venge

long story short, i want to uninstall the newest omegas after upgrading to DX9.0c due to problems with 3dmark03 crashing. my brother's comp is running almost identical hardware to mine but he's got the cat 4.9's and no problems on his system.

when i follow the driver cleaner readme, i went to uninstall the the ATI display drivers first but got the following error when i click on the remove button: error initializing. I hit the "ok" button and that's it. anyone know a workaround for uninstalling the display drivers?

thanks

Shinjikun

Welcome to the forums. Try reinstalling the driver over itself, then try another uninstall after rebooting. If it still doesn't work there might be some sort of registry corruption and you might have to manually uninstall by removing registry keys, folders on the HD, and using Driver Cleaner. Try the reinstall (over itself) first and see what happens.

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venge

thanks for the intro

shoulda mentioned i had previously trying reinstalling the driver to see if it would
clear up my problem with 3dmark. i thought i rebooted after but i'm not sure. i'll give it another try now.

edit: reinstall and reboot didn't work. unless someone can tell me how to manually remove the ati display drivers, my plan b is to reformat.

Shinjikun

If the uninstall still didn't work then you'll have to do a manual uninstall. Open the device manager and go into the display adaptors, uninstall your video card from there. Immediately reboot into safe mode and run Driver Cleaner to remove any left over drivers. Look in Program Files and remove the folders (if listed) for any driver installations.

Afterwards you can reboot and reinstall the drivers you want; all though there will still be left over registry entries. Before rebooting to reinstall the driver you can search for any ATi listings in your registry all though there may be more detailed registry entries for ATi that won't come up in a simple search. Maybe someone knows of other reg entries that should be removed as well.

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A7N8X-E Deluxe
Athlon XP 2500+ (@ 2.2 GHz 11x200 MHz FSB)
Corsair TwinX XMS 1GB PC3200 Dual Channel (2-2-3-5)
[color=red]ATi [/color][color=white]Radeon 9500 Pro (@ 330\310) \ [/color][color=white]Omega Catalyst Drivers v2.5.90[/color]
[color=white]Ultra X-Connect 500W PSU[/color]

venge

i'm just going to reformat again to make sure i get everything. no sense in making this install "dirty" off the bat. thanks for the help.

so much for trying something new

BWX

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showpost...&postcount=340

Like that? Uninstall Driver- then reboot - click out of error messeges-

Then go into ADD/REMOVE programs and uninstall radlinker through there-
Done.

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venge

no, it isn't the utilities that are the problem. it's the ATI display drivers (Omega v2.5.90) that are listed in add/remove programs. i can't uninstall those drivers due to the error message.

BWX

What utilities? Download driver cleaner and run it in safe mode, then reinstall the Omega drivers- Then uninstall them. Or try to reinstall them over



Actually-- after reading your first post, I'm not even sure if you ever uninstalled the ATI CATS before installing the Omega's, or if what you are trying to uninstall is the Regular cats or the Omega's...


you say "went to uninstall the the ATI display drivers " -well you said you have the omega's installed, so maybe there is an entry in your add remove program list that is faulty or something..


Use the driver cleaner and they will be gone- Then reinstall and uninstall just to be sure. That's what I would do, but there is a bug so you will have to follow my above instructions no matter what after you uninstall. You must have not done something right to get where you are right now, because a regular Omega install will uninstall using the add remove program list, it is radlinker that comes with it that has the problem.

You are going to have to be more specific on how you got to where you are at this point.



Tell the long version, short version isn't cutting it.

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venge

i installed the omega drivers on a FRESH install of XP. No cats were ever installed, omega from the beginning. i want to uninstall the 2.5.90 omegas and install the 2.5.79 omegas because i think the most current ones are giving me a problem in 3dmark03.

i follow the instructions provided in the driver cleaner readme that comes with the omegas. As per the readme:

Full Uninstall Instructions:

1. Uninstall the "ATI Display Drivers (Omega x.xx.xx)" from Windows Control Pane|Add/Remove Programs.

#1 is where i have the problem. i click on remove and a window pops up saying "error initializing" and gives me an "Ok" button. Hit ok and that's where i'm stuck. i can't uninstall those particular drivers using add/remove programs.

can i just uninstall them by using driver cleaner anyway and your instructions for uninstalling radlinker? or is there more i have to do (i.e reg editing) to COMPLETELY remove the current omegas?

2. Restart the PC in SAFE MODE. (Keep pressing F8 before the Windows boot screen appears)

3. Run Driver Cleaner Omega Edition and click start to remove the remaining files and registry entries.

4. Run "Uninstall Omega Drivers Setup Files" from the Start Menu.

5. Restart and just install any driver you want.

BWX

There must be something else wrong with your PC then, because if you install these drivers on a healthy system, the only problem uninstalling them should be the one I had, but that is easily fixed if you know what to do (uninstall Radlinker via add/remove programs, very simple).....


If I were you I would not reinstall windows because of this.

Ok, you said it was a fresh install of windows and that no other Cats were installed, but that the Original CATS were giving you problems..

How exactly were they giving you problems if they were never installed? Did you reinstall windows because on your previous windows installation the CATS were causing problems with 3dmark03? If so, what problems? And why did you have to reinstall windows in the first place?


It sounds to me like you tried to install the Omega drivers w/o uninstalling the drivers/ control panel that came with Windows XP-

Is this WinXP install Updated? If so then yes it did have previous drivers installed, Win XP installed them automatically when you installed the OS... Did you use Drivercleaner BEFORE installing the Omegas? Did you uninstall the original WinXP video card drivers?

If not, then you need to run Driver Cleaner and Cab cleaner to get them off your system, then reinstall the Omegas, then try to uninstall them.. If you do it right, uninstalling video card drivers is a very simple process, actually it is difficult to mess it up. You still really haven't said how you got to where you are now- Saying a "fresh install of XP" is very vague.

You need to say exactly what you did before you installed the Omegas you have on there now not just say "I installed the drivers"..

Right click on your desktop, go to properties/ settings tab/ advanced/ -then highlight the "Advanced 3D tab and hit the Print screen Button.

Go into MS paint or Photoshop and hit Ctrl + V and save the picture. PM me when you have done that so I can see what you see- I will give you an email address to send the picture.

If you know how to post a screenshot in the forum, just do that. i'm starting to wonder if they were even installed properly in the first place..

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venge

instead of parsing out and replying to your post, i'm just going to explain what i did from the beginning.

1. partitioned and formatted HD; installed winXP SP1.
2. installed DX9.0b and installed updated version of mobo all-in-one drivers.
3. installed OMEGA drivers v2.5.90.
4. windows update for all patches/rollups up to but not including SP2.
5. defrag windows partition.
6. installed 3dmark. ran 3dmark multiple times with no problems.
7. installed DX9.0c.
8. tried running 3dmark, crashes after 2nd test everytime.
9. tried reinstalling omega drivers. rebooted and ran 3dmark and still crashes.
10. tried reinstalling DX9.0c. ran 3dmark and still crashes.
11. tried uninstalling omega drivers as per the readme. get error as described previously.

^ exact step by step

this is the point where i'm at now. i want to install the last version of omega drivers to see if that clears up 3dmark crashing. no idea why upgrading to 9.0c would have caused a problem with 3dmark in the first place.

here is the screen you asked for


look, i've installed/uninstalled lots of different drivers and it isn't ROCKET SCIENCE. i'd like to know how i messed it up as well because i'm pretty sure i did nothing wrong.

BWX

Well first of all you installed Omega's over top of the drivers that were on there (the default ones)

1. partitioned and formatted HD; installed winXP SP1.
2. installed DX9.0b and installed updated version of mobo all-in-one drivers.
3. installed OMEGA drivers v2.5.90.
4. windows update for all patches/rollups up to but not including SP2.
5. defrag windows partition.
6. installed 3dmark. ran 3dmark multiple times with no problems.
7. installed DX9.0c.
8. tried running 3dmark, crashes after 2nd test everytime.

But before that you did some weird things, and things out of order- you did not prepare your machine for a clean install of drivers. Even then I can't see why it won't uninstall.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-xp-radeon-display-drivers/8053-driver-installation-guide-n00bs.html


You should have installed Windows, then updated, including dx9 final version you plan on using. Defragging also has nothing to do with this problem.
The major problem might be the fact that you installed omegas directly over default ATI catalyst, but again I'm not sure which set you had on there before- or which set you got through windows update. Not sure why you installed Omega driver before updating windows because windows update will put drivers on your system if you let it. hmmm

If you follow the noob guide you won't have any problems. I see nowhere in your list that you have even downloaded or tried to use drivercleaner or cab cleaner which can fix a lot of problems- specially if you use it before you install a custom set of drivers..

I guess you could reinstall windows again, but I have never in my life reinstalled windows because of a video card driver.

It almost sounds like you tried to use the "uninstall setup files program", then after that tried to uninstall the drivers. I think in that case it would give you that error. Not rocket science, but it is possible to sabotage yourself if you don't know what not to do or do the wrong thing by mistake. Basically here is the deal- there is nothing wrong with this beta set of Omegas accept that radlinker uninstall bug, your problem is caused by something you did wrong.


So I guess I'll ask this: have you ever downloaded or used driver cleaner?

Also- What is in your C/Programs file/ Radeon Omega drivers file? How big is that folder?

Also do you have a C/program files/ATI folder? Or C/ATI folder?



This was the second post:
"If it still doesn't work there might be some sort of registry corruption and you might have to manually uninstall by removing registry keys, folders on the HD, and using Driver Cleaner"

If you haven't even downloaded Driver cleaner yet, or tried it uninstall via the device manager, then I'm pretty much wasting my time. This is a fairly simple thing to fix..

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