Some Quick 4.9 CCC VS Old CP numbers

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 15, 2004, 10:01 PM

[color=red]Some Quick 4.9 CCC VS Old CP numbers[/color]

This is after a fresh install nothing installed except for drivers, my screen shot program, .net 2.0 beta 1, and cacheman 5.5 a tool I normally use but haven't used it to alter any of the default windows settings (that i normally do). Also, i've disabled to memory recover option to not taint the results, i never us that feature anyways. (In short this is an untweaked XP install). Last look I took I did things the hard way and did everything manually running from task manager numbers. This is a much simpler way to take a look at what going on.

each run cp version installed, system defragmented, test results tooken on the second reboot.

I'm just going to thow these numbers at you real quick and let you draw your own conclusions:

[color=red]System useable/cp loaded[/color]
Old CP Boot time: 41/41
CCC --Boot time: 49/60

thats 8 seconds more to a useable desktop, and a total of 19 seconds more till ccc is fully loaded.. For some reason CCC appears to be the last to load, but also the last to start loading.

[color=red]Boot Time:[/color]
[color=#ff0000][/color]

[color=#ff0000]CP setting open:[/color]

(yes when you have a 3d application loaded, with in windows game running it's going to use more resourses)

gonz0 · Sep 15, 2004, 11:51 PM

I'm a little confused by the #'s neon. I still haven't installed the new CP, and am considering doing so, just am a little bit weary of doing so because of all the negative feedback and what not. I'm also waiting to see if Unian uses the new CP in thier latest driver release.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 16, 2004, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonz0

I'm a little confused by the #'s neon. I still haven't installed the new CP, and am considering doing so, just am a little bit weary of doing so because of all the negative feedback and what not. I'm also waiting to see if Unian uses the new CP in thier latest driver release.

It's pretty simple , just compair two screens in each area and you'll see the differances. this is based just on resourse usage since thats what alot people seem to have a bigest problem with. It's more of a point of referance then anything as configerations verry so will your results. Despite the resourse useage the impact of performance is nil. CCC is better but it layed out differatly etc. openions will verry. I don't know if it will affect moded sets i havn't tested/herd much about it. The modders apper to be stearing clear for now.

It's best you try it for your self and draw your own conclusions.

gonz0 · Sep 16, 2004, 12:46 AM

Right on thanks neon.

Judas · Sep 16, 2004, 04:13 AM

to tell anyone the truth...

I'm running 512mb of ram ATM.... i installed the 4.9's with the CCC by default on a fresh install....

WHILE within the CP... the recourse usage climbs... however, apon closing the CP ... moving the task manager over to another windows (having 2 task managers going at once... one for processes and one for performance) and loading up ANY other program....

The usage drops dramatically..... (by default. there are 2 instances of the CLI.exe (the CCC), disabling the systray icon will kill one of the processes)

Personally, other then a good amount of optimisations... and other little fixes need for the CCC currently, it runs exactly the same as the old CP, AND it packs a hell of alot more stuff into the new CP

starfury6 · Sep 16, 2004, 02:30 PM

Some of us still can't even run it due to this 'No ATI Drivers installed' error. I'd like to be able to even give it a try. Guess I might know more after a fresh install of WinXP but that's not worht the hastle just for a new CP no matter how cool.

Yallrun · Sep 16, 2004, 02:38 PM

Thanks for the pics NC. The new CCC is pretty cool. Yeah I had probs at first, but worked it out, They are runnnig pretty good now. The little race car flash image you get to watch while making setting changes is a great idea. You can see the res quality before you hit apply! That rocks!

Yallrun

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 16, 2004, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yallrun

Thanks for the pics NC. The new CCC is pretty cool. Yeah I had probs at first, but worked it out, They are runnnig pretty good now. The little race car flash image you get to watch while making setting changes is a great idea. You can see the res quality before you hit apply! That rocks!

Yallrun

actually thats not flash

thats direct X

digitalwanderer · Sep 16, 2004, 07:15 PM

Hanners just put up a ditty on this too:

http://www.elitebastards.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6833

Not a pimp, just an FYI.

Vampyromaniac · Sep 16, 2004, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

actually thats not flash

thats direct X

actually it's OpenGL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veridian3

The "preview.exe" file (used for the 3D preview) is a based on the Win32 process (whereas the rest of the CATALYST Control Center is based on the .NET framework), and is strictly an OpenGL application.

(The 3D preview is an OpenGL application that uses a number of textures and shaders and requires approximately 20 MB of RAM while it is running as soon as the CATALYST Control Center is closed the preview stops running, and releases the occupied RAM.)

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 16, 2004, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vampyromaniac

actually it's OpenGL

so it is not that it's important

my point was it not just a flash it and it an actuall 3d demo

here is the dx symbol I made a vaild asumption ....

here is the icons for the CCC preview application notice something?

Yallrun · Sep 16, 2004, 09:13 PM

Quote:

actually thats not flash

thats direct X

Quote:

actually it's OpenGL

Hum werid, when I right click the race car image it says "about macromedia player". Just assumed it was flash. Also I was wondering why I don't have the over drive tab?

John

MindlessOath · Sep 16, 2004, 10:02 PM

ya its weird, it said to be openGL tho the icon is direct x... wtf? weird man.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 16, 2004, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindlessOath

ya its weird, it said to be openGL tho the icon is direct x... wtf? weird man.

thats what i thought... but it is opengl I checked

wtf is correct

Yallrun · Sep 17, 2004, 12:08 AM

Ya I just got home from work and checked it out and correction, it's says when you right click; "about macromedia flash player 7"..... Oh crap I'm sorry guys, it says that when you right click the splash screen on welcome. doh!

(If you give out wrong info in a forum...you might be a redneck! lol)

Yallrun

pr0digal jenius · Sep 17, 2004, 12:32 AM

no harm in being wrong yallrun....everyone does it...except me of course

Sharkims · Sep 17, 2004, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starfury6

Some of us still can't even run it due to this 'No ATI Drivers installed' error. I'd like to be able to even give it a try. Guess I might know more after a fresh install of WinXP but that's not worht the hastle just for a new CP no matter how cool.

The CCC only supports Radeon 9500+, so if you don't have that.... Well there you go.

Yallrun · Sep 17, 2004, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

no harm in being wrong yallrun....everyone does it...except me of course

lmfao of course!

Yallrun

Sep 15, 2004, 10:01 PM	#1
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Some Quick 4.9 CCC VS Old CP numbers [color=red]Some Quick 4.9 CCC VS Old CP numbers[/color] This is after a fresh install nothing installed except for drivers, my screen shot program, .net 2.0 beta 1, and cacheman 5.5 a tool I normally use but haven't used it to alter any of the default windows settings (that i normally do). Also, i've disabled to memory recover option to not taint the results, i never us that feature anyways. (In short this is an untweaked XP install). Last look I took I did things the hard way and did everything manually running from task manager numbers. This is a much simpler way to take a look at what going on. each run cp version installed, system defragmented, test results tooken on the second reboot. I'm just going to thow these numbers at you real quick and let you draw your own conclusions: [color=red]System useable/cp loaded[/color] Old CP Boot time: 41/41 CCC --Boot time: 49/60 thats 8 seconds more to a useable desktop, and a total of 19 seconds more till ccc is fully loaded.. For some reason CCC appears to be the last to load, but also the last to start loading. [color=red]Boot Time:[/color] [color=#ff0000][/color] [color=#ff0000]CP setting open:[/color] (yes when you have a 3d application loaded, with in windows game running it's going to use more resourses) __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Nov 13, 2004 at 12:56 AM.

Sep 15, 2004, 11:51 PM	#2
gonz0 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California Posts: 70 Rep Power: 0	I'm a little confused by the #'s neon. I still haven't installed the new CP, and am considering doing so, just am a little bit weary of doing so because of all the negative feedback and what not. I'm also waiting to see if Unian uses the new CP in thier latest driver release. __________________ _______ AMD Dual Core 4400+ Asus A8N-SLI Premium Motherboard 2gb OCZ Platinum Ram @ 2-3-2 Nvidia 7800GTX Sound Blaster Audigy 2ZS Western Digital 74gb Raptor Drive _______

Sep 16, 2004, 12:46 AM	#4
gonz0 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California Posts: 70 Rep Power: 0	Right on thanks neon. __________________ _______ AMD Dual Core 4400+ Asus A8N-SLI Premium Motherboard 2gb OCZ Platinum Ram @ 2-3-2 Nvidia 7800GTX Sound Blaster Audigy 2ZS Western Digital 74gb Raptor Drive _______

Sep 16, 2004, 02:38 PM	#7
Yallrun DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 71 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the pics NC. The new CCC is pretty cool. Yeah I had probs at first, but worked it out, They are runnnig pretty good now. The little race car flash image you get to watch while making setting changes is a great idea. You can see the res quality before you hit apply! That rocks! Yallrun __________________ DFI LP UT 250 AMD 64 3200 Newcastle [color=#dddddd]160 SATA WD[/color] [color=#dddddd]2X1 Gig G.Skills Extreme[/color] [color=#dddddd]ATI X800XT PE[/color] [color=#dddddd]500W X Connect[/color] [color=#dddddd]Antec DVD/CDRW SP1 [/color]

Sep 16, 2004, 07:15 PM	#9
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,620 Rep Power: 0	Hanners just put up a ditty on this too: http://www.elitebastards.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6833 Not a pimp, just an FYI. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Sep 16, 2004, 02:30 PM	#6
starfury6 Dark Jedi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Some of us still can't even run it due to this 'No ATI Drivers installed' error. I'd like to be able to even give it a try. Guess I might know more after a fresh install of WinXP but that's not worht the hastle just for a new CP no matter how cool.

Sep 16, 2004, 10:02 PM	#13
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Sep 17, 2004, 12:08 AM	#15
Yallrun DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 71 Rep Power: 0	Ya I just got home from work and checked it out and correction, it's says when you right click; "about macromedia flash player 7"..... Oh crap I'm sorry guys, it says that when you right click the splash screen on welcome. doh! (If you give out wrong info in a forum...you might be a redneck! lol) Yallrun __________________ DFI LP UT 250 AMD 64 3200 Newcastle [color=#dddddd]160 SATA WD[/color] [color=#dddddd]2X1 Gig G.Skills Extreme[/color] [color=#dddddd]ATI X800XT PE[/color] [color=#dddddd]500W X Connect[/color] [color=#dddddd]Antec DVD/CDRW SP1 [/color]

Sep 17, 2004, 12:32 AM	#16
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	no harm in being wrong yallrun....everyone does it...except me of course