Low scores with 9800se @ 436:361?!?!

raven_g20 · Jan 9, 2004, 11:56 AM

ok this is gettin really annoying to me...i am gettin like 12500 score in 3dmark2001 with these speeds?!?!? I mean i can see people with less speed gettin higher scores...how in the bloody hell does that happen? i run Aida and i can see that all (8) pipelines are enabled...gpu speed is oc'ed at 437(!) and ram is at 361(724) mhz..why am i gettin so low speeds?? i use default settings on 3dmark2001, disable antivirus, close all background proggies, remove wallpaper, visual styles everything! and still im gettin low scoring! fastwrites disabled and its at agp4x,beacause for some reason when i turn it into 8x after a while windows crashes and when i reboot i get a popup screen sayin that windows shut down because gpu did a fault error or whatever...u think it has to do with the agp speed? i dont think there is much difference there...anyways...any help is greatly appreciated...thank you.

P.S. Btw im usin cat 3.10, but even when i used 3,9 or 3,8 or omega ones i had the same problemo...

/EDIT: Here is the results browser:

3DMark2001 Result

ree · Jan 9, 2004, 12:10 PM

U are comparing Direct X 9 card with DirectX 8 3Dmark2001SE benchmarking...

ree · Jan 9, 2004, 12:11 PM

Try bencmarking in 3Dmark2003, this card should get a better score, the result should be 2800 before modding and 3900 after modding

simonsays · Jan 10, 2004, 09:33 AM

Yeah but dude ..have you even tweaked your other settings ??
Like textures etc.?

Did run the slider to performance in the d3d settings etc.??

Did you disable v-sync?? (this mostly used on tft screens)

BTW those ram clocks are aloittle high for an SE because even though you can softmod it to a pro or non pro that deosnt mean that it has the same memory chips as one of those cards (usually slower) and if you push it to much you lose performance at some point ..NOT gain.

Benchmarking is not as simlpe as it seems ..

There is a lot of trial and error involed.
Trying a setting and then benching every time to see its results....not just fiddle with everthing and expect the best scores.

I ran 30 benchmarks one day and these invlolved a reboot everytime just to find my best possible system ram timmings.

Also not that we dont just push the clocks to whatever we think is ok or just because "you have a friend that ran his up there" and expect it to run the same.
The logical thing to do is start with one clock at a time ( first core than ram) and in LITTLE steps we boost and bench till we find our limits.

Also note that certain drivers on certain operating systems work best (drivers on lets say winxp dont usually work the same as in win2k for example).

Like i said....OVERCLOCKING and BENCHMARKING isnt that simple a deal....

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 10, 2004, 04:38 PM

9800 np is a cut down 9800 pro , 9800se is a cut down 98000 np

a 9600xt an out mustle a 9800se right out of the box

Jan 9, 2004, 11:56 AM	#1
raven_g20 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	Low scores with 9800se @ 436:361?!?! ok this is gettin really annoying to me...i am gettin like 12500 score in 3dmark2001 with these speeds?!?!? I mean i can see people with less speed gettin higher scores...how in the bloody hell does that happen? i run Aida and i can see that all (8) pipelines are enabled...gpu speed is oc'ed at 437(!) and ram is at 361(724) mhz..why am i gettin so low speeds?? i use default settings on 3dmark2001, disable antivirus, close all background proggies, remove wallpaper, visual styles everything! and still im gettin low scoring! fastwrites disabled and its at agp4x,beacause for some reason when i turn it into 8x after a while windows crashes and when i reboot i get a popup screen sayin that windows shut down because gpu did a fault error or whatever...u think it has to do with the agp speed? i dont think there is much difference there...anyways...any help is greatly appreciated...thank you. P.S. Btw im usin cat 3.10, but even when i used 3,9 or 3,8 or omega ones i had the same problemo... /EDIT: Here is the results browser: 3DMark2001 Result __________________ P4 2.8GHz GB-8IK1100 V2.0 1GB Ram Dual DDR400 Saphire 9800Pro Zalman VGA H/sink ZM80C-HP w/ fan HDD 300GB SATA II WinXP Pro Last edited by raven_g20; Jan 9, 2004 at 06:49 PM.

Jan 9, 2004, 12:10 PM	#2
ree DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 0	Hi U are comparing Direct X 9 card with DirectX 8 3Dmark2001SE benchmarking...

Jan 10, 2004, 09:33 AM	#4
simonsays DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	Yeah but dude ..have you even tweaked your other settings ?? Like textures etc.? Did run the slider to performance in the d3d settings etc.?? Did you disable v-sync?? (this mostly used on tft screens) BTW those ram clocks are aloittle high for an SE because even though you can softmod it to a pro or non pro that deosnt mean that it has the same memory chips as one of those cards (usually slower) and if you push it to much you lose performance at some point ..NOT gain. Benchmarking is not as simlpe as it seems .. There is a lot of trial and error involed. Trying a setting and then benching every time to see its results....not just fiddle with everthing and expect the best scores. I ran 30 benchmarks one day and these invlolved a reboot everytime just to find my best possible system ram timmings. Also not that we dont just push the clocks to whatever we think is ok or just because "you have a friend that ran his up there" and expect it to run the same. The logical thing to do is start with one clock at a time ( first core than ram) and in LITTLE steps we boost and bench till we find our limits. Also note that certain drivers on certain operating systems work best (drivers on lets say winxp dont usually work the same as in win2k for example). Like i said....OVERCLOCKING and BENCHMARKING isnt that simple a deal.... __________________

Jan 10, 2004, 04:38 PM	#5
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	9800 np is a cut down 9800 pro , 9800se is a cut down 98000 np a 9600xt an out mustle a 9800se right out of the box __________________

Jan 9, 2004, 12:11 PM	#3
ree DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 0	Try bencmarking in 3Dmark2003, this card should get a better score, the result should be 2800 before modding and 3900 after modding