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Yep, they are ready to rock'n roll.
Fixed most of the issues encountered in the previous release (which was in kind of hurry), these are the details: New (Omega 2.4.31a) * Updated the drivers with the new OpenGL ICD released by ATI, it should fix the SoF2 problem and boost OpenGL performance. Old (Omega 2.4.31) * Fixed a setting that prevented turning OFF or ON the V-Sync. * Changed some settigs for PM support, now, when returning from sleep mode the card should wake up properly. * The D3D Control Panel is now installed by default along with the drivers. * Now the drivers will remove ANY tweaks in the registry for D3D, OpenGL and OpenGLPrivate (even custom-manually entered ones). There's no need now to remove previous settings manually or with a tweaker. * Modified the setup to give the user more install options and more control over the installation. Now the ATI driver installation will not run automatically after my drivers setup , but instead it will ask you if you want to run it. Download and enjoy! Any problems? Please post here
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Thanks Omegadrive. I will install them tonight.
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Hey OmegaDrive..
I've been wondering.. when using your drivers, I would experience extreme slowdowns in certain games (UT Engine Based, Serious Sam).. Apparently, my system doesn't like having a lot of registry entries enabled, or SOMETHING is slowing it down.. When i purge the registry (or used to, when I was using RadeonTweaker), everything becomes fast again.. Any clue why this would be happening? In Serious Sam, it can be felt when you go underwater.. it starts chugging like a male giving birth.. o_O For UT based games.. just the overall fps is low.
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Drivers? What Drivers???
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The quantity of registry entries doesn't affect the performance of the drivers, those are commands that are executed before the application is run.
Like I said some time ago, I have found a little bug that I haven't been able to tackle, but it happens so far with a "modified" overclocked BIOS, I haven't tested on a normal one, it's this: After the drivers install and restart, if you go directly into a game, it doesn't matter what game, the card will be run in the DEFAULT speed that originally came from the factory, and thus, will be slower. The only solution that I have found is this: after the drivers install and the restart, go into ATI's utilities and click on every TAB, but don't change anything (well, maybe the overlay and gamma if you need to), press OK to exit, then OK to exit again, now restart the PC and when Windows comes up again you'll have your full speed again. I don't know if this applies to you, but just in case try it ![]() Good Luck! |
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The thing was, my BIOS (using my original Radeon) wasn't modified.. And I figured that
it was one of the tweaks that didn't seem to approve of it.. But I will try that tab-clicking solution when I get the time (and HD space) to reinstall those games that I remember were affected.. Thanks.
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i got them and installed them, but i still havent tested out their gaming performance just caus im too lazy, i'll do that tomorrow
question: i noticed you can install an overclocking utility. i chose not to. question is, will it add a tab in the properties where u can move the sliders around and oc it like it was with the nvidia drivers, or does it install a whole seperate utility which will have to be run everytime windows starts (like rage3d's ocer, or like powerstrip). if it's like nvidia's where u dont even have to run anything to get the oc'ed speeds, that'd be great, i'd reinstall the drivers and enable that feature, it's just that i like to have minimal things running in the background, i only have exporer, systray and my mouse drivers, i dont like anything else. anywho, long message, simple question, an answer would be great. later |
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I just installed them last night... They are pretty good... I have no problem running the compressed textures in UT and CS run well in Opengl....
I got about a 10% increase in UT when I ran a bench demo... Mystik I have noticed with Omega's drivers that if I want to benchmark( I know I know it is not about Benchmarking) and I make sure vsync is off.. I always BM higher when I purge all of the registry settings and set the card basically to default... In all fairness I have noticed this with the official ATI drivers as well... In terms of ingame performance... Omega's tweaks are excellent. I actually still use Radeon Tweaker by Humus... but mostly just for purging the registry and for the memory recovery feature... I use unituner if I want to 'tune' my registry...
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I got a couple of questions:
1. What happened to the dropdown setting for the Adapter tab? This is the one where you could set the Refresh to either Adapter Default, or to Optimal. It's missing now. (However, my monitor still does 100 Hz at 1024x768 which is fine.) 2. What is the new Projector tab for in the Displays, Monitor settings? I'm a little puzzled as to why it shows up there. Dyre Straits |
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skinlab, the utility is a saparate program, it's not a slider tab, sorry, but it DOESN'T run in memory, just run it, set the speed and close. The only drawback is that is not permanent, so you have to manually adjust the speeds everytime the computer startups
. I haven't found a stand alone overcloker that starts with the computer, adjusts the speeds and quits.If any of you, the programmers of those Radeontweakers can help me here... Dyre, 1) That appears when the monitor drivers are correctly installed, re-install the monitor driver if it doesn't appear, then restart. 2) I don't know either , I just enabled it for fun , haven't tested it, don't have my 8500 right now, so I'm basically doing blind updates , I think it has to do with some funtions for the AIW users.
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It's been a while since a driver install necessitated that I also reinstall the monitor drivers. Anyway, that took care of the Adapter Default/Optimal issue.
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Hey Omega, great job. The framerate seems a little slower than the 30s with 16x ansio (I always use it) but the image quality is the BEST of any driver so far in my opinion. Very crisp and clean. Exactly why I like ATI over nVidia.
One question. I see in your bios FAQ that you recomend enabling Fastwrites. Sandra has Fastwrites as not enabled. How do you enable fastwrites with an 8500 or do you even recomend it at all? Thank you in advance if you could answer my question and thank you for all your work. I have used nothing but Omega drivers since getting my 8500 retail. Oh, the extras with the 31s were a nice touch. edit: I do have FW enabled in bios. |
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Yikes! I've never reinstalled monitor drivers....um, how do you do that?
Also, I just noticed that Omega 2.4.30 still shows up in my Add/Remove list, even though I switched back to 1.4.21. Should I remove it...or....?
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As for reinstalling Monitor drivers: Right click your Desktop and select Properties to get to the Display Properties screen. Click the Settings tab and then the Advanced button. Now click on the Monitor tab and then the Change button. From there, point to the drivers for your monitor. If you're really wanting the latest, check first with the WEB site for your manufacturer and get the latest drivers for it first. Dyre Straits |
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You mean, answering "no" to "You are replacing an existing file with an older version, do you want to keep the newer file?"
Yeah, I did that. Meaning, I told the install to load to load the older version of the files...
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Dyre, when a file is in use by Windows and the drivers need to replace it, Windows doesn't replace it at that time, it just puts it in a TEMP folder, and when you restart your computer, the file is replaced then, before Windows starts.
And yes, you should say that you DON'T want to KEEP the most recent files when updating with my drivers, Why?, because sometimes I use OLD files that FIX problems in more recent files... |
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Well, I won't sweat it for now.
Just installed the 2.4.31's, gained 15-25% in Morrowind, everything is much smoother. Menus especially. I saved at a rest spot where I was pulling 34-37 sitting still. Loaded up the new drivers, and I was 52-56. Tested in Balmora where I as at 16-17, now 19-22. Thanks, Omegadrive, excellent work. ![]() BTW, I left off the utilities - I use Rage3d Tweak for oc'ing.
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Anyway, I'm pretty much 'stuck' on Omegadrive drivers. I get great performance from them with very few exceptions. Dyre Straits |
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When I first installed Freedom Force a couple or three weeks ago, I had a problem with the screen going very dark on a regular basis. It was like the game went from daylight to playing in the dark.
With the Omega (9030) version drivers, I don't recall the game doing that even one time. Now, after installing the new drivers based on 9031, I'm getting this problem about every 5 - 10 minutes. And this is after removing the check in W-Buffer in Direct3D settings. Anyone else care to check it out? Dyre Straits PS I can do a Save and then Load that saved game and it returns to normal....for a while. PPS In case it's important, I'm at the point in the game where I'm dealing with the destructive Mechanical Men that are tearing down the buildings in the city. |
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Actually Dyre, that's a known bug in the game, at least for me it has always happen, I think the developers where going to release a patch for it, mostly occurs when passing the camera above a building and you character in on the street, well , that's when usually happens to me.
Anyway, no need to save and load to fix the problem, just change resolutions or color depth, that will fix it for a while again.
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It's strange that I have played for nearly two weeks without one occurence...and then all of a sudden, it's happening all the time. I'm at the point where the Mechanical Men are tearing down the city, so, TIME is of the essence. Dyre Straits |
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Omega,
I found that your drivers work fine in most cases, except one. When I try to play any video file (*.avi, *.mpeg and etc) the overlay is not turning on. It is only working for DVD and VOB (fom hard drive) playback. Why is it happening? Is it something that ATI screwed or is it a "flaw" of your drivers? I tried to research many forums for the answer but in most cases different people tell different stories: some tell that ATI was gradually killing its Hardware Acceleration feature "while trying to improve the drivers", some tell that small utility DivXG400 should be used to cure the problem. So could you please tell me - what is it that blocks Overlay for playing back movie clips im MPEG and AVI formats? Will it be possible for you to fix the problem with the next releases? Thanx |
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I just downloaded the latest omega drivers for my Radeon 8500 for Windows ME but cannot get them to install. I first tried to install w/o uninstalling any drivers, but it said to uninstall drivers then install the standard vga. So I did and it gave me this error again.
I tried to do it manually but could not. Can anyone help me?
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You can still do it manually. After executing the EXE that you download from his site,
cancel the installation when it loads up the ATi Drivers Installation. It will still remain on your hard-drive to wherever you extracted it. From there, start the manual installation. I, for one, prefer the old style of having it compressed than EXE'd w/ an installer. =)
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How do you manual install? I tried to add new hardware, but could not find the drivers. I have the omega files on my hd. Do I have to copy them over the old ones? How do I do this?
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Link from Rage3D:
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...allation+guide
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I followed those directions and when I rebooted and started to install if worked untill this screen popped up saying how these drivers were not tested on Windows ME so they will not be installed. So I went to reinstall the newest ATI drivers that I downloaded, but I get that please install standard vga adaptors, but they already are installed. This sucks. Can anyone help?
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I had that problem once seth_br, the only solution I found was a reformat, sorry.
![]() You may ask, Why? Because the registry is corrupt, that's why, and windows tells you that a VGA driver is installed, when in fact is not, the registry has the "header" information, but internally it has no settings or the information has been corrupted. This usually happens after "half" installation, an installation that never finished or an instllation that locked the PC in the middle or the end of it and you had to reset your computer. |
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Ahh, the memories of Windows 9x regestry.
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I have been using the Omega Drivers for some time now and yesterday I put this new driver on and man it works great.
At first with the factory drivers for mt ATI Radeon 8500 OEM version I have serious issues with performance for the game IL2 Sturmovik, I placed a post on the 3DRage forums for assistance and you posted a message with a link to your Omega site and I have been using them since. But the performance was still below my expectations at first but now with the new 31 driver I was stunned. The game is zooming with a average framerate of 55 fps in 1152 x 864 32Bit and details in game set to max from inside the cockpit. (It used to be average 35 fps in 1024 x 768 32Bit and details set to max with the previous Omega Drivers) Thanks a lot man, you made me a very happy person.
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