CATALYST beta posting of 8.07 driver

interspaced · Sep 28, 2004, 12:10 AM

the CP is at default the source settings are as follows:
textures and models both on high
shader detail on high
water settings is reflect world
Shadows are on high
no AA
2x AF
V-synch is on
Also fastwrites are on although i've never had a problem with them being on

***Veridian3*** · Sep 28, 2004, 12:21 AM

thats either :

1) A source bug

or

2) Dodgy mem chip/controller on the card.

I hope its 1 but i think its 2 because i've had that on cards before and the only soln is RMA.

Son_of_Thunder · Sep 28, 2004, 12:27 AM

try setting the shader details to low/off (i don't remember if off is an option)

that may help as well. did you have this problem before these drivers?

swatX · Sep 28, 2004, 12:29 AM

someone with a 256mb r3xx core run some tests !!! plzzzz

interspaced · Sep 28, 2004, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sthunder

try setting the shader details to low/off (i don't remember if off is an option)

that may help as well. did you have this problem before these drivers?

reinstalled 4.9 and it's back to normal

mike83wvu · Sep 28, 2004, 12:32 AM

When I click on that link I am not given an option to download anything??

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Son_of_Thunder · Sep 28, 2004, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by interspaced

reinstalled 4.9 and it's back to normal

good

deekey777 · Sep 28, 2004, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by interspaced

Thanks for that as a reward you get to see my problem. I have taken 2 screenshots of the 2 types of artifacts i've spotted.

http://img4.exs.cx/img4/9256/betaglitch1.jpg
http://img84.exs.cx/img84/3770/betaglitch2.jpg

Strange, I played one hour CSS with this new driver and I had no problems like yours. Same settings in cp and css (+8xAF), 9800 Pro 128 MB.

In Doom 3 (demo1) -> no changes for me.

mario64 · Sep 28, 2004, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

they are a newer set yes.

Are they newer or older than the 4.10s?

Thanks,
Mario64

Zardon · Sep 28, 2004, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike83wvu

When I click on that link I am not given an option to download anything??

CATALYST beta posting of 8.07 driver
A beta of 8.07 has been made available at the link below:

http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4649.html (just click on the â€œdriver hotfixâ€ text to download the driver)

incidentally mike you might want to look into putting your system specifications into your signature not into your main post text, go into your profile and copy and paste that text into your "signature"

Zardon · Sep 28, 2004, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mario64

Are they newer or older than the 4.10s?

Thanks,
Mario64

these are newer than the beta testers current set. newest driver out there barring some internal sets.

mike83wvu · Sep 28, 2004, 12:45 AM

Thanks & done Zardon.

mario64 · Sep 28, 2004, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

these are newer than the beta testers current set. newest driver out there barring some internal sets.

Ok. Thanks.

Blade123 · Sep 28, 2004, 12:55 AM

What about 9600xt 256mb? Would it be worth installing the drivers for this video card?

Bicka · Sep 28, 2004, 01:02 AM

Does this driver come with the new control centre or should i be able to install this over the 4.9's?

Zardon · Sep 28, 2004, 01:04 AM

you can use CCC with the driver yes.

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Sep 28, 2004, 01:21 AM

At least 5 times it has been asked, and 4 pages, countless views, and
still has yet to be answered.

DOES THIS DRIVER BENEFIT ALL...ALL 256MB
CARDS?

FOR INSTANCE...AN 9800PRO (256) OR PERHAPS A 9800XT (256) OR IS THIS JUST FOR THE NEWEST LINE OF CARDS?

A SIMPLE "YES, IT SUPPORTS ALL 256 CARDS, OR A NO IT DOES NOT", WILL BE SUFFICIENT AND APPRECIATED.

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zardon · Sep 28, 2004, 01:24 AM

BMG have you got a problem or something? seems to me you seem intent on causing issues no matter where you post in this forum and it will stop today.

Personally I dont know if it works on all 256 cards as I dont own all of ATIs 256 meg cards and have only tried a few but yes it works on the 9800 and up from my limited testing (ive only had it a little under a week). How about you try it and let us know any gains/losses you find?

questions answered satisfactorily? good, now drop the caps, oversized type and the attitude.

Geminiwave · Sep 28, 2004, 01:29 AM

man...

I'd love to test them but I need the softmod for my card. If I could keep the omega softmod but use the drivers it'd be awesome.

I use to use a reg hack for it on the old mobo\harddrive but that is long gone now and I hardly remember it.

SKoR · Sep 28, 2004, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

A beta of 8.07 has been made available at the link below:

http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4649.html (just click on the â€œdriver hotfixâ€ text to download the driver)

ATI has decided to make the 8.07 beta driver available to the public for a variety of reasons:

The 8.07 beta driver fixes a random hang issue with Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic when loading / switching levels. We have received a significant number of bug reports for this issue and feel that it should be addressed as quickly as possible.
ATI wants to provide its RADEON X700 customers with the same level of performance and gaming experience as shown in the recent RADEON X700 reviews. Unfortunately due to the time requirements to ship RADEON X700s to retail shelves a now out-dated 8.04 driver had to be used for the software CD.
The 8.07 beta driver includes a memory allocation bug fix for all AGP RADEON products with 256 of MB of memory that significantly improves performance for applications that make intensive use of graphics memory.

According to the last paragraph it says "ALL 256 RADEON PRODUCTS". That includes your's BMG.

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Sep 28, 2004, 01:36 AM

No attitude here Zardon ol' buddy, Just trying to get an answer
to a question that had been asked numerous times, and
recieved no reply.

Also, I asked for all 256 MB cards, not "all ATI cards".
I figured you would have the info from Cat Maker...
all I wanted to know buddy.

Ok? We G2G?

Question is answered to my satisfaction. May test it later, after
an F1C race I have tonight. The current 4.9 drivers run F1C really
good, and don't wanna mess with that now.

If I do try and benchmark, (will have to use Fraps) I'll be sure and
post the results.

BACK ON TOPIC!

nauticus · Sep 28, 2004, 01:37 AM

I have a Radeon 9500 Pro (!) and I measured the FPS of Doom 3 timedemo1 with the Omega 4.9 and the new betas (which I modified in Rage3DTweak): 38.7 and 38.5, respectively.

It's very minimal, but I noticed that the betas didn't slow down as much than the 4.9's during the test, while they might of not got as high.

I'm keep'n em.

Zardon · Sep 28, 2004, 01:38 AM

Yeah unfortunately Terry is flying around the world at the minute and all I can tell you guys is what ive been sent in the email which I posted word for word and my testing with stuart. It does seem to work on most of the 256 cards we tried but neither of us have older boards handy atm for testing.

So ill be just as interested as the rest of you in getting some results from you guys on 9600s for example.

hunter-killer25 · Sep 28, 2004, 02:17 AM

i've tried both offical and omega drivers and i've yet to see a performance increase on my 9600xt.... EVER

Shinjikun · Sep 28, 2004, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nauticus

I have a Radeon 9500 Pro (!) and I measured the FPS of Doom 3 timedemo1 with the Omega 4.9 and the new betas (which I modified in Rage3DTweak): 38.7 and 38.5, respectively.

It's very minimal, but I noticed that the betas didn't slow down as much than the 4.9's during the test, while they might of not got as high.

I'm keep'n em.

Good stuff; thanks for the post fellow 9500 Pro user.

Dem2k · Sep 28, 2004, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinjikun

Good stuff; thanks for the post fellow 9500 Pro user.

Haven't posted for a while, but Im receiving a big boost in doom3 performance. Using a X800XTPE using these drivers resulted in a smoother game for me. What exactly were the causes of this memory allocation bug? What did the catalyst reject the extra 128mb or something and its just now been activated in this set?

Im confused.

Shinjikun · Sep 28, 2004, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dem2k

Haven't posted for a while, but Im receiving a big boost in doom3 performance. Using a X800XTPE using these drivers resulted in a smoother game for me. What exactly were the causes of this memory allocation bug? What did the catalyst reject the extra 128mb or something and its just now been activated in this set?

Im confused.

I'm sure all 256 MB onboard were used however there may have been some bug preventing that amount of memory to be used 100% efficiently (or something along those lines). Basically it worked but not as well as it could\should have depending on the card.

Ev!L-aLphA · Sep 28, 2004, 03:40 AM

Ok i tested ut n css stress test -

CSS VST 4.9 - 85.16

CSS VST 8.07b - 85.97

UT2k4 seemed a bit smoother on the beta drivers

ati radeon x800xt platinum
1280x1024
max aa max aff
highest quality possible
refelct all (css)

Poppi · Sep 28, 2004, 04:53 AM

Nice...
3DM03,default res., and 4x AA, 8x AF:
From 7935 to 8035

WTH...
AQM3, default settings:
From 58,000 to 62,617!!!

Is this a pure memory fix or has there been some optimisations added?

Toasty_Rimjob · Sep 28, 2004, 04:58 AM

I did some testing with D00m3 and 3DMark03-

Doom3 @ 1024x768 -High Detail- jumped from 46.9 FPS with Omega's 4.9's to 54.8FPS with this driver- that's 16.8% my friends

3DMark03 showed very little difference for me (~ 1% well within margin for error) till 1600x1200- the total score increased 3% and the game4 score increased 8%.

Sep 28, 2004, 12:27 AM	#33
Son_of_Thunder HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 1,441 Rep Power: 50 System Specs	try setting the shader details to low/off (i don't remember if off is an option) that may help as well. did you have this problem before these drivers? __________________

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swatX ba\|\\|\\|ed Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 618 Rep Power: 0	someone with a 256mb r3xx core run some tests !!! plzzzz __________________ thx stick for the sig

Sep 28, 2004, 12:45 AM	#42
mike83wvu DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 65 Rep Power: 0	Thanks & done Zardon. __________________ Asus A8N5X FX-60 15X200 Raptor x2 4GB Corsair Mushkin 650W BFG 8800 GTS Vista 64Bit Ultimate XCLIO Windtunnel

Sep 28, 2004, 01:29 AM	#49
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 62	man... I'd love to test them but I need the softmod for my card. If I could keep the omega softmod but use the drivers it'd be awesome. I use to use a reg hack for it on the old mobo\harddrive but that is long gone now and I hardly remember it. __________________

Sep 28, 2004, 03:40 AM	#58
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 60	Ok i tested ut n css stress test - CSS VST 4.9 - 85.16 CSS VST 8.07b - 85.97 UT2k4 seemed a bit smoother on the beta drivers ati radeon x800xt platinum 1280x1024 max aa max aff highest quality possible refelct all (css) __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08 Last edited by Ev!L-aLphA; Sep 28, 2004 at 04:19 AM.

Sep 28, 2004, 12:10 AM	#31
interspaced DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 287 Rep Power: 0	the CP is at default the source settings are as follows: textures and models both on high shader detail on high water settings is reflect world Shadows are on high no AA 2x AF V-synch is on Also fastwrites are on although i've never had a problem with them being on

Sep 28, 2004, 12:21 AM	#32
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 4,835 Rep Power: 174	thats either : 1) A source bug or 2) Dodgy mem chip/controller on the card. I hope its 1 but i think its 2 because i've had that on cards before and the only soln is RMA.

Sep 28, 2004, 12:32 AM	#36
mike83wvu DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 65 Rep Power: 0	When I click on that link I am not given an option to download anything?? [color=#000000]Kv8 Pro 1.1 Bios 16 3200 Hammer 1mb 10x220 1.60 core Kingston 3200 1GB{2X512} 7-3-3-2.5 1T X800 Pro Omega 4.9[/color] [color=#000000]Raptor 74gb / Sata WD 80gb Backup Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Antec 480 Blue Plextor 8X Samsung 16x[/color] [color=black]Thermaltake Highest Xaser III Super Tower[/color] [color=#000000]SLK-948-U [/color][color=black]Thermaltake 90mm BLUE 4000rpm[/color][color=#000000] 33C/46C [/color] [color=#000000]XP PRO SP2[/color]

Sep 28, 2004, 12:55 AM	#44
Blade123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 48 Rep Power: 0	What about 9600xt 256mb? Would it be worth installing the drivers for this video card?

Sep 28, 2004, 01:02 AM	#45
Bicka DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 670 Rep Power: 0	Does this driver come with the new control centre or should i be able to install this over the 4.9's?

Sep 28, 2004, 01:04 AM	Thread Starter #46
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	you can use CCC with the driver yes.

Sep 28, 2004, 01:21 AM	#47
~~BMG_Cya=-~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 718 Rep Power: 0	At least 5 times it has been asked, and 4 pages, countless views, and still has yet to be answered. DOES THIS DRIVER BENEFIT ALL...ALL 256MB CARDS? FOR INSTANCE...AN 9800PRO (256) OR PERHAPS A 9800XT (256) OR IS THIS JUST FOR THE NEWEST LINE OF CARDS? A SIMPLE "YES, IT SUPPORTS ALL 256 CARDS, OR A NO IT DOES NOT", WILL BE SUFFICIENT AND APPRECIATED. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sep 28, 2004, 01:24 AM	Thread Starter #48
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	BMG have you got a problem or something? seems to me you seem intent on causing issues no matter where you post in this forum and it will stop today. *Personally* I dont know if it works on all 256 cards as I dont own all of ATIs 256 meg cards and have only tried a few but yes it works on the 9800 and up from my limited testing (ive only had it a little under a week). How about you try it and let us know any gains/losses you find? questions answered satisfactorily? good, now drop the caps, oversized type and the attitude.

Sep 28, 2004, 01:36 AM	#51
~~BMG_Cya=-~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 718 Rep Power: 0	No attitude here Zardon ol' buddy, Just trying to get an answer to a question that had been asked numerous times, and recieved no reply. Also, I asked for all 256 MB cards, not "all ATI cards". I figured you would have the info from Cat Maker... all I wanted to know buddy. Ok? We G2G? Question is answered to my satisfaction. May test it later, after an F1C race I have tonight. The current 4.9 drivers run F1C really good, and don't wanna mess with that now. If I do try and benchmark, (will have to use Fraps) I'll be sure and post the results. BACK ON TOPIC!

Sep 28, 2004, 01:37 AM	#52
nauticus Carpcarpcarpcarpcarp Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: nauticus Posts: 232 Rep Power: 0	I have a Radeon 9500 Pro (!) and I measured the FPS of Doom 3 timedemo1 with the Omega 4.9 and the new betas (which I modified in Rage3DTweak): 38.7 and 38.5, respectively. It's very minimal, but I noticed that the betas didn't slow down as much than the 4.9's during the test, while they might of not got as high. I'm keep'n em.

Sep 28, 2004, 01:38 AM	Thread Starter #53
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	Yeah unfortunately Terry is flying around the world at the minute and all I can tell you guys is what ive been sent in the email which I posted word for word and my testing with stuart. It does seem to work on most of the 256 cards we tried but neither of us have older boards handy atm for testing. So ill be just as interested as the rest of you in getting some results from you guys on 9600s for example.

Sep 28, 2004, 02:17 AM	#54
hunter-killer25 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	i've tried both offical and omega drivers and i've yet to see a performance increase on my 9600xt.... EVER

Sep 28, 2004, 04:53 AM	#59
Poppi DH Admirer Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 251 Rep Power: 0	Nice... 3DM03,default res., and 4x AA, 8x AF: From 7935 to 8035 WTH... AQM3, default settings: From 58,000 to 62,617!!! Is this a pure memory fix or has there been some optimisations added? __________________

Sep 28, 2004, 04:58 AM	#60
Toasty_Rimjob DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Posts: 34 Rep Power: 0	I did some testing with D00m3 and 3DMark03- Doom3 @ 1024x768 -High Detail- jumped from 46.9 FPS with Omega's 4.9's to 54.8FPS with this driver- that's 16.8% my friends 3DMark03 showed very little difference for me (~ 1% well within margin for error) till 1600x1200- the total score increased 3% and the game4 score increased 8%. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ @ 2.8Ghz DFI Lanparty UT Ultra-D Mobo eVGA 6800GT 256 MB 2 x 120GB Seagate 7200.7 (Raid 0) 3DMark2001se -- 28210 Marks 3DMark2k3 -- 14471 Marks 3DMark2k5 -- 6067 Marks