Catalyst 4.1

MousePotato · Jan 19, 2004, 10:45 PM

------thanks for new drivers Mr Cat doood

The Omega (3.10) set are running so damn fine on my rig at present, that i'm not gonna test the 4.1 set for a while, just so i can see other user opinions.

jimmsta · Jan 19, 2004, 10:54 PM

thanks for the new drivers, but I think I'll wait till Omega's come out.... (IF they come out). I've been using Omega's drivers since the voodoo3 days..

HolyAvenger · Jan 19, 2004, 11:04 PM

Hm...refresh bug ? You mean I won't have to use Powerstrip anymore to enforce my refresh rates ?

Chaos · Jan 19, 2004, 11:04 PM

So far so good here

SmartGART is also fine here.

Increase of 300 points in Aquamark 3, marginal loss in 3DMark01 and a small gain of about 40 points in 3DMark03

No_Style · Jan 19, 2004, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
It seems the problems im hearing are in some way related to driver cleaner, after working through the 3 people ive been in contact with, ive sorted those problems.

if anyone else is having issues with these drivers and smartgart, try installing them over the top without uninstalling the set first.

ill have a chat with Spike about this and see what he says.

Confirmed. I did a full uninstall and when I installed the 4.1s SmartGART was gone and on the Options tab, there was some funky "WMV Acceleration" Option. I did reinstalled ontop of the existing "4.1s" and everything is back to normal.

The question is now: Is it better to install ontop? Or uninstall then install? Does ATI specify which is recommended?

Ev!L-aLphA · Jan 19, 2004, 11:16 PM

Guys didint u know zaradon is on the 4.7 set already

lol =P

any way agian great job on the new release i thought some huge badass stuff would come with these since it has a 4 on it but it didint so WHAT i love these any way dont matter what is new or not thanks catalyst team and every one for making these drivers for us

deewdee · Jan 19, 2004, 11:17 PM

Hmm, I guess I'll skip this one, as all I'm playing atm is Wolf:ET... Unless ATi releases the fix for it. Btw, why not releasing the fix, they say they know what the problem is, right?

No_Style · Jan 19, 2004, 11:18 PM

playing and posting

QSnexus · Jan 19, 2004, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HolyAvenger
Hm...refresh bug ? You mean I won't have to use Powerstrip anymore to enforce my refresh rates ?

No nothing to do with refresh rates. The desktop refresh bug that I'm referring to is when you are exiting a game (majority of Direct3D games/apps) the desktop does not get refreshed and you have to manually right click and hit refresh to clear it up. This happens when you run Direct3D games with a different resolution then what my desktop is set to and/or because I have a background picture displaying on my desktop. Either way this driver release fixed the problem that existed in 3.7 to 3.10's.

rgreen83 · Jan 19, 2004, 11:29 PM

I get an error on every reboot "unable to open the file c:\windows\system32\Atmenuxx.CNT." I used driver/cab cleaner in safe mode. Is this the same error others are getting? and is this an old problem or a new one?

Was using Omega 3.10 before
BBATI 9800xt
2500+
NF7-S

*CATALYST maker* · Jan 19, 2004, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by No_Style
Confirmed. I did a full uninstall and when I installed the 4.1s SmartGART was gone and on the Options tab, there was some funky "WMV Acceleration" Option. I did reinstalled ontop of the existing "4.1s" and everything is back to normal.

The question is now: Is it better to install ontop? Or uninstall then install? Does ATI specify which is recommended?

how did you uninstall?

through windows add/remove, or using 'driver cleaner' or using ATI's "catalyst uninstaller"

Zardon · Jan 19, 2004, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by No_Style
Confirmed. I did a full uninstall and when I installed the 4.1s SmartGART was gone and on the Options tab, there was some funky "WMV Acceleration" Option. I did reinstalled ontop of the existing "4.1s" and everything is back to normal.

The question is now: Is it better to install ontop? Or uninstall then install? Does ATI specify which is recommended?

normally a clean install is good but with this set and his app something appears to be wrong, ive contacted him and im sure he will look into it and update his code.

EDIT: just seen Terrys post above, good point.

Dyre Straits · Jan 19, 2004, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rgreen83
I get an error on every reboot "unable to open the file c:\windows\system32\Atmenuxx.CNT." I used driver/cab cleaner in safe mode. Is this the same error others are getting? and is this an old problem or a new one?

Was using Omega 3.10 before
BBATI 9800xt
2500+
NF7-S

That is the file referenced by one of my previous posts. That error went away after I disabled the ATi Task bar items.

Dyre Straits · Jan 19, 2004, 11:37 PM

As I posted earlier, I DID have problems with the XP CAT 4.1 installation. I had used the Windows Add/Remove option to remove the ATi Control Panel and Omega's ATi Drivers.

What happened after that seems to have cleared up after simply installing the new CAT 4.1s right over everything. I didn't try uninstalling anything after the initial uninstall using the Windows Add/Remove option.

FiatluX · Jan 19, 2004, 11:37 PM

Downloaded, installed (on top for the 1st time ever !

) and
so far the 4.1´s seem to be much sharper and deeper in saturation

, very good work ATI !!!

THX ATI !

UPDATE: Desktop refresh issue fixed

I plain luv these drivers, Smartgart running like a charm !

By far the best drivers yet in my opinion !!!

rgreen83 · Jan 19, 2004, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CATALYST maker
how did you uninstall?

through windows add/remove, or using 'driver cleaner' or using ATI's "catalyst uninstaller"

uninstalled Omega setup files through windows add/remove, then catalyst uninstaller for drivers, reboot into safe mode for driver/cab cleaner, reboot to normal mode - let windows install stock driver, reboot installed 4.1 full package.

Q for Dyre Straits, are you using SP2 2055? Could that be related?

DosCervezas · Jan 19, 2004, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rgreen83
let windows install stock driver\

That is never a good idea. You need to cancel out of the "New Hardware Found Wizard" then install the 4.1's. Never let Windowzzzzzzzzzzzz install it's drivers then install CAT's on top of them.

Dyre Straits · Jan 19, 2004, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rgreen83
..................Q for Dyre Straits, are you using SP2 2055? Could that be related?

Yes, I am using SP2 2055. Not sure if it's related or not, though.

~~Crash Override~~ · Jan 20, 2004, 12:30 AM

you guys still didnt figure out that it should be 4.01 yet if you really want to make everyone happy?

I mean Im not trying to harp but 4.x doesnt work once you reach release 4.10 again.

I mean sure it works out only if you are using the . as a divider but if you were to do 4.01 etc then it would be both mathematically correct and would still work as a version number

Think about how months are written

For instance this is 01/19/2004

See what I mean

Other than that Im gonna test and see if this fixes my NFS:U issue

H82LUZ · Jan 20, 2004, 12:37 AM

All is Fine here on my 9600XT ,YAHOO You dudes ROCK!!! I have a temp sensor thing now under my overdrive tab YES!!!!!!!!! Although I don`t see why some guys on the net were saying the 9600XT had no sensor ?

HolyAvenger · Jan 20, 2004, 12:42 AM

LOL, the 4.1/4.01 issue again. Some people will never realize that version numbers have nothing to do with mathematics, will they ? 4.1 is version 2004, 1st release. 4.10 will be version 2004, 10th release.

~~Crash Override~~ · Jan 20, 2004, 12:43 AM

ok well Motion Blur is still totally broken under NFS:U as is Anti-Aliasing

Anytime I use the motion blur the screen goes almost totally black

Also when I go fast in the car due to the motion blur effects it causes the screen to slowly go darker

Also while I know overclocking isnt supported I suddently just lost the ability to do pretty much anything over PRO speeds on this thing

I was at 351/351 stably for months until now

This is the first set I have ever had complaints about really

~~Crash Override~~ · Jan 20, 2004, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HolyAvenger
LOL, the 4.1/4.01 issue again. Some people will never realize that version numbers have nothing to do with mathematics, will they ? 4.1 is version 2004, 1st release. 4.10 will be version 2004, 10th release.

Obviously you didnt read my post

I said that while their way works since they are using the . as a divider that they should just do it as .01 since .01 still works out to one if they are using the . as a divider since the month of january is 01/2004

See my point? That is a way to keep everyone happy. Plus anyone whos done software programming feels like smacking them everytime they see the 3.10 release

Also until this point all software products versions I have ever seen have always been mathematically correct.

For instance Windows 3.11 is really Windows 3.1.1 if you look hard enough to see the major/minor/revision

Trust me software releases have always been based in correct mathematics till now.

This is the first time I've ever seen a software company to basically tell the tech elite to piss off on something.

Runner3001 · Jan 20, 2004, 12:57 AM

7.97 is the driver revision of the Catalyst 4.1's, 7.96 was the revision of the 3.10's. They aren't naming them correctly according to programming logic under the MARKETING term Catalyst because the cat number was never suppose to be a revision number.

No_Style · Jan 20, 2004, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Runner3001
7.97 is the driver revision of the Catalyst 4.1's, 7.96 was the revision of the 3.10's. They aren't naming them correctly according to programming logic under the MARKETING term Catalyst because the cat number was never suppose to be a revision number.

Good Point.

~~Crash Override~~ · Jan 20, 2004, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Runner3001
7.97 is the driver revision of the Catalyst 4.1's, 7.96 was the revision of the 3.10's. They aren't naming them correctly according to programming logic under the MARKETING term Catalyst because the cat number was never suppose to be a revision number.

Im aware of the driver revision. However whenever you name a suite of products something and it has changes those are revisions.

For instance when Nero undergoes a revision to the whole package it follows programming logic for the name of the Suite instead just for the components of the suite.

Trust me it makes more logical sense to name them the other way but thats neither here nor there.

My main issue is that NFS:U still doesnt work for me and Im not sure if its the EA patch for it or if its the catalyst drivers. I really want to be able to use AA and Motion Blur.

boby · Jan 20, 2004, 01:09 AM

just instale c4.1 on my second system with 9200 and verything fine.since i'm not playing games on second system,i can't give any report.SMARTGURT is there. And i first uninstal c.3.10 through add/remove with ati softver utility,then reboot,hit f8 and start driver cleaner,reboot,instal c4.1,reboot and everything is fine.

tornado=[GSW]= · Jan 20, 2004, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crash Override
ok well Motion Blur is still totally broken under NFS:U as is Anti-Aliasing

Anytime I use the motion blur the screen goes almost totally black

Also when I go fast in the car due to the motion blur effects it causes the screen to slowly go darker

man that is a game issue not a driver issue, do not install patch 3 of nfsu and u will see that the game works fine, though motion blur certainly doesnt work with the driver AA/AF turned on, that much I can confirm.

BetrayerX · Jan 20, 2004, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
guys some people PMing me saying smartgart isnt working, can anyone verify this please? (im on a newer set)

Works like a charm here.

Using a 9700Pro and WinXP

boby · Jan 20, 2004, 01:14 AM

one Q for terry,when is gonna ATI relesed SLOVENIAN language support on radeon drivers?nVidia has it

Jan 19, 2004, 10:54 PM	#32
jimmsta WINDOWS XP. YAY! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 62 Rep Power: 0	thanks for the new drivers, but I think I'll wait till Omega's come out.... (IF they come out). I've been using Omega's drivers since the voodoo3 days.. __________________ So, I herd you liek mudkips? \| AMD Opteron 185 (2x2.6), 3GB DDR400, 4x250GB WD HDDs, Abit KN8-SLI, nVidia GF6600GT, WinXP MCE, Audigy2 ZS

Jan 19, 2004, 11:04 PM	#34
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	So far so good here SmartGART is also fine here. Increase of 300 points in Aquamark 3, marginal loss in 3DMark01 and a small gain of about 40 points in 3DMark03 __________________

Jan 19, 2004, 11:16 PM	#36
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 60	Guys didint u know zaradon is on the 4.7 set already lol =P any way agian great job on the new release i thought some huge badass stuff would come with these since it has a 4 on it but it didint so WHAT i love these any way dont matter what is new or not thanks catalyst team and every one for making these drivers for us __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08

Jan 19, 2004, 11:18 PM	#38
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	RTCW works fine.. playing and posting __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Jan 19, 2004, 11:37 PM	#45
FiatluX DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 53 Rep Power: 0	Downloaded, installed (on top for the 1st time ever ! ) and so far the 4.1´s seem to be much sharper and deeper in saturation , very good work ATI !!! THX ATI ! UPDATE: Desktop refresh issue fixed I plain luv these drivers, Smartgart running like a charm ! By far the best drivers yet in my opinion !!! Last edited by FiatluX; Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49 AM.

Jan 19, 2004, 10:45 PM	#31
MousePotato HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: N.S., Canada Posts: 124 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	------thanks for new drivers Mr Cat doood The Omega (3.10) set are running so damn fine on my rig at present, that i'm not gonna test the 4.1 set for a while, just so i can see other user opinions.

Jan 19, 2004, 11:04 PM	#33
HolyAvenger DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	Hm...refresh bug ? You mean I won't have to use Powerstrip anymore to enforce my refresh rates ?

Jan 19, 2004, 11:17 PM	#37
deewdee DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Hmm, I guess I'll skip this one, as all I'm playing atm is Wolf:ET... Unless ATi releases the fix for it. Btw, why not releasing the fix, they say they know what the problem is, right?

Jan 19, 2004, 11:29 PM	#40
rgreen83 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 357 Rep Power: 0	I get an error on every reboot "unable to open the file c:\windows\system32\Atmenuxx.CNT." I used driver/cab cleaner in safe mode. Is this the same error others are getting? and is this an old problem or a new one? Was using Omega 3.10 before BBATI 9800xt 2500+ NF7-S

Jan 20, 2004, 12:30 AM	#49
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	you guys still didnt figure out that it should be 4.01 yet if you really want to make everyone happy? I mean Im not trying to harp but 4.x doesnt work once you reach release 4.10 again. I mean sure it works out only if you are using the . as a divider but if you were to do 4.01 etc then it would be both mathematically correct and would still work as a version number Think about how months are written For instance this is 01/19/2004 See what I mean Other than that Im gonna test and see if this fixes my NFS:U issue

Jan 20, 2004, 12:37 AM	#50
H82LUZ HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cobourg ,Ontario ,Canada Posts: 114 Rep Power: 53 System Specs	All is Fine here on my 9600XT ,YAHOO You dudes ROCK!!! I have a temp sensor thing now under my overdrive tab YES!!!!!!!!! Although I don`t see why some guys on the net were saying the 9600XT had no sensor ? __________________

Jan 20, 2004, 12:42 AM	#51
HolyAvenger DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	LOL, the 4.1/4.01 issue again. Some people will never realize that version numbers have nothing to do with mathematics, will they ? 4.1 is version 2004, 1st release. 4.10 will be version 2004, 10th release.

Jan 20, 2004, 12:43 AM	#52
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	ok well Motion Blur is still totally broken under NFS:U as is Anti-Aliasing Anytime I use the motion blur the screen goes almost totally black Also when I go fast in the car due to the motion blur effects it causes the screen to slowly go darker Also while I know overclocking isnt supported I suddently just lost the ability to do pretty much anything over PRO speeds on this thing I was at 351/351 stably for months until now This is the first set I have ever had complaints about really

Jan 20, 2004, 12:57 AM	#54
Runner3001 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 41 Rep Power: 0	7.97 is the driver revision of the Catalyst 4.1's, 7.96 was the revision of the 3.10's. They aren't naming them correctly according to programming logic under the MARKETING term Catalyst because the cat number was never suppose to be a revision number.

Jan 20, 2004, 01:09 AM	#57
boby DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: slovenia-maribor Posts: 326 Rep Power: 0	just instale c4.1 on my second system with 9200 and verything fine.since i'm not playing games on second system,i can't give any report.SMARTGURT is there. And i first uninstal c.3.10 through add/remove with ati softver utility,then reboot,hit f8 and start driver cleaner,reboot,instal c4.1,reboot and everything is fine. __________________ NF7-S,AMD 2500+@2300MHz-&SP97+ 92mm vantec tornado on 2800rpm, MSi 5900SP 2X256MB Hyperx PC3200 DM+9 120GB SATA HDD Yamaha cd-rw 20/10/40 WIN XP PRO(SP1)

Jan 20, 2004, 01:14 AM	#60
boby DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: slovenia-maribor Posts: 326 Rep Power: 0	one Q for terry,when is gonna ATI relesed SLOVENIAN language support on radeon drivers?nVidia has it __________________ NF7-S,AMD 2500+@2300MHz-&SP97+ 92mm vantec tornado on 2800rpm, MSi 5900SP 2X256MB Hyperx PC3200 DM+9 120GB SATA HDD Yamaha cd-rw 20/10/40 WIN XP PRO(SP1)