CATALYST 4.9 Available

UberLord · Sep 10, 2004, 12:40 AM

I have SP2 installed - and I've just installed these drivers.

Upon rebooting and logging in I was greeted with a black screen.
I waited 10 mins before rebooting.

Upon 2nd reboot it worked as before.

Quick notes - Doom3:
PDA - lines around text flicker.
Flashlight - didn't work until I pulled out a weapon and went back to the flashlight

These two issues didn't happen with prior drivers.

Koogle · Sep 10, 2004, 12:54 AM

When will the Omega driver based on this final 4.9 driver set be released?

No_Style · Sep 10, 2004, 12:57 AM

8/10 - They fixed a lot of usability issues with the new CCC. Especially with the check boxes and stuff. Still needs some work, but it's getting up there. As for the drivers.

Good stuff.

Blazer · Sep 10, 2004, 01:03 AM

I guess I will be installing it to see if it gives me any improvements, but only because the mmc is part of it now, I can't wait for the omega's !!!!!!

jsx[ifl] · Sep 10, 2004, 01:10 AM

CCC wont open ALL the time, sometimes i click and it opens, others nothing. I don't feel like trouble shooting it either to me it just seems like useless bulk.

Nond · Sep 10, 2004, 01:11 AM

Hrmm well installation went fine.. rebooted and everything seemed ok.

Right clicked my desktop went to properties and hit advance.. boom.. crashed

Rebooted

Right clicked my desktop went to properties..and it crashed again..

so I uninstalled them and went with the drivers that didn't have the new Control Center.. so far no crashes upon clicking the advanced tab.

I'm running Win XP Pro SP2 with everything up to date.

Mocca · Sep 10, 2004, 01:20 AM

Uhm... not good for me.
Rated 5/10 - seems ATi have been more busy playing with the new control panel than looking at the drivers themselves. BF Vietnam is very choppy now, Joint Operations also more choppy... Back to 4.8

Perfect Reason · Sep 10, 2004, 01:38 AM

It annoys the hell out of me that i cant do opengl and d3d spesific settings with ccc.!!!!

Kemal · Sep 10, 2004, 01:39 AM

If I remember from reading on the CoH Forums, installing WinXP SP2 somehow fixed the lighting/flashing issues. Seems they forgot to tell ATI.

I just looked for the post with this info, but its scrolled off of the Dev Digest. I'll try it out for sure later. ^^

Louiemaster · Sep 10, 2004, 01:54 AM

weird little prob here. Whenever i install the 4.9's (even the beta ones) and restart even after using drivercleaner and mobility modder(i have a laptop) i get the bsod that saids page non fault or something like that. But when i restart the thing its gone and its all normal and fine. Just a weird like occurence.

Armand · Sep 10, 2004, 02:05 AM

"Hrmm well installation went fine.. rebooted and everything seemed ok.
Right clicked my desktop went to properties and hit advance.. boom.. crashed
Rebooted Right clicked my desktop went to properties..and it crashed again.."

Same symptom here only even after unistalling the ccc, it still crashed. Had to do a System Restore.

Regular John · Sep 10, 2004, 02:24 AM

Everything looks great except for one problem. I can't fix the Refresh Rates!! In the old drivers you would go into displays for moniters or whatever and force the refresh rate to match the desktop, or whatever worked. Now they're is only an option to force 60hz, even though 85 hz is selected for every other option. My moniter supports 1600x1200 @ 85hz and it has done so with drivers in the past. I have tried using refreshlock and refreshforce to no avail. Anyone able to help?

Warpy · Sep 10, 2004, 02:39 AM

All works ok with SP2 installed until I select advanced under display drivers, the PC blue screens and reboots.

I uninstalled my old display drivers, ran driver cleaner, rebooted and then installed these new cats with the new ATI control pannel.

I have rebooted and tried again - same deal.

I then removed drivers, ran uninstall , ran DC, rebooted, installed drivers - same deal.

Soooooooooo, I then installed the same drivers with the old CP and all works

Spyre · Sep 10, 2004, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nond

Hrmm well installation went fine.. rebooted and everything seemed ok.

Right clicked my desktop went to properties and hit advance.. boom.. crashed

Rebooted

Right clicked my desktop went to properties..and it crashed again..

so I uninstalled them and went with the drivers that didn't have the new Control Center.. so far no crashes upon clicking the advanced tab.

I'm running Win XP Pro SP2 with everything up to date.

Its because you are using a 3rd party util that hooks into the advanced tab like radlinker, uninstall it and go get the latest version and CCC will work fine

Robert McClelland · Sep 10, 2004, 03:19 AM

Make sure you have netframe laastest installed long three hours for me yet for download lol

apoch003 · Sep 10, 2004, 03:53 AM

Well once again, another flawless install for me.

Did you guys remember that you needed to uninstall the previous CCC AND ati control panel?

Do you have .NET installed and updated?

Ah well, the new overdrive tabs are pretty neat!

swatX · Sep 10, 2004, 04:02 AM

apoch do you have 9800xt? i wish they put overdrive for other 9800series cards!

Blazer · Sep 10, 2004, 04:12 AM

I get a warning when ever I try to open the CCC, it tells me "No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly, Please install the ATI driver appropriate for your ATI hardware" but the driver is installed properly already and I have tried uninstalling it, and reinstalling it twice, I guess tomorrow I will be doing the format/windows installation in order to get this new CCC working properly

Ronbos56 · Sep 10, 2004, 04:15 AM

I'm new to this forum, so can u bear with me. I downloaded and installed the new ccc panel and it worked with the omega 4.8's. I booted up again today
and my system was running ragged. Running UT 2003 was slow and hesitating.
3D Mark 03 was ok and so was aquamark 3. Performance was not good at all.
so I installed the new 4.9's with the new ccc panel. Same deal, bad performance. My system started to freeze up. I uninstalled everything and ran drivercleaner etc. reinstalled omega 4.8's and the old cp and everything is running smooth and fast. I also downloaded the latest version of netframe work. I 'm not to confident in trying the new drivers and ccc again.

amd64 3400+ ( 2310 )
1 gig corsair xms c2pt ( timings 2-3-2-5 1 T 2.7 V )
his ice q II x800 xt pe
wd hdd 120 gig
logitech z 5300's
abit kv8 mobo
sony dvd rw
lite on 16X dvd
logitech mx duo
Creative soundblaster audigy 2 zs gamer
HP pavilion f1903 lcd monitor ( 20 ms )

swatX · Sep 10, 2004, 04:18 AM

then just download the cats 4.9 with old cp.

i got a Q

is there a way to get overdrive working with 9800series card?(like pro version )

BWX · Sep 10, 2004, 04:21 AM

I wish ATI would post a list on Windows XP services that need to be enabled for this thing to work... I know there must be more than JUST .Net- It would probably solve issues for 3/4 of the people that have them.

You cannot just take for granted that people are going to be using the exact same configuration these days.

Clubber · Sep 10, 2004, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazer

I get a warning when ever I try to open the CCC, it tells me "No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly, Please install the ATI driver appropriate for your ATI hardware" but the driver is installed properly already and I have tried uninstalling it, and reinstalling it twice, I guess tomorrow I will be doing the format/windows installation in order to get this new CCC working properly

I get that too.. Just went back to old cp

apoch003 · Sep 10, 2004, 04:29 AM

@swatX

Yes, I have a 9800xt.

Ev!L-aLphA · Sep 10, 2004, 05:00 AM

Very very nice drivers i give them a 9

a lot of nice fixes for the drivers / CCC and overall every thing seems faster

Great job ati as usual

wolfran · Sep 10, 2004, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regular John

Everything looks great except for one problem. I can't fix the Refresh Rates!! In the old drivers you would go into displays for moniters or whatever and force the refresh rate to match the desktop, or whatever worked. Now they're is only an option to force 60hz, even though 85 hz is selected for every other option. My moniter supports 1600x1200 @ 85hz and it has done so with drivers in the past. I have tried using refreshlock and refreshforce to no avail. Anyone able to help?

For everyone having problem with fixing the refresh rate under the new CCC,
look at here: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-xp-radeon-display-drivers/55163-ati-ccc-refresh-rate-override-problem.html
That's how you fix the refresh rate in the new CCC.
I know.........it's a bit unintuitive place to put it maybe ATI can do something about it in the next CCC.

Regular John · Sep 10, 2004, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfran

For everyone having problem with fixing the refresh rate under the new CCC,
look at here: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthread.php?t=55163
That's how you fix the refresh rate in the new CCC.
I know.........it's a bit unintuitive place to put it maybe ATI can do something about it in the next CCC.

Thanks a lot!!! Now I can appreciate the drivers to the fullest extent.

Robert McClelland · Sep 10, 2004, 05:39 AM

WOOT Finaly done took me 2 hours and half lol now go unstalled old one installed new one and do benchie

:woot:

Channelsurfer · Sep 10, 2004, 05:42 AM

No probs for me with Cat 4.9... however MMC 9.02 that was released earlier... still doesn't work right on my aiw9700pro.

Exactly same behaviour with SP1 in or SP2, and same with Cat 4.8/4.9... TV doesn't run.

Hope they fix up MMC soon.

Catalyst is much more refined than MMC.

swatX · Sep 10, 2004, 05:42 AM

heres my 9800pro flased to xt @ pro speeds caz of not enough cooling

hl2 VST benches

cats 4.8 1024/768 2xAA 2xAF akk high
88.9fps

cats 4.9 same settings
81.2fps

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 10, 2004, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazer

I get a warning when ever I try to open the CCC, it tells me "No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly, Please install the ATI driver appropriate for your ATI hardware" but the driver is installed properly already and I have tried uninstalling it, and reinstalling it twice, I guess tomorrow I will be doing the format/windows installation in order to get this new CCC working properly

be advised you can't use older files like older opengl files, or much older driver sets with ccc.... Don't know if thats the roo of you problem but something that people should know.

I would reinstall the 4.9's,just run the setup, it can be found here
C:\ATI\SUPPORT\wxp-w2k-CCC-8-051-040825a-017633C\Driver\
that and then reboot....

Quote:

Originally Posted by swatX

then just download the cats 4.9 with old cp.

i got a Q

is there a way to get overdrive working with 9800series card?(like pro version )

No! Overdrive requires two things a overdrive table bios, and thermal sensor in the core the 9800 has nither, mabe the device id, if any is missing over drive will not show

But! some of the 9800's are comeing with R360 cores (the xt core) those could be modified to xt...

Quote:

Originally Posted by swatX

heres my 9800pro flased to xt @ pro speeds caz of not enough cooling

hl2 VST benches

cats 4.8 1024/768 2xAA 2xAF akk high
88.9fps

cats 4.9 same settings
81.2fps

With the CS:sourse and these drivers my fps are rool'in, rool'in,rool'in
now pushing 86+ fps 1024x768x32 details on low, and performance slider all the way left...

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Sep 10, 2004, 12:40 AM	#31
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 70	I have SP2 installed - and I've just installed these drivers. Upon rebooting and logging in I was greeted with a black screen. I waited 10 mins before rebooting. Upon 2nd reboot it worked as before. Quick notes - Doom3: PDA - lines around text flicker. Flashlight - didn't work until I pulled out a weapon and went back to the flashlight These two issues didn't happen with prior drivers. __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Sep 10, 2004, 12:57 AM	#33
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	8/10 - They fixed a lot of usability issues with the new CCC. Especially with the check boxes and stuff. Still needs some work, but it's getting up there. As for the drivers. Good stuff. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Sep 10, 2004, 01:03 AM	#34
Blazer Tweeker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kitchener Posts: 611 Rep Power: 61 System Specs	I guess I will be installing it to see if it gives me any improvements, but only because the mmc is part of it now, I can't wait for the omega's !!!!!! __________________ ASUS Maximus Formula, OCZ 780MXS ps, Core2 Duo 8400 @ 3.80GHz,Corsair Water cooling kit, 4x2gb Mushkin DDR2 8000, 5 hardrives totalling 1.75 TB, Sapphire Theatrix, SyncMaster 2343, Logitech MX-518, 2 Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 Crossfired , running on Windows7 64 bit, all in an Antec P160w Case.

Sep 10, 2004, 01:10 AM	#35
jsx[ifl] DH's Unofficial Hero Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 650 Rep Power: 0	CCC wont open ALL the time, sometimes i click and it opens, others nothing. I don't feel like trouble shooting it either to me it just seems like useless bulk. __________________ [color=Gray][color=DarkRed][color=Gray][color=DarkRed][color=Gray][color=DarkRed][color=Gray][color=DarkRed][color=Gray][color=DarkRed][color=Gray][color=DarkRed][color=Gray] [/color][/color] [/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color]

Sep 10, 2004, 12:54 AM	#32
Koogle .v2 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Norfolk Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	When will the Omega driver based on this final 4.9 driver set be released?

Sep 10, 2004, 01:11 AM	#36
Nond DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Hrmm well installation went fine.. rebooted and everything seemed ok. Right clicked my desktop went to properties and hit advance.. boom.. crashed Rebooted Right clicked my desktop went to properties..and it crashed again.. so I uninstalled them and went with the drivers that didn't have the new Control Center.. so far no crashes upon clicking the advanced tab. I'm running Win XP Pro SP2 with everything up to date. __________________ \|\| Aspire Silver Turbo Case w/ 6 80mm fans \|\| 430w Antec TruePower \|\| ASUS A7N8X Delux Rev. 2 Bios 1008 \|\| Athlon 2500+ @ 3200+ 2.2 Ghz \|\| Thermaltake Extreme Volcano 12 \|\| WD 80Gig 8MB Cache \|\| WD 200Gig 8MB Cache (MP3 Drive) \|\| ATi Radeon 9800 PRO \|\| VGA Silencer Rev. 3 \|\| 2x Corsair XMS 512MB PC3200 DDR RAM

Sep 10, 2004, 01:20 AM	#37
Mocca Somewhere in time Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 133 Rep Power: 0	Uhm... not good for me. Rated 5/10 - seems ATi have been more busy playing with the new control panel than looking at the drivers themselves. BF Vietnam is very choppy now, Joint Operations also more choppy... Back to 4.8 __________________ AMD64 3800+ Dualcore Asus A8N-E Nforce4 Ultra Chipset 2048MB Kingston HyperX Dualchan pc3200 Ram Asus 7800GTX PCI-E 16x Graphicscard

Sep 10, 2004, 01:38 AM	#38
Perfect Reason DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Norway, Oslo Posts: 69 Rep Power: 0	It annoys the hell out of me that i cant do opengl and d3d spesific settings with ccc.!!!! __________________ [Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4Ghz Conroe \w Zalman 9500 AT] - [Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6] \| [WD HD 150GB 16mb Raptor] - [WD HD 400GB 16mb Caviar] - [Aerocool ExtremeEngine 3T Black] - [Aerocool 550W Turbine Power] - [Creative SB X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS] - [Geil 2GB PC6400 DDR2] - [XFX 7950GX2 520M, 1GB, Extreme] - [BenQ FP937+ 19"] - [Razor DiamondBack] 3Dmark 03: 34641 - 3Dmark 06: 8672 - Stock Temps: CPU: 35c GPU: 52c - Clocked Temps: N\A.

Sep 10, 2004, 01:39 AM	#39
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	If I remember from reading on the CoH Forums, installing WinXP SP2 somehow fixed the lighting/flashing issues. Seems they forgot to tell ATI. I just looked for the post with this info, but its scrolled off of the Dev Digest. I'll try it out for sure later. ^^ __________________ ASUS A7N8X Rev 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 1gb PC3200 DDR (512mb PC3200x2) + 256mb Radeon X800 Pro Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Windows XP SP 2

Sep 10, 2004, 01:54 AM	#40
Louiemaster Masto Commando Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Don't worry about it unless your a stalker. Posts: 295 Rep Power: 0	weird little prob here. Whenever i install the 4.9's (even the beta ones) and restart even after using drivercleaner and mobility modder(i have a laptop) i get the bsod that saids page non fault or something like that. But when i restart the thing its gone and its all normal and fine. Just a weird like occurence. __________________ Lets blow this popsicle stand!

Sep 10, 2004, 02:05 AM	#41
Armand DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Marlton, NJ Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	"Hrmm well installation went fine.. rebooted and everything seemed ok. Right clicked my desktop went to properties and hit advance.. boom.. crashed Rebooted Right clicked my desktop went to properties..and it crashed again.." Same symptom here only even after unistalling the ccc, it still crashed. Had to do a System Restore. __________________ ASrock K7S8XE AMD XP 2800+ Sapphire 9600 Pro 512M PC2700 WD 80g 7200rpm Compaq Qvision 21" Monitor

Sep 10, 2004, 02:24 AM	#42
Regular John DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	Everything looks great except for one problem. I can't fix the Refresh Rates!! In the old drivers you would go into displays for moniters or whatever and force the refresh rate to match the desktop, or whatever worked. Now they're is only an option to force 60hz, even though 85 hz is selected for every other option. My moniter supports 1600x1200 @ 85hz and it has done so with drivers in the past. I have tried using refreshlock and refreshforce to no avail. Anyone able to help? __________________ The Regular John Rig Intel P4 2.8c @ 3.08 Asus P4C800 Deluxe 2x 512 Crucial Memory PC-3200 @ 220 mhz ATI 9800xt - overclocked until I got Doom 3 Creative Audigy 2 ZS w/ Creative inspire 5.1 speakers 21 inch philips 201b4 moniter

Sep 10, 2004, 02:39 AM	#43
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	All works ok with SP2 installed until I select advanced under display drivers, the PC blue screens and reboots. I uninstalled my old display drivers, ran driver cleaner, rebooted and then installed these new cats with the new ATI control pannel. I have rebooted and tried again - same deal. I then removed drivers, ran uninstall , ran DC, rebooted, installed drivers - same deal. Soooooooooo, I then installed the same drivers with the old CP and all works __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Sep 10, 2004, 03:19 AM	#45
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,234 Rep Power: 193 System Specs	Make sure you have netframe laastest installed long three hours for me yet for download lol __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2242746 Last edited by Robert McClelland; Sep 10, 2004 at 03:29 AM.

Sep 10, 2004, 03:53 AM	#46
apoch003 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: usa Posts: 214 Rep Power: 0	Well once again, another flawless install for me. Did you guys remember that you needed to uninstall the previous CCC AND ati control panel? Do you have .NET installed and updated? Ah well, the new overdrive tabs are pretty neat!

Sep 10, 2004, 04:02 AM	#47
swatX ba\|\\|\\|ed Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 618 Rep Power: 0	apoch do you have 9800xt? i wish they put overdrive for other 9800series cards! __________________ thx stick for the sig

Sep 10, 2004, 04:12 AM	#48
Blazer Tweeker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kitchener Posts: 611 Rep Power: 61 System Specs	I get a warning when ever I try to open the CCC, it tells me "No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly, Please install the ATI driver appropriate for your ATI hardware" but the driver is installed properly already and I have tried uninstalling it, and reinstalling it twice, I guess tomorrow I will be doing the format/windows installation in order to get this new CCC working properly __________________ ASUS Maximus Formula, OCZ 780MXS ps, Core2 Duo 8400 @ 3.80GHz,Corsair Water cooling kit, 4x2gb Mushkin DDR2 8000, 5 hardrives totalling 1.75 TB, Sapphire Theatrix, SyncMaster 2343, Logitech MX-518, 2 Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 Crossfired , running on Windows7 64 bit, all in an Antec P160w Case.

Sep 10, 2004, 04:15 AM	#49
Ronbos56 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	I'm new to this forum, so can u bear with me. I downloaded and installed the new ccc panel and it worked with the omega 4.8's. I booted up again today and my system was running ragged. Running UT 2003 was slow and hesitating. 3D Mark 03 was ok and so was aquamark 3. Performance was not good at all. so I installed the new 4.9's with the new ccc panel. Same deal, bad performance. My system started to freeze up. I uninstalled everything and ran drivercleaner etc. reinstalled omega 4.8's and the old cp and everything is running smooth and fast. I also downloaded the latest version of netframe work. I 'm not to confident in trying the new drivers and ccc again. amd64 3400+ ( 2310 ) 1 gig corsair xms c2pt ( timings 2-3-2-5 1 T 2.7 V ) his ice q II x800 xt pe wd hdd 120 gig logitech z 5300's abit kv8 mobo sony dvd rw lite on 16X dvd logitech mx duo Creative soundblaster audigy 2 zs gamer HP pavilion f1903 lcd monitor ( 20 ms ) Last edited by Ronbos56; Sep 10, 2004 at 04:21 AM.

Sep 10, 2004, 04:18 AM	#50
swatX ba\|\\|\\|ed Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 618 Rep Power: 0	then just download the cats 4.9 with old cp. i got a Q is there a way to get overdrive working with 9800series card?(like pro version ) __________________ thx stick for the sig

Sep 10, 2004, 04:21 AM	#51
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	I wish ATI would post a list on Windows XP services that need to be enabled for this thing to work... I know there must be more than JUST .Net- It would probably solve issues for 3/4 of the people that have them. You cannot just take for granted that people are going to be using the exact same configuration these days. __________________

Sep 10, 2004, 04:29 AM	#53
apoch003 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: usa Posts: 214 Rep Power: 0	@swatX Yes, I have a 9800xt.

Sep 10, 2004, 05:00 AM	#54
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 60	Very very nice drivers i give them a 9 a lot of nice fixes for the drivers / CCC and overall every thing seems faster Great job ati as usual __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08

Sep 10, 2004, 05:39 AM	#57
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,234 Rep Power: 193 System Specs	WOOT Finaly done took me 2 hours and half lol now go unstalled old one installed new one and do benchie :woot: __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2242746

Sep 10, 2004, 05:42 AM	#58
Channelsurfer DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 81 Rep Power: 0	No probs for me with Cat 4.9... however MMC 9.02 that was released earlier... still doesn't work right on my aiw9700pro. Exactly same behaviour with SP1 in or SP2, and same with Cat 4.8/4.9... TV doesn't run. Hope they fix up MMC soon. Catalyst is much more refined than MMC.