Catalyst Control Centre Preview and Interview

***Veridian3*** · Sep 2, 2004, 12:28 PM

"Performance, features, stability and quality, Catalyst 3.8 has them all. And more importantly it has them all in abundance...

...thats what we said back in October 2003 when ATI released their updated driver to the world. That driver included revolutionary features like Overdrive and VPU Recover. 3.8 could really be classed as the first real result of the Catalyst program which took ATI's drivers from mediocre to world class. Since 3.8 not much has changed on the surface of the driver or control panel, a few tweaks here, some performace increases and bugfixes there however noting out of the ordinary. Today that all changes as ATI release Catalyst 4.9 and Catalyst Control Centre."

Read all about ATI's excellent new control panel here.

Also included in the article is an exclusive Catalyst Control Centre interview with ATI's Software Product Manager, Andrew Dodd. Here's a snippet:

"Who came up with the original concept of CCC?

[Andrew Dodd] The CATALYST Control Center Architect Wayne Louie, came up with the concept of a stand-alone, totally customizable user interface a couple years ago. Once the original Idea was conceived we brain-stormed a huge number of ideas that we knew would make the new user interface a totally incredible product. "

Zardon · Sep 2, 2004, 12:35 PM

looks sexy guys, eh?

***craig5320*** · Sep 2, 2004, 12:36 PM

Very nice indeed. Nice addition being able to see the 3D preview of changes.

mkk · Sep 2, 2004, 12:41 PM

Sure seems nice, but I'll reserve my stern judgement until I've thoroughly tried those profiles out.

Link to the article in question: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/articles/CCC/

Drakor · Sep 2, 2004, 12:46 PM

Indeed, it looks very nice

But one thing still concerns me... did ATi include more complex refresh rates configuration tool at last?
It was always weak side of the Catalyst drivers

Is it better now?

patje · Sep 2, 2004, 12:46 PM

Looks very very nice... But one thing seems to be missing or i'm not reading correctly. A release date or link ? or is due today? i'm confused in all the exitement!

~~HawK~~ · Sep 2, 2004, 12:49 PM

ITs already on the driver download page @ ATI

patje · Sep 2, 2004, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawK

ITs already on the driver download page @ ATI

doh, I've overlooked it, thanks for clearing up Hawk

Danhill · Sep 2, 2004, 12:50 PM

Nice article and good job ATI, can't wait to download the new control panel.

Drakor · Sep 2, 2004, 12:59 PM

Sorry for making new post but in the Release Notes it says:

Quote:

The ATI CATALYST™ CONTROL CENTER detects the monitor's capabilities for different display modes and refresh rates. The ATI CATALYST™ CONTROL CENTER protects the user from inadvertently selecting a refresh rate and display resolution that is incompatible with the display device connected to their graphic card.

So does it mean that if my monitor supports for example 1024x768 resolution at 100Hz and 1280x1024 at 85Hz the new CCC will set these refresh rates automatically? Am I correct?

Danhill · Sep 2, 2004, 01:01 PM

It is neccesary to unistal 4.8 before installing the CCC??

Sparxxx · Sep 2, 2004, 01:11 PM

When will it be released? I know that today but when today?

Will Ati Control Center released with a new driver set or not?

Sparxxx · Sep 2, 2004, 01:14 PM

http://www.ati.com/products/catalyst...ter/index.html
Download it there

ViRuS2k · Sep 2, 2004, 01:22 PM

Today that all changes as ATI release Catalyst 4.9 and Catalyst Control Centre.

thats what it says in the interview so today is the day then

cant wait to test em out.

LeanWolf · Sep 2, 2004, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drakor

So does it mean that if my monitor supports for example 1024x768 resolution at 100Hz and 1280x1024 at 85Hz the new CCC will set these refresh rates automatically? Am I correct?

no, it just won't let you select high refresh rates at high resolutions, the ones your monitor can't handle
so for your example if you were in 1024x768@100Hz and switched to 1280x1024, it would reduce the refresh rate to 85Hz

Sparxxx · Sep 2, 2004, 01:27 PM

I downloaded the control center from here:
http://www.ati.com/products/catalyst...ter/index.html
Is this the one? or is it just a beta?

WisMerHill · Sep 2, 2004, 01:29 PM

I hope it also provides a better option for TV-out and clone modes. we'll see it when i come home. It sure looks a lot better at first hand.

BWX · Sep 2, 2004, 01:32 PM

WTF? Usually I start my PC and there is about 106mb of system ram in use, now after the installation of these drivers 180MB of ram is used!?!?!? WTH? That is ridiculous.

In the system manager/ processes I see TWO "cli.exe"'s running, one using 45,920kb, the other using 36,332kb. This is ridiculous. I sure hope I can turn this outrageous waste of recourses off permanently and still be able to use the drivers. When I'm playing D3 (unlikely) or Farcry, (much more likely) and I'm using a huge pagefile, I don't want the CATs wasting any more of my valuable 1 gig system ram than absolutely necessary...

-going to investigate.....

Drakor · Sep 2, 2004, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeanWolf

no, it just won't let you select high refresh rates at high resolutions, the ones your monitor can't handle
so for your example if you were in 1024x768@100Hz and switched to 1280x1024, it would reduce the refresh rate to 85Hz

Yes, I understand it. However, I wondered if drivers will be intelligent enough to set max supported refresh rates at each resolution and won't force me to stick at 75Hz or lower.

bug77 · Sep 2, 2004, 01:39 PM

Damn. No support for DX8 cards??? This really sucks.

mkk · Sep 2, 2004, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWX

In the system manager/ processes I see TWO "cli.exe"'s running, one using 45,920kb, the other using 36,332kb. This is ridiculous. I sure hope I can turn this outrageous waste of recourses off permanently and still be able to use the drivers. When I'm playing D3 (unlikely) or Farcry, (much more likely) and I'm using a huge pagefile, I don't want the CATs wasting any more of my valuable 1 gig system ram than absolutely necessary...

Though it seems here that those processes quickly give back far most of the RAM they use while initialising, it's still certainly not a pretty solution. For what I've seen using this so far I'm pretty disappointed, but I'll give it another chance when I get back home later in the weekend.

BWX · Sep 2, 2004, 01:47 PM

Great, I stop those system hogging processes and I cannot adjust my video card settings at all- I hope there is a driver version without this "control center"...

If not, Nvidia here I come.

I hate extra crap running on my PC. The skin selector doesn't work btw, there is no "apply button"- when I select a new skin it doesn't change..

Maybe I need more services running than I have? Please tell me I don't need to have that ASP.net thing running, I deleted that account a long time ago..

Sparxxx · Sep 2, 2004, 01:49 PM

I don't have ASP account either.Skin selector works.I use "steel" one.
I just deleted the 2 files that runs at start-up (with spy sweepe) and i still can change card settings

BWX · Sep 2, 2004, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkk

Though it seems here that those processes quickly give back far most of the RAM they use while initialising, it's still certainly not a pretty solution. For what I've seen using this so far I'm pretty disappointed, but I'll give it another chance when I get back home later in the weekend.

Not here- they use an extra 75MB of system ram ALL THE TIME here- unacceptable, just plain ridiculous. When I stop the process I have no control over the driver. I guess I need to reboot to get it back?

ATI needs to make a list of services that needs to be running in order to make this "control center" work, because many of the functions such as the skin changer, is not working..

I always turn off ATI hotkey poller because I don't use hotkeys, does that service need to be running for this thing to work? What about Smartgart? Does that need to be set to "auto" for these drivers to work? I always disable that too because it is pointless to have it start w/ windows every single time I reboot.

Please ATI, make a list of services needed to run this software. I turn off everything not needed.

BWX · Sep 2, 2004, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparxxx

I don't have ASP account either.Skin selector works.I use "steel" one.
I just deleted the 2 files that runs at start-up (with spy sweepe) and i still can change card settings

You mean cli.exe is NOT running and the control panel still works? WTH?

Sparxxx · Sep 2, 2004, 01:56 PM

Actually it did worked buit i rebooted and now it's not working anymore.ATI this is unacceptable :P
To much resources to waste.

ViRuS2k · Sep 2, 2004, 02:02 PM

well i dont know if this is a proper release lol
and BMX chill OUT your freaking lol

http://www.ati.com/products/catalyst...ter/index.html

Now is this real or what :? dont know where 4.9 or new CC is ?

i thought the new CP was getting released with 4.9 drivers ? well the link above is the CP and 4.8 drivers.

someone clear things up for us all please.

***Veridian3*** · Sep 2, 2004, 02:03 PM

BWX,

The memory that is occupied by the CATALYST Control Center will be released when other applications require more memory.

There is more than one cli.exe because CCC has been separated into different components (a unique instance of CLI.exe per component) because it allows ATI to tune the characteristics of the process instance to the type of component. One component is called the "Runtime", which acts as a server to all of the other client components. The two other client components are the "User-Interface" and the "System Tray". The client "CLI.exe"s are tuned differently to enhance performance; the "User-Interface" client is optimized to run for short periods of time, whereas the "System Tray" client is designed to run for long periods of time. The "preview.exe" file (used for the 3D preview) is a based on the Win32 process (whereas the rest of the CATALYST Control Center is based on the .NET framework), and is strictly an OpenGL application. Note that the preview "preview.exe" process is used only when the "User-Interface" is operating, and is ended as soon as the CATALYST Control Center is closed.

On the memory front CCC is far more advanced than the old control panel and as a result it requires more system memory. It should also be noted that when the CATALYST Control Center loads and initializes, the operating system allocates memory as needed. However, since the it is built using the Microsoft .NET Framework, it appears to consume more memory during initialization than it actually uses during normal runtime operation. Thus, after a few moments, the operating system releases most of the initial memory allocation, leaving only the core amount needed for normal operation.

(The 3D preview is an OpenGL application that uses a number of textures and shaders and requires approximately 20 MB of RAM while it is running as soon as the CATALYST Control Center is closed the preview stops running, and releases the occupied RAM.)

And remember you can always grab the SDK and create your own version with only the features you need...cutting down on resource use.

BWX · Sep 2, 2004, 02:09 PM

Well I looked and there is all these logs after trying to use the control ceter after shutting those processes off- I think some of them happened before I shut the process off because asp.net is not running.

Why is it trying to connect to remote server???

What a mess... I hope ATI releases a "stripped down" version of the current drivers (like the 4.8's and before) so we can turn all this crap off and still have updated drivers.

[COLOR=Lime]

Event Type: Information
Event Source: ACEEventLogSource
Event Category: None
Event ID: 0
Date: 9/2/2004
Time: 7:43:02 am
User: N/A
Computer: -
Description:
9/2/2004 7:43:02 am --- [Domain]: CLI.exe --- [Type]: Error --- [Assembly]: CLI, Version=1.0.1676.38182, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=90ba9c70f846762e --- [Namespace]: ATI.ACE.CLI.EXE.CLI --- [Method]: Main --- [Message]: Dashboard cannot start - ACE Runtime not detected

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Event Type: Information
Event Source: ACEEventLogSource
Event Category: None
Event ID: 0
Date: 9/2/2004
Time: 7:42:46 am
User: N/A
Computer: -
Description:
9/2/2004 7:42:46 am --- [Domain]: cli.exe --- [Type]: Exception --- [Assembly]: LOG.Foundation.Service, Version=1.0.1676.38181, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken= xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --- [Namespace]: ATI.ACE.LOG.Foundation.Service.Service --- [Method]: TrimThread --- [Message]: Exception: Process performance counter is disabled, so the requested operation cannot be performed.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Event Type: Information
Event Source: ACEEventLogSource
Event Category: None
Event ID: 0
Date: 9/2/2004
Time: 7:42:35 am
User: N/A
Computer: -
Description:
9/2/2004 7:42:35 am --- [Domain]: RT_GraphicsCaste.Caste --- [Type]: Exception --- [Assembly]: CLI.Component.Runtime.Shared, Version=1.0.1676.38168, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken= xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --- [Namespace]: ATI.ACE.CLI.Component.Runtime.Shared.RTCastes --- [Method]: myValueEndInvoke --- [Message]: Exception <ATI.ACE.CLI.Foundation.NotifyCasteValueChanges> : The underlying connection was closed: Unable to connect to the remote server.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.[/COLOR]

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***Veridian3*** · Sep 2, 2004, 02:11 PM

Network connections are opened because CCC's run-time (which could include 3rd party plug-ins), acts as the server component and provides the interface between the display driver and the client component, also known as the CATALYST Control Center user-interface (which could be ATI only, 3rd party only, or a combination of both). This extremely flexible architecture requires the run-time and server components of the CATALYST Control Center to communicate with one another via network messages. It is very important to note that all CATALYST Control Center communications that use the .NET channels are "localhost" only, which means there is absolutely no connection to outside non-local systems. Unfortunately users may see warnings from various firewalls, as most firewall software is unable to differentiate between "localhost" and "outside" connections.

Sep 2, 2004, 12:28 PM	#1
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 4,830 Rep Power: 174	Catalyst Control Centre Preview and Interview "Performance, features, stability and quality, Catalyst 3.8 has them all. And more importantly it has them all in abundance... ...thats what we said back in October 2003 when ATI released their updated driver to the world. That driver included revolutionary features like Overdrive and VPU Recover. 3.8 could really be classed as the first real result of the Catalyst program which took ATI's drivers from mediocre to world class. Since 3.8 not much has changed on the surface of the driver or control panel, a few tweaks here, some performace increases and bugfixes there however noting out of the ordinary. Today that all changes as ATI release Catalyst 4.9 and Catalyst Control Centre." Read all about ATI's excellent new control panel here. Also included in the article is an exclusive Catalyst Control Centre interview with ATI's Software Product Manager, Andrew Dodd. Here's a snippet: "Who came up with the original concept of CCC? [Andrew Dodd] The CATALYST Control Center Architect Wayne Louie, came up with the concept of a stand-alone, totally customizable user interface a couple years ago. Once the original Idea was conceived we brain-stormed a huge number of ideas that we knew would make the new user interface a totally incredible product. "

Sep 2, 2004, 12:36 PM	#3
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,279 Rep Power: 428 System Specs	Very nice indeed. Nice addition being able to see the 3D preview of changes. __________________

Sep 2, 2004, 12:46 PM	#6
patje Former Mobility Modman Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Belgium / Antwerp Posts: 1,475 Rep Power: 64	Looks very very nice... But one thing seems to be missing or i'm not reading correctly. A release date or link ? or is due today? i'm confused in all the exitement! __________________

Sep 2, 2004, 12:50 PM	#9
Danhill DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 0	Nice article and good job ATI, can't wait to download the new control panel. __________________ MOBO: [color=white]ASUS A8N-SLI Premium[/color] CPU: AMD 64 3200+ (Venice) @ 2,50 Ghz MEM: 2 x 512 DDR 466, VGA: 2 x 6600 GT in SLI, HDD1: WD Raptor HDD2: Maxtor Diamond Plus 9, Case: Antec Plus View 1080, PSU: ThermalTake PurePower 500W, MX 1000, Dell 2001 FP, Aud. 2 SZ

Sep 2, 2004, 01:01 PM	#11
Danhill DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 0	It is neccesary to unistal 4.8 before installing the CCC?? __________________ MOBO: [color=white]ASUS A8N-SLI Premium[/color] CPU: AMD 64 3200+ (Venice) @ 2,50 Ghz MEM: 2 x 512 DDR 466, VGA: 2 x 6600 GT in SLI, HDD1: WD Raptor HDD2: Maxtor Diamond Plus 9, Case: Antec Plus View 1080, PSU: ThermalTake PurePower 500W, MX 1000, Dell 2001 FP, Aud. 2 SZ

Sep 2, 2004, 12:35 PM	#2
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	looks sexy guys, eh?

Sep 2, 2004, 12:41 PM	#4
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,376 Rep Power: 120 System Specs	Sure seems nice, but I'll reserve my stern judgement until I've thoroughly tried those profiles out. Link to the article in question: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/articles/CCC/

Sep 2, 2004, 12:46 PM	#5
Drakor DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	Indeed, it looks very nice But one thing still concerns me... did ATi include more complex refresh rates configuration tool at last? It was always weak side of the Catalyst drivers Is it better now?

Sep 2, 2004, 12:49 PM	#7
~~HawK~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,092 Rep Power: 0	ITs already on the driver download page @ ATI

Sep 2, 2004, 01:11 PM	#12
Sparxxx DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	When will it be released? I know that today but when today? Will Ati Control Center released with a new driver set or not? __________________ Lotto: A Tax On People Who Are Bad At Math...

Sep 2, 2004, 01:14 PM	#13
Sparxxx DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	http://www.ati.com/products/catalyst...ter/index.html Download it there __________________ Lotto: A Tax On People Who Are Bad At Math...

Sep 2, 2004, 01:22 PM	#14
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	Today that all changes as ATI release Catalyst 4.9 and Catalyst Control Centre. thats what it says in the interview so today is the day then cant wait to test em out.

Sep 2, 2004, 01:27 PM	#16
Sparxxx DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	I downloaded the control center from here: http://www.ati.com/products/catalyst...ter/index.html Is this the one? or is it just a beta? __________________ Lotto: A Tax On People Who Are Bad At Math...

Sep 2, 2004, 01:29 PM	#17
WisMerHill DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 468 Rep Power: 0	I hope it also provides a better option for TV-out and clone modes. we'll see it when i come home. It sure looks a lot better at first hand. __________________ [color=sandybrown][color=white] [/color] [color=white][color=white]M[/color][color=white]y Computer[/color]: [/color][color=white]3DMark2001[/color][color=white] - [/color][color=white]3Dmark2003[/color][color=white] - [/color][color=white]3DMark200[/color][color=white]5[/color][color=white] - [/color][color=white]PCMark2004[/color][/color]

Sep 2, 2004, 01:32 PM	#18
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	WTF? Usually I start my PC and there is about 106mb of system ram in use, now after the installation of these drivers 180MB of ram is used!?!?!? WTH? That is ridiculous. In the system manager/ processes I see TWO "cli.exe"'s running, one using 45,920kb, the other using 36,332kb. This is ridiculous. I sure hope I can turn this outrageous waste of recourses off permanently and still be able to use the drivers. When I'm playing D3 (unlikely) or Farcry, (much more likely) and I'm using a huge pagefile, I don't want the CATs wasting any more of my valuable 1 gig system ram than absolutely necessary... -going to investigate..... __________________

Sep 2, 2004, 01:39 PM	#20
bug77 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: around Posts: 792 Rep Power: 0	Damn. No support for DX8 cards??? This really sucks.

Sep 2, 2004, 01:47 PM	#22
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Great, I stop those system hogging processes and I cannot adjust my video card settings at all- I hope there is a driver version without this "control center"... If not, Nvidia here I come. I hate extra crap running on my PC. The skin selector doesn't work btw, there is no "apply button"- when I select a new skin it doesn't change.. Maybe I need more services running than I have? Please tell me I don't need to have that ASP.net thing running, I deleted that account a long time ago.. __________________

Sep 2, 2004, 01:49 PM	#23
Sparxxx DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	I don't have ASP account either.Skin selector works.I use "steel" one. I just deleted the 2 files that runs at start-up (with spy sweepe) and i still can change card settings __________________ Lotto: A Tax On People Who Are Bad At Math...

Sep 2, 2004, 01:56 PM	#26
Sparxxx DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	Actually it did worked buit i rebooted and now it's not working anymore.ATI this is unacceptable :P To much resources to waste. __________________ Lotto: A Tax On People Who Are Bad At Math...

Sep 2, 2004, 02:02 PM	#27
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	well i dont know if this is a proper release lol and BMX chill OUT your freaking lol http://www.ati.com/products/catalyst...ter/index.html Now is this real or what :? dont know where 4.9 or new CC is ? i thought the new CP was getting released with 4.9 drivers ? well the link above is the CP and 4.8 drivers. someone clear things up for us all please. Last edited by ViRuS2k; Sep 2, 2004 at 02:09 PM.

Sep 2, 2004, 02:03 PM	Thread Starter #28
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 4,830 Rep Power: 174	BWX, The memory that is occupied by the CATALYST Control Center will be released when other applications require more memory. There is more than one cli.exe because CCC has been separated into different components (a unique instance of CLI.exe per component) because it allows ATI to tune the characteristics of the process instance to the type of component. One component is called the "Runtime", which acts as a server to all of the other client components. The two other client components are the "User-Interface" and the "System Tray". The client "CLI.exe"s are tuned differently to enhance performance; the "User-Interface" client is optimized to run for short periods of time, whereas the "System Tray" client is designed to run for long periods of time. The "preview.exe" file (used for the 3D preview) is a based on the Win32 process (whereas the rest of the CATALYST Control Center is based on the .NET framework), and is strictly an OpenGL application. Note that the preview "preview.exe" process is used only when the "User-Interface" is operating, and is ended as soon as the CATALYST Control Center is closed. On the memory front CCC is far more advanced than the old control panel and as a result it requires more system memory. It should also be noted that when the CATALYST Control Center loads and initializes, the operating system allocates memory as needed. However, since the it is built using the Microsoft .NET Framework, it appears to consume more memory during initialization than it actually uses during normal runtime operation. Thus, after a few moments, the operating system releases most of the initial memory allocation, leaving only the core amount needed for normal operation. (The 3D preview is an OpenGL application that uses a number of textures and shaders and requires approximately 20 MB of RAM while it is running as soon as the CATALYST Control Center is closed the preview stops running, and releases the occupied RAM.) And remember you can always grab the SDK and create your own version with only the features you need...cutting down on resource use.

Sep 2, 2004, 02:09 PM	#29
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Well I looked and there is all these logs after trying to use the control ceter after shutting those processes off- I think some of them happened before I shut the process off because asp.net is not running. Why is it trying to connect to remote server??? What a mess... I hope ATI releases a "stripped down" version of the current drivers (like the 4.8's and before) so we can turn all this crap off and still have updated drivers. [COLOR=Lime] Event Type: Information Event Source: ACEEventLogSource Event Category: None Event ID: 0 Date: 9/2/2004 Time: 7:43:02 am User: N/A Computer: - Description: 9/2/2004 7:43:02 am --- [Domain]: CLI.exe --- [Type]: Error --- [Assembly]: CLI, Version=1.0.1676.38182, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=90ba9c70f846762e --- [Namespace]: ATI.ACE.CLI.EXE.CLI --- [Method]: Main --- [Message]: Dashboard cannot start - ACE Runtime not detected For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. Event Type: Information Event Source: ACEEventLogSource Event Category: None Event ID: 0 Date: 9/2/2004 Time: 7:42:46 am User: N/A Computer: - Description: 9/2/2004 7:42:46 am --- [Domain]: cli.exe --- [Type]: Exception --- [Assembly]: LOG.Foundation.Service, Version=1.0.1676.38181, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken= xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --- [Namespace]: ATI.ACE.LOG.Foundation.Service.Service --- [Method]: TrimThread --- [Message]: Exception: Process performance counter is disabled, so the requested operation cannot be performed. For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. Event Type: Information Event Source: ACEEventLogSource Event Category: None Event ID: 0 Date: 9/2/2004 Time: 7:42:35 am User: N/A Computer: - Description: 9/2/2004 7:42:35 am --- [Domain]: RT_GraphicsCaste.Caste --- [Type]: Exception --- [Assembly]: CLI.Component.Runtime.Shared, Version=1.0.1676.38168, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken= xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --- [Namespace]: ATI.ACE.CLI.Component.Runtime.Shared.RTCastes --- [Method]: myValueEndInvoke --- [Message]: Exception <ATI.ACE.CLI.Foundation.NotifyCasteValueChanges> : The underlying connection was closed: Unable to connect to the remote server. For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.[/COLOR] edit- changed text size __________________ Last edited by BWX; Sep 2, 2004 at 02:22 PM.

Sep 2, 2004, 02:11 PM	Thread Starter #30
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 4,830 Rep Power: 174	Network connections are opened because CCC's run-time (which could include 3rd party plug-ins), acts as the server component and provides the interface between the display driver and the client component, also known as the CATALYST Control Center user-interface (which could be ATI only, 3rd party only, or a combination of both). This extremely flexible architecture requires the run-time and server components of the CATALYST Control Center to communicate with one another via network messages. It is very important to note that all CATALYST Control Center communications that use the .NET channels are "localhost" only, which means there is absolutely no connection to outside non-local systems. Unfortunately users may see warnings from various firewalls, as most firewall software is unable to differentiate between "localhost" and "outside" connections.