3Dmark 03 Game 3 Issue with Catalyst 4.7?

No_Style · Jul 8, 2004, 03:10 PM

Game 3 of 3DMark03.. I just noticed some sort of pixelated outlining around the girl..and her sword. All the other tests run fine.

In some scenes it's a black pixelated outline while her close up she's rendered fine.

Everything else seems to run fine as well including FarCry. It also appears to be only my 9800 PRO (Which is recognized as an XT) and not my bro's 9500 PRO.

P.S - This was mentioned in the Cat 4.7 Thread, but I might be too buried.

jam_mango · Jul 8, 2004, 04:32 PM

Are you running a 9800xt by any chance (or flashed pro)

No_Style · Jul 8, 2004, 05:25 PM

It came recognized as a 9800XT. It's the MSI RX9800 which is a 9800 PRO with a R360 core. I did not do any BIOS flashes of any sort to it.

Zardon · Jul 8, 2004, 05:34 PM

The 9800XT I have here is fine. why dont you try reflashing back to the pro bios just for a test.

EDIT: just read it came already pre flashed.......

No_Style · Jul 8, 2004, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
The 9800XT I have here is fine. why dont you try reflashing back to the pro bios just for a test.

EDIT: just read it came already pre flashed.......

Hmmm... I'm thinking it could be the timings adjustments I did..but that doesn't explain why every other test ran fine and my games running fine.

Zardon · Jul 8, 2004, 05:40 PM

can you take a screenshot of it? id like to see this. if you can send me a BMP file zipped. ill zoom into it with photoshop and compare... thanks.

No_Style · Jul 8, 2004, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
can you take a screenshot of it? id like to see this. if you can send me a BMP file zipped. ill zoom into it with photoshop and compare... thanks.

I'm trying Cat 4.6 right now. I'll see if it's driver related first.

I'll be glad to send one, but I'm embarrassed to ask how?

I've tried doing CTRL + print screen..but no good.

I guess I'll try FRAPS. Unless there's a hidden option somewhere for 3Dmark.

Zardon · Jul 8, 2004, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by No_Style
I'm trying Cat 4.6 right now. I'll see if it's driver related first.

I'll be glad to send one, but I'm embarrassed to ask how? I've tried doing CTRL + print screen..but no good. I guess I'll try FRAPS. Unless there's a hidden option somewhere for 3Dmark.

Fraps will do it yes, but I didnt have an issue getting a screengrab with just "print screen" then control v into an editing application, even paint. (then save as a BMP), zip it up and send it on over.

No_Style · Jul 8, 2004, 06:08 PM

Download here

Uploaded it for others to see as well.

I've confirmed this to be a 4.7 issue because 4.6 rendered it fine.

MindlessOath · Jul 8, 2004, 06:19 PM

why do people still try and use 3dmark? bah

Zardon · Jul 8, 2004, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by No_Style
Download here

Uploaded it for others to see as well.

I've confirmed this to be a 4.7 issue because 4.6 rendered it fine.

you are aware thats a link to FRAPS right not the image?

No_Style · Jul 8, 2004, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
you are aware thats a link to FRAPS right not the image?

It's a self extracting file called Fraps.exe, Z

Come now. I know better

Zardon · Jul 8, 2004, 07:03 PM

lol. you like to complicate the issue eh?

ill check it out now.

Zardon · Jul 8, 2004, 07:08 PM

ok lets get a consensus on this, anyone else seeing this in 3dmark03?

No_Style · Jul 8, 2004, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
lol. you like to complicate the issue eh? ill check it out now.

I was lazy!

I just right clicked and clicked the add to archive command.. it called it FRAPS.exe because it was in the fraps folder.

But I took several pictures for you.

Zardon · Jul 8, 2004, 08:28 PM

Display corruption may be noticed when running the Trolls Lair test 3 found in the 3DMark 2003 benchmark
The information in this article applies to the following configurations:
CATALYST 4.7
3D Mark 2003 - Game Test 3
When running the benchmark 3DMark 2003 - game test 3 "Trolls Lair", some dark triangles may be noticed.
ATI Engineering is aware of this issue and investigating. Any updates will appear on this page when they become available.
This issue is under investigation. There is no solution available at this time.
INFO-BASE# 4572

No_Style · Jul 8, 2004, 09:16 PM

Thanks Z.

Judas · Jul 9, 2004, 06:51 AM

To take a screenshot in 3Dmark 03 you must use (i'm pretty sure it's...) F12.... hitting printscreen doesn't work at all in the demo version... i've attempted this MANY times and pulled my hair out when i couldn't figure out WHY it wasn't doing it... BTW... almost likes like it's a transparent cutout sprite kind of image... interesting

MindlessOath · Jul 9, 2004, 07:06 AM

if i ever made my own moderated drivers for ATI ... i would dissable people from using 3dmark of any kind!

No_Style · Jul 9, 2004, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MindlessOath
if i ever made my own moderated drivers for ATI ... i would dissable people from using 3dmark of any kind!

3DMark isn't used in the same way by everbody. It can also be used to troubleshoot. I also use it for personal performance comparisons and a quick assessment of my system. Yes, some people go score crazy, but I'm way passed that. I was just running a stability run with 3DMark03 and I just happen to notice "bug". Stay tuned for my upcoming Benchmarking FAQ/Guide

WooOOooo~

Zardon · Jul 9, 2004, 03:13 PM

3dmark03 nature test is actually very good for testing GFX overclocking.

No_Style · Jul 9, 2004, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
3dmark03 nature test is actually very good for testing GFX overclocking.

Exactly. The more, I roam the forums.. the more I find the same questions are being asked or the same misconceptions are evident. Inspires me further to get this thing I'm working on done.

So, Z.. this game 3 bug doesn't appear on your BBA 9800XT? I wonder if other vendor cards have this issue or just completely random.

MindlessOath · Jul 9, 2004, 06:51 PM

ok, i would only enable the fil rate test to see the score, but i would let it run to troubleshoot i guess, but give random numbers as scores for everything else.

Kymera · Jul 10, 2004, 11:07 PM

Yes yes, I was having the exact same issue with my 9800XT (non flashed) and 4.7. Otherwise the drivers are fine. For now I'll go back to 4.6 until a hotfix or 4.8 comes out

apoch003 · Jul 11, 2004, 11:22 AM

This is an issue I brought up in the Cat thread as well. And I have an ATi 9800xt.
I'm glad they're aware of the problem though.

Rayder · Jul 11, 2004, 12:35 PM

...and in contrast......

I've heard many mention this issue (besides it just being in the Release Notes).

But I don't get this problem. I tried running it with all kinds of various graphics setting, it always looks fine to me....and I was LOOKING for the issue too. Hmmm.....

No_Style · Jul 11, 2004, 03:29 PM

To be precise R360 core related

Jul 8, 2004, 03:10 PM	#1
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	3Dmark 03 Game 3 Issue with Catalyst 4.7? Game 3 of 3DMark03.. I just noticed some sort of pixelated outlining around the girl..and her sword. All the other tests run fine. In some scenes it's a black pixelated outline while her close up she's rendered fine. Everything else seems to run fine as well including FarCry. It also appears to be only my 9800 PRO (Which is recognized as an XT) and not my bro's 9500 PRO. P.S - This was mentioned in the Cat 4.7 Thread, but I might be too buried. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here Last edited by No_Style; Jul 8, 2004 at 03:41 PM.

Jul 8, 2004, 05:25 PM	Thread Starter #3
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	I'm running an XT It came recognized as a 9800XT. It's the MSI RX9800 which is a 9800 PRO with a R360 core. I did not do any BIOS flashes of any sort to it. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Jul 8, 2004, 06:08 PM	Thread Starter #9
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Here you go. Download here Uploaded it for others to see as well. I've confirmed this to be a 4.7 issue because 4.6 rendered it fine. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Jul 8, 2004, 06:19 PM	#10
MindlessOath DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,121 Rep Power: 0	why do people still try and use 3dmark? bah __________________ ATI Radeon X800XT PE <---- LOOK UPDATED!! AMD Athlon 2Ghz, nforce2, 512mb ddr3500 LINKS U SHOULD KNOW!!!! DriverCleaner - use every time u install new drivers! ATI driver feedback - to report driver problems Tacticalcenter - my Gaming website and forums ATI 3rd party Optimized Driver Compairison

Jul 8, 2004, 09:16 PM	Thread Starter #17
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Ahhh Thanks Z. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Jul 8, 2004, 04:32 PM	#2
jam_mango DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Are you running a 9800xt by any chance (or flashed pro)

Jul 8, 2004, 05:34 PM	#4
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	The 9800XT I have here is fine. why dont you try reflashing back to the pro bios just for a test. EDIT: just read it came already pre flashed.......

Jul 8, 2004, 05:40 PM	#6
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	can you take a screenshot of it? id like to see this. if you can send me a BMP file zipped. ill zoom into it with photoshop and compare... thanks.

Jul 8, 2004, 07:03 PM	#13
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	lol. you like to complicate the issue eh? ill check it out now.

Jul 8, 2004, 07:08 PM	#14
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	ok lets get a consensus on this, anyone else seeing this in 3dmark03?

Jul 8, 2004, 08:28 PM	#16
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Display corruption may be noticed when running the Trolls Lair test 3 found in the 3DMark 2003 benchmark The information in this article applies to the following configurations: CATALYST 4.7 3D Mark 2003 - Game Test 3 When running the benchmark 3DMark 2003 - game test 3 "Trolls Lair", some dark triangles may be noticed. ATI Engineering is aware of this issue and investigating. Any updates will appear on this page when they become available. This issue is under investigation. There is no solution available at this time. INFO-BASE# 4572

Jul 9, 2004, 07:06 AM	#19
MindlessOath DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,121 Rep Power: 0	if i ever made my own moderated drivers for ATI ... i would dissable people from using 3dmark of any kind! __________________ ATI Radeon X800XT PE <---- LOOK UPDATED!! AMD Athlon 2Ghz, nforce2, 512mb ddr3500 LINKS U SHOULD KNOW!!!! DriverCleaner - use every time u install new drivers! ATI driver feedback - to report driver problems Tacticalcenter - my Gaming website and forums ATI 3rd party Optimized Driver Compairison

Jul 9, 2004, 03:13 PM	#21
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	3dmark03 nature test is actually very good for testing GFX overclocking.

Jul 9, 2004, 06:51 PM	#23
MindlessOath DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,121 Rep Power: 0	ok, i would only enable the fil rate test to see the score, but i would let it run to troubleshoot i guess, but give random numbers as scores for everything else. __________________ ATI Radeon X800XT PE <---- LOOK UPDATED!! AMD Athlon 2Ghz, nforce2, 512mb ddr3500 LINKS U SHOULD KNOW!!!! DriverCleaner - use every time u install new drivers! ATI driver feedback - to report driver problems Tacticalcenter - my Gaming website and forums ATI 3rd party Optimized Driver Compairison

Jul 10, 2004, 11:07 PM	#24
Kymera DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Yes yes, I was having the exact same issue with my 9800XT (non flashed) and 4.7. Otherwise the drivers are fine. For now I'll go back to 4.6 until a hotfix or 4.8 comes out

Jul 11, 2004, 11:22 AM	#25
apoch003 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: usa Posts: 214 Rep Power: 0	This is an issue I brought up in the Cat thread as well. And I have an ATi 9800xt. I'm glad they're aware of the problem though.

Jul 11, 2004, 12:35 PM	#26
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,161 Rep Power: 73	...and in contrast...... I've heard many mention this issue (besides it just being in the Release Notes). But I don't get this problem. I tried running it with all kinds of various graphics setting, it always looks fine to me....and I was LOOKING for the issue too. Hmmm.....

Jul 11, 2004, 03:29 PM	Thread Starter #27
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Seems to be an XT thing.. To be precise R360 core related __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here