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Old Nov 23, 2003, 10:23 AM   #61
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Well I finally finished COD!!

This is how I did it:
- remove a side panel
- insert a 'cold pack' (a gel pack you use for a sore neck - from the refrigirator) into the computer case...

Could it have been a heat problem after all?
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Old Nov 23, 2003, 10:39 AM   #62
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Ah nice, so what you need is a good airflow, to make sure the hot air gets out faster.
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Old Nov 23, 2003, 12:13 PM   #63
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TESTED ON HERC 9800XT 256

this game is strange.. over with 256 onboard DDR i get stuttering in game with Extra/Extra Selected.

the games defaults to Extra Extra... it should be useing the extra 256 but it cant be becuse it stutters in maps with extra extrea selected....

im pissed....

on high / extra everything is fine hmmmmm

3.9 omega + Hotfix v2 no lockups but bad stuttering...

ATI FIX THIS ASAP PLEASE............................................ .. £400 card and i cant even play the game on high settings. pfft
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Funny though I ONLY get this problem with COD...

Max Payne2, Halo, Nascar 2003 etc.. don't give ANY troubles!?
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ATI FIX THIS ASAP PLEASE............................................ .. £400 card and i cant even play the game on high settings. pfft
And why should Ati fix your system? could it be the game is not very optimized.
but try this:
use the Cat 3.10 (latest hotfix =3.10)
defrag your HD, change swapfile to fixedsize >1024
change in gameconfig: seta com_hunkmegs 128 to 256 or 384 (depending on total system mem. (call of duty\main\config.cfg
run minimum background programs.

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Funny though I ONLY get this problem with COD...
jep, it is a demanding game...
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Not sure if this was mentioned before, but, this hotfox also fixes the graphical corruption of menus in Simpsons: Hit and Run.
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Old Nov 23, 2003, 03:51 PM   #67
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well i fixed the STUTTERING but when im playing the lockups have returned AHHHHHHH cant i get a happy medium lol this is one bad ass game full off bugs........... or is it ATI`s OPGL driver thats full of bugs hmmm HAWK m8 im useing 3.9`s with Hotfix v2 my swapfile is huge minimum 768 maximum 1568 the only thing i havent tryed is setting the com_hunkmegs lol but i dont understand why i would need to do this with 256 DDR onboard and 512 System hmmm strange game indeed becuse everything else runs flawless. hmmm
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Funny 'cause, I play in 1152x864x32, 4xAA 16x AF, force 24bit, enable triple buff., Vsync on
game setting: characters text.: high, general textures: extra
I also set max fps in the config to 50.
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Old Nov 23, 2003, 08:30 PM   #69
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well ic ant seem to kill the lockups lol + your getting no stuttering becuse your playing in high extra mode. where as im playing in Extra Extra mode. is there a setting in the CONFIGS to maker the game use my onboard graphics 256DDR ? i think its only useing 128 hmmm for the time being i have deleted this game off my hdd its the only game giveing me all the greef in the world lol
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well ic ant seem to kill the lockups lol + your getting no stuttering becuse your playing in high extra mode. where as im playing in Extra Extra mode. is there a setting in the CONFIGS to maker the game use my onboard graphics 256DDR ? i think its only useing 128 hmmm for the time being i have deleted this game off my hdd its the only game giveing me all the greef in the world lol
I never liked to offend anyone( except Judas maybe )
but I realy think your are sad..
even if it where the ugliest game I would play it, why?
because it is such a good game, and the great graphics is a bonus.
Yes I get no stuttering because I play it in high/extra mode and it still looks great and play's great, but to see someone with a 2x powerfull system than mine,
blaming anyone or Ati for not being able to play this game,
maybe you should look for other things that are wrong in your system,
besides the graphic card.
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Old Nov 23, 2003, 10:21 PM   #71
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Blowme..... i wouldnt have to complain if things worked.... i just tryed HITMAN 2 TONIGHT it locked up on the intro and my speakers nearly died with a horrible SQEELING... dont tell me this isnt ATI`s drivers... i know it is... dont go around calling people sad what has this got to do with sad all i want is the DAM GAME TO WORK DAMNT.. even if i cure the stuttering in high extra mode the game stick locks up.... and when HITMAN 2 locked up displaying the same syphtoms as COD then it is a ATI problem and not mine...... Hmm

and erm i didnt say the graphics card was a problem its the DAM drivers thats the problem..
if im correct HITMAN 2 and COD both use the OPGL driver.

there for OPGL is all messed up.... even with the V2 COD fix this does not cure the lockups for everyone.
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[snip] i just tryed HITMAN 2 TONIGHT it locked up on the intro and my speakers nearly died with a horrible SQEELING... dont tell me this isnt ATI`s drivers[/snip]
Interesting, the same thing happened to me with Lock-On. Due to the constant problems I've had with about a thousand Cat drivers and the 9600 I immediately suspected it to be the culprit. Long story short I ripped the 9600 card out and put in my FX 5600 and was able to play the game without the game locking up immediately. It's really discouraging to say the least, always some problem to deal with like overlay, stability, color, TV, etc no matter which driver I use. The two 9700 cards I have are _far_ more stable than any of the 9600 Pro systems I've used despite driver bugs.

CoD plays perfectly on my 9700 systems with the "hotfix" build for hours. However, I had no stability problems with the game even with Cat 3.9. Of course the 9600 Pro system does have stability problems in CoD no matter what BIOS or driver settings. Oh well...
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Interesting, the same thing happened to me with Lock-On. Due to the constant problems I've had with about a thousand Cat drivers and the 9600 I immediately suspected it to be the culprit. Long story short I ripped the 9600 card out and put in my FX 5600 and was able to play the game without the game locking up immediately. It's really discouraging to say the least, always some problem to deal with like overlay, stability, color, TV, etc no matter which driver I use. The two 9700 cards I have are _far_ more stable than any of the 9600 Pro systems I've used despite driver bugs.

CoD plays perfectly on my 9700 systems with the "hotfix" build for hours. However, I had no stability problems with the game even with Cat 3.9. Of course the 9600 Pro system does have stability problems in CoD no matter what BIOS or driver settings. Oh well...
I just got the 9600 Pro 128 MB a couple of weeks ago and was having trouble with the official CAT 3.8 and 3.9 drivers and CoD. Once I read about using the CAT 3.7 atioglxx.dll, I started using that and all my problems went away.

Earlier this evening I installed these 'hotfix' drivers and have been playing CoD in some of the most active parts of the game without any slowdown, lockups, or CTDs at all!

If you recall where you have to take out the tanks from the 4-story building and then hold down the fort until reinforcements arrive, that's where I've been playing.

Not only have I been playing well, I'm also running my 9600 Pro 128 card at 486/351 with stock cooling. (Defaults are 400/300.) There are no articfacts whatsoever, either.

In addition, I'm running my CPU slightly over from 100 FSB to 110 FSB, effectively going from 1.6 to 1.78.

So, for me, it can't be the card itself. Mine is working fantastically!
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and erm i didnt say the graphics card was a problem its the DAM drivers thats the problem..
if im correct HITMAN 2 and COD both use the OPGL driver.
No it can't be the powercolor 'cause you have bougth it so it must be good........
funny thing is that 80% of radeon problems come from powercolors
BTW this from [H]OCP : Overclocking

The PowerColor 9700 Pro comes stock at the ATI specified speeds of 325MHz core / 620MHz memory (DDR). With 2.8ns of BGA RAM, we have a little margin for overclocking - up to 350MHz theoretically. Utilizing the latest Powerstrip, we were able to get the core to a solid 360MHz. While this may not be the highest overclock we've seen on a 9700 Pro, it's certainly not horrible either. Anything from 365MHz and up caused massive pixel errors.

The memory, not being cooled at all, was able to reach a stable 330MHz - an overclock of 20MHz. At 660MHz DDR on a 256-bit bus, that gives us an available 21.1GB/sec of memory bandwidth.

So how can you complain that the drivers are no good
if you overclock a card on which you be lucky if it run good at all on default speeds.
and for what? 3fps more?........tss
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No it can't be the powercolor 'cause you have bougth it so it must be good........
funny thing is that 80% of radeon problems come from powercolors
BTW this from [H]OCP : Overclocking

The PowerColor 9700 Pro comes stock at the ATI specified speeds of 325MHz core / 620MHz memory (DDR). With 2.8ns of BGA RAM, we have a little margin for overclocking - up to 350MHz theoretically. Utilizing the latest Powerstrip, we were able to get the core to a solid 360MHz. While this may not be the highest overclock we've seen on a 9700 Pro, it's certainly not horrible either. Anything from 365MHz and up caused massive pixel errors.

The memory, not being cooled at all, was able to reach a stable 330MHz - an overclock of 20MHz. At 660MHz DDR on a 256-bit bus, that gives us an available 21.1GB/sec of memory bandwidth.

So how can you complain that the drivers are no good
if you overclock a card on which you be lucky if it run good at all on default speeds.
and for what? 3fps more?........tss
what in the name of god are you talking about are you 15 years of age btw ?
whats my old card got to do with this thread and what you posted above ?

im useing my new hercules 9800 XT card.
at default clocks.

even so my powercolor did work flawless when i had it im my system no artifacts even up to 360+ core 345 Memory

the point is my new card is haveing problems with the current drivers with the current games COD and HITMAN 2.
i didnt know why you quoted HOCP for my card it is a awsome card and for your information POWERCOLOR 9700 Pro`s where the best in the same devision 9700 Pro`s... i did a lot of previous research to find out the best 9700 Pro..

nevertheless i stand and what i have said previously ATI`s OPGL DRIVER SUCKS.
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Blowme..... .
Do I detect some homosexual tendicies there dude

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what in the name of god are you talking about are you 15 years of age btw ?
whats my old card got to do with this thread and what you posted above ?

im useing my new hercules 9800 XT card.
at default clocks.

even so my powercolor did work flawless when i had it im my system no artifacts even up to 360+ core 345 Memory

the point is my new card is haveing problems with the current drivers with the current games COD and HITMAN 2.
i didnt know why you quoted HOCP for my card it is a awsome card and for your information POWERCOLOR 9700 Pro`s where the best in the same devision 9700 Pro`s... i did a lot of previous research to find out the best 9700 Pro..

nevertheless i stand and what i have said previously ATI`s OPGL DRIVER SUCKS.
yes I see, my bad for not reading the whole thread back, but then, if you would have updated your sig, so people would not have to guess what may or not may be in your rig when trying to help....
So far you have shown no intention of doing things right, and keep blaming the wrong company/people. so find it out for yourself, maybe another will take the risk of helping you.
goodbye.
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hehe i dont know who you are or care who you are but dont come in flameing people and expect the other persion to not flame back.... next time shutup and dont post with negative comments towards forum members.
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Thx cm this stopped the crashing i was getting at the start of the car level worked fine no probs smooth no crashing thx again for the hotfix
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Virus2k is obviously some kid. Just ignore him. I wish they had a squelch command so I could have peoples posts blocked like this tard.

The way he spells his name and tried to name himself after some "dangerous" (oh my!) computer system attack in alternating letters shows he watched "Hackers" a buncha times 7 years ago and thoguht since he didn't have any friends he could leech onto some other community.

He uses no punctuation whatsover. I'm not a spelling/grammer troll, I don't care. But even when your being lazy and casual, you remmeber to capitilize a noun once in a while and hit the enter key.

His threats are funny too, and how he comes back with whines and curseing people out.

Get a life kid.
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I had an odd error.....I was browsing DH and had a TV window open in one corner when my monitor went black and into standby mode....I still had audio but was not able to exit or access task manager with Ctrl-Alt-Del....had to cold boot
I get this error myself. I have a two screen setup with one lcd monitor on the dvi output, and a crt monitor on the other. Whenever I leave the computer alone for too long this happens. Both screens are off and will not powerup until I restart. Computer appears to be running nicely (although I can't be sure). I've got a Sapphire 9700.

*update*
I fixed this by disabling the vpu recover feature. I hope. At least it's been stable much longer than usual...

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Virus2k is obviously some kid. Just ignore him. I wish they had a squelch command so I could have peoples posts blocked like this tard.

The way he spells his name and tried to name himself after some "dangerous" (oh my!) computer system attack in alternating letters shows he watched "Hackers" a buncha times 7 years ago and thoguht since he didn't have any friends he could leech onto some other community.

He uses no punctuation whatsover. I'm not a spelling/grammer troll, I don't care. But even when your being lazy and casual, you remmeber to capitilize a noun once in a while and hit the enter key.

His threats are funny too, and how he comes back with whines and curseing people out.

Get a life kid.
talk about keeping the flame going just proves my point in my pervious post..
dumb people posting to get a dig in and think there it when it just proves how childish you realy are.

im not going to be posting again so keep the flame going LITTLE KID.
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managed to sort my problem of the monitor standby issue by just changing to 4x from 8x. Weird huh?

Maybe i need a more powerful PSU
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Well the CAT 3.10 has fixed all my problems with COD. I now play the game at 1280x1024 32bit, 6xAA, 16xAF and my fps is over 340 on average. Whereas before with any other CAT release I had bad lockups every 10mins
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@ViRuS2k,

Thank you very much for pissing off Hawk, one of the few people who actually made a worthwile contribution in this thread...

You might call yourself a D-H Guru, but afaic It doesn't show

By the way,

for all the people that are still interested in the topic itself...

My 9800Pro is (surprise, surprise) a Powercolor...
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infinite loop... again...

hmmm... hotfix took care of the infinite loop crashes i was getting with CoD, but not the other games i play (NwN and Freedom Fighters are the worst offenders, each bombing out within the first 5 minutes of play). the vpu recover function in the latest cats only works part of the time... and yes, i've tried just about every suggestion out there.
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I noticed that these drivers don't detect Windows Server 2003 correctly (all previous versions did); it gets detected as Windows XP 64-bit, which is totally incorrect and installation fails.
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Yes

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@ViRuS2k,

Thank you very much for pissing off Hawk, one of the few people who actually made a worthwile contribution in this thread...

You might call yourself a D-H Guru, but afaic It doesn't show

By the way,

for all the people that are still interested in the topic itself...

My 9800Pro is (surprise, surprise) a Powercolor...
I second that, and Hawks PMS behaviour. I also have a Powercolor 9800 pro (400/760) and no problems too(but thats not the reason why i got ticked off by PMS behaviour).
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??? Replace the OpenGL file?

Offtopic: Het stikt hier van de NL'ers

Ontopic: Can I just replace the older OpenGL file with the new one and
keep using Omega's 2.4.96c release?

Or does this "HotFix" include more changes?
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Hotfix is 3.10 Cat's without the WHQL, i used those for COD without one single crash..
other games run good aswell, I can recommend those.
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