Counter-Strike Freezing

dumb assassin · Dec 3, 2004, 12:21 AM

wut will happen is ill play cs for about 5 mins and itll just freeze up into a soundloop.
once that happeneds i cant do anything but listen to the soundloop or hold down the power button.
although once i waited a while and got an error message saying device failure or something.

it seems to be caused by the video drivers as once i updated it happeneds more often.
went from lasting about 30 mins to 5.
i've tried the omega drivers and they can last much longer but they still freeze but not the same way.
when it does freeze it'll sorta fade to a white screen without any soundloop.

i have a
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600 (maybe 9700) WITH 128MB MODULE
i get the drivers from the computer makers website as its mobile

Pentium 4 3.00GHZ

512MB Ram

60 gig HD

i've heard about the fastwrites problem and asked them about it but they say the
options only avaliable on desktops.

so is there anything i can do about this?

dumb assassin · Dec 3, 2004, 12:35 AM

btw this is on opengl, d3d doesnt freeze.

Geminiwave · Dec 3, 2004, 01:13 AM

Hmmmmmmmmmm............You may want to run drivercleaner and fix that. I dunno though interestingly enough I think it may be an OpenGL engine problem in CS. You could try re-downloading it. That might help. I dunno though.

dumb assassin · Dec 3, 2004, 04:07 AM

ok i ran drivercleaner and cleaned out the driver and sp2 cab files as well as the drivers under the filter ati (wasnt too sure on the filter)

then i got 20 mins outa cs, longest ever on these drivers but it froze up in the end

ill try reinstalling opengl now but im not sure how to do it as the files werent on the laptops makers site. or do they come in the video driver?

Geminiwave · Dec 3, 2004, 04:51 AM

try reinstalling CS. I think its gotta be a bug in the CS files.

dumb assassin · Dec 3, 2004, 05:18 AM

already tried, no difference

Geminiwave · Dec 3, 2004, 05:37 AM

ouch. im sorry man. I dunno what to tell you. lemme think over it tonight

dumb assassin · Dec 3, 2004, 07:54 AM

do u think its an opengl problem though? i've tried other games such as halo, bf1942, sims 2 and they all run fine.

neokenzo · Dec 3, 2004, 06:27 PM

I have the same problem. CS:S doesnt last more than 5 minutes. Happens with HL2 also although HL2 I can play up to 45 minutes if I am lucky. I have tried Cat 4.11, 4.12beta and Omega's 4.10beta and still the same. I even format my PC and still no luck.
I triec opening my dxdiag file and tested the Direct3D. The box was spinning so fast that it doesnt look like a cube anymore and cant see whats written on the side. Not sure whether this is the problem. Tried almost everything now and still have no luck.

Stoofy · Dec 3, 2004, 11:09 PM

Guys, I had lock ups in HL2 and once in CS.

One thing to note is that at least on my machine, changing any of the settings whilst in game will send the PC into a "freeze and sound loop". This however is temporary until the information is written to disk. It may take 30 seconds or so.

Specs:

Athlon 2400+
HiS ICEQ 9800 Pro 128
1 GB Corsair RAM
SB Live! Value
Windows XP SP1
DX9c
Cat 4.6 drivers

So far I have.

Verified my HL2, CS:S Steam install. (search on www.steampowered.com forums.)

Defragged my drive where Steam HL2 etc is located.

Increased AGP aperture to 256 on my 9800 Pro 128

With 1 GB of RAM I run the following added to the launch path " -nojoy -console -heapsize 524288" so "D:\Valve\Steam\Steam.exe -applaunch 220 -nojoy -console -heapsize 524288" is the full entry.

I'm running wait for it 4.6 Cats. Down from 4.12Bs.

So far CS:S hasn't locked up after about 6 hours play. Yet to try HL2 which lasted about 20 minutes before lockup prior.

Hope this may help you.

dumb assassin · Dec 4, 2004, 12:01 AM

i tried the cube thing, didnt spin very fast but i saw the writing. does d3d freeze up in cs for u?

and stoofy, when u change ur settings it freezes up right after? i've got my config as read only and all my settings in my userconfig so if i change a setting in game it'll never get written to disk.

i've also verified my files but it didnt say anything at the end, same with u?

i dunno wut this is :
Increased AGP aperture to 256 on my 9800 Pro 128
or wut this cmd does or limits:
-heapsize 524288

and i also got this from windows this morning although i dont have a IBM
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/response...2d0c89&SID=705
http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site...cid=MIGR-50883

neokenzo · Dec 4, 2004, 01:48 AM

I got CS:S to work. Been playing for the past 3 hours. I lowered down my fsb from 222 to 215 and that seem to solve the problem. I havent tried HL2 yet though.

dumb assassin · Dec 4, 2004, 04:03 AM

how u lower fsb?

dumb assassin · Dec 4, 2004, 04:28 AM

well d3d just crashed. so annoying

it crashed the same way but only lasted bout a min before it quit to desktop with this error message:

Stoofy · Dec 4, 2004, 11:19 AM

Well interestingly enough, I just upgraded to the latest Omega 4.12 drivers and my PC locked up in CS:S within 15 minutes of starting.

Is it a driver issue?

dumb assassin · Dec 4, 2004, 11:51 AM

looks like it, although it may just be some option that is enabled or disabled.

or maybe the bios, ill try updating that sometime and see if that does anything.

Warpy · Dec 11, 2004, 11:20 PM

This is happening to me as well. I have follwed all the above advice and nothing seems to fix it.

dumb assassin · Dec 22, 2004, 04:34 PM

no luck with bios, although it does seem ot last longer.

is there a logging tool or something we can try in attempt to determine the exact problem or something?

Dec 3, 2004, 12:21 AM	#1
dumb assassin DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Counter-Strike Freezing wut will happen is ill play cs for about 5 mins and itll just freeze up into a soundloop. once that happeneds i cant do anything but listen to the soundloop or hold down the power button. although once i waited a while and got an error message saying device failure or something. it seems to be caused by the video drivers as once i updated it happeneds more often. went from lasting about 30 mins to 5. i've tried the omega drivers and they can last much longer but they still freeze but not the same way. when it does freeze it'll sorta fade to a white screen without any soundloop. i have a ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600 (maybe 9700) WITH 128MB MODULE i get the drivers from the computer makers website as its mobile Pentium 4 3.00GHZ 512MB Ram 60 gig HD i've heard about the fastwrites problem and asked them about it but they say the options only avaliable on desktops. so is there anything i can do about this?

Dec 3, 2004, 01:13 AM	#3
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	Hmmmmmmmmmm............You may want to run drivercleaner and fix that. I dunno though interestingly enough I think it may be an OpenGL engine problem in CS. You could try re-downloading it. That might help. I dunno though. __________________

Dec 3, 2004, 04:51 AM	#5
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	try reinstalling CS. I think its gotta be a bug in the CS files. __________________

Dec 3, 2004, 05:37 AM	#7
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	ouch. im sorry man. I dunno what to tell you. lemme think over it tonight __________________

Dec 3, 2004, 06:27 PM	#9
neokenzo DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 103 Rep Power: 0	I have the same problem. CS:S doesnt last more than 5 minutes. Happens with HL2 also although HL2 I can play up to 45 minutes if I am lucky. I have tried Cat 4.11, 4.12beta and Omega's 4.10beta and still the same. I even format my PC and still no luck. I triec opening my dxdiag file and tested the Direct3D. The box was spinning so fast that it doesnt look like a cube anymore and cant see whats written on the side. Not sure whether this is the problem. Tried almost everything now and still have no luck. __________________ [COLOR=Navy] [/COLOR]

Dec 3, 2004, 12:35 AM	Thread Starter #2
dumb assassin DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	btw this is on opengl, d3d doesnt freeze.

Dec 3, 2004, 04:07 AM	Thread Starter #4
dumb assassin DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	ok i ran drivercleaner and cleaned out the driver and sp2 cab files as well as the drivers under the filter ati (wasnt too sure on the filter) then i got 20 mins outa cs, longest ever on these drivers but it froze up in the end ill try reinstalling opengl now but im not sure how to do it as the files werent on the laptops makers site. or do they come in the video driver?

Dec 3, 2004, 05:18 AM	Thread Starter #6
dumb assassin DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	already tried, no difference

Dec 3, 2004, 07:54 AM	Thread Starter #8
dumb assassin DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	do u think its an opengl problem though? i've tried other games such as halo, bf1942, sims 2 and they all run fine.

Dec 3, 2004, 11:09 PM	#10
Stoofy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	Guys, I had lock ups in HL2 and once in CS. One thing to note is that at least on my machine, changing any of the settings whilst in game will send the PC into a "freeze and sound loop". This however is temporary until the information is written to disk. It may take 30 seconds or so. Specs: Athlon 2400+ HiS ICEQ 9800 Pro 128 1 GB Corsair RAM SB Live! Value Windows XP SP1 DX9c Cat 4.6 drivers So far I have. Verified my HL2, CS:S Steam install. (search on www.steampowered.com forums.) Defragged my drive where Steam HL2 etc is located. Increased AGP aperture to 256 on my 9800 Pro 128 With 1 GB of RAM I run the following added to the launch path " -nojoy -console -heapsize 524288" so "D:\Valve\Steam\Steam.exe -applaunch 220 -nojoy -console -heapsize 524288" is the full entry. I'm running wait for it 4.6 Cats. Down from 4.12Bs. So far CS:S hasn't locked up after about 6 hours play. Yet to try HL2 which lasted about 20 minutes before lockup prior. Hope this may help you.

Dec 4, 2004, 12:01 AM	Thread Starter #11
dumb assassin DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	i tried the cube thing, didnt spin very fast but i saw the writing. does d3d freeze up in cs for u? and stoofy, when u change ur settings it freezes up right after? i've got my config as read only and all my settings in my userconfig so if i change a setting in game it'll never get written to disk. i've also verified my files but it didnt say anything at the end, same with u? i dunno wut this is : Increased AGP aperture to 256 on my 9800 Pro 128 or wut this cmd does or limits: -heapsize 524288 and i also got this from windows this morning although i dont have a IBM http://oca.microsoft.com/en/response...2d0c89&SID=705 http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site...cid=MIGR-50883

Dec 4, 2004, 01:48 AM	#12
neokenzo DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 103 Rep Power: 0	I got CS:S to work. Been playing for the past 3 hours. I lowered down my fsb from 222 to 215 and that seem to solve the problem. I havent tried HL2 yet though. __________________ [COLOR=Navy] [/COLOR]

Dec 4, 2004, 04:03 AM	Thread Starter #13
dumb assassin DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	how u lower fsb?

Dec 4, 2004, 04:28 AM	Thread Starter #14
dumb assassin DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	well d3d just crashed. so annoying it crashed the same way but only lasted bout a min before it quit to desktop with this error message:

Dec 4, 2004, 11:19 AM	#15
Stoofy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	Well interestingly enough, I just upgraded to the latest Omega 4.12 drivers and my PC locked up in CS:S within 15 minutes of starting. Is it a driver issue?

Dec 4, 2004, 11:51 AM	Thread Starter #16
dumb assassin DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	looks like it, although it may just be some option that is enabled or disabled. or maybe the bios, ill try updating that sometime and see if that does anything. Last edited by dumb assassin; Dec 4, 2004 at 11:58 AM.

Dec 11, 2004, 11:20 PM	#17
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	This is happening to me as well. I have follwed all the above advice and nothing seems to fix it. __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Dec 22, 2004, 04:34 PM	Thread Starter #18
dumb assassin DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	no luck with bios, although it does seem ot last longer. is there a logging tool or something we can try in attempt to determine the exact problem or something?