Need beta testers...

Omegadrive · Aug 2, 2003, 08:06 PM

I'm releasing an updated driver tonigh, but need beta testers with the following problems:

* Could not install the 2.4.74 drivers normally, it says your card is not supported.

* Have a game problem with the Omega drivers but it works fine with the normal Cat 3.6.

* Someone with a Medion 9600 TX card.

Here is the link for the test set (14.5MB):
http://downloads.driverheaven.net/om...mega_2474a.exe

If they work correctly I'll make them official.

Let me know what happens

Chaos · Aug 2, 2003, 08:19 PM

hummmm, I don't have any opengl extension based games installed at the moment but would be willing to install a couple Q3 based games and give them a run through if you think it will be any help

PS: I don't have HL or CS

~~HawK~~ · Aug 2, 2003, 08:27 PM

Gonne try them now
do you want me to uninstall the previous omega's (2.4.74) to test if the "could not install" works now?

Omegadrive · Aug 2, 2003, 08:39 PM

Yes please, if you can, completely uninstall all previous drivers and use driver cleaner.

~~HawK~~ · Aug 2, 2003, 09:02 PM

So all done

did do a full uninstall, after restart installed the new omega 24.74a, no problems
restarted, needed to install again via HWWizard did not need a restart, no problems
did need to install the monitor i'm using
ran Village mark d3d... no problems
ran Village mark ogl .. no problems
ran HL (ogl) & SSam2 (ogl) no problem

my System:
MoBo = Shuttle AK32a
PSU = Q-tec 550 watt
Via drivers: 448 (Hyperion)
mem = 2x 256mb_cl2.5 Hyund. DDR266mhz
Cpu = Amd Athlon 1600xp+
HD = Seagate Barracuda ATA-IV 80Gb
WD- 800JB 80Gb
Vid = Ati9700 driver: 24.74a (Omega) Secondary disabled
OS = W2000 sp4 DX9b
Sound = Hercules FortissimoIII 7.1

BuddMan · Aug 3, 2003, 12:41 AM

I see the new tweak tool. What does it do that the ATI control panel doesn't do? Should we mess with the settings or will that affect the tweaks you put in your drivers? Also see the nice option for triple buffering in OpenGL, that's a big plus. I see where you got the tool from, but is there an English version of it?

Anyway, I can definately see an improvement in OpenGL. I only tried Jedi Outcast but it runs much smoother than before. I think the triple buffering feature helped with that. Installation of the driver was painless and I did not encounter any problems. This was after uninstalling the previous driver install and then running driver cleaner in safe mode. BF1942 works without probs. C and C Generals works as well. Have not tried NWNs nor anything else as I don't have time right now, but so far so good. Now if only ATI will enable DDC support again so I can use NaviSet with my CRT....

Omegadrive · Aug 3, 2003, 12:51 AM

BuddMan, I'll be releasing the info regarding the tool and it's purpose when the final release is done

Does it shows in another language for you? Strange, I included the english file with it... I'll investigate that...

Robert McClelland · Aug 3, 2003, 01:56 AM

Soon you get English file fix I try them

I don't like the driver cleaning because get rid of defult xp driver for unstalling the currect drivers which you need to installed the new drivers with. What kinda new tweak you have with that new beta set?

Necrosis · Aug 3, 2003, 02:04 AM

So far so good Omega...

cOoLeRgUy · Aug 3, 2003, 05:10 AM

hey omega, been waiting to finally catch you

.. anyhow.. about your 9800 hack.. (don't worry this isn't one of those lame "i'm-new-to-omega's-drivers-and-this-question-has-been-answered-several-times-and-does-this-hack-really-change my-video-card-to-a-9800-pro-

" questions)

.. if you go to Display Properties > Settings > Advanced > Adapter:
The Rivatuner (Version 2.0 Release Candidate 12.4) 9700->9800 software mod patches the 9700 to Chip Type: RADEON 9800 AGP Chip type (0x4e45)
The Omegas 9700->9800 software mod patches the 9700 to Chip Type: RADEON 9800 AGP Chip type (0x4e44)

I'm just wondering if this has any effect on performance. Would it perform better to have a later chip type?

Omegadrive · Aug 3, 2003, 07:32 AM

That's only the chipset ID, it doesn't make any difference as far as I know.

BWX · Aug 3, 2003, 02:14 PM

I guess I should have downloaded them before- The link doesn't seem t be working now.

Lock · Aug 3, 2003, 02:43 PM

* Someone with a Medion 9600 TX card

I used to work for the company for a number of years tho i don't have one of these cards, if I remember right the .inf file for the card is customised and they use a Medion printed PCB, usually Gigabyte

Let me know what u need and i'll see what i can do, sadly can't get stock,

HENNESSY · Aug 3, 2003, 03:52 PM

I tried them on the Medion card and they work

Neogenic · Aug 3, 2003, 03:59 PM

Omegadrive, will the new version for Win9x have the 9500/9700>9800 Hack?

BuddMan · Aug 3, 2003, 05:41 PM

Omega, all of the settings are in English, but I can't read the about info, it's all in German. Probably the tool and not your fault. Everything is working fine though, CS is playing like a champ, so is UT2003. BTW I have an AIW 9700 and am using the hacked version of the drivers.

Speed316 · Aug 3, 2003, 06:14 PM

Unfortunately your Drivers have never been able to install on my system. I always run into the following error:

" This Display Driver is not Compatible with the display adapter(s) installed in your system "

There have only ever been 2 Catalyst sets which have installed normally on my system, these being Cat 2.4 and Cat 3.6.

For every other driver set I had to install them via the control panel/system/Hardware/Device Manager.

Here's some of my system Specs which may be useful:-

P4 1.9
512mb PC2100
Gigabyte Maya II Radeon 9700 Pro
Mobo - ASUS P4B266-LA
(It's a HP computer )

plehto · Aug 3, 2003, 06:28 PM

I had the same problem, but it disappeared when i flashed my graphics card with the original bios, so that it would recognize as 9500pro/9700. Installing hacked drivers for 9700 pro or never is a disaster

DaWizeGuy · Aug 3, 2003, 07:08 PM

Ok, I've installed the drivers and so far they work perfect

Direct3D games tested:

1. Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness: Playing at 1024x768x32 with 4x FSAA. All details maxed out (32 bit textures, shadows etc.) I get a consistent 40-60 FPS which is faster than the Catalyst 3.6.

2. NOLF 2. No visual artifacts. I'm playing at 1600x1200x32 with 4x FSAA and 8x AF. Getting 40+ FPS.

OpenGL games tested.

1. Jedi Knight 2. Playing at 1600x1200x32 with 4x FSAA and 16x AF. Getting 100+ FPS most of the time, dropping to 50-80 FPS during heavy gunfights. Faster than the Catalyst 3.6 drivers.

2. Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy (don't ask me how I got it). Playing at 1024x768x32 no FSAA or AF. Getting 40+ FPS most of the time, all detail maxed out.

I'll test Morrowind and a couiple of other OpenGL games and report back later.

System:

Asus P4P800. Bios 1008.
Intel Pentium4 2.53@3.02 GHz (158 MHz FSB QDR)
2*256 MB Samsung DDR400 CL3
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro 128 mb (not OC'ed)
SB Audigy2 Platinum

Omegadrive · Aug 3, 2003, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BuddMan
Omega, all of the settings are in English, but I can't read the about info, it's all in German. Probably the tool and not your fault. Everything is working fine though, CS is playing like a champ, so is UT2003. BTW I have an AIW 9700 and am using the hacked version of the drivers.

That is normal, only the "about" is in German, but what I wanted to know was if the settings where in english, and at least they are, thanks for the info.

Speed316, that's strange since this time I used the pure Cat 3.6 installation file, so they should install now.

********************************
To Everyone, seems that this is "the" release, I'll be posting it now as official.

Many thanks to all of you who participated!

This thread is now closed! Expect the official release thread...

Aug 2, 2003, 08:06 PM	#1
Omegadrive Drivers? What Drivers??? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 1,526 Rep Power: 75	Need beta testers... I'm releasing an updated driver tonigh, but need beta testers with the following problems: * Could not install the 2.4.74 drivers normally, it says your card is not supported. * Have a game problem with the Omega drivers but it works fine with the normal Cat 3.6. * Someone with a Medion 9600 TX card. Here is the link for the test set (14.5MB): http://downloads.driverheaven.net/om...mega_2474a.exe If they work correctly I'll make them official. Let me know what happens __________________ DRIVERHEAVEN ADMINISTRATOR <<E-MAIL>> <<PC SPECS>> GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

Aug 2, 2003, 08:19 PM	#2
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	hummmm, I don't have any opengl extension based games installed at the moment but would be willing to install a couple Q3 based games and give them a run through if you think it will be any help PS: I don't have HL or CS __________________

Aug 2, 2003, 08:39 PM	Thread Starter #4
Omegadrive Drivers? What Drivers??? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 1,526 Rep Power: 75	Yes please, if you can, completely uninstall all previous drivers and use driver cleaner. __________________ DRIVERHEAVEN ADMINISTRATOR <<E-MAIL>> <<PC SPECS>> GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

Aug 3, 2003, 12:51 AM	Thread Starter #7
Omegadrive Drivers? What Drivers??? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 1,526 Rep Power: 75	BuddMan, I'll be releasing the info regarding the tool and it's purpose when the final release is done Does it shows in another language for you? Strange, I included the english file with it... I'll investigate that... __________________ DRIVERHEAVEN ADMINISTRATOR <<E-MAIL>> <<PC SPECS>> GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

Aug 3, 2003, 01:56 AM	#8
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,673 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	Soon you get English file fix I try them I don't like the driver cleaning because get rid of defult xp driver for unstalling the currect drivers which you need to installed the new drivers with. What kinda new tweak you have with that new beta set? __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png correct the correct one now

Aug 2, 2003, 08:27 PM	#3
~~HawK~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,092 Rep Power: 0	Gonne try them now do you want me to uninstall the previous omega's (2.4.74) to test if the "could not install" works now?

Aug 2, 2003, 09:02 PM	#5
~~HawK~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,092 Rep Power: 0	So all done did do a full uninstall, after restart installed the new omega 24.74a, no problems restarted, needed to install again via HWWizard did not need a restart, no problems did need to install the monitor i'm using ran Village mark d3d... no problems ran Village mark ogl .. no problems ran HL (ogl) & SSam2 (ogl) no problem my System: MoBo = Shuttle AK32a PSU = Q-tec 550 watt Via drivers: 448 (Hyperion) mem = 2x 256mb_cl2.5 Hyund. DDR266mhz Cpu = Amd Athlon 1600xp+ HD = Seagate Barracuda ATA-IV 80Gb WD- 800JB 80Gb Vid = Ati9700 driver: 24.74a (Omega) Secondary disabled OS = W2000 sp4 DX9b Sound = Hercules FortissimoIII 7.1

Aug 3, 2003, 12:41 AM	#6
BuddMan DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	I see the new tweak tool. What does it do that the ATI control panel doesn't do? Should we mess with the settings or will that affect the tweaks you put in your drivers? Also see the nice option for triple buffering in OpenGL, that's a big plus. I see where you got the tool from, but is there an English version of it? Anyway, I can definately see an improvement in OpenGL. I only tried Jedi Outcast but it runs much smoother than before. I think the triple buffering feature helped with that. Installation of the driver was painless and I did not encounter any problems. This was after uninstalling the previous driver install and then running driver cleaner in safe mode. BF1942 works without probs. C and C Generals works as well. Have not tried NWNs nor anything else as I don't have time right now, but so far so good. Now if only ATI will enable DDC support again so I can use NaviSet with my CRT....

Aug 3, 2003, 02:04 AM	#9
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	So far so good Omega...

Aug 3, 2003, 05:10 AM	#10
cOoLeRgUy DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 51 Rep Power: 0	hey omega, been waiting to finally catch you .. anyhow.. about your 9800 hack.. (don't worry this isn't one of those lame "i'm-new-to-omega's-drivers-and-this-question-has-been-answered-several-times-and-does-this-hack-really-change my-video-card-to-a-9800-pro-" questions) .. if you go to Display Properties > Settings > Advanced > Adapter: The Rivatuner (Version 2.0 Release Candidate 12.4) 9700->9800 software mod patches the 9700 to Chip Type: RADEON 9800 AGP Chip type (0x4e45) The Omegas 9700->9800 software mod patches the 9700 to Chip Type: RADEON 9800 AGP Chip type (0x4e44) I'm just wondering if this has any effect on performance. Would it perform better to have a later chip type?

Aug 3, 2003, 07:32 AM	Thread Starter #11
Omegadrive Drivers? What Drivers??? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 1,526 Rep Power: 75	That's only the chipset ID, it doesn't make any difference as far as I know. __________________ DRIVERHEAVEN ADMINISTRATOR <<E-MAIL>> <<PC SPECS>> GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

Aug 3, 2003, 02:14 PM	#12
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	I guess I should have downloaded them before- The link doesn't seem t be working now. __________________

Aug 3, 2003, 02:43 PM	#13
Lock DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	* Someone with a Medion 9600 TX card I used to work for the company for a number of years tho i don't have one of these cards, if I remember right the .inf file for the card is customised and they use a Medion printed PCB, usually Gigabyte Let me know what u need and i'll see what i can do, sadly can't get stock,

Aug 3, 2003, 03:52 PM	#14
HENNESSY DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 0	I tried them on the Medion card and they work

Aug 3, 2003, 03:59 PM	#15
Neogenic DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Omegadrive, will the new version for Win9x have the 9500/9700>9800 Hack?

Aug 3, 2003, 05:41 PM	#16
BuddMan DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	Omega, all of the settings are in English, but I can't read the about info, it's all in German. Probably the tool and not your fault. Everything is working fine though, CS is playing like a champ, so is UT2003. BTW I have an AIW 9700 and am using the hacked version of the drivers.

Aug 3, 2003, 06:14 PM	#17
Speed316 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Unfortunately your Drivers have never been able to install on my system. I always run into the following error: " This Display Driver is not Compatible with the display adapter(s) installed in your system " There have only ever been 2 Catalyst sets which have installed normally on my system, these being Cat 2.4 and Cat 3.6. For every other driver set I had to install them via the control panel/system/Hardware/Device Manager. Here's some of my system Specs which may be useful:- P4 1.9 512mb PC2100 Gigabyte Maya II Radeon 9700 Pro Mobo - ASUS P4B266-LA (It's a HP computer )

Aug 3, 2003, 06:28 PM	#18
plehto DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I had the same problem, but it disappeared when i flashed my graphics card with the original bios, so that it would recognize as 9500pro/9700. Installing hacked drivers for 9700 pro or never is a disaster

Aug 3, 2003, 07:08 PM	#19
DaWizeGuy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Ok, I've installed the drivers and so far they work perfect Direct3D games tested: 1. Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness: Playing at 1024x768x32 with 4x FSAA. All details maxed out (32 bit textures, shadows etc.) I get a consistent 40-60 FPS which is faster than the Catalyst 3.6. 2. NOLF 2. No visual artifacts. I'm playing at 1600x1200x32 with 4x FSAA and 8x AF. Getting 40+ FPS. OpenGL games tested. 1. Jedi Knight 2. Playing at 1600x1200x32 with 4x FSAA and 16x AF. Getting 100+ FPS most of the time, dropping to 50-80 FPS during heavy gunfights. Faster than the Catalyst 3.6 drivers. 2. Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy (don't ask me how I got it). Playing at 1024x768x32 no FSAA or AF. Getting 40+ FPS most of the time, all detail maxed out. I'll test Morrowind and a couiple of other OpenGL games and report back later. System: Asus P4P800. Bios 1008. Intel Pentium4 2.53@3.02 GHz (158 MHz FSB QDR) 2*256 MB Samsung DDR400 CL3 Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro 128 mb (not OC'ed) SB Audigy2 Platinum