PM	#10
sunrise DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	I've soft modded ATi's 3.4 Ran Q3A as I've done before: 1024x768x32 (quality settings, no aa/as): 247.8fps as above but with 6xaa/16xas: 145.3 Pretty much same fps as hacked omega drivers, so DEFINITELY improvement from hacked driver Try for yourself if you have any doubts.

May 18, 2003, 03:42 PM	#11
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	sunrise, what ati2mtag did you use to softmod them? any way I could get it?

May 18, 2003, 03:44 PM	#12
sunrise DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33685874 That's the instructions I followed to update the patch script.

May 18, 2003, 03:47 PM	#13
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	thanks! but guessing thats a rag3dtweak file he is adding too Ah, maybe tomti will put up another modded file soon....

May 18, 2003, 03:57 PM	#14
sunrise DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	Just get rivatuner, and edit the SoftR9x00 w2k.rts file as it says, and then run the ATi cat installer and when it extracts the files, apply the patch, rename the .sys file (the patch will not directly modify the .sy_ file, but will create a .sys file that's modified) to .sy_ and continue with setup

May 18, 2003, 04:26 PM	#15
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	why don't you just send me that .sys file that it created

May 18, 2003, 04:31 PM	#16
sunrise DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	I need an e-mail.... (priv?)

May 18, 2003, 04:41 PM	#17
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	its in my profile shuki@driverheaven.net

May 18, 2003, 04:52 PM	#19
sunrise DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	You have mail! (both of you)

May 18, 2003, 05:24 PM	#20
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	thanks sunrise

May 19, 2003, 03:19 AM	#24
MidnightWatcher DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 164 Rep Power: 0	Okay, should I use Omega's latest drivers? (I'm assuming this softmod is built-in). Or would I be better off applying it some other way? Thanks in advance. __________________ [COLOR=Red] HD DVD: Beyond Blu-ray [/COLOR] HD DVD: The Most Affordable Hardware and the Year's Biggest Boxoffice Hits \| Consumers Prefer HD DVD HUGE HD DVD Growth In 2007 \| Sound Advice: HD DVD Leaves Blu-ray In The Dust Paramount and DreamWorks Also Now [COLOR=Red]HD DVD EXCLUSIVE[/COLOR]!

May 19, 2003, 10:16 AM	#25
rui_tecedeiro DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Thank you sunrise, sorry for the late response but was offline since yesterday. __________________ rui

May 19, 2003, 10:21 AM	#26
sunrise DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	No problem, let us know what performance you get after applying it.

May 19, 2003, 01:22 PM	#27
Valjack DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 28 Rep Power: 0	NEW TEST I tested the new file posted at http://www.maxdownloads.com/%7Eian/wizzard/ (the 9500>9800 one) with the original CAT 3.4 Ok this time i see the same boost as i had with Cat 3.2+Softmod coming from http://www.tommti-systems.de/main-Da...t/ati2mtag.exe ( in fact the new file is also a German modded one i suppose...better job than all the others... ) Let's say that i have f.i. a +100 in 3dMk01 IN ADDITION to the boost i simply saw from CAT 3.2 > CAT 3.4...so i can say this time there IS a difference...but no SMoothvision 2.1 do i think...(i did the test on a late night, so i'll go furter later) Ho i need to say that i always do my tests on a Fresh copy of XP (thks GHOST), so when there is ANY boost, i can say it is due to the things i test, not a chance of a special combination of an old sytem...

May 19, 2003, 02:13 PM	#28
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	valjack, which card do you have? 9500 or 9700?

May 19, 2003, 02:42 PM	#29
sunrise DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	Did you get around to tying the 9800 hack?

May 19, 2003, 02:51 PM	#30
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	I've got a guy uploading all of season one of "24" to me. Its coming in at 100Kbps and I don't wanna break the connection I've got 15 eps and the last 9 are still coming in.... I will try it though as soon as I am "rebootable" heh.