CATALYST 4.7 available

fleon · Jul 10, 2004, 04:58 PM

How about problems with mpg and avi files playing? In 4.5 and lower, my mobility 9700 worked just fine. Now it's choppy and basically unplayable unless I knock down the HW accelleration one notch. And even then it has problems w/ some in game video- like Rise of Nations intro....

Below 30 · Jul 11, 2004, 02:03 AM

Normally in Jedi Outcast, anti aliasing causes slow-down no matter what level. I tried AA on with "Temporal" and the difference is noticed. At 6x It drops as low as about 35fps at 1280x720 which is better than temporal off. At 2x AA there is no real noticeable drop from 60fps, it goes between 50-60fps.

The addition of temporal is therefore a positive one.

Now just to wait for HDTV-DVI screen functions.

~~REGENERAT1ON~~ · Jul 12, 2004, 05:44 PM

the entire Counter-Strike community is being ignored by Valve and ATI regarding Counter-Strike 1.6 FPS issue with the ATI cards. even tweaking it to the maximum is not enough.. if ill compare.. its seems to be that 9800XT CS performence is even less then Ti4600 series by NVIDIA. personally i am very dispointed from the OpenGL & CS 1.6 performence and the fact that ATI/Valve keep ignoring.. there is thread on Valve forums around thousands of views.. and its just no one cares.
Counter-Strike is popular multiplayer game. and if you will google around.. you will find millions of posts (Radeon & CS 1.6)
and ATI is already replied before a long time ago:

"Counter-Strike: Random frame drops with 1.6 game patch"

"The information in this article applies to the following configuration:
CATALYST 3.7 and 3.8 Display Drivers
All RADEON based graphics boards
A noticeable drop in frame rate will occur when playing the game Half-Life: Counter-Strike.

ATI Engineering has been advised of this issue and is investigating.

To work around this issue, please download and install previous CATALYST 3.6 driver suite:
"
its very old and we never heard about this issue for a very long time.

a reminder:CS 1.5 performence is great its just the new v1.6 suffering from horrible frame rates drops and bad performence. (this fact killing the Quake 2 OpenGL engine excuse)

really hope to see better OpenGL performence in the next catalyst or update from Valve (someone gotta break the ice. and i hope its not gonna be CS: Source)

p.s
the latest catalyst OpenGL driver got improved a bit.. but still the older OpenGL 2.4-3.4 is faster
and from my benchmarks: Radeon 9800XT is performing slower by almost 52% from "old" nVIDIA cards in Counter-Strike 1.6

germanjulian · Jul 13, 2004, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kelston
Well, 4.7 seems to make my existing problem even worse.

Whereas with 4.6 or Omega 4.6s, I only experienced lock ups in DX9 or OpenGL games, and was able to play America's Army and CS in D3D mode, now with 4.7, both AA and CS lock up as well.

Sadface.

funny that lockups normally dont have to do anything with 1 particular set of drivers...

rather then blaming ati drives try fixing you pc and make sure ur graphic card is not overheatig.

germanjulian · Jul 13, 2004, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by REGENERAT1ON
the entire Counter-Strike community is being ignored by Valve and ATI regarding Counter-Strike 1.6 FPS issue with the ATI cards. even tweaking it to the maximum is not enough.. if ill compare.. its seems to be that 9800XT CS performence is even less then Ti4600 series by NVIDIA. personally i am very dispointed from the OpenGL & CS 1.6 performence and the fact that ATI/Valve keep ignoring.. there is thread on Valve forums around thousands of views.. and its just no one cares.
Counter-Strike is popular multiplayer game. and if you will google around.. you will find millions of posts (Rad... blah blah blah...

4AA and 16AF and I get 500FPS

Bicka · Jul 13, 2004, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by germanjulian
4AA and 16AF and I get 500FPS

Try Aztec, bombsite above the water and looking at a few players on screen. If you still get something over 100fps then I really will be envious

illegal-op · Jul 13, 2004, 08:19 PM

I love people who use developer 1 and then brag about getting over 100 ftps. Using developer 1 is just to brag that u get over 100 fps but when you are getting 500 fps and then get into a firefight and it drops to even just 200 fps, thats a 300 fps drop which will effect your game more than someone dropping from 100 fps to 40 fps. Set developer back to 0, do you get any fps drops or do you get a constant 99-100 fps no matter the map or game situation?

The whole issue is not how high you can get your fps to, its the fact of the major drops in fps. I'm not saying this includes all ati users, just a vast majority of them. You would think the opengl driver would be able to handle a 4-5 year old game engine.

rwolf · Jul 14, 2004, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by REGENERAT1ON
the entire Counter-Strike community is being ignored by Valve and ATI regarding Counter-Strike 1.6 FPS issue with the ATI cards. even tweaking it to the maximum is not enough.. if ill compare.. its seems to be that 9800XT CS performence is even less then Ti4600 series by NVIDIA. personally i am very dispointed from the OpenGL & CS 1.6 performence and the fact that ATI/Valve keep ignoring.. there is thread on Valve forums around thousands of views.. and its just no one cares.
Counter-Strike is popular multiplayer game. and if you will google around.. you will find millions of posts (Radeon & CS 1.6)
and ATI is already replied before a long time ago:

"Counter-Strike: Random frame drops with 1.6 game patch"

"The information in this article applies to the following configuration:
CATALYST 3.7 and 3.8 Display Drivers
All RADEON based graphics boards
A noticeable drop in frame rate will occur when playing the game Half-Life: Counter-Strike.

ATI Engineering has been advised of this issue and is investigating.

To work around this issue, please download and install previous CATALYST 3.6 driver suite:
"
its very old and we never heard about this issue for a very long time.

a reminder:CS 1.5 performence is great its just the new v1.6 suffering from horrible frame rates drops and bad performence. (this fact killing the Quake 2 OpenGL engine excuse)

really hope to see better OpenGL performence in the next catalyst or update from Valve (someone gotta break the ice. and i hope its not gonna be CS: Source)

p.s
the latest catalyst OpenGL driver got improved a bit.. but still the older OpenGL 2.4-3.4 is faster
and from my benchmarks: Radeon 9800XT is performing slower by almost 52% from "old" nVIDIA cards in Counter-Strike 1.6

I have heard from a few sources that ATI is rewritting the OpenGL drivers. Perhaps their OpenGL development team is busy.

LA_MERC_Mavrick · Jul 14, 2004, 05:59 PM

hi, this is my first post here, but i recently installed the omega drivers for my ati 9800pro, and i must say they make cs look awesome with temporalaa, 4xAA, and 8xAF, I still experience fps drops, but not near as often and usually it only happens when there are about 15 peeps on the screen all firing and throwing grenades...lol. I do have a problem that I cant seem to figure out. Since Cat 4.6, I have not been able to play any type of video files, my cpu usage goes up to 100% even trying to open media player or powerdvd, and i have to manually reboot my computer to close out of the programs. However, if I install the Cat 4.5 drivers, I can play video and dvds with no problems. Any ideas as to what may be causing this? As I was reading through this forum, i noticed someone mention a program called driver cleaner to remove unneccesary previous driver files, i figured i would completely uninstall the video drivers, run the program, then reinstall the drivers to see if that fixed my issue, but i would appreciate any other ideas.

Chaos · Jul 14, 2004, 06:26 PM

Welcome to DH

Can you supply some more details of your system specs

Driver Cleaner

Make sure to read the readme file for detailed instructions, Driver Cleaner is a powerful tool that if not used properly can cause undesired results.

If you take the time to read the instructions it can be a life saver at times because it can remove many things besides your ATI drivers.

I hope I didn't scare you away but I like to pass on the heads up to all users

LA_MERC_Mavrick · Jul 14, 2004, 06:39 PM

Sure, I appreciate the heads up -

Ive got a:
Retail ATI 9800pro 128mb w/Artic Cooler
AMD 2400+ running the thermaltake volcano 11
DFI Lanparty NF2 Mobo
Sound Blaster Audigy 2
2x512 mb DDR 2700 with memory heat sinks
Pioneer 8x DVDRW+

FR4GGL3 · Jul 14, 2004, 07:28 PM

i love the new 4.7 set
but
here it is - the old annoing question:
when can i expect omegas set?

Chaos · Jul 14, 2004, 07:32 PM

FR4GGL3 reduce you signature size to 400x100 maximum please and thank you

this is not the place to ask about Omega drivers release please make future posts to this thread

FR4GGL3 · Jul 14, 2004, 07:35 PM

sorry for both!

Chaos · Jul 14, 2004, 09:17 PM

no problem dude

thx for responding in a timely manner

franguinho · Jul 15, 2004, 06:08 PM

havent tried yet but ever since 4.3 ive been wary to try new versions as they usually did more harm than good

nayeri · Jul 16, 2004, 04:01 PM

Catalyst 4.7 is better than other version.

deekey777 · Jul 23, 2004, 08:55 PM

New CAT is on its way...

Rosco[CoF] · Jul 23, 2004, 09:06 PM

Please let these be the golden OpenGL drivers!

dipstick · Aug 8, 2004, 01:57 AM

Sorry to bump an old thread but I was wondering if anyone has noticed problems with Halo and the 4.7 cats? Everything's fine until I get to the Halo menu and everything starts flashing.
Thx

Edit- Nevermind, its SP2 that breaks halo

Jul 11, 2004, 02:03 AM	#122
Below 30 Video Games Fo Life Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Region of Peel, Ontario, Canada Posts: 109 Rep Power: 0	Normally in Jedi Outcast, anti aliasing causes slow-down no matter what level. I tried AA on with "Temporal" and the difference is noticed. At 6x It drops as low as about 35fps at 1280x720 which is better than temporal off. At 2x AA there is no real noticeable drop from 60fps, it goes between 50-60fps. The addition of temporal is therefore a positive one. Now just to wait for HDTV-DVI screen functions. __________________ [color=yellow][color=#ff1493]When Skills Ruled [/color][/color]

Jul 12, 2004, 05:44 PM	#123
~~REGENERAT1ON~~ NGO Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 409 Rep Power: 0	the entire Counter-Strike community is being ignored by Valve and ATI regarding Counter-Strike 1.6 FPS issue with the ATI cards. even tweaking it to the maximum is not enough.. if ill compare.. its seems to be that 9800XT CS performence is even less then Ti4600 series by NVIDIA. personally i am very dispointed from the OpenGL & CS 1.6 performence and the fact that ATI/Valve keep ignoring.. there is thread on Valve forums around thousands of views.. and its just no one cares. Counter-Strike is popular multiplayer game. and if you will google around.. you will find millions of posts (Radeon & CS 1.6) and ATI is already replied before a long time ago: "Counter-Strike: Random frame drops with 1.6 game patch" "The information in this article applies to the following configuration: CATALYST 3.7 and 3.8 Display Drivers All RADEON based graphics boards A noticeable drop in frame rate will occur when playing the game Half-Life: Counter-Strike. ATI Engineering has been advised of this issue and is investigating. To work around this issue, please download and install previous CATALYST 3.6 driver suite: " its very old and we never heard about this issue for a very long time. a reminder:CS 1.5 performence is great its just the new v1.6 suffering from horrible frame rates drops and bad performence. (this fact killing the Quake 2 OpenGL engine excuse) really hope to see better OpenGL performence in the next catalyst or update from Valve (someone gotta break the ice. and i hope its not gonna be CS: Source) p.s the latest catalyst OpenGL driver got improved a bit.. but still the older OpenGL 2.4-3.4 is faster and from my benchmarks: Radeon 9800XT is performing slower by almost 52% from "old" nVIDIA cards in Counter-Strike 1.6 Last edited by REGENERAT1ON; Jul 12, 2004 at 05:57 PM.

Jul 14, 2004, 06:26 PM	#130
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	Welcome to DH Can you supply some more details of your system specs Driver Cleaner Make sure to read the readme file for detailed instructions, Driver Cleaner is a powerful tool that if not used properly can cause undesired results. If you take the time to read the instructions it can be a life saver at times because it can remove many things besides your ATI drivers. I hope I didn't scare you away but I like to pass on the heads up to all users __________________

Jul 14, 2004, 07:28 PM	#132
FR4GGL3 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	i love the new 4.7 set but here it is - the old annoing question: when can i expect omegas set? __________________ [color=Green]Yes Sir, I Can Boogie[/color]

Jul 14, 2004, 07:32 PM	#133
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	FR4GGL3 reduce you signature size to 400x100 maximum please and thank you this is not the place to ask about Omega drivers release please make future posts to this thread __________________

Jul 10, 2004, 04:58 PM	#121
fleon DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	How about problems with mpg and avi files playing? In 4.5 and lower, my mobility 9700 worked just fine. Now it's choppy and basically unplayable unless I knock down the HW accelleration one notch. And even then it has problems w/ some in game video- like Rise of Nations intro....

Jul 13, 2004, 08:19 PM	#127
illegal-op DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	I love people who use developer 1 and then brag about getting over 100 ftps. Using developer 1 is just to brag that u get over 100 fps but when you are getting 500 fps and then get into a firefight and it drops to even just 200 fps, thats a 300 fps drop which will effect your game more than someone dropping from 100 fps to 40 fps. Set developer back to 0, do you get any fps drops or do you get a constant 99-100 fps no matter the map or game situation? The whole issue is not how high you can get your fps to, its the fact of the major drops in fps. I'm not saying this includes all ati users, just a vast majority of them. You would think the opengl driver would be able to handle a 4-5 year old game engine.

Jul 14, 2004, 05:59 PM	#129
LA_MERC_Mavrick DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	hi, this is my first post here, but i recently installed the omega drivers for my ati 9800pro, and i must say they make cs look awesome with temporalaa, 4xAA, and 8xAF, I still experience fps drops, but not near as often and usually it only happens when there are about 15 peeps on the screen all firing and throwing grenades...lol. I do have a problem that I cant seem to figure out. Since Cat 4.6, I have not been able to play any type of video files, my cpu usage goes up to 100% even trying to open media player or powerdvd, and i have to manually reboot my computer to close out of the programs. However, if I install the Cat 4.5 drivers, I can play video and dvds with no problems. Any ideas as to what may be causing this? As I was reading through this forum, i noticed someone mention a program called driver cleaner to remove unneccesary previous driver files, i figured i would completely uninstall the video drivers, run the program, then reinstall the drivers to see if that fixed my issue, but i would appreciate any other ideas.

Jul 14, 2004, 06:39 PM	#131
LA_MERC_Mavrick DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Sure, I appreciate the heads up - Ive got a: Retail ATI 9800pro 128mb w/Artic Cooler AMD 2400+ running the thermaltake volcano 11 DFI Lanparty NF2 Mobo Sound Blaster Audigy 2 2x512 mb DDR 2700 with memory heat sinks Pioneer 8x DVDRW+

Jul 14, 2004, 07:35 PM	#134
FR4GGL3 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	sorry for both!

Jul 14, 2004, 09:17 PM	#135
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	no problem dude thx for responding in a timely manner __________________

Jul 15, 2004, 06:08 PM	#136
franguinho Brazilian Fool Join Date: May 2002 Location: São Paulo Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 0	havent tried yet but ever since 4.3 ive been wary to try new versions as they usually did more harm than good __________________ The Aliens mostly come out at night... mostly...

Jul 16, 2004, 04:01 PM	#137
nayeri DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Good performance Catalyst 4.7 is better than other version. __________________ Have a good time!

Jul 23, 2004, 08:55 PM	#138
deekey777 Grünschnabel Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Good Old Germany Posts: 285 Rep Power: 0	New CAT is on its way... __________________ I know, my english is terrible.

Jul 23, 2004, 09:06 PM	#139
Rosco[CoF] HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 158 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Please let these be the golden OpenGL drivers!

Aug 8, 2004, 01:57 AM	#140
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 70 System Specs	Sorry to bump an old thread but I was wondering if anyone has noticed problems with Halo and the 4.7 cats? Everything's fine until I get to the Halo menu and everything starts flashing. Thx Edit- Nevermind, its SP2 that breaks halo Last edited by dipstick; Aug 9, 2004 at 03:19 AM.