Catalyst and Nforce drivers together not working

Doremifa · Aug 24, 2004, 02:42 AM

I had some stability problems when using Omega drivers, and uninstalled them and switched to newest Ati Catalyst 4.8. Also i updated my Nforce2 drivers to the current version, and then the system freezed at reboot with distorted screen when it tried to change the video mode.

I could log on with F8 and selecting VGA, and tried Radeon drivers 4.7 and 4.4 but they didn't work either.

I have installed both drivers without AV-software or firewall running.
All Ati or Omega stuff were removed from Control Panel's Add/Remove Progs before new installation attempts.

I also tried again removing the Nforce drivers and installing them again, and then the newest Radeon drivers.

Any ideas?

Doremifa · Aug 24, 2004, 02:45 AM

Oh, the system is with Club 9600 Pro, Epox 8RDA3+ and W2000.

pr0digal jenius · Aug 24, 2004, 02:51 AM

try running driver cleaner and wiping all nvidia and ati software off your machine....then install the nforce...reboot...then the catalyst

MindlessOath · Aug 24, 2004, 05:36 AM

i have no problem with nforce2 and ati cards. its probably some settings u have enabled that should be dissabled?

Falstaff · Aug 24, 2004, 06:32 AM

I am not pooping on the combo, PM Drakensteakn, he had similiar probs too....touch choice man..

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 24, 2004, 03:15 PM

what nforce drivers are you useing? 5.03?

Doremifa · Aug 25, 2004, 12:04 AM

NForce Unified driver 4.27, it should be the newest. For W2000 that is.

Driver Cleaner, dl'd that and going to try. Wish me luck.

Thanks for the tip.

Doremifa · Aug 25, 2004, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallang_jeff

I am not pooping on the combo, PM Drakensteakn, he had similiar probs too....touch choice man..

Couldn't find posts by a user with that nick, or very close that I also tried. Do you remember the nick right? Or maybe he has left the forum.

Doremifa · Aug 25, 2004, 03:31 AM

I tried Cab Cleaner and Driver Cleaner, but they didn't help. (For those that dont know, they are for removing display drivers completely from the system) The result was just the same. So I think the problem is probably with the nForce drivers.

I bought my Epox MB at the winter, February I think, and haven't updated the BIOS. I haven't touched too many BIOS settings, so maybe I have to look at them too.

I installed nForce drivers that came with the Epox CD, and have used them since. Untill now when I updated both nForce drivers and ATI Catalyst drivers instead of Omega drivers.

And I just got Radeon about month ago, and installed Omega drivers then.

So maybe I have to go back to the original nForce drivers or some other older than the newest version.

Or maybe I have to update the BIOS, but I'm afraid it might cause more problems, and then isolating them could be even harder.

What do you think? Are the Omega drivers more unstable than ATI Catalyst ones?

All the ideas to solve the problems very wellcome.

CynicalSaint · Aug 25, 2004, 03:48 AM

I had similar problems with my nForce2 mobo with my Radeon 9500. I had to revert my desktop refresh rate to 60Hz. It seems the new Catalysts fix the WindowsXP refresh rate bug, so the desktop is really whatever you set it to.

However, I'm not so sure if this is the fix. I don't have any stability problems anymore, though.

Doremifa · Aug 26, 2004, 05:03 AM

Okay, I tried to go back to the original combo of nForce drivers 2.03 and those Omega drivers, but again with the same result.

So I have theory of what happened.

What caused this problem, was when I uninstalled Omega drivers, and installed the new Ati Catalyst drivers, and those worked then.

Then I DID NOT uninstall the old nForce 2.03 drivers, but installed the newest nForce drivers on them. That was probably not a very good idea! After that the system didn't boot (it did, but only in safe mode or VGA mode through the F8) but freezed or crashed and rebooted.

A few uninstalling cycles later (both the nForce and Radeon drivers, using the Cab Cleaner and Driver Cleaner with the latter) it seems to me that:

Uninstalling the nForce drivers doesn't work properly. Something is left behind, either files or stuff in registry or maybe in cab files. And because of that, new install of drivers doesn't go through like it should. And that makes the Radeon drivers fail. Driver Cleaner for those nForce drivers would be very usefull.

So, if you have advice how to clean files and registry and so on after uninstalling again those nForce drivers, let me know.

I'm also interested if you know a forum where would be deep knowledge of those nForce drivers.

Shuflie · Aug 26, 2004, 06:12 AM

http://www.nforcershq.com/

Geminiwave · Aug 27, 2004, 09:30 AM

I got an nForce2 board and a 9800pro and things seem great. Try installing a diff version of the nforce2 drivers.

UZ7 · Aug 27, 2004, 01:33 PM

Yeah, sometimes newer isnt always the best... i dont really like the new version anyway so i stick with my 3.14 Remix :P

Aug 24, 2004, 02:42 AM	#1
Doremifa DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Catalyst and Nforce drivers together not working I had some stability problems when using Omega drivers, and uninstalled them and switched to newest Ati Catalyst 4.8. Also i updated my Nforce2 drivers to the current version, and then the system freezed at reboot with distorted screen when it tried to change the video mode. I could log on with F8 and selecting VGA, and tried Radeon drivers 4.7 and 4.4 but they didn't work either. I have installed both drivers without AV-software or firewall running. All Ati or Omega stuff were removed from Control Panel's Add/Remove Progs before new installation attempts. I also tried again removing the Nforce drivers and installing them again, and then the newest Radeon drivers. Any ideas?

Aug 24, 2004, 05:36 AM	#4
MindlessOath DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,121 Rep Power: 0	i have no problem with nforce2 and ati cards. its probably some settings u have enabled that should be dissabled? __________________ ATI Radeon X800XT PE <---- LOOK UPDATED!! AMD Athlon 2Ghz, nforce2, 512mb ddr3500 LINKS U SHOULD KNOW!!!! DriverCleaner - use every time u install new drivers! ATI driver feedback - to report driver problems Tacticalcenter - my Gaming website and forums ATI 3rd party Optimized Driver Compairison

Aug 24, 2004, 06:32 AM	#5
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	I am not pooping on the combo, PM Drakensteakn, he had similiar probs too....touch choice man.. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Aug 24, 2004, 03:15 PM	#6
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	what nforce drivers are you useing? 5.03? __________________

Aug 25, 2004, 03:48 AM	#10
CynicalSaint DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	I had similar problems with my nForce2 mobo with my Radeon 9500. I had to revert my desktop refresh rate to 60Hz. It seems the new Catalysts fix the WindowsXP refresh rate bug, so the desktop is really whatever you set it to. However, I'm not so sure if this is the fix. I don't have any stability problems anymore, though. __________________ -CynicalSaint \| AMD-XP 2400+ 166FSB \| EPoX 8RDA+ nForce2 \| Crucial DDR333 512MB \| \| Sapphire Radeon 9500-9700 128MB \| Seagate Barracuda IV 40GB \| 3DMark03: 3781

Aug 24, 2004, 02:45 AM	Thread Starter #2
Doremifa DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Oh, the system is with Club 9600 Pro, Epox 8RDA3+ and W2000.

Aug 24, 2004, 02:51 AM	#3
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	try running driver cleaner and wiping all nvidia and ati software off your machine....then install the nforce...reboot...then the catalyst

Aug 25, 2004, 12:04 AM	Thread Starter #7
Doremifa DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	NForce Unified driver 4.27, it should be the newest. For W2000 that is. Driver Cleaner, dl'd that and going to try. Wish me luck. Thanks for the tip.

Aug 25, 2004, 03:31 AM	Thread Starter #9
Doremifa DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	I tried Cab Cleaner and Driver Cleaner, but they didn't help. (For those that dont know, they are for removing display drivers completely from the system) The result was just the same. So I think the problem is probably with the nForce drivers. I bought my Epox MB at the winter, February I think, and haven't updated the BIOS. I haven't touched too many BIOS settings, so maybe I have to look at them too. I installed nForce drivers that came with the Epox CD, and have used them since. Untill now when I updated both nForce drivers and ATI Catalyst drivers instead of Omega drivers. And I just got Radeon about month ago, and installed Omega drivers then. So maybe I have to go back to the original nForce drivers or some other older than the newest version. Or maybe I have to update the BIOS, but I'm afraid it might cause more problems, and then isolating them could be even harder. What do you think? Are the Omega drivers more unstable than ATI Catalyst ones? All the ideas to solve the problems very wellcome.

Aug 26, 2004, 05:03 AM	Thread Starter #11
Doremifa DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Okay, I tried to go back to the original combo of nForce drivers 2.03 and those Omega drivers, but again with the same result. So I have theory of what happened. What caused this problem, was when I uninstalled Omega drivers, and installed the new Ati Catalyst drivers, and those worked then. Then I DID NOT uninstall the old nForce 2.03 drivers, but installed the newest nForce drivers on them. That was probably not a very good idea! After that the system didn't boot (it did, but only in safe mode or VGA mode through the F8) but freezed or crashed and rebooted. A few uninstalling cycles later (both the nForce and Radeon drivers, using the Cab Cleaner and Driver Cleaner with the latter) it seems to me that: Uninstalling the nForce drivers doesn't work properly. Something is left behind, either files or stuff in registry or maybe in cab files. And because of that, new install of drivers doesn't go through like it should. And that makes the Radeon drivers fail. Driver Cleaner for those nForce drivers would be very usefull. So, if you have advice how to clean files and registry and so on after uninstalling again those nForce drivers, let me know. I'm also interested if you know a forum where would be deep knowledge of those nForce drivers.

Aug 26, 2004, 06:12 AM	#12
Shuflie DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Belfast Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	http://www.nforcershq.com/

Aug 27, 2004, 09:30 AM	#13
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	I got an nForce2 board and a 9800pro and things seem great. Try installing a diff version of the nforce2 drivers. __________________

Aug 27, 2004, 01:33 PM	#14
UZ7 7th's Specialist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 162 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, sometimes newer isnt always the best... i dont really like the new version anyway so i stick with my 3.14 Remix :P __________________ Cold and Silent Blue. Seven and the Angel.