Refresh Rate waves with radeon 9800...

JedyKnight · Feb 5, 2004, 12:18 AM

Im wondering if u can help me. I bought a radeon 9800 SE from powercolor and there is a strange problem. I can see the waves from the refresh rate on the monitor, i tried to link the monitor to the dvi exit and still the problem is there. I tried to cool the metal plate on the radeon and still the problem is there. It isnt from the drivers.
Any help Would be apreciated.

hEre are my systems specs:
Epox 8RGA+ (nforce2)
Athlon XP2600+ @2388(11x217)
Chieftec 420w (maybe 400w not sure)
SWIFTECH MCX462+ @TT SmartFan2
2x256 Kingston HyperX ddr433 @11-2-2-2
Ati 9800 SE @ pro (400/370)
Northbridge (Zalman ZM-NB47J + fan)
Maxtor40gb ata133

On

WinXP
DX 9.0b

Rayder · Feb 5, 2004, 06:03 AM

Possibly, and this could be a stretch, try plugging the monitor into another outlet somewhere. When I had a similar problem, that was all it really was. There was some kind of interference going on.

Other things that MIGHT help.

Don't run power cords and the monitor or other system cables parallel, keep them as far away from each other as possible. If they MUST cross each other, do an absolute crossing "+".

Move your PC away from the monitor, it could be that the new video card (or some other component) really throws out the RF/EMI interference.

Does that 9800se use the extra 12volt plug on it? Try a different plug, the one you're using may be connected to something that is slurping lots of power, causing inconsisent power. If you're out of spare 12volt taps, try switching the ones already connected to various components around.

Possibly the power supply is straining itself to provide power. Many power supplies don't actually do what they say they can or their amp ratings are too low on the rails, especially if it's of an older generation. Use something like an Antec TruPower or an EnerMax (I'm sure some members here can suggest other high quality PSU's) and maybe push about 500watts or more.

Hope something here helps ya.

JedyKnight · Feb 5, 2004, 11:06 AM

I just noticed my 12v line is at 11.73 .. perhaps that is the problem ?

Tkz for ur help

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 5, 2004, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JedyKnight
I just noticed my 12v line is at 11.73 .. perhaps that is the problem ?

Tkz for ur help

Could be but that’s close being within spec, and you really need to test with a DVM it's a lot more accurate. The board’s sensors are good but they are uncaliberated and the reading can’t be fully relied on

Make sure that you have the latest bios for your board; and there is not anything that could be interfering with in 3 feet. Also make sure you cords aren’t a tangled mess. Cords can cross but should only do so a right angles to reduce EMI. Make sure there is nothing in the pci slot next to your video card.

There was someone with similar issues and fixed it with a bios update….

(also might try lowering your overclock)

Logla · Feb 5, 2004, 06:59 PM

Move any kind of desktop lamp well away from the monitor, cables and pc itself. If you have one that is. and unplug it from the wall outlet as well.

Pluvious · Feb 5, 2004, 07:19 PM

Just wanted to mention that powered FANS always cause major issues on computer monitors .. but its so bad it would be obvious that was the cause.

JedyKnight · Feb 6, 2004, 12:43 AM

Its weird because all was fine with my gf4 ti4800 .. only with ati this strange issue apeared, so is none of the mentioned it seems :|

~~Crash Override~~ · Feb 6, 2004, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JedyKnight
Its weird because all was fine with my gf4 ti4800 .. only with ati this strange issue apeared, so is none of the mentioned it seems :|

Is it near a TV?

I mean as in within a few feet.

I just setup a system with a 9600XT where the monitor was doing this and it turned out it was his TV putting out interference.

As soon as he turned it off it worked just fine. So now he can only have one on at a time.

JedyKnight · Feb 8, 2004, 11:24 AM

nop, not near a tv ... i realy dont understand whats happening :|

Grivel · Feb 8, 2004, 08:35 PM

I had a similar problem - solved it by moving my speakers

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Ev!L-aLphA · Feb 8, 2004, 10:14 PM

Guys Try to disable DCC in control pannel

go to advanced-displayes-click monitor- and than click the button that says use dcc and make sure its unchecked

message me back if it fixed it

JedyKnight · Feb 9, 2004, 12:45 AM

Ok .. not the speakers .. not the Dcc .. erm just 1 thing to say ->

Bicka · Feb 9, 2004, 01:08 AM

You not just got the refresh rate set to high for your monitor? I could put mine up from 75 to 85 but I'd get a wavey line appear and its distracting.

Feb 5, 2004, 12:18 AM	#1
JedyKnight DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Refresh Rate waves with radeon 9800... Im wondering if u can help me. I bought a radeon 9800 SE from powercolor and there is a strange problem. I can see the waves from the refresh rate on the monitor, i tried to link the monitor to the dvi exit and still the problem is there. I tried to cool the metal plate on the radeon and still the problem is there. It isnt from the drivers. Any help Would be apreciated. hEre are my systems specs: Epox 8RGA+ (nforce2) Athlon XP2600+ @2388(11x217) Chieftec 420w (maybe 400w not sure) SWIFTECH MCX462+ @TT SmartFan2 2x256 Kingston HyperX ddr433 @11-2-2-2 Ati 9800 SE @ pro (400/370) Northbridge (Zalman ZM-NB47J + fan) Maxtor40gb ata133 On WinXP DX 9.0b

Feb 5, 2004, 07:19 PM	#6
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 0	Just wanted to mention that powered FANS always cause major issues on computer monitors .. but its so bad it would be obvious that was the cause. __________________

Feb 8, 2004, 10:14 PM	#11
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 0	Guys Try to disable DCC in control pannel go to advanced-displayes-click monitor- and than click the button that says use dcc and make sure its unchecked message me back if it fixed it __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08

Feb 5, 2004, 06:03 AM	#2
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,161 Rep Power: 73	Possibly, and this could be a stretch, try plugging the monitor into another outlet somewhere. When I had a similar problem, that was all it really was. There was some kind of interference going on. Other things that MIGHT help. Don't run power cords and the monitor or other system cables parallel, keep them as far away from each other as possible. If they MUST cross each other, do an absolute crossing "+". Move your PC away from the monitor, it could be that the new video card (or some other component) really throws out the RF/EMI interference. Does that 9800se use the extra 12volt plug on it? Try a different plug, the one you're using may be connected to something that is slurping lots of power, causing inconsisent power. If you're out of spare 12volt taps, try switching the ones already connected to various components around. Possibly the power supply is straining itself to provide power. Many power supplies don't actually do what they say they can or their amp ratings are too low on the rails, especially if it's of an older generation. Use something like an Antec TruPower or an EnerMax (I'm sure some members here can suggest other high quality PSU's) and maybe push about 500watts or more. Hope something here helps ya.

Feb 5, 2004, 11:06 AM	Thread Starter #3
JedyKnight DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	I just noticed my 12v line is at 11.73 .. perhaps that is the problem ? Tkz for ur help

Feb 5, 2004, 06:59 PM	#5
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	Move any kind of desktop lamp well away from the monitor, cables and pc itself. If you have one that is. and unplug it from the wall outlet as well.

Feb 6, 2004, 12:43 AM	Thread Starter #7
JedyKnight DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Its weird because all was fine with my gf4 ti4800 .. only with ati this strange issue apeared, so is none of the mentioned it seems :\|

Feb 8, 2004, 11:24 AM	Thread Starter #9
JedyKnight DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	nop, not near a tv ... i realy dont understand whats happening :\|

Feb 8, 2004, 08:35 PM	#10
Grivel DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	I had a similar problem - solved it by moving my speakers .

Feb 9, 2004, 12:45 AM	Thread Starter #12
JedyKnight DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Ok .. not the speakers .. not the Dcc .. erm just 1 thing to say ->

Feb 9, 2004, 01:08 AM	#13
Bicka DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 670 Rep Power: 0	You not just got the refresh rate set to high for your monitor? I could put mine up from 75 to 85 but I'd get a wavey line appear and its distracting.