xProg

Heloo,

I have a HIS Raeon HD 3650 AGP.

After i install the driver (hotfix) from ati's website, after reboot, where is showed Windows XP and the loading bar i get a black screen. Installed Omega drivers and the same results...What to do ?? My cousin bought the card from newegg.com as a gift for me (I live in Moldova)
Is there a way to fix it ??...

Dyre Straits

Welcome.

Sorry it took so long to reply but I had trouble viewing your system specs.

Here's a link to check out for your Motherboard. This could very well be a motherboard driver problem in combination with the HD3850.

Welcome to EPoX International, Inc. Home of EPoX Products in the USA and Canada.

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xProg

i read the MB's manual about 5-6 times...It supports AGP4x. AGP version is 2.0. The MBs specs are:

Socket Type:
Socket 478

Chipset:
Intel 845 Chipset

Processor:
IntelŪ PentiumŪ 4

Max FSB:
400MHz

Memory:
2 x DDR SDRAM PC2100, 2GB max.

AGP/VGA Slot:
1 (4x mode @ 1.5v)

PCI Slot:
5 (32-bit)

IDE:
2 x E/IDE Ultra DMA/100, 4 drives max.

USB:
2 onboard, 2 optional. USB 1.1

Audio:
Realtek ALC201A full-duplex integrated sound

BIOS:
Award/Phoenix BIOS v6.0

Size:
ATX

maybe the MB Chipest driver are bad ? A update of BIOS may help ?
My previous card was Manli GeForce2 MX/MX400


Sorry if I wrote something wrong (grammaticaly)

Dyre Straits

That's why I posted the link to EPoX. Try updating the motherboard/chipset drivers and update the BIOS. See if that helps.

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xProg

The EPoX links are dead, so i can't download the updates for BIOS/Chipset/Motherboard...I will try to find these files from other websites...

Dyre Straits

You can get the Intel Chipset Drivers for the 845 Chipset directly from Intel....

Welcome to Intel

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xProg

damn...I updated BIOS and windows is not booting.. it shows me some wierd symbols...what to do ?..

EDIT:
I FIXED !! i updated the BIOS reinstalled Windows XP, installed MBs Chipset driver and then the AGP HOTFIX from ati and it is WORKING

Thanks Dyre Straits for your good ideeas!!

Dyre Straits

You're very welcome. Hope you enjoy your games now.

Now, here's one more small bit of advice: "If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it." In other words, now that it's working, don't bother trying to use updated drivers. It might just cause more problems than it's worth.

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xProg

ok thanks

NFS pro street is running at the lowest graphic quality, and is running with 8-15 fps.
Is this normal ??

Dyre Straits

Considering that the following is the System Requirements for the game:

OS: Windows XP/Vista
CPU: 2.8 GHz or higher (Windows Vista requires 3.0 GHz)
RAM: 512 MB RAM or higher (Windows Vista requires 1 GB RAM)
HDD: 8.1 GB free disk space or more
Graphics: 128 MB or higher (Pixel Shader 2.0, AGP and PCIe only)
DirectX: Version 9.0c
DVD-Drive: 8x
Multiplayer: Internet Connection 512 Kbps, 2-8 Players
Input: Keyboard, Mouse
Optional: USB Steering Wheel / Dual Analogue Gamepad


.....I'd say your performance is about right. Your CPU is the biggest culprit in your system. It just can't handle the requirements.

And, Gamespot's Review has this to say:

"Doesn't run well unless most visual options are turned down or off"

So, your system is quite out-dated and it's no surprise it's struggling with this game.

I actually downloaded a demo for the game and, during installation, it requested I insert the game CD. So, I chucked it.

EDIT/UPDATE: I found another download link for the demo and just played through the initial race...which I won handily.

Settings at 1280x1024, 85Hz, World Details and such at least Medium. 4x AA, etc. Not one hiccup during the race. So, I have to say my previous assessment was spot on. Your CPU and system is quite outdated and doesn't meet the Sys. Req. for the game.



FPS were averaging around 38-42

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xProg

thanks for reply...I have a Pentium 4 1,5ghz @ 2,10ghz...

one more question:

If my motherboard supports Pentium 4 2,0ghz and I put in the CPU socket a Pentium 4 3,0ghz, will the computer run ? I am asking beacause i have bought Intel Pentium 4 3.00GHZ and when I put in the computer's MB, I turn the computer on and wierd sound i hear from it...is this normal ?

I think you understand me

Dyre Straits

I assume your Pentium 4 3.0 is the same architecture as the original P4. Did you apply thermal compound/paste during the installation of the new one?

With the BIOS update you got, are you sure that the motherboard supports the new CPU? Depending on the differences, it could be a matter of voltage regulation that needs to be adjusted for the newer one.

But, the 'weird sound' you mention: How is it 'weird'?

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caqde

As far as I can find that board supports P4 2.0ghz max....

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AMD Phenom II X4 925 AM3/ Giga-byte MA790XT-UD4P
XFX HD5770 1GB / 2x8GB of Geil DDR3 12800 10-10-10-28
Samsung SH-S182D DVD-RW drive / Sony Optiarc BD-5300S BD-RW drive
Western Digital WD1501FASS(Primary)/Western Digital 15EADS(Secondary)/Western Digital 7500AACS(Secondary)/Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320gb(Secondary)
Antec TP-550 / CoolerMaster CMStacker
Sound Blaster X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty Professional / Creative Inspire 6600 6.1 speakers
Samsugn T200HD 20" LCD Monitor / Logitech Internet 350 Black Keyboard
Logitech MX510 Mouse

Dyre Straits

Yeah, that's why I'm asking about the BIOS update. That board is really 'ancient'.

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xProg

Current CPU Voltage is 1,8v

But the wierd sounds from computer sounds like some beeps.

this is the new cpu i bought from: Newegg.com - Intel Pentium 4 3.0 Prescott 3.0GHz 1MB L2 Cache Socket 478 89W Single-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops - this CPU supports 1,25-1,40V

I updated the BIOS to the latest version for my MB, the videocard is working but the CPU...

caqde

ouch.. um your motherboard is trying to cook the processor. 1.4V vs 1.8v is quiet a large jump. Thats barely less than 130% of the power that it is supposed to get. Unless you can get that down to at least 1.4v -1.5v I would say that there is no way that processor is going to work in that board. I'm not even sure that board could provide that little amount of power stably to the processor.

I would say get a new board for that Processor, but the only agp boards I can find are for socket 775 and AMD based sockets (939/AM2). The only decent board is Newegg.com - ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2 LGA 775 VIA PT880 Pro/PT880 Ultra ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards from ASRock. It supports the Core2 chips and DDR/DDR2 along with AGP and PCI-E. Although from what I read it is one picky board.

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AMD Phenom II X4 925 AM3/ Giga-byte MA790XT-UD4P
XFX HD5770 1GB / 2x8GB of Geil DDR3 12800 10-10-10-28
Samsung SH-S182D DVD-RW drive / Sony Optiarc BD-5300S BD-RW drive
Western Digital WD1501FASS(Primary)/Western Digital 15EADS(Secondary)/Western Digital 7500AACS(Secondary)/Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320gb(Secondary)
Antec TP-550 / CoolerMaster CMStacker
Sound Blaster X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty Professional / Creative Inspire 6600 6.1 speakers
Samsugn T200HD 20" LCD Monitor / Logitech Internet 350 Black Keyboard
Logitech MX510 Mouse

xProg

I can't get down the Voltage for cpu in BIOS. All i can get down is -0.100V...Is there a other way to get this CPU working on my old motherboard ?...I can't send back the cpu to newegg.com beacause i'm from Europe, Moldova..

Liqourice

If it's not supported it's not much you can do really. A new motherboard is probably the only solution.

xProg

damn...I'll have to stay on the old CPU, anyway i play race driver: Grid on 800x600 all on medium AAx2 and i get 13-20 fps...it is good for my old CPU ..and i played FIFA 09...all graphics on HIGH, 1024x768(maximum resolution for my monitor), and i got 20-45 fps !! I'll test and Assassin's Creed, Crysis(NOT Warhead), COD4 and i'll see the result..

xProg

tried assassin's creed and i get 10-15 fps with all texture to minimum 640x480, COD4 20-30FPS all on medium resolution 800x600 AAx4, Crysis 15-25 fps 800x600 all on minimum AAx0.