New ATI Radeon HD4650 driver wont install?!?

TXMarko

Little Help?


OS: Windows XP Pro, build 2600 SP3
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.8GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM
PSU: Antec NeoPower 550 Watt


Summary: Old AGP vid card went bad, replaced with the ATI Radeon 4600 AGP. Tried to install the ATI Display Driver Suite and got the following error message:
"SEVERE: Setup did not find a driver compatible with your current hardware or OS. Install will now exit."



Installed Omega Drivers v4.8.442 and mobo drivers.

Set BIOS to auto-detect AGP speed, nope. Set BIOS to 8x AGP, reboot, nope.


No errors detected in DXDIAG or in Device Manager.


Odd thing is that since installing the new AGP card, my CPU Usage stays in the 60% to 80% range AT IDLE.



It seems like the mobo and vidcard are fighting each each other.....

What gives? Any ideas?

SeraphicSorcerer

Sounds like you need the hot fix driver.....

Catalyst AGP Hotfix - Radeon HD 3000 and Radeon HD 2000 Series AGP products

If you're not sure if those will work, Check your manufacturer's website.

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TXMarko

Thanks for replying!

I downloaded the hotfix from the link you provided and the ATI Catalyst installed correctly! Woo Hoo!

Unfortunately, I still have the AGP hardware conflict that is hammering my CPU (70% at idle!).

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Here is CCC Graphics Hardware Information:

Primary Adapter
Graphics Card Manufacturer Powered by ATI
Graphics Chipset ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series
Device ID 9495
Vendor 1002

Subsystem ID 0028
Subsystem Vendor ID 1458

Graphics Bus Capability AGP
Maximum Bus Setting AGP 8X

BIOS Version 011.021.000.006
BIOS Part Number 113-AAXXXXX-XXX
BIOS Date 2009/04/08

Memory Size 1024 MB
Memory Type DDR2

Core Clock in MHz 600 MHz
Memory Clock in MHz 400 MHz
Total Memory Bandwidth in GByte/s 12.8 GByte/s

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Here is CCC Graphics Software info:

Driver Packaging Version 8.65-090813a-087742E-ATI
Catalyst™ Version 09.9
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 6.14.10.6999
2D Driver File Path System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Video/{1A56A31D-4A93-4C2A-BF41-C1CD0F8DF9D5}/0000
Direct3D Version 6.14.10.0697
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.8918
Catalyst™ Control Center Version 2009.0813.2131.36817
AIW/VIVO WDM Driver Version 6.14.10.6238
AIW/VIVO WDM SP Driver Version 6.14.10.6238
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SMARTGART reports that:

Fastwrite, AGP Read/Write, and PCI Read/Write are all set to "ON", but the "Currently" Field shows the "ON" greyed out.

Also, the AGP Speed is set to 8X, but the "Current AGP Speed" shows 8X greyed out as well.

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Where to go next? Install the Omega Drivers v4.8.442 (after uninstalling CCC)?

SeraphicSorcerer

That could be motherboard drivers/smartgart Drivers, I would suggest updating them. And then reinstall the hotfix drivers, your card is to new for the Omegas, as they are nearing 2 years in age.

I would suggest a complete reinstall of motherboard drivers, then reinstall the graphics drivers.

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TXMarko

Once again, thanks for the reply!

Quick question:

I have attempted to replace my Mobo chipset drivers with the "original" CD that came with the Mobo (circa 2001). When I insert the CD, it just comes up that they are already installed, and will not allow me to proceed.

I have already downloaded the "Final" update for these drivers from NVidia & Gigabyte.

Do I have to replace them while in Safe Mode or anything, or can I simply run the installer and reboot following completion?

I get the feeling I may be missing something simple here; forest for the trees, and all that.

SeraphicSorcerer

That could be motherboard drivers/smartgart Drivers, I would suggest updating them. And then reinstall the hotfix drivers, your card is to new for the Omegas, as they are nearing 2 years in age.

I would suggest a complete reinstall of motherboard drivers, then reinstall the graphics drivers.

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SeraphicSorcerer

That could be motherboard drivers/smartgart Drivers, I would suggest updating them. And then reinstall the hotfix drivers, your card is to new for the Omegas, as they are nearing 2 years in age.

I would suggest a complete reinstall of motherboard drivers, then reinstall the graphics drivers.

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TXMarko

Reinstalled latest Mobo drivers.

Reinstalled latest hotfix from ATI.

No change to the CPU just grindng away....
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Here is what I find in the Conflicts/Sharing tab of System Information:


I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 PCI bus
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 Direct memory access controller

I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF NVIDIA nForce3 250 AGP Host to PCI Bridge
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series

IRQ 21 Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
IRQ 21 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller

IRQ 22 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
IRQ 22 Realtek AC'97 Audio

I/O Port 0x00009000-0x0000AFFF PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
I/O Port 0x00009000-0x0000AFFF Unibrain driver / OHCI Compatible Board

IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
IRQ 9 NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management

IRQ 16 ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series
IRQ 16 Unibrain driver / OHCI Compatible Board

Memory Address 0xE0000000-0xEFFFFFFF NVIDIA nForce3 250 AGP Host to PCI Bridge
Memory Address 0xE0000000-0xEFFFFFFF ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series

Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF PCI bus
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF NVIDIA nForce3 250 AGP Host to PCI Bridge
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series

I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB NVIDIA nForce3 250 AGP Host to PCI Bridge
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series

I/O Port 0x00008000-0x00008FFF NVIDIA nForce3 250 AGP Host to PCI Bridge
I/O Port 0x00008000-0x00008FFF ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series

Anything look suspicious?

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I cannot understand why this install is turning out to be so complex!

AGP is old technology... it's not like I am trying to split atoms or overclock anything here...

At this point I am considering going to Newegg and buying a replacement NVidia GeForce 6600 card as ATI/Radeon does not appear to have their stuff in one bag....

DJ BIG T

are you still using omega drivers? if so take uninstall that driver and add the newest ati drivers then add your hot fix..

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TXMarko

Nice catch! I thought I had gotten all Omega drivers out, but apparently not.

Uninstalled all Omegas. Reboot.

Reinstalled ATI drivers from the CD the board came with. Reboot.

Installed 9.9 AGP hotfix. Reboot.

CPU is still almost pegged out at idle, ATI CCC SMARTGART AGP current settings are still greyed out.

Only noticeable change is that now my monitor is set to an almost unreadable 1280 x 960 resolution.

Can I provide any info at all here that may help resolve this before I sell this ATI card at my next garage sale?

By the way, yesterday I removed the ATI Radeon and reinstalled my old NVidia GeForce 6600. After the Hardware Wizard found the drivers, I was doing just fine until it froze up, which is the reason I got a new card.....

As soon as I put the Radeon back in, the CPU problem came right back.

SeraphicSorcerer

Well any time you switch manufactuerers you have to clean everything out.

If the settings are greyed out sounds to me like smartgart was not installed correctly.

I believe ATI has smartgart drivers on their website, have you tried them directly? Did you update your motherboard drivers??? (Not necessarily the ones from the website either. I had *lot* of problems with Nforce 3 Boards and getting them to correctly video accelerate. I can only suggest trying the nforce remix drivers @ guru3d.com or trying theirs. They also should have the AGP driver for your system.

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TXMarko

Thanks, I'll check the guru site and see if there is something there.

Otherwise,

Anybody interested in buying a -

"Single Slot ATI HD 4000 series AGP solution"?

Gigabyte GV-R465D2-1GI
Radeon HD 4650
1GB GDDR2
AGP 8X
HDCP Ready Video Card... cheap?

I paid $89.99 to Newegg last month....

... make me a reasonable offer?

ix9

I can't get mine (asus ah 4650-their version of radeon HD 4650 AGP) to work either. And I think that "hotfix" is for the 4000 SERIES cards, not the 4600 series, so the "hotfix" isn't designed to fix this issue anyways. I think I'm just going to RMA it and get a different non ati agp card.

Tipstaff

ix9 and TXMarko: check out my response in the other thread HERE. Might shed some light on the problem for both of you.

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ix9

Hey thanks to tipstaff I finally got it working, check out my post in my thread for full instructions. I have an Nforce 3 motherboard, and the onboard audio was basically conflicting, believe it or not, with the ATI cards audio. Oh well, its worth a shot to check out.