Omega 2.5.76 Advanced 3D settings problem

Lanaaja · Sep 23, 2004, 02:09 PM

Ok, I posted about my issue in the sticky 2.5.76 thread but perhaps a new thread is a better way to do this.

My problem is, that any of the advanced 3d settings, like AA, don't work at all. It's NOT the same issue than some users had where the advanced settings were not visible in the Radlinker menu. I have those settings available, and I have set for example 4x AA for both DX and OGL modes. But when I launch any game, DX or OGL, these settings do not work. No AA at all.

I looked at the updated Radlinker guide and made Radlinks from my game shortcuts, in DX games properties i checked the Mode Change box but it still does nopt help in any DX game, and there's no Mode Change checkbox for OGL mode.

I've tried running the DH Driver Cleaner and reinstalling the drivers, but that does not help either. Also tried reinstalling only Radlinker and the "Retest All" option in Advanced SmartGart Options.

I've used many Omega versions before and never had a problem like this.

Shinjikun · Sep 23, 2004, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanaaja

Ok, I posted about my issue in the sticky 2.5.76 thread but perhaps a new thread is a better way to do this.

My problem is, that any of the advanced 3d settings, like AA, don't work at all. It's NOT the same issue than some users had where the advanced settings were not visible in the Radlinker menu. I have those settings available, and I have set for example 4x AA for both DX and OGL modes. But when I launch any game, DX or OGL, these settings do not work. No AA at all.

I looked at the updated Radlinker guide and made Radlinks from my game shortcuts, in DX games properties i checked the Mode Change box but it still does nopt help in any DX game, and there's no Mode Change checkbox for OGL mode.

I've tried running the DH Driver Cleaner and reinstalling the drivers, but that does not help either. Also tried reinstalling only Radlinker and the "Retest All" option in Advanced SmartGart Options.

I've used many Omega versions before and never had a problem like this.

I had some minor GUI issues with it but overall it was working. By any chance do you use Style XP or WindowBlinds?

Lanaaja · Sep 23, 2004, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinjikun

I had some minor GUI issues with it but overall it was working. By any chance do you use Style XP or WindowBlinds?

I have the hacked uxtheme.dll and a custom .msstyle theme from deviantART.
I don't have any of those actual theme programs though.

ViRGE · Sep 23, 2004, 11:18 PM

I'm having the same issue down to the letter, and I'm using the Longhorn Transformation Pack, which uses a hacked uxtheme.dll.

Shinjikun · Sep 23, 2004, 11:22 PM

If at all possible (I don't use the hacked .DLL or StyleXP so I don't know exactly) try disabling and unloading that .DLL if you use a piece of software like StyleXP to load it. Another thing you can try (if you are using JUST the DLL and no software) is stop the Themes service temporarily from the administrative tools\services control program in the control panel. Stop the themes service and then try again as it may be an issue with the theme and the control panel butting heads (a GUI issue).

Lanaaja · Sep 24, 2004, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinjikun

If at all possible (I don't use the hacked .DLL or StyleXP so I don't know exactly) try disabling and unloading that .DLL if you use a piece of software like StyleXP to load it. Another thing you can try (if you are using JUST the DLL and no software) is stop the Themes service temporarily from the administrative tools\services control program in the control panel. Stop the themes service and then try again as it may be an issue with the theme and the control panel butting heads (a GUI issue).

Ok I disabled the theme service, didn't help so I restored the original uxtheme.dll, but it didn't help either.

I'm glad that it looks like that .dll did not cause this, because now I don't have to give up using custom themes. Btw, all those theme programs like Style XP SUCK

ImHomegr0wn · Sep 24, 2004, 04:09 AM

I got the same problem and I've never had a problem before with AA/AF

. It doesn't work when I create a radlink either.

ImHomegr0wn · Sep 24, 2004, 07:24 AM

I found out that the settings don't apply when I'm using the special CS OpenGL driver (I've always used this driver too).

Shinjikun · Sep 24, 2004, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanaaja

Ok I disabled the theme service, didn't help so I restored the original uxtheme.dll, but it didn't help either.

I'm glad that it looks like that .dll did not cause this, because now I don't have to give up using custom themes. Btw, all those theme programs like Style XP SUCK

Hmm interesting. I wonder what the issue is.

I use WindowBlinds and saw a very minor GUI issue with the new Advanced 3D tab in the Omega drivers but nothing major at all.

Vegtro · Sep 24, 2004, 07:17 PM

I have the same problem. No AA or AF. =(

Reinstalled like 4 times already and no luck.

ViRGE · Sep 24, 2004, 08:23 PM

What card does everyone have? Perhaps it's related to just certain cards.

<- ATI X800 Pro

Shinjikun · Sep 24, 2004, 09:07 PM

<-- Radeon 9500 Pro

duceyaj · Sep 24, 2004, 10:34 PM

x800xt-pe here. no aa/af working here either.

Vegtro · Sep 24, 2004, 11:25 PM

9500np->9700 here

Lanaaja · Sep 24, 2004, 11:56 PM

9700 non-pro here

ViRGE · Sep 25, 2004, 12:42 AM

Well, there goes that idea.

Still, someone grab Omega's attention, this looks to be some sort of common flaw.

ImHomegr0wn · Sep 25, 2004, 02:44 AM

Are any of you using a Special OpenGL driver?

ViRGE · Sep 25, 2004, 03:43 AM

I haven't even tried using OpenGL, almost all of my games are D3D. That said, no, I'm using the standard OpenGL driver.

MobileTerror · Sep 25, 2004, 04:23 AM

Mobility Radeon 9000 128MB

Lanaaja · Sep 25, 2004, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImHomegr0wn

Are any of you using a Special OpenGL driver?

No, just the standard one... I could give the special OGL driver a go tomorrow when I'm back home. But I doubt it will work..

Structure · Sep 28, 2004, 06:09 AM

Registered just for this thread. :P

I am having the same problem. Been using the Omega drivers for some time now, at least 4-5 sets. Up until the 4.9 version, vsync worked flawlessly with the hl ogl driver. After installing, I could not get vsync to work in either ogl or directx. I tried both ogl drivers with the same results: image tearing (no vsync). I don't use AA/AF that much, so I can't report on those.

Just to be sure, I uninstalled the set and followed the Driver Cleaner guide to reinstall. The version that came with the drivers wouldn't run (I forget the error message), so I downloaded v3.3 from this site. I uninstalled, rebooted into safe mode, canceled the auto-detection, uninstalled the hardware, ran driver cleaner, rebooted, and installed the drivers as normal. I followed this procedure to reinstall the 4.9 version, 4.8, 4.7, and finally the official catalyst 4.9. My vsync had been running perfectly before this release, and even reverting back to the previous omega versions didn't bring it back. It was still broken.

I used to enable it by setting it to application preference, but now I have to set it to forced on to get it to work with half-life. This is with the official drivers, mind you.

Not sure what the problem is, just wanting to contribute a bug report I guess. Thanks for all the hard work, Omega.

Card: ATI Radeon 9500 Pro (Not OC'ed)
OS: XP Pro SP2
Mobo: Asus K8N-E Deluxe
CPU: AMD64 3200+
RAM: 1GB DDR400

ImHomegr0wn · Sep 28, 2004, 01:02 PM

Yeah, I tried uninstalling/reinstalling many times and I could never get any of the OpenGL settings to apply with the Special OpenGL file. I then thought to put one of my back up special OpenGL drivers from a previous set that already had the settings on and it worked (I assumed it would).

AMD XP 3200+
ASUS A7N8X
9800 Pro 128mb Stock
1GB PC3500
Windows XP Pro SP1
DX9.0c

BWX · Oct 1, 2004, 07:53 AM

Hmm, these drivers worked fine for me- actually they worked perfectly.. On to the Beta 8.07 now though..

Oh, also I couldn't get the CCC to work "properly" no matter what- even after putting all my services to default.

Lanaaja · Oct 1, 2004, 12:33 PM

I gave up finding a solution and went back to 2.5.58. I play online almost every night so I like to have my drivers working properly.

Omegadrive · Oct 1, 2004, 03:23 PM

One important question for those of you having problems, Did had CCC installed sometime before installing these drievrs?
If you do, then I know what the problem is.
CCC changed the way AA, AF and VSYNC are applied, so if you have it installed or it was not properly removed vefore installing the drivers, NONE of the settings in the OGL or D3D options will work.
This is already fixed in the next set...

Lanaaja · Oct 1, 2004, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omegadrive

One important question for those of you having problems, Did had CCC installed sometime before installing these drievrs?
If you do, then I know what the problem is.
CCC changed the way AA, AF and VSYNC are applied, so if you have it installed or it was not properly removed vefore installing the drivers, NONE of the settings in the OGL or D3D options will work.
This is already fixed in the next set...

I have not had the CCC for a long time, as I've been using the Omegas for over a year now. I haven't even installed new Cats when they came out, but waited for your version

And I ran Driver Cleaner too when trying to get the new set to work, shoudn't it remove any traces of the CCC too? (I don't know for sure)

BWX · Oct 1, 2004, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanaaja

I have not had the CCC for a long time, as I've been using the Omegas for over a year now. I haven't even installed new Cats when they came out, but waited for your version

And I ran Driver Cleaner too when trying to get the new set to work, shoudn't it remove any traces of the CCC too? (I don't know for sure)

Did you even install the Radlinker?

Lanaaja · Oct 1, 2004, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWX

Did you even install the Radlinker?

Yes, reinstalled it after installing the 2.5.76. It already installed correctly with the drivers though (the 3D settings were available before reinstall).

Structure · Oct 1, 2004, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omegadrive

One important question for those of you having problems, Did had CCC installed sometime before installing these drievrs?

I have never installed the Catalyst Control Center on any computer I own. My computer had only had Omega drivers installed since I formatted about 6 weeks ago. I first used the 4.7 set, then 4.8, and when I installed 4.9 it all broke. I have now reverted back to the ATI drivers since they seem to be the only set where I can get vsync.

Razgriz · Oct 1, 2004, 10:20 PM

yea, ive got a 9700 Pro, and whenever i go into the direct3d and opengl tabs in advanced tab, it always turns my screen grey.

Sep 23, 2004, 02:09 PM	#1
Lanaaja DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Omega 2.5.76 Advanced 3D settings problem Ok, I posted about my issue in the sticky 2.5.76 thread but perhaps a new thread is a better way to do this. My problem is, that any of the advanced 3d settings, like AA, don't work at all. It's NOT the same issue than some users had where the advanced settings were not visible in the Radlinker menu. I have those settings available, and I have set for example 4x AA for both DX and OGL modes. But when I launch any game, DX or OGL, these settings do not work. No AA at all. I looked at the updated Radlinker guide and made Radlinks from my game shortcuts, in DX games properties i checked the Mode Change box but it still does nopt help in any DX game, and there's no Mode Change checkbox for OGL mode. I've tried running the DH Driver Cleaner and reinstalling the drivers, but that does not help either. Also tried reinstalling only Radlinker and the "Retest All" option in Advanced SmartGart Options. I've used many Omega versions before and never had a problem like this.

Sep 23, 2004, 11:22 PM	#5
Shinjikun 第3 子供 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nerv HQ Posts: 1,319 Rep Power: 0	If at all possible (I don't use the hacked .DLL or StyleXP so I don't know exactly) try disabling and unloading that .DLL if you use a piece of software like StyleXP to load it. Another thing you can try (if you are using JUST the DLL and no software) is stop the Themes service temporarily from the administrative tools\services control program in the control panel. Stop the themes service and then try again as it may be an issue with the theme and the control panel butting heads (a GUI issue). __________________ Xfire: [Shinji1225 \ Status] A7N8X-E Deluxe Athlon XP 2500+ (@ 2.2 GHz 11x200 MHz FSB) Corsair TwinX XMS 1GB PC3200 Dual Channel (2-2-3-5) [color=red]ATi [/color][color=white]Radeon 9500 Pro (@ 330\310) \ [/color][color=white]Omega Catalyst Drivers v2.5.90[/color] [color=white]Ultra X-Connect 500W PSU[/color]

Sep 24, 2004, 09:07 PM	#12
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Sep 25, 2004, 04:23 AM	#19
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Oct 1, 2004, 07:53 AM	#23
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Hmm, these drivers worked fine for me- actually they worked perfectly.. On to the Beta 8.07 now though.. Oh, also I couldn't get the CCC to work "properly" no matter what- even after putting all my services to default. __________________

Sep 23, 2004, 11:18 PM	#4
ViRGE DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 22 Rep Power: 0	I'm having the same issue down to the letter, and I'm using the Longhorn Transformation Pack, which uses a hacked uxtheme.dll.

Sep 24, 2004, 04:09 AM	#7
ImHomegr0wn DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	I got the same problem and I've never had a problem before with AA/AF . It doesn't work when I create a radlink either.

Sep 24, 2004, 07:24 AM	#8
ImHomegr0wn DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	I found out that the settings don't apply when I'm using the special CS OpenGL driver (I've always used this driver too).

Sep 24, 2004, 07:17 PM	#10
Vegtro DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	I have the same problem. No AA or AF. =( Reinstalled like 4 times already and no luck.

Sep 24, 2004, 08:23 PM	#11
ViRGE DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 22 Rep Power: 0	What card does everyone have? Perhaps it's related to just certain cards. <- ATI X800 Pro

Sep 24, 2004, 10:34 PM	#13
duceyaj DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	x800xt-pe here. no aa/af working here either.

Sep 24, 2004, 11:25 PM	#14
Vegtro DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	9500np->9700 here

Sep 24, 2004, 11:56 PM	Thread Starter #15
Lanaaja DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	9700 non-pro here

Sep 25, 2004, 12:42 AM	#16
ViRGE DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 22 Rep Power: 0	Well, there goes that idea. Still, someone grab Omega's attention, this looks to be some sort of common flaw.

Sep 25, 2004, 02:44 AM	#17
ImHomegr0wn DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Are any of you using a Special OpenGL driver?

Sep 25, 2004, 03:43 AM	#18
ViRGE DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 22 Rep Power: 0	I haven't even tried using OpenGL, almost all of my games are D3D. That said, no, I'm using the standard OpenGL driver.

Sep 28, 2004, 06:09 AM	#21
Structure DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: GA Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Registered just for this thread. :P I am having the same problem. Been using the Omega drivers for some time now, at least 4-5 sets. Up until the 4.9 version, vsync worked flawlessly with the hl ogl driver. After installing, I could not get vsync to work in either ogl or directx. I tried both ogl drivers with the same results: image tearing (no vsync). I don't use AA/AF that much, so I can't report on those. Just to be sure, I uninstalled the set and followed the Driver Cleaner guide to reinstall. The version that came with the drivers wouldn't run (I forget the error message), so I downloaded v3.3 from this site. I uninstalled, rebooted into safe mode, canceled the auto-detection, uninstalled the hardware, ran driver cleaner, rebooted, and installed the drivers as normal. I followed this procedure to reinstall the 4.9 version, 4.8, 4.7, and finally the official catalyst 4.9. My vsync had been running perfectly before this release, and even reverting back to the previous omega versions didn't bring it back. It was still broken. I used to enable it by setting it to application preference, but now I have to set it to forced on to get it to work with half-life. This is with the official drivers, mind you. Not sure what the problem is, just wanting to contribute a bug report I guess. Thanks for all the hard work, Omega. Card: ATI Radeon 9500 Pro (Not OC'ed) OS: XP Pro SP2 Mobo: Asus K8N-E Deluxe CPU: AMD64 3200+ RAM: 1GB DDR400

Sep 28, 2004, 01:02 PM	#22
ImHomegr0wn DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, I tried uninstalling/reinstalling many times and I could never get any of the OpenGL settings to apply with the Special OpenGL file. I then thought to put one of my back up special OpenGL drivers from a previous set that already had the settings on and it worked (I assumed it would). AMD XP 3200+ ASUS A7N8X 9800 Pro 128mb Stock 1GB PC3500 Windows XP Pro SP1 DX9.0c

Oct 1, 2004, 12:33 PM	Thread Starter #24
Lanaaja DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	I gave up finding a solution and went back to 2.5.58. I play online almost every night so I like to have my drivers working properly.

Oct 1, 2004, 03:23 PM	#25
Omegadrive Drivers? What Drivers??? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 1,526 Rep Power: 75	One important question for those of you having problems, Did had CCC installed sometime before installing these drievrs? If you do, then I know what the problem is. CCC changed the way AA, AF and VSYNC are applied, so if you have it installed or it was not properly removed vefore installing the drivers, NONE of the settings in the OGL or D3D options will work. This is already fixed in the next set... __________________ DRIVERHEAVEN ADMINISTRATOR <<E-MAIL>> <<PC SPECS>> GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

Oct 1, 2004, 10:20 PM	#30
Razgriz Intelligence? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On the edge of insanity Posts: 1,183 Rep Power: 55	yea, ive got a 9700 Pro, and whenever i go into the direct3d and opengl tabs in advanced tab, it always turns my screen grey.