Radeon Omega Drivers v2.4.78 for Win 2k/XP

kl33r · Sep 19, 2003, 02:46 PM

ATIoglxx.DL_

in Omega 2.4.78 which is based on Catalyst 3.7

in the OmegaDriverFolder\2KXP_INF\ATIOGLXX.DL_

LadFromWales85 · Sep 20, 2003, 08:08 AM

Hey all!

I have installed the Omega 3.7's, and so far I am extremely impressed with what I have seen.

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2 stuttered a lot and was very slow with the Cats 3.7's, but with the Omega 3.7's, the game rarely stutters and the framerate is much higher than it was before. Also, the scenary and reflections etc look much nicer than they did before.

I installed the 9700>9800 driver...What does it do? I presume it gives my 9700 Pro all the features of the 9800 Pro that were locked in the core?

Thanks, and great work Omega!

Shadow Lady · Sep 20, 2003, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kl33r
ATIoglxx.DL_

in Omega 2.4.78 which is based on Catalyst 3.7

in the OmegaDriverFolder\2KXP_INF\ATIOGLXX.DL_

h**p://shadowlady.100megsfree5.com/atioglxx.rar

just extract and rename it to atioglxx.dl_

wolfran · Sep 21, 2003, 02:55 AM

hi Omega,

I find your driver is the best out of all of them i've tried. You actually fixed the installation problem (card not supported probelm). Now i can do a clean install using your driver. This is really a major improvement. The IQ is also better than the cats and it is not slower. In some cases your driver is even faster.
The only minor problem i'm having is that i can't actually install the hacked driver. I chose the hacked 9700 during the installtion but my card is still being recognize as a 9700 pro. If i look into the ATI CP, it still says SMOOTHVISION II. Does you hack suppose to work on all cards or maybe some cards just can't use the hack?
Thanks again for the great driver.

btw my spec:
athlon xp 2600
sapphire 9700 np @340/301
a7n8x
corsair 512 mb ram
SB Audigy
winxp

LadFromWales85 · Sep 21, 2003, 07:49 AM

Look in the display control panel, on the 'Adaptor' tab...

Next to Chip Type it should say RADEON 9800 AGP (0x4E44) or similar

I believe that it correct...

Someone said it says Smoothvision 2.1 somewhere, but I dunno where to find that, any ideas???

What do the omegas do to improve on image quality by the way, I can see the difference, but I wanna know how its achieved. Also. what do the 9700>9800 drivers actually do?

Thanks

ree · Sep 21, 2003, 02:05 PM

I installed the latest omega and it support 9800SE...(v2.4.78a)

In 3Dmark2001SE, 200 points improvement...

In 3Dmark2003, 4 points improvement...

Previously, I was using v2.4.78 with self modify omega driver post on page 3 of the same forum...

wolfran · Sep 21, 2003, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadFromWales85
Look in the display control panel, on the 'Adaptor' tab...

Next to Chip Type it should say RADEON 9800 AGP (0x4E44) or similar

I believe that it correct...

Someone said it says Smoothvision 2.1 somewhere, but I dunno where to find that, any ideas???

What do the omegas do to improve on image quality by the way, I can see the difference, but I wanna know how its achieved. Also. what do the 9700>9800 drivers actually do?

Thanks

Mine says RADEON 9700 PRO in the 'adaptor' tab even though i install the omega driver using the hacked 9700 option. Is there something else that i need to do to use the hacked driver? or it just doesn't work on some 9700 np such as in the case of my sapphire 9700 np.
I don't think the new omega 2.4.78a fix this right?

wolfran · Sep 21, 2003, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wolfran
Mine says RADEON 9700 PRO in the 'adaptor' tab even though i install the omega driver using the hacked 9700 option. Is there something else that i need to do to use the hacked driver? or it just doesn't work on some 9700 np such as in the case of my sapphire 9700 np.
I don't think the new omega 2.4.78a fix this right?

sorry my mistake. The hacked driver is actually working. If i look at the 'adapter type' it still says RADEON 9700 PRO but if i look closely at the 'chip type', it actually says RADEON 9800 AGP (0X4E44). I can't see anywhere saying SMOOTHVISION 2.1 though. All it says in the opengl or direct3d tabs are SMOOTHVISION II. So is the 9700 -> 9800 hack actually working coz I see no difference as well?

thanks for the replies

Chaos · Sep 21, 2003, 03:20 PM

RADEON 9800 AGP (0X4E44) indicates it is being identified as a 9800 chip type

LadFromWales85 · Sep 21, 2003, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ree
I installed the latest omega and it support 9800SE...(v2.4.78a)

In 3Dmark2001SE, 200 points improvement...

In 3Dmark2003, 4 points improvement...

Previously, I was using v2.4.78 with self modify omega driver post on page 3 of the same forum...

Personally, I don't care about 3d mark results, I care about a decent smooth framerate, which I can achieve with these drivers

I may run it just because it looks nice, or if I do by chance want to compare the speeds between driver types/revisions

ryan328 · Sep 21, 2003, 08:50 PM

lastest driver 2.4.78a, ati taskbar icon is on by default again

Shadow Lady · Sep 21, 2003, 09:54 PM

and? just disable it from ATIO CP

LadFromWales85 · Sep 21, 2003, 10:05 PM

2.4.78a

Is that newer than the 2.4.78's that I got? And what difference is there?

Tyrant · Sep 22, 2003, 12:40 AM

What's New? (2.4.78a)
* Fixed the 9800 SE "not recognized" problem. (2k/XP)
* Fixed the missing Mobility Cards. (2k/XP)
* Added a new intro to the ATI drivers installation. (2k/XP)
* Disabled 32Bit Z buffer by default in D3D for low end cards (if you need it you can enable it anytime in the ATI CP). (2k/XP)
* Added the Moded driver for 9800SE cards.

LadFromWales85 · Sep 22, 2003, 12:43 AM

Nothin of any use to me with a 9700Pro then

I will upgrade next time I reinstall windows, since my nForce IDE drivers stop me using CD Mate also

Omegadrive · Sep 22, 2003, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ryan328
lastest driver 2.4.78a, ati taskbar icon is on by default again

Yes, I enabled it again because I have something cool coming up for my next set based on the Cat 3.8

(Also because I wanted to test if the icon was the reason the hotkeys where not working on my drivers)

Desert_Siege · Sep 22, 2003, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Omegadrive
Yes, I enabled it again because I have something cool coming up for my next set based on the Cat 3.8
(Also because I wanted to test if the icon was the reason the hotkeys where not working on my drivers)

Best set yet. Got me 600 points in 3Dmark 2k1 and 90 in 2k3 and IQ is good as ever. And to answer the hotkey thing, they seem to work for me now, so maybe that is it. They would not work in any of the previous releases, but seem to work now.
Thanks Omega.

[EDIT] These drivers put me 7th on the list with a 9700 Pro and a processor 2200Mhz and lower in 2K1. Great job Omega! [/EDIT]

BWX · Sep 22, 2003, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Desert_Siege
Best set yet. Got me 600 points in 3Dmark 2k1 and 90 in 2k3 and IQ is good as ever. And to answer the hotkey thing, they seem to work for me now, so maybe that is it. They would not work in any of the previous releases, but seem to work now.
Thanks Omega.

600pts. compared to what? Regular ATI drivers?

Desert_Siege · Sep 22, 2003, 07:35 AM

I think I may have found the cause, but not sure how to fix it. I know I am not the only one that has experienced this, but after installing drivers and restarting, your desktop is basically so slow it feels like its being drawn by etch a sketch. I experienced this when upgrading to Omega's latest set and it lasted almost 10 minutes before my monitor flickered a couple of times, went blank and came back on and all was well. I am almost positive that it is being caused by SmartGart not completing and not terminating either. The last time this happened (when upgrading to 3.7 ATI), it took 5 reboots and finally had to let it just sit for almost 30 minutes and it finally completed. Is there any way to stop this from happening. It seems like it disables pretty much everything until it completes, but once it does, all is well. I could be wrong, but I am almost positive the problem lies with SmartGart. Never encountered this until 2.45 Nforce drivers. I downgraded to 3.4 yesterday to test something, and the same thing happened again, but only lasted about 5 minutes before it flickered and came back on and all was well. Doesn't seem to be related to 3.7's, but SmartGart doesn't appear to cooperated with 2.45 Nforce drivers on my system for some reason.

Oh well, it was just an idea and it seems to work fine now, just annoying knowing that every time I change drivers, I will have to go through this, but at least I know eventually it will fix itself...heh.

Desert_Siege · Sep 22, 2003, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BWX232
600pts. compared to what? Regular ATI drivers?

Best 2k1 score I ever got was on 3.4's. This set topped that with all other hardware the same (I just benched the 3.4's last night at 17481 and actually had switched back to them for speed). The best I could muster with official 3.7's was 16785, so compared to the official driver, these were 1300 points better.

~~wk357mag~~ · Sep 22, 2003, 07:44 AM

This is a known issue with ATI and its SmartGart. I have written a guide, this being the best way to do it, works flawlessly everytime.

Studdering Graphics **Fixxed**

Desert_Siege · Sep 22, 2003, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wk357mag
This is a known issue with ATI and its SmartGart. I have writtena guide, this being the best way to do it, works flawlessly everytime.

Studdering Graphics **Fixxed**

Man, where were you when no one else could answer why it was happening...lol I will remember that and thanks for the info. I had assumed it was SmartGart and I believe your correct in assuming its Nforce driver related too...heh. I never had this problem until I upgraded to the 2.45's, but the next time I will follow your advice. Thx for the info.

~~wk357mag~~ · Sep 22, 2003, 07:57 AM

Sorry, to busy to watch all forums (work 2, own 1)(used to be more too)

Anyway, this has curred this issue for me and I recommend it to all. Just makes for a good install the first time.

I did just edit my original post there, to now read that it also includes Intel based mobo's. So not NV's fault.

BWX · Sep 22, 2003, 08:08 AM

I just got an NF7 last week, and I get that error message after the first reboot after a fresh install of the ATI drivers. I've been testing and noticed some stuttering in some places on some games. But I ran Smartgart once after I installed them, then let it stay on in services- Maybe I'll reinstall the Omegas and try again.

feitz · Sep 22, 2003, 09:18 AM

for the v2.4.78a omega driver, is there a 9800se->9800pro selection? or do i choose btw 9500->9700 or 9700->9800 drivers?

BWX · Sep 22, 2003, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by feitz
for the v2.4.78a omega driver, is there a 9800se->9800pro selection? or do i choose btw 9500->9700 or 9700->9800 drivers?

Now there is a 9800se option, I just saw it when I installed them an hour ago.

feitz · Sep 22, 2003, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BWX232
Now there is a 9800se option, I just saw it when I installed them an hour ago.

thanx a lot!

KTy · Sep 22, 2003, 07:26 PM

ok.... I know, it's such a crap video card, but it is included in all the latest compaq and hp laptop...
So, it seems that whenever I install the latest omega driver, my IGP 345M is recognize as an IGP 340M... I don't even know if it has an impact in performance...

normal ? weird ?

Omegadrive · Sep 22, 2003, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KTy
ok.... I know, it's such a crap video card, but it is included in all the latest compaq and hp laptop...
So, it seems that whenever I install the latest omega driver, my IGP 345M is recognize as an IGP 340M... I don't even know if it has an impact in performance...
normal ? weird ?

That's normal, as the 340 and 345 hardware ID numbers are the same, that's why I only included one entry in my drivers, and now it should be recognized as an IGP 34x with the "a" set.

As for the SmartGart startup problem when installing the drivers, I do have the pause you mention every time I install the drivers, but I just wait for the display to reset itself before touching the PC, and that is about 30 seconds after the desktop comes up.
Remeber, that startup programs take their order when starting the PC and if you have MANY startup programs (like the icons on your system tray), this will delay the Smartgart startup process.

~~wk357mag~~ · Sep 22, 2003, 09:29 PM

Here's another mirror for the 2478a's

http://acx2.zforums.net/DLZ/rad_w2kxp_omega_2478a.exe

Sep 21, 2003, 02:55 AM	#154
wolfran DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 414 Rep Power: 0	best driver so far!!! hi Omega, I find your driver is the best out of all of them i've tried. You actually fixed the installation problem (card not supported probelm). Now i can do a clean install using your driver. This is really a major improvement. The IQ is also better than the cats and it is not slower. In some cases your driver is even faster. The only minor problem i'm having is that i can't actually install the hacked driver. I chose the hacked 9700 during the installtion but my card is still being recognize as a 9700 pro. If i look into the ATI CP, it still says SMOOTHVISION II. Does you hack suppose to work on all cards or maybe some cards just can't use the hack? Thanks again for the great driver. btw my spec: athlon xp 2600 sapphire 9700 np @340/301 a7n8x corsair 512 mb ram SB Audigy winxp

Sep 21, 2003, 03:20 PM	#159
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	RADEON 9800 AGP (0X4E44) indicates it is being identified as a 9800 chip type __________________

Sep 21, 2003, 09:54 PM	#162
Shadow Lady Avril Fan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere in colombia, okok, bogotá city :p Posts: 1,262 Rep Power: 0	and? just disable it from ATIO CP __________________ Oblivion ftw

Sep 22, 2003, 07:35 AM	#169
Desert_Siege Professional Slacker Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: KY Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	Etch a Sketch screen redraw after installing drivers... I think I may have found the cause, but not sure how to fix it. I know I am not the only one that has experienced this, but after installing drivers and restarting, your desktop is basically so slow it feels like its being drawn by etch a sketch. I experienced this when upgrading to Omega's latest set and it lasted almost 10 minutes before my monitor flickered a couple of times, went blank and came back on and all was well. I am almost positive that it is being caused by SmartGart not completing and not terminating either. The last time this happened (when upgrading to 3.7 ATI), it took 5 reboots and finally had to let it just sit for almost 30 minutes and it finally completed. Is there any way to stop this from happening. It seems like it disables pretty much everything until it completes, but once it does, all is well. I could be wrong, but I am almost positive the problem lies with SmartGart. Never encountered this until 2.45 Nforce drivers. I downgraded to 3.4 yesterday to test something, and the same thing happened again, but only lasted about 5 minutes before it flickered and came back on and all was well. Doesn't seem to be related to 3.7's, but SmartGart doesn't appear to cooperated with 2.45 Nforce drivers on my system for some reason. Oh well, it was just an idea and it seems to work fine now, just annoying knowing that every time I change drivers, I will have to go through this, but at least I know eventually it will fix itself...heh.

Sep 22, 2003, 07:44 AM	#171
~~wk357mag~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 69 Rep Power: 0	This is a known issue with ATI and its SmartGart. I have written a guide, this being the best way to do it, works flawlessly everytime. Studdering Graphics Fixxed Last edited by wk357mag; Sep 22, 2003 at 07:53 AM.

Sep 19, 2003, 02:46 PM	#151
kl33r DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	ATIoglxx.DL_ in Omega 2.4.78 which is based on Catalyst 3.7 in the OmegaDriverFolder\2KXP_INF\ATIOGLXX.DL_

Sep 20, 2003, 08:08 AM	#152
LadFromWales85 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	Hey all! I have installed the Omega 3.7's, and so far I am extremely impressed with what I have seen. Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2 stuttered a lot and was very slow with the Cats 3.7's, but with the Omega 3.7's, the game rarely stutters and the framerate is much higher than it was before. Also, the scenary and reflections etc look much nicer than they did before. I installed the 9700>9800 driver...What does it do? I presume it gives my 9700 Pro all the features of the 9800 Pro that were locked in the core? Thanks, and great work Omega!

Sep 21, 2003, 07:49 AM	#155
LadFromWales85 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	Look in the display control panel, on the 'Adaptor' tab... Next to Chip Type it should say RADEON 9800 AGP (0x4E44) or similar I believe that it correct... Someone said it says Smoothvision 2.1 somewhere, but I dunno where to find that, any ideas??? What do the omegas do to improve on image quality by the way, I can see the difference, but I wanna know how its achieved. Also. what do the 9700>9800 drivers actually do? Thanks

Sep 21, 2003, 02:05 PM	#156
ree DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 0	I installed the latest omega and it support 9800SE...(v2.4.78a) In 3Dmark2001SE, 200 points improvement... In 3Dmark2003, 4 points improvement... Previously, I was using v2.4.78 with self modify omega driver post on page 3 of the same forum...

Sep 21, 2003, 08:50 PM	#161
ryan328 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	lastest driver 2.4.78a, ati taskbar icon is on by default again

Sep 21, 2003, 10:05 PM	#163
LadFromWales85 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	2.4.78a Is that newer than the 2.4.78's that I got? And what difference is there?

Sep 22, 2003, 12:40 AM	#164
Tyrant DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	What's New? (2.4.78a) * Fixed the 9800 SE "not recognized" problem. (2k/XP) * Fixed the missing Mobility Cards. (2k/XP) * Added a new intro to the ATI drivers installation. (2k/XP) * Disabled 32Bit Z buffer by default in D3D for low end cards (if you need it you can enable it anytime in the ATI CP). (2k/XP) * Added the Moded driver for 9800SE cards.

Sep 22, 2003, 12:43 AM	#165
LadFromWales85 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	Nothin of any use to me with a 9700Pro then I will upgrade next time I reinstall windows, since my nForce IDE drivers stop me using CD Mate also

Sep 22, 2003, 07:57 AM	#173
~~wk357mag~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 69 Rep Power: 0	Sorry, to busy to watch all forums (work 2, own 1)(used to be more too) Anyway, this has curred this issue for me and I recommend it to all. Just makes for a good install the first time. I did just edit my original post there, to now read that it also includes Intel based mobo's. So not NV's fault.

Sep 22, 2003, 08:08 AM	#174
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	I just got an NF7 last week, and I get that error message after the first reboot after a fresh install of the ATI drivers. I've been testing and noticed some stuttering in some places on some games. But I ran Smartgart once after I installed them, then let it stay on in services- Maybe I'll reinstall the Omegas and try again. __________________

Sep 22, 2003, 09:18 AM	#175
feitz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	for the v2.4.78a omega driver, is there a 9800se->9800pro selection? or do i choose btw 9500->9700 or 9700->9800 drivers?

Sep 22, 2003, 07:26 PM	#178
KTy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	IGP345M recognize as a 340M ok.... I know, it's such a crap video card, but it is included in all the latest compaq and hp laptop... So, it seems that whenever I install the latest omega driver, my IGP 345M is recognize as an IGP 340M... I don't even know if it has an impact in performance... normal ? weird ?

Sep 22, 2003, 09:29 PM	#180
~~wk357mag~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 69 Rep Power: 0	Here's another mirror for the 2478a's http://acx2.zforums.net/DLZ/rad_w2kxp_omega_2478a.exe