CCC won't start.

CaptainAmerica · Nov 13, 2004, 12:19 AM

Hey all, i've had this issue the last couple of drivers. Most recently with the 4.11's. After installing the driver/ccc and rebooting, after XP finishes loading all it's stuff, the ATI icon appears in the system tray. However, when I try to launch the app, it doesn't start. Also, when I right click on the ATI icon in the tray, it doesn't show the 9800 Pro and secondary 9800 pro lines that are usually present. When I check my display drivers in device manager, they do indeed show the 9800 Pro and secondary display drivers so they installed ok. With the caralysts 4.10 when opening CCC an error stating that no ATI drivers are present or they are not functioninig properly. However, i can usually reboot and then the CCC will load properly though i've been unable to get it to do so since the 4.11 update. I'm not sure where the problem is. I just started having the problem most recently with the past couple of catalysts. Any suggestions? I've used the ATI uninstall tool, then DriverCleaner 3 when doing the install. .net was also installed. Should I have the original drivers that came with my card installed before installing updates? I've seen conflicting threads on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Oh yeah and specs.
P4 2.26ghz
1024 pc800 rdram
XP SP2
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256
SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS

**G.I.BRO** · Nov 13, 2004, 12:58 AM

For getting CCC to load, uninstall all verions to .NET and then reinstall .NET beta2. Whenever one upgrades their .NET, they should really uninstall their previous verions first. Try that and see what will happen.

CaptainAmerica · Nov 13, 2004, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by **G.I.BRO**

For getting CCC to load, uninstall all verions to .NET and then reinstall .NET beta2. Whenever one upgrades their .NET, they should really uninstall their previous verions first. Try that and see what will happen.

G.I. Bro, all I gotta say is....You da man! I uninstalled .NET 1.1 (which happens to be the one installed via Windows Update along with a patch). To be safe I uninstalled Catalyst 4.11 as well. Rebooted. Installed .Net 2 beta from Windows website. Rebooted. Reinstalled Catalyst 4.11 and so far it's working (knock on wood). Question I have is, why on earth would my CCC not work with the .Net version windows automatically updates? I imagine this is the .Net program ATI is expecting everyone to have pretty much. Make sure that if you're having the same problem to not install the .Net 1.1 available over Windows Update since it still gives you the option to install it after already having the .net 2 beta. I'll post again if the problem persists.

**G.I.BRO** · Nov 13, 2004, 02:43 AM

w00t!

I'm expecting that you didnt really have to uninstall the cats as well. I didnt when this resolved my issue. I just did the .NET and all was fine. I guess from here on inl, i would uninstall .NET whenever a newer version comes about. Something has to be messed up with .NET. I dont really think its a cat issue seeing that so many dont have this issue. Only a select few.

BUt anyhoo... Awesome to see you up and running. Good show! NOW PASS ON THE WORD!

MindlessOath · Nov 13, 2004, 05:22 AM

ati should have this info on their release notes. it would help alot of unsuspecting people out alot, tho i do know their isnt very many people that actually read anyways. so big letters saying IMPORTAINT READ FIRST

would be a good idea.

No_Style · Nov 13, 2004, 05:43 AM

Yes, that's a real issue. I was actually forced to used the .Net 2.0 as well. I wonder why that is. Anyways, it's a great way to get it to work. The .Net 2.0 Beta is quite good.

I think it's a combination of .Net 1.1 and CCC which causing the problems. I didn't have the problem until 4.10 and now 4.11. Maybe ATI are using stuff which are geared towards .Net 2.0 and not really 1.1? Hmm?

CaptainAmerica · Nov 13, 2004, 01:10 PM

Yeah, in all the threads in all the forums in all the world, this is the first one i've seen the .Net version mentioned as being a potential problem. Yeah, it would help to if ATI had a slightly more detailed problem section on their website suggesting certain things to try in these cases. This also started with the 4.10's and 4.11's so it would seem the ATI development team was maybe using .Net 2 betas? Who knows, i'll definately make this the suggestion. One disappointment with the 4.11's is that the 4.10's (though very buggy) gave me great frame rates with Call of Duty United Offensive. Big dissappointment for me especially since this is supposed to be the 256MB card bug fix. Why the drop then?! Sheesh!

Nov 13, 2004, 12:19 AM	#1
CaptainAmerica DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	CCC won't start. Hey all, i've had this issue the last couple of drivers. Most recently with the 4.11's. After installing the driver/ccc and rebooting, after XP finishes loading all it's stuff, the ATI icon appears in the system tray. However, when I try to launch the app, it doesn't start. Also, when I right click on the ATI icon in the tray, it doesn't show the 9800 Pro and secondary 9800 pro lines that are usually present. When I check my display drivers in device manager, they do indeed show the 9800 Pro and secondary display drivers so they installed ok. With the caralysts 4.10 when opening CCC an error stating that no ATI drivers are present or they are not functioninig properly. However, i can usually reboot and then the CCC will load properly though i've been unable to get it to do so since the 4.11 update. I'm not sure where the problem is. I just started having the problem most recently with the past couple of catalysts. Any suggestions? I've used the ATI uninstall tool, then DriverCleaner 3 when doing the install. .net was also installed. Should I have the original drivers that came with my card installed before installing updates? I've seen conflicting threads on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah and specs. P4 2.26ghz 1024 pc800 rdram XP SP2 ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256 SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS

Nov 13, 2004, 05:22 AM	#5
MindlessOath DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,121 Rep Power: 0	ati should have this info on their release notes. it would help alot of unsuspecting people out alot, tho i do know their isnt very many people that actually read anyways. so big letters saying IMPORTAINT READ FIRST would be a good idea. __________________ ATI Radeon X800XT PE <---- LOOK UPDATED!! AMD Athlon 2Ghz, nforce2, 512mb ddr3500 LINKS U SHOULD KNOW!!!! DriverCleaner - use every time u install new drivers! ATI driver feedback - to report driver problems Tacticalcenter - my Gaming website and forums ATI 3rd party Optimized Driver Compairison

Nov 13, 2004, 05:43 AM	#6
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Yes, that's a real issue. I was actually forced to used the .Net 2.0 as well. I wonder why that is. Anyways, it's a great way to get it to work. The .Net 2.0 Beta is quite good. I think it's a combination of .Net 1.1 and CCC which causing the problems. I didn't have the problem until 4.10 and now 4.11. Maybe ATI are using stuff which are geared towards .Net 2.0 and not really 1.1? Hmm? __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Nov 13, 2004, 12:58 AM	#2
G.I.BRO To Have and to Hold Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	For getting CCC to load, uninstall all verions to .NET and then reinstall .NET beta2. Whenever one upgrades their .NET, they should really uninstall their previous verions first. Try that and see what will happen.

Nov 13, 2004, 02:43 AM	#4
G.I.BRO To Have and to Hold Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	w00t! I'm expecting that you didnt really have to uninstall the cats as well. I didnt when this resolved my issue. I just did the .NET and all was fine. I guess from here on inl, i would uninstall .NET whenever a newer version comes about. Something has to be messed up with .NET. I dont really think its a cat issue seeing that so many dont have this issue. Only a select few. BUt anyhoo... Awesome to see you up and running. Good show! NOW PASS ON THE WORD!

Nov 13, 2004, 01:10 PM	Thread Starter #7
CaptainAmerica DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, in all the threads in all the forums in all the world, this is the first one i've seen the .Net version mentioned as being a potential problem. Yeah, it would help to if ATI had a slightly more detailed problem section on their website suggesting certain things to try in these cases. This also started with the 4.10's and 4.11's so it would seem the ATI development team was maybe using .Net 2 betas? Who knows, i'll definately make this the suggestion. One disappointment with the 4.11's is that the 4.10's (though very buggy) gave me great frame rates with Call of Duty United Offensive. Big dissappointment for me especially since this is supposed to be the 256MB card bug fix. Why the drop then?! Sheesh!