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Old Jun 22, 2004, 03:44 PM   #1
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Windows XP Service Pack 2 Release Candidate 2 Preview

Anybody tried out the latest release candidate of Windows XP SP2?

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...p2preview.mspx
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Old Jun 22, 2004, 04:05 PM   #2
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yep works great for me. looks like it's really close to the final.
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Old Jun 22, 2004, 05:46 PM   #3
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yea i've been running it for about 2 or 3 weeks now
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Cool; I think I'll give it a try.
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Old Jun 24, 2004, 02:59 AM   #5
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Old Jun 24, 2004, 10:19 AM   #6
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Yep it is perfect. A lot more secure and now IE is also more secure and blocks popups and those stupid activex that is installed without knowing it and than you have those very annoying adware on your pc like xv2 or vx2.
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Old Jun 24, 2004, 01:59 PM   #7
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I won't install it. Actually, i hate SP2. It's taking up to 50MB of ram more than SP1. It really doesn't matter to me, since next day we gonna see pre SP3 hotfix. Guys just get hardware firewall and you're free of viruses etc...

SP thing is just BS. to me...
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I won't install it. Actually, i hate SP2. It's taking up to 50MB of ram more than SP1. It really doesn't matter to me, since next day we gonna see pre SP3 hotfix. Guys just get hardware firewall and you're free of viruses etc...

SP thing is just BS. to me...
So a new os is bs?
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No, I'm saying SP is pointless to me...

SP2 is nothing but collection of all hotfixes since SP1 was released...

DX9.0c you can install any time, and so on...

You have no idea what a mess Microsoft did by providing ATI and NVIDIA drivers with the SP release.
It's a mess in the registry. I know how to remove ATI and NVIDIA drivers from installation CD, including driver.cab and sp2.cab

Anyway, security center and other things are nothing but tools for dummies...
I even removed restore tool, and other things from my windows XP SP1, because it's useless and system consuming.
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1 things a hardware firewall does not do is block popups and prevent the installation of a lot of spyware. Also i have 2 hardware firewalls running here. But i like the sp packs especially becauset hey fix the exploits in windows.
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But i like the sp packs especially becauset hey fix the exploits in windows.

And from what MS has said their will be serveral fixes in SP2 that you can't get as a seperate download so the smart thing to do is install the SP.

As for memory usage I have seen no increase at all on my 2 installations. If you are seeing more memory in use you have to keep in mind that these are still not final releases and things are still being tweaked.
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Old Jun 25, 2004, 02:09 AM   #12
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I don't use IE, but mozilla...

I removed IE from my computer

I never got virus, or worm...

I neither run antivirus program. Norton is actually virus...
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Old Jun 25, 2004, 04:58 AM   #13
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I've had two problems with RC2. I was unable to install new drivers for my Radeon because I kept getting a error at the install screen. Same thing with Farcry. I would get to the install screen and I would get an error and I would have to close it out. I hope this doesn't happen with the official release. I doesn't do this when RC2 isn't installed.
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I don't use IE, but mozilla...

I removed IE from my computer

I never got virus, or worm...

I neither run antivirus program. Norton is actually virus...

-You will never fully remove IE unless you are using Win 98 or older. No matter how much of it you think you have removed, it is still there.

-You may have never gotten a virus or a worm but you are not dead yet so there is always a chance no matter how careful you are

-Not running any A/V software is stupid but it is your choice. Not running any A/V software is like not wearing your seatbelt. Nothing has happend yet but it is better to be safe then sorry. If you are worried about cpu/memory usage with A/V software then do some research and find a package that uses little of both. Yes Norton is a hog but several other A/V progs out there are very good with memory/cpu such as Trend Micro and Kaspersky.

Nobody is invincible and precautions need to be taken. All it takes is one minor "oops" and you will have a mess on your hands. I have worked on securing PC's and networks for 3+ years and I have seen plenty of people like yourself who felt that A/V software was a waste and that they had/would NEVER get a virus. Yet 99% of the time I am at their house making $$ off this statement of thiers because they made 1 mistake... overconfidence.....

Am I saying I will NEVER get a virus because I patch everything and run A/V software and have a Enterprise level firewall and run an Intrusion Detection System? No not at all... I can still get one... but my chances of getting one AND having my system clean in a VERY short time is much better then yours.
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-You will never fully remove IE unless you are using Win 98 or older. No matter how much of it you think you have removed, it is still there.

-You may have never gotten a virus or a worm but you are not dead yet so there is always a chance no matter how careful you are

-Not running any A/V software is stupid but it is your choice. Not running any A/V software is like not wearing your seatbelt. Nothing has happend yet but it is better to be safe then sorry. If you are worried about cpu/memory usage with A/V software then do some research and find a package that uses little of both. Yes Norton is a hog but several other A/V progs out there are very good with memory/cpu such as Trend Micro and Kaspersky.

Nobody is invincible and precautions need to be taken. All it takes is one minor "oops" and you will have a mess on your hands. I have worked on securing PC's and networks for 3+ years and I have seen plenty of people like yourself who felt that A/V software was a waste and that they had/would NEVER get a virus. Yet 99% of the time I am at their house making $$ off this statement of thiers because they made 1 mistake... overconfidence.....

Am I saying I will NEVER get a virus because I patch everything and run A/V software and have a Enterprise level firewall and run an Intrusion Detection System? No not at all... I can still get one... but my chances of getting one AND having my system clean in a VERY short time is much better then yours.
Actually IE can be removed from windows XP but not as you think...through Add Remove Programs.
I removed it from installation CD. Windows XP has no clue about IE, System Restore and so on. The version of Windows XP i'm running is taking only 250MB (installation CD).

I'm using hardware firewall /linksys, and if you know your system, that's more than enough. Of course there are antivirus programs, firewalls for people, who don't know about OS and computers, and those people need it.
I understand that.

I don't use standard windows name for Windows, program files name for Program files, and document and setting for Documents and settings.
It's apple, tv, cat, dog not really those names but Even If I get virus, worm etc it will not have a clue where is it

I took the windows XP to the complete another level, taking only 60mb of RAM, performing and doing thing faster than any other computer (with similar hardware components) out there.
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Yes i use also 2 linksys routers, but maybe you allready read it but there are exploits in the linksys firmwares. Just read some websites.
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Actually IE can be removed from windows XP but not as you think...through Add Remove Programs.
I removed it from installation CD. Windows XP has no clue about IE, System Restore and so on. The version of Windows XP i'm running is taking only 250MB (installation CD).

I'm using hardware firewall /linksys, and if you know your system, that's more than enough. Of course there are antivirus programs, firewalls for people, who don't know about OS and computers, and those people need it.
I understand that.

I don't use standard windows name for Windows, program files name for Program files, and document and setting for Documents and settings.
It's apple, tv, cat, dog not really those names but Even If I get virus, worm etc it will not have a clue where is it

I took the windows XP to the complete another level, taking only 60mb of RAM, performing and doing thing faster than any other computer (with similar hardware components) out there.

Well if you still have windows explorer on your PC you still have part of IE. You can not fully remove IE... it is not possible.

As for firewalls & A/V you are saying if you need those you don't know about OS's & PC's??!! That I am sorry to say is incorrect. I give you credit for renaming folders and the such but that won't stop every worm and virus out there. There are many that don't give a rip what you named a folder they will still find what they need and cause hell. I am sorry you feel that people who know Computers and OS's very well don't need security measures. That is just plain stupid. That is like saying you only need to wear a seatbelt if you don't know how to drive a car. As for Linksys firewalls, they are good but like Spike said they too have a vulnerability. NOTHING is perfect out there. No matter how many precautions you take you will still have a hole somewhere BUT by patching and putting up the correct precautions you will keep it to a min.
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