Anti aliasing on or off?

Darkfox3889 · Aug 30, 2003, 06:26 AM

I noticed that unless I set anti aliasing to application preference I have trouble running splinter cell correctly. I was wondering if it is recomemded to have aa on application preference all the time or not. I have a radeon 9700 and have never had fps problems with aa on.

Vampyromaniac · Aug 30, 2003, 06:34 AM

I think Splinter Cell has a known problem with AA, and it's recommended to turn it off for this game.

Necrosis · Aug 30, 2003, 06:50 AM

Normally people have to turn it off but if you're one of the lucky few..try running it at a high res. and turn AA back on.

~~Optimummind~~ · Aug 30, 2003, 09:46 AM

antialiasing at all. The way the game was programmed, it doesn't support it. I can't find the link where the developer stated this but if I find it, I'll post it. This means you'll just have to set it to ''Application Preference" for ATI cards. As for nVIDIA cards, you don't have to do anything. Even if you were to set AA to 2x, Quincunx, 4x, or whatever, the driver won't actually run AA but the AA setting will be ignored once you're in the game.

Kgentatszu] · Aug 30, 2003, 10:06 AM

hey, yup, tried turning on twice but no luck----> HANG!

anyway, is this a bug og somesort or a driver issue???

~~craig588~~ · Aug 30, 2003, 03:27 PM

A bug with the game, its a lousy port.

Darkfox3889 · Aug 30, 2003, 03:30 PM

Thanks for your help I will just disable aa for splinter cell. Also I have a problem with the lastest cats in midnight club 2 when the game locks up 5 mins into playing it. Does anyone know a work around for this?

Sherv · Sep 2, 2003, 01:49 AM

Splinter Cell does work with AA with Radeon 9700, you turn AA to ''Application Preference", then when your in the game you'll get the light sources appearing through walls, just turn nightvision off and on a couple of times to fix this problem, I know its a hassle but it works.

~~craig588~~ · Sep 2, 2003, 01:58 AM

Application preference=Off. (ATI should have worded that better)

Darkfox3889 · Sep 2, 2003, 03:10 AM

sherv the light goes through the wall unless i turn aa off. and when you select application preference it turns aa off.

~~Optimummind~~ · Sep 2, 2003, 04:33 AM

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Originally posted by Sherv
Splinter Cell does work with AA with Radeon 9700, you turn AA to ''Application Preference", then when your in the game you'll get the light sources appearing through walls, just turn nightvision off and on a couple of times to fix this problem, I know its a hassle but it works.

Can you post 2 pictures of Splinter Cell with one picture having no AA and one picture with AA on?? Make sure you use the same resolution and the same location when taking pics.

Darkfox3889 · Sep 2, 2003, 05:21 AM

what sherv said is wrong splinter cell doesnt work with aa if you read what he said he says you have to set aa to application preference which turns aa off

Dragunov · Sep 2, 2003, 07:20 AM

Maybe they can add a feature in the driver and if he recognizes Splinter Cell, the driver doesn't use the AA, a little bit like Nvidia

Dragunov

Shadow Lady · Sep 2, 2003, 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by craig588
Application preference=Off. (ATI should have worded that better)

not exactly, since application preference makes it default off, but in game where u can change it into the game like NeverWinter Nights, or Max Payne or Hitman 2, or whatever game it works, and is the only way to change the AA into game.

Sherv · Sep 2, 2003, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by Darkfox3889
what sherv said is wrong splinter cell doesnt work with aa if you read what he said he says you have to set aa to application preference which turns aa off

It turns it off in most games, but trust me in works in Splinter Cell. I've been playing this game with AA on for ages, I'm not lying, why should I. BTW, I don't know how to upload images to the web, if someone knows how, could they please give me a discription on how to do it.

~~Optimummind~~ · Sep 2, 2003, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by Sherv
It turns it off in most games, but trust me in works in Splinter Cell. I've been playing this game with AA on for ages, I'm not lying, why should I. BTW, I don't know how to upload images to the web, if someone knows how, could they please give me a discription on how to do it.

Sherv, if you send me the game images of Splinter Cell (with AA on and with AA off at the same location), I'll upload it here. The reason I'm skeptical is because the game developer themselves (Ubisoft) have stated that Splinter Cell doesn't support AA with current video cards.

Sherv · Sep 3, 2003, 05:00 PM

No probs, whats your email address?

~~Optimummind~~ · Sep 3, 2003, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sherv
No probs, whats your email address?

I sent you my email address through PM. Check there.

*OpenGL guy* · Sep 5, 2003, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sherv
It turns it off in most games, but trust me in works in Splinter Cell. I've been playing this game with AA on for ages, I'm not lying, why should I. BTW, I don't know how to upload images to the web, if someone knows how, could they please give me a discription on how to do it.

Splinter Cell doesn't support AA, whether from the application or the driver. If you want to avoid issues with this game, use the D3D control panel to set AA to "Application preference" to disable AA.

Sherv · Sep 5, 2003, 04:40 PM

Ubi Soft might not support AA in splinter cell, but it works on my machine. BTW Optimummind, I sent you the images before and after with AA on and off, if you have time could you post them, to show I'm not talking shit.

~~Optimummind~~ · Sep 6, 2003, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sherv
Ubi Soft might not support AA in splinter cell, but it works on my machine. BTW Optimummind, I sent you the images before and after with AA on and off, if you have time could you post them, to show I'm not talking shit.

I got your pictures but I think you chose a wrong place to take pictures. I mean, the scene is too dark and you don't have many edges in your environments. I'll post your pictures later though. I'll also post an example picture of the kind of scene environment I'm talking about. But trust me, the Ubisoft development team themselves have stated that AA doesn't work. I just wish I still had the link to the statement.

BWX · Sep 6, 2003, 08:19 AM

A game without AA is like a girl without boobs-- just doesn't look very good!

Sherv · Sep 6, 2003, 02:24 PM

LOL!!

BTW Optimummind, I'll send you other pics, during the day if you like.

Kgentatszu] · Sep 6, 2003, 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by BWX232
A game without AA is like a girl without boobs-- just doesn't look very good!

yea, agreed but, in my opinion, the requirements to run this game is just too high......even with AA off....

~~craig588~~ · Sep 6, 2003, 04:25 PM

yeah, I get my performance killed in some areas of the game. I wonder if it happened on the xbox? If it didn't they they made an absoloutly terrible port.

tek · Sep 6, 2003, 04:33 PM

I play AA x 4 and AF x 8 24/7 on a 9500pro, and I get through games with great FPS, 100fps is my lowest ever on SOFII since I overclocked to 2.2ghz.

Kgentatszu] · Sep 7, 2003, 10:40 AM

tek, you mean Splinter cell????

BuddMan · Sep 7, 2003, 04:01 PM

Erm....I'd really like to see these shots, because any vid card, nVidia or ATI, cannot run AA with the game (or they can but then you get the lighting problem, heh).

~~craig588~~ · Sep 7, 2003, 04:18 PM

Tek, thats SOFII. I get 100FPS on it too. Different games have different requirements. SOFII doesn't have nearly as many calculations as spliter cell does.

~~Optimummind~~ · Sep 7, 2003, 11:10 PM

Here are the two pics that Sherv sent me (sorry for taking a while before posting). He didin't tell me which pics were with AA on and AA off. You can, however, see in both pictures that aliasing is occurring. In one picture, the aliasing effect on the roof of the car is profound. In the other, however, that part of the car is not receiving any light to make a comparison not very useful. Well, here are the pics:

Aug 30, 2003, 06:26 AM	#1
Darkfox3889 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: CA Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	Anti aliasing on or off? I noticed that unless I set anti aliasing to application preference I have trouble running splinter cell correctly. I was wondering if it is recomemded to have aa on application preference all the time or not. I have a radeon 9700 and have never had fps problems with aa on.

Aug 30, 2003, 06:34 AM	#2
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	I think Splinter Cell has a known problem with AA, and it's recommended to turn it off for this game. __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Aug 30, 2003, 09:46 AM	#4
~~Optimummind~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Orange, California Posts: 632 Rep Power: 0	Splinter Cell does not support antialiasing at all. The way the game was programmed, it doesn't support it. I can't find the link where the developer stated this but if I find it, I'll post it. This means you'll just have to set it to ''Application Preference" for ATI cards. As for nVIDIA cards, you don't have to do anything. Even if you were to set AA to 2x, Quincunx, 4x, or whatever, the driver won't actually run AA but the AA setting will be ignored once you're in the game.

Aug 30, 2003, 03:30 PM	Thread Starter #7
Darkfox3889 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: CA Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	thanks Thanks for your help I will just disable aa for splinter cell. Also I have a problem with the lastest cats in midnight club 2 when the game locks up 5 mins into playing it. Does anyone know a work around for this?

Sep 2, 2003, 07:20 AM	#13
Dragunov DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 316 Rep Power: 0	Maybe they can add a feature in the driver and if he recognizes Splinter Cell, the driver doesn't use the AA, a little bit like Nvidia Dragunov __________________ - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 + Zalman 9700 LED - MSI P6N (Nvidia 680i chipset), BIOS: P33 - 2GB DDR2 ram Corsair Dominator 1066Mhz - MSI Geforce 8800GTS 640MB - Creative X-Fi Elite Pro - Seagate 320GB 7200/10 - WD Caviar 750GB - Logitech MX-518 - Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit NL

Aug 30, 2003, 06:50 AM	#3
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Normally people have to turn it off but if you're one of the lucky few..try running it at a high res. and turn AA back on.

Aug 30, 2003, 10:06 AM	#5
Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	hey, yup, tried turning on twice but no luck----> HANG! anyway, is this a bug og somesort or a driver issue???

Aug 30, 2003, 03:27 PM	#6
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	A bug with the game, its a lousy port.

Sep 2, 2003, 01:49 AM	#8
Sherv DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	Splinter Cell does work with AA with Radeon 9700, you turn AA to ''Application Preference", then when your in the game you'll get the light sources appearing through walls, just turn nightvision off and on a couple of times to fix this problem, I know its a hassle but it works.

Sep 2, 2003, 01:58 AM	#9
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	Application preference=Off. (ATI should have worded that better)

Sep 2, 2003, 03:10 AM	Thread Starter #10
Darkfox3889 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: CA Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	sherv the light goes through the wall unless i turn aa off. and when you select application preference it turns aa off.

Sep 2, 2003, 05:21 AM	Thread Starter #12
Darkfox3889 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: CA Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	what sherv said is wrong splinter cell doesnt work with aa if you read what he said he says you have to set aa to application preference which turns aa off

Sep 3, 2003, 05:00 PM	#17
Sherv DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	No probs, whats your email address?

Sep 5, 2003, 04:40 PM	#20
Sherv DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	Ubi Soft might not support AA in splinter cell, but it works on my machine. BTW Optimummind, I sent you the images before and after with AA on and off, if you have time could you post them, to show I'm not talking shit.

Sep 6, 2003, 08:19 AM	#22
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	A game without AA is like a girl without boobs-- just doesn't look very good! __________________

Sep 6, 2003, 02:24 PM	#23
Sherv DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	LOL!! BTW Optimummind, I'll send you other pics, during the day if you like.

Sep 6, 2003, 04:25 PM	#25
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	yeah, I get my performance killed in some areas of the game. I wonder if it happened on the xbox? If it didn't they they made an absoloutly terrible port.

Sep 6, 2003, 04:33 PM	#26
tek DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, US Posts: 2,103 Rep Power: 0	I play AA x 4 and AF x 8 24/7 on a 9500pro, and I get through games with great FPS, 100fps is my lowest ever on SOFII since I overclocked to 2.2ghz. __________________ [COLOR=White][/COLOR]

Sep 7, 2003, 10:40 AM	#27
Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	tek, you mean Splinter cell????

Sep 7, 2003, 04:01 PM	#28
BuddMan DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	Erm....I'd really like to see these shots, because any vid card, nVidia or ATI, cannot run AA with the game (or they can but then you get the lighting problem, heh).

Sep 7, 2003, 04:18 PM	#29
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	Tek, thats SOFII. I get 100FPS on it too. Different games have different requirements. SOFII doesn't have nearly as many calculations as spliter cell does.

Sep 7, 2003, 11:10 PM	#30
~~Optimummind~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Orange, California Posts: 632 Rep Power: 0	Here are the two pics that Sherv sent me (sorry for taking a while before posting). He didin't tell me which pics were with AA on and AA off. You can, however, see in both pictures that aliasing is occurring. In one picture, the aliasing effect on the roof of the car is profound. In the other, however, that part of the car is not receiving any light to make a comparison not very useful. Well, here are the pics: