4.8 CATALYST Control Center, Investigated

~~bigirb2002~~ · Sep 14, 2004, 12:10 AM

Funny you try to correct his spelling when you cant spell *spelled*

BWX · Sep 14, 2004, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bigirb2002

Funny you try to correct his spelling when you cant spell *spelled*

ignorance is bliss I guess....

spelt 2

( P ) Pronunciation Key (splt)
v.
A past tense and a past participle of spell 1.

Spell \Spell\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Spelled or Spelt; p. pr. & vb. n. Spelling.]

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No_Style · Sep 14, 2004, 03:21 AM

Stay on topic please. This is the "Radeon Display Drivers" section, not the "Grade 9 English Discussion" section.

Both 'spelled' and 'spelt' are right. 'Spelt' is mainly British English.

~~REGENERAT1ON~~ · Sep 14, 2004, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

I think that relies alot of the other stuff you may have starting...
IE. If you on a fresh XP sp2 install and you've loaded CCC it loads before Nortan AV and firewall etc useally one of the first things loaded

But after yanking it and then putting it back on it would load after Nortan AV and firewall etc wich made it appear to take much longer to load.. it seems to be the last thing to load, but it also seems the last thing to start to load...
Don't know why ...

no AV or FW
system is super optimized for performance
requsted services is running
no hd/systemfiles fragments
cpu and ram timing stable as ice
pagefile optimized as hell
no errors notifcations

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 14, 2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BWX

Ok then, do the same test with Doom 3 or Farcry. I wonder what the results would be then since you will most likely be way over the 512mb of physical ram anyway.... It would be interesting to also do a test without .net installed at all AND all the services needed to run .net (such as the server service, file sharing, etc) which many people turn off on a free standing gaming rig.. It would be interesting to see those results too, and see what the difference is in memory usage when you are actually pushing your system, not sticking with games that don't even come close to using up up your physical ram.

this is a "free standing game rig" don't foget I game plenty more then you or i'd guess almost anyone else does...

the XP registry is were you find about a good 90% of the performace gains there are to be had... (even serivces are/can be controled from there)

services do so little i leave then as they are why? there is't a big enough differance to warrent the other problems that commanly result....

.net is the future MS has for is an here to stay you can accrpt change or live in the past... It's up to you but eventally you have .net or you will not have windows and possably linux or mac bucouse .net can be ported!

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Originally Posted by BWX

Yeah ya still need it on for the CCC to work..

Basically it would be interesting to see the difference in mem usage and boot-up time between a fully tweaked out system with all unnecessary services turned off and .net not even installed, and a system with the CCC and all the required services that it and .net need to function installed and running..

servaces only "frees some memory" wtf good it unused memory thats not being used? a waste.. most that stuff that set in ram to long ends up paged out to swap anyways .. nothing i'll ever worry about with XP @ least

(not to mention most people by far leave thier services alone)

MindlessOath · Sep 14, 2004, 06:14 PM

neon, im sorry but some people will not learn, or care.

BWX · Sep 14, 2004, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MindlessOath

neon, im sorry but some people will not learn, or care.

"do the same test with Doom 3 or Farcry."

petri1 · Sep 15, 2004, 08:45 AM

Well my experience of the new CCC is that when it loads it freezes everything up for a sec or 2 why?

and why is there two CLI (is it spelled right?) and when i have it opened there is 2 preview and sometimes it just freeze adn then preview and cli starts to use cpu power another thing i can´t figure out so i went to the old CP the new one causes tooo much problems for me

well for reference i saw no less performance in DOOM3 or far cry with the new CCC

MindlessOath · Sep 16, 2004, 12:16 AM

mabe u need to uninstall your old versions first. im guessing cause their should be TWO CLI.exe files i think, or last i looked i had them and once i had only one. hrm.. weird.

most people found a great advantage in doom3 but only after they formatted fresh system, try that and see, i dunno why this has to be done to see the differnce. mabe we need a new version of driver cleaner, im guessing so with this new control panel etc.

Furious1 · Sep 16, 2004, 01:30 AM

Great Job on doing exactly what I (and some others) need to know. From your results I can see that CCC is just the next step in Technology and that maybe ppl who are having problems with it, need to upgrade their computers.

Top Effort to Neon.

BWX · Sep 16, 2004, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by petri1

Well my experience of the new CCC is that when it loads it freezes everything up for a sec or 2 why?

and why is there two CLI (is it spelled right?) and when i have it opened there is 2 preview and sometimes it just freeze adn then preview and cli starts to use cpu power another thing i can´t figure out so i went to the old CP the new one causes tooo much problems for me

well for reference i saw no less performance in DOOM3 or far cry with the new CCC

Setting your services to defaults will help a lot.

blackviper.com will tell you what is default... http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

Sep 14, 2004, 03:21 AM	#33
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Stay on topic please. This is the "Radeon Display Drivers" section, not the "Grade 9 English Discussion" section. Both 'spelled' and 'spelt' are right. 'Spelt' is mainly British English. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here Last edited by No_Style; Sep 14, 2004 at 03:44 AM.

Sep 14, 2004, 06:14 PM	#36
MindlessOath DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,121 Rep Power: 0	neon, im sorry but some people will not learn, or care. __________________ ATI Radeon X800XT PE <---- LOOK UPDATED!! AMD Athlon 2Ghz, nforce2, 512mb ddr3500 LINKS U SHOULD KNOW!!!! DriverCleaner - use every time u install new drivers! ATI driver feedback - to report driver problems Tacticalcenter - my Gaming website and forums ATI 3rd party Optimized Driver Compairison

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petri1 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	Well my experience of the new CCC is that when it loads it freezes everything up for a sec or 2 why? and why is there two CLI (is it spelled right?) and when i have it opened there is 2 preview and sometimes it just freeze adn then preview and cli starts to use cpu power another thing i can´t figure out so i went to the old CP the new one causes tooo much problems for me well for reference i saw no less performance in DOOM3 or far cry with the new CCC __________________ [COLOR=#232d35] [COLOR=Red]Intel Core 2 Quad 9450@2,66GHZ PowerColor Ati Radeon HD4870 512mb Gigabyte GaE-X38 4GB Kingston Hyper X [/COLOR] [/COLOR]

Sep 16, 2004, 12:16 AM	#39
MindlessOath DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,121 Rep Power: 0	mabe u need to uninstall your old versions first. im guessing cause their should be TWO CLI.exe files i think, or last i looked i had them and once i had only one. hrm.. weird. most people found a great advantage in doom3 but only after they formatted fresh system, try that and see, i dunno why this has to be done to see the differnce. mabe we need a new version of driver cleaner, im guessing so with this new control panel etc. __________________ ATI Radeon X800XT PE <---- LOOK UPDATED!! AMD Athlon 2Ghz, nforce2, 512mb ddr3500 LINKS U SHOULD KNOW!!!! DriverCleaner - use every time u install new drivers! ATI driver feedback - to report driver problems Tacticalcenter - my Gaming website and forums ATI 3rd party Optimized Driver Compairison

Sep 16, 2004, 01:30 AM	#40
Furious1 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 98 Rep Power: 0	Great Job on doing exactly what I (and some others) need to know. From your results I can see that CCC is just the next step in Technology and that maybe ppl who are having problems with it, need to upgrade their computers. Top Effort to Neon. __________________ [color=#dddddd][color=#f0f0f0][color=#dddddd][color=#0000ff][color=darkred][color=#0000ff][color=darkred]P4 @ 3.4E (243 FSB) MSI Neo2 865PE Neo2-PLS Sapphire x800 XT-PE Kingston 1 GB DDR466 2x SATA 80GB 7200RPM[/color][/color][/color][/color][/color] [color=#dddddd][color=#f0f0f0][color=#dddddd][color=#0000ff][color=darkred][color=#0000ff]3Dmarks03 = 12763 3Dmarks05 = 5804[/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color]

Sep 14, 2004, 12:10 AM	#31
~~bigirb2002~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: virginia Posts: 53 Rep Power: 0	Funny you try to correct his spelling when you cant spell spelled