Call Of Duty: Issues with Radeon 95/96/97/9800 cards

Chaos · Nov 10, 2003, 02:18 AM

I am running COD on my Radeon 9500 without issue so far. Here is a quick scrren shot

Spellbot 5000 · Nov 10, 2003, 04:10 AM

Disabling fastwrites and enabling Delayed Transaction in BIOS definately minimized the hiccups in gameplay for me. There are still a few, but they used to be really annoying whereas now I can barely notice. Changing the setting is worth trying for anyone out there.

**Roadee** · Nov 10, 2003, 02:14 PM

I hope when Cat Maker comes up with a patch for COD that it is "front page" news.

I am one of the few that is stuck using 3.7 drivers. Finicky system I guess...

ZzzombieBunny · Nov 10, 2003, 02:51 PM

According to the games readme, the EXTRA settings require 256 mb card memory... maybe thats why some people are experiencing some stuttering at occasions? Im running on EXTRA settings with my radeon9500Pro 128mb and it runs smooth at 30-80fps... I do get the occasional stuttering, gonna check next time if disabling the EXTRA settings fixes that...

Sharkims · Nov 10, 2003, 02:52 PM

I just was forced to turn off FastWrite in order to get COD to run stable. I turned VPU Recover off just to be sure. I was hoping someone could PM me about the CAT 3.7 atioglxx.dll file. I need it to see if that will help. I like fastwrite....

L-MoS · Nov 10, 2003, 03:23 PM

Well i was locking up and i just disabled AA+AF and i havnt locked up.. But maybe im just getting lucky

Chaos · Nov 10, 2003, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharkims
I just was forced to turn off FastWrite in order to get COD to run stable. I turned VPU Recover off just to be sure. I was hoping someone could PM me about the CAT 3.7 atioglxx.dll file. I need it to see if that will help. I like fastwrite....

Check the new Omega drivers dude, I am quite sure he included the OpenGL fix for COD in this release

Dyre Straits · Nov 10, 2003, 03:49 PM

If you've done everything else, check this thread. I posted a way to give the game more memory:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...threadid=30508

atomic7431 · Nov 10, 2003, 04:45 PM

ok i thought id just say that the Extra Character & General Textures settings is only suposed to be turned on if u are running a video card with 256 megs of ram on it!!!! so theres no wonder peeps are having stuttering with it turned on when running a 9800/9700 128 meg card, it wont run it!! this is taken from the read me file that accompanies the game -

5. Recommended Texture Settings for Video Cards

If you are experiencing performance or graphical anomalies, use the texture guidelines below, or select "Optimal System Settings" in the Game Options menu. This may alleviate the problems you are seeing.

- Video cards with 32MB to 64MB of video RAM are able to use the Normal Character & General Textures settings.

- Video cards with 128MB of video RAM are able to use the High Character & General Textures settings.

- Video cards with 256MB of video RAM are able to use the Extra Character & General Textures settings.

* Video cards with 32MB of video RAM will see improved performance with the Low Character & General Textures settings.

so theres the answer to ur stuttering problems, i read the first few pages of this thread so if this has been pointed out in the last few pages then sorry but otherwise hope this helps!!!!

BWX · Nov 10, 2003, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZzzombieBunny
According to the games readme, the EXTRA settings require 256 mb card memory... maybe thats why some people are experiencing some stuttering at occasions? Im running on EXTRA settings with my radeon9500Pro 128mb and it runs smooth at 30-80fps... I do get the occasional stuttering, gonna check next time if disabling the EXTRA settings fixes that...

BAH__ I read the read-me and overlooked that- I saw somewhere in there it saying you "need a robust sytem" to run extra textures, just didn't see where it said you need 256mb ov video memory to run extra textures- that really sux-

I can see why it would run slower, but I still don't think it should stutter like that.

Extra looks so much better than just high. Oh well, I guess in a year or so I'll probably upgrade to a card that has 256mb of ram, but by then I will have sold my COD CD I'm sure-- Oh well.

Poppi · Nov 11, 2003, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by atomic7431
ok i thought id just say that the Extra Character & General Textures settings is only suposed to be turned on if u are running a video card with 256 megs of ram on it!!!! so theres no wonder peeps are having stuttering with it turned on when running a 9800/9700 128 meg card, it wont run it!! this is taken from the read me file that accompanies the game -

5. Recommended Texture Settings for Video Cards

If you are experiencing performance or graphical anomalies, use the texture guidelines below, or select "Optimal System Settings" in the Game Options menu. This may alleviate the problems you are seeing.

- Video cards with 32MB to 64MB of video RAM are able to use the Normal Character & General Textures settings.

- Video cards with 128MB of video RAM are able to use the High Character & General Textures settings.

- Video cards with 256MB of video RAM are able to use the Extra Character & General Textures settings.

* Video cards with 32MB of video RAM will see improved performance with the Low Character & General Textures settings.

so theres the answer to ur stuttering problems, i read the first few pages of this thread so if this has been pointed out in the last few pages then sorry but otherwise hope this helps!!!!

Hmmm, I don't think this is the problem with the stuttering. The stuttering was really chronic in the first 2 maps. Check it. When you find a spot you are stuttering, just stand still and start moving side to side real slow. You will see the FPS drop from say 80 to 20 and then back up to 80 again, at the same spot you just had 20.

On the bright side, the later maps give no problems with stuttering and extra settings for both, which is what mine is set at. In fact I run 1600 x 1200 (16X aniso-quality), extra, extra, 32bit, and trillinear and never go below 40 FPS.

My system is nothing special.

Poppi · Nov 11, 2003, 12:31 AM

PS. I also had lock ups until I disabled fast writes.

Dyre Straits · Nov 11, 2003, 05:53 PM

Just a thought: Has anyone tried Defragging their HD to see if there's any change in performance?

jonis · Nov 11, 2003, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dyre Straits
Just a thought: Has anyone tried Defragging their HD to see if there's any change in performance?

I actually tried that for a game that crashed on me for an unknown reason earlier... big file for the game in question had over 350 fragments. never had a crash or stutter after i assembled the "pussle"

Kezz · Nov 12, 2003, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Poppi
On the bright side, the later maps give no problems with stuttering and extra settings for both, which is what mine is set at. In fact I run 1600 x 1200 (performance) , extra, extra, 32bit, and trillinear and never go below 40 FPS. My system is nothing special.

Cool, you're absolutely right, I just noticed that for myself. In the later levels it's absolutely no problem to put at least general textures on "extra". With character textures on extra it still stutters _slightly_ sometimes but not as bad as it does in the first levels. Strange....

So BWX, I'd suggest to test it out again in the later levels.

Radeon 9700 Pro + new omega drivers 2.9.46c working here.

Raid0 · Nov 12, 2003, 02:37 AM

9600 pro here and EAX enabled on Audigy2,1024x768/32 and 3.9 catalyst with not a prob.Game is awesome.

Dyre Straits · Nov 12, 2003, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharkims
I just was forced to turn off FastWrite in order to get COD to run stable. I turned VPU Recover off just to be sure. I was hoping someone could PM me about the CAT 3.7 atioglxx.dll file. I need it to see if that will help. I like fastwrite....

I did post a link to the CAT 3.7 atiogl.zip. Have you gotten and tried it yet?

Vehicon · Nov 12, 2003, 11:38 PM

I tried it, and didnt help me.Made me lockup quicker is seems.

~~HawK~~ · Nov 12, 2003, 11:43 PM

maybe you are looking in the wrong place.. mean lower your HWsound accel. 1 or 2 notches?
maybe that helpes

BWX · Nov 12, 2003, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kezz
Cool, you're absolutely right, I just noticed that for myself. In the later levels it's absolutely no problem to put at least general textures on "extra". With character textures on extra it still stutters _slightly_ sometimes but not as bad as it does in the first levels. Strange....

So BWX, I'd suggest to test it out again in the later levels.

Radeon 9700 Pro + new omega drivers 2.9.46c working here.

Other levels aren't near as bad- I can run extra general mostly, but extra characters usually gets some stuttering here and there. But at 80 to 120 fps, I can't imagine it's because my card "only" has 128mb of onbaord ram.

wolfran · Nov 13, 2003, 03:10 AM

same stuttering problem here with ati9700 and cats 3.8 and all settings at extra.
I guess we need a game patch soon. Anyone know if a patch is on its way??

Chaos · Nov 13, 2003, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wolfran
same stuttering problem here with ati9700 and cats 3.8 and all settings at extra.
I guess we need a game patch soon. Anyone know if a patch is on its way??

This is from the readme:

Video cards with 128MB of video RAM are able to use the High Character & General Textures settings

Video cards with 256MB of video RAM are able to use the Extra Character & General Textures settings

BWX · Nov 13, 2003, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chaos
This is from the readme:

Video cards with 128MB of video RAM are able to use the High Character & General Textures settings

Video cards with 256MB of video RAM are able to use the Extra Character & General Textures settings

That's true- it does indeed say that. I just wish it didn't........ It will be while before I have a video card with 256mb of onboard ram. It will probably be the card that comes after the XT, (420?) and only after that card comes way down in price. (a year maybe)

Maybe they could run a patch that has a texture level in between high and extra- Just to reduce the stuttering a little.. I can run extra textures at 70 - 120+ FPS- I only get stuttering in certain areas- so it wouldn't take much to smooth it out.

snic320 · Nov 13, 2003, 11:41 AM

Hi, this is my first post i think, this forum is very helpfull, i´m one of those with problems in COD, the game just freezes while playing some minutes, i have managed to play longer with my agp set to 4x and fastwrites off but still locks or hangs my computer sometimes......

Radeon 9800 pro Powercolor not overclocked
Asus a7n8x deluxe+amd 1700@2000+2x256Mb ddr400+80Gig Seagate

Using cathalyst 3.7 supossed to be problem free........?

Also used 3.8 and 3.9 but problems in battlefield made me change.....
I bought this card to play this games at high quality versus my Gforce 4 4200 (with no driver problems NEVER), so whats the point?, Ati fix this soon please or i will regret my buy forever and go back to my stable Nvidia´s

Thnx

The_Neon_Cowboy · Nov 13, 2003, 03:59 PM

I think I've found a couse and I've found my own soultion to lockups/crashes.. i have the issues more often turning up the eye candy.... I since i was layed off i've been playing cod like a mad man. it kept crashing .. i check the temps ... they mach my 3dmark results and them i check the temps in cod.... its warmer... quite wierd i'm working on a write up..it seems mabe the thermal issues aren't totally fixed ... for some reason in cod the temps a seval C hotter even on the memory side than in 3dmark! wich never changed in any of my previous tests

. I'm running the temporary fixed drivers 2. going back to the regular 3.9's and test again....

I was able to solve my lockups ... i took and set an 80mm fan blowing across my card.
could some one else try this or to confirm?

please pm me the results....

~~HawK~~ · Nov 13, 2003, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snic320
Hi, this is my first post i think, this forum is very helpfull, i´m one of those with problems in COD, the game just freezes while playing some minutes, i have managed to play longer with my agp set to 4x and fastwrites off but still locks or hangs my computer sometimes......

Radeon 9800 pro Powercolor not overclocked
Asus a7n8x deluxe+amd 1700@2000+2x256Mb ddr400+80Gig Seagate

Thnx

How many Watt is your PSU?

*CATALYST maker* · Nov 13, 2003, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snic320
Hi, this is my first post i think, this forum is very helpfull, i´m one of those with problems in COD, the game just freezes while playing some minutes, i have managed to play longer with my agp set to 4x and fastwrites off but still locks or hangs my computer sometimes......

Radeon 9800 pro Powercolor not overclocked
Asus a7n8x deluxe+amd 1700@2000+2x256Mb ddr400+80Gig Seagate

Using cathalyst 3.7 supossed to be problem free........?

Also used 3.8 and 3.9 but problems in battlefield made me change.....
I bought this card to play this games at high quality versus my Gforce 4 4200 (with no driver problems NEVER), so whats the point?, Ati fix this soon please or i will regret my buy forever and go back to my stable Nvidia´s

Thnx

Wow not one single problem with your Geforce? Impressive.

Anyways, sorry your ATI experience has started off bad. And yes I will fix this very soon and hopefully you dont regret bying ATI.

TonyMonTana · Nov 13, 2003, 05:53 PM

Is it just the full game of COD that has problems?
I heard the demo is problem free.

snic320 · Nov 13, 2003, 06:03 PM

Thanx cat maker!

really hope you can fix it........(by the way i really didnt have problems with my Gforce, its true, but its not as powerfull as this Radeon 9800, visual quality is outstanding and fast really fast....when it doesnt lock up!)

My power supply is 450W Levicom so thats not the problem (its also on a dedicated power cable, not sharing with fans or others...)

Will try the fan blowing method although the card is not overclocked so it should run ok with the standard heatsink+ copper sinks in memmory i bought

My problem is with the 2 demos not the complete game

Thanx 4 the responses!

Poppi · Nov 13, 2003, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CATALYST maker
Wow not one single problem with your Geforce? Impressive.

Anyways, sorry your ATI experience has started off bad. And yes I will fix this very soon and hopefully you dont regret bying ATI.

Cat. Maker. I can also testify as I had Nvidia through the 4600 Ti. I purchased the 9700 Pro as there was a sale and heard great things. Not one problem with any of the Nvidia cards.

Are you guys finding the problem to be with Quake 3 engine games. The reason I ask is last night I was blasting away with MOHAA Breakthrough for about a 1/2 hour when the game just shut down and kicked me back to desktop. No freezing, just sudden quiting. Fastwrites where switched back on.

Nov 10, 2003, 02:18 AM	#61
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	I am running COD on my Radeon 9500 without issue so far. Here is a quick scrren shot __________________

Nov 10, 2003, 04:10 AM	#62
Spellbot 5000 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 104 Rep Power: 0	Disabling fastwrites and enabling Delayed Transaction in BIOS definately minimized the hiccups in gameplay for me. There are still a few, but they used to be really annoying whereas now I can barely notice. Changing the setting is worth trying for anyone out there. __________________ "I often wonder what would be a better form of suicide - a revolver between the eyes or marriage and a 40-hour week."

Nov 10, 2003, 02:14 PM	#63
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,198 Rep Power: 67	I hope when Cat Maker comes up with a patch for COD that it is "front page" news. I am one of the few that is stuck using 3.7 drivers. Finicky system I guess... __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.

Nov 10, 2003, 02:52 PM	#65
Sharkims Seen my brain? Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA,USA Posts: 760 Rep Power: 0	I just was forced to turn off FastWrite in order to get COD to run stable. I turned VPU Recover off just to be sure. I was hoping someone could PM me about the CAT 3.7 atioglxx.dll file. I need it to see if that will help. I like fastwrite.... __________________ System-1: MSI K8N Neo Platinum \|\| A64 3200+(200x11) - Zalman 7000A-AlCu \|\| 1x1gb OCZ PC3200@400(3-3-3-7) \|\| 9800XT \|\| WD Raptors 2x36 RAID0 System-2: MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R \|\| P4 2.4c(FSB:200) - Intel Cooler \|\| 2x256 GEIL PC3200@400(2-3-3-6) \|\| AIW9000 \|\| WD SE 120x2 RAID0 System-3: DELL Inspiron 9100 \|\| P4 3.0c(mobile) \|\| 2x256mb PC3200(3-3-3-8) \|\| Mobility Radeon 9700 - 128mb \|\| WSXGA+ 15.4" \|\| 60gb 5400RPM 8mb

Nov 10, 2003, 03:23 PM	#66
L-MoS DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Well i was locking up and i just disabled AA+AF and i havnt locked up.. But maybe im just getting lucky __________________ Abit AT7-Max2 Athlon XP 2800+ Samsung 512 PC3200 "400 MHz" ATI Radeon 9700P Catalyst ver. 3.8 X2 WD 80G 8mg cache on RAID0 Plextor External 40x12x40 Pioneer 16x DVD Player Klipsch ProMedia 5.1 Windows XP Pro SP1 DX 9.0b

Nov 10, 2003, 02:51 PM	#64
ZzzombieBunny Cake or Death? Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 258 Rep Power: 0	According to the games readme, the EXTRA settings require 256 mb card memory... maybe thats why some people are experiencing some stuttering at occasions? Im running on EXTRA settings with my radeon9500Pro 128mb and it runs smooth at 30-80fps... I do get the occasional stuttering, gonna check next time if disabling the EXTRA settings fixes that...

Nov 10, 2003, 04:45 PM	#69
atomic7431 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	extra texture settings read on --- ok i thought id just say that the Extra Character & General Textures settings is only suposed to be turned on if u are running a video card with 256 megs of ram on it!!!! so theres no wonder peeps are having stuttering with it turned on when running a 9800/9700 128 meg card, it wont run it!! this is taken from the read me file that accompanies the game - 5. Recommended Texture Settings for Video Cards If you are experiencing performance or graphical anomalies, use the texture guidelines below, or select "Optimal System Settings" in the Game Options menu. This may alleviate the problems you are seeing. - Video cards with 32MB to 64MB of video RAM are able to use the Normal Character & General Textures settings. - Video cards with 128MB of video RAM are able to use the High Character & General Textures settings. - Video cards with 256MB of video RAM are able to use the Extra Character & General Textures settings. * Video cards with 32MB of video RAM will see improved performance with the Low Character & General Textures settings. so theres the answer to ur stuttering problems, i read the first few pages of this thread so if this has been pointed out in the last few pages then sorry but otherwise hope this helps!!!!

Nov 11, 2003, 12:31 AM	#72
Poppi DH Admirer Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 251 Rep Power: 0	PS. I also had lock ups until I disabled fast writes. __________________

Nov 12, 2003, 02:37 AM	#76
Raid0 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	9600 pro here and EAX enabled on Audigy2,1024x768/32 and 3.9 catalyst with not a prob.Game is awesome.

Nov 12, 2003, 11:38 PM	#78
Vehicon The Cable Guy Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA IL. Posts: 466 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	I tried it, and didnt help me.Made me lockup quicker is seems. __________________

Nov 12, 2003, 11:43 PM	#79
~~HawK~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,092 Rep Power: 0	maybe you are looking in the wrong place.. mean lower your HWsound accel. 1 or 2 notches? maybe that helpes

Nov 13, 2003, 03:10 AM	#81
wolfran DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 414 Rep Power: 0	same stuttering problem here with ati9700 and cats 3.8 and all settings at extra. I guess we need a game patch soon. Anyone know if a patch is on its way??

Nov 13, 2003, 11:41 AM	#84
snic320 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Hi, this is my first post i think, this forum is very helpfull, i´m one of those with problems in COD, the game just freezes while playing some minutes, i have managed to play longer with my agp set to 4x and fastwrites off but still locks or hangs my computer sometimes...... Radeon 9800 pro Powercolor not overclocked Asus a7n8x deluxe+amd 1700@2000+2x256Mb ddr400+80Gig Seagate Using cathalyst 3.7 supossed to be problem free........? Also used 3.8 and 3.9 but problems in battlefield made me change..... I bought this card to play this games at high quality versus my Gforce 4 4200 (with no driver problems NEVER), so whats the point?, Ati fix this soon please or i will regret my buy forever and go back to my stable Nvidia´s Thnx

Nov 13, 2003, 03:59 PM	#85
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	I think I've found a couse and I've found my own soultion to lockups/crashes.. i have the issues more often turning up the eye candy.... I since i was layed off i've been playing cod like a mad man. it kept crashing .. i check the temps ... they mach my 3dmark results and them i check the temps in cod.... its warmer... quite wierd i'm working on a write up..it seems mabe the thermal issues aren't totally fixed ... for some reason in cod the temps a seval C hotter even on the memory side than in 3dmark! wich never changed in any of my previous tests . I'm running the temporary fixed drivers 2. going back to the regular 3.9's and test again.... I was able to solve my lockups ... i took and set an 80mm fan blowing across my card. could some one else try this or to confirm? please pm me the results.... __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Nov 13, 2003 at 04:06 PM.

Nov 13, 2003, 05:53 PM	#88
TonyMonTana I wish i was a tree....... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: uk..Birmingham Posts: 199 Rep Power: 0	Is it just the full game of COD that has problems? I heard the demo is problem free.

Nov 13, 2003, 06:03 PM	#89
snic320 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Thanx cat maker! really hope you can fix it........(by the way i really didnt have problems with my Gforce, its true, but its not as powerfull as this Radeon 9800, visual quality is outstanding and fast really fast....when it doesnt lock up!) My power supply is 450W Levicom so thats not the problem (its also on a dedicated power cable, not sharing with fans or others...) Will try the fan blowing method although the card is not overclocked so it should run ok with the standard heatsink+ copper sinks in memmory i bought My problem is with the 2 demos not the complete game Thanx 4 the responses!